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#1051 _Cadbury_
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[QUOTE="musalala"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="musalala"]

I hyped the game 8, I was surpried that it got lower, The cows hyped this game AAAE. And Let me clarify I am not saying the review scored low because of cows I am saying the cows tend to let their enthusiasm get the best of them and OVER HYPE games.Particularly since many of those games are made by people who don't have an AAA track record. Suker Punch based on thier privious games are an AA developer same as Gurilla same as Polyphony But that didn't stop cows over-hyping their games. I can understand over-hyping a Blizzard game or a Bungie game and Even a Konami game since they do have a pretty sold AAA track record.

No one goes in that deep with hype. They don't look at track records. At least I never thought so. Maybe there is more to the hype art then meets my eye? In a general SW sense. Whatever looks good gets hyped AAA and especially if it's exclusive. I guess lems get lucky that the reviewers meet the general AAA hype. In my reality, hype would be a game gets a perfect ten. Why would someone hype something 90%? That's pretty dumb. ...Or smart.

LOL and thats why cows tend to over-hype then have it blow it up intheir face, why would hype a game made by an AA developer AAA or AAAA? and also I'm pretty sure people look at who is making a game before hyping it, I seriously doubt MOST people who participate in hype blindly hype a game without in the very least looking at certain obvious facts like who made it previews etc, maybe thats why cows fail alot at hyping they just blindly hype.

Hype means nothing. A game is going to score that score no matter what. The only people it means something to right now are lems, and all you have to do is ask them what they're playing right now to send them away. I judged the game on what i saw in previews and hyped it AAA. Thats what hype is, your feeling about the game. Nothing more to it. And I still believe Im going to get an AAA experience from it.
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#1052 _Cadbury_
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

does this reviewer even talk about the user generated content?

He mentions it in the video review. idk about the written review.

was it positive or negative?

The last paragraph of the written review is about it. He liked it. "If only the rest of Infamous 2 were as imaginative as the creation tools."
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#1053 fabz_95
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Ouch, I thought the game would get a 9.0 or an 8.5, definitely didn't expect a 7.5. I'll still get the game but with the reviews it's getting I might not get it day one now.
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#1054 timmy00
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

does this reviewer even talk about the user generated content?

Zaibach

He mentions it in the video review. idk about the written review.

was it positive or negative?

Mostly positive. He seems to like it. Said it was easy to use.

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#1055 Kashiwaba
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LOL guess my taste and the reviewers taste doesnt match from the demo Infamous 2 seemed very good I enjoyed it but it got 7.5 while the first one which wasnt very good and felt very boring and repetitive (I finished it) but I didnt think it deserve more than 7 yet it got 9 :P.

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#1056 finalstar2007
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Am i seeing this right? a 7.5? wow.. i been having a blast with the demo, im seriouly susprirsed of this score but oh well if i cared about scores i would have probably missed on tons of good games, day 1 hero edition baby!

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#1057 -ArchAngeL-777-
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[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

Could be relative to the person. Someone may not even think twice and choose their lover lol.

TREAL_Since

Yeah saving the doctors was the right choice. It actually was kinda obvious too because Kessler gives Cole the choice to save his lover or 6 doctors that could help thousands. A typical needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one scenario. But this illustrates how easy it was to make these karma choices in Infamous. You knew exactly what was right or wrong. I would be seriously interested in exactly what moral choice Tom found to have a gray area in Infamous.

I agree. What would you do in that situation, though :P?

Funny thing is, I accidentally chose incorrectly on the first play through. I was playing as a Hero, but the First Sons were all over me when the choice came up. I ran for the nearest building to get the high ground and it just so happened to be the one with Trish on it, so I lost karma. lol That would be a terrible call to make in real life which is why I even suggested it to be a gray decision. In the strict video game sense, the right call was easy to make. I'm not sure what I would do...probably save the doctors. Im betting my girl would never forgive me or herself if I saved her over doctors that could save so many others. Lets just say i hope i never have to make that choice :)
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#1058 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I assume that saving the doctors is the good choice?

-ArchAngeL-777-

Could be relative to the person. Someone may not even think twice and choose their lover lol.

Yeah saving the doctors was the right choice. It actually was kinda obvious too because Kessler gives Cole the choice to save his lover or 6 doctors that could help thousands. A typical needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one scenario. But this illustrates how easy it was to make these karma choices in Infamous. You knew exactly what was right or wrong. I would be seriously interested in exactly what moral choice Tom found to have a gray area in Infamous.

As do I. Since infamous 1 choices were clear cut in what was good and wat was bad. There wasint not 1 single grey choice. So please reviewer tell us these grey choices you speak of since they sure as hell wasint in my game.

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#1059 finalfantasy94
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Epic Flop. I actually had a feeling it wouldn't be as good as the original, but then again most sequels never are.SpinoRaptor24

So your just going off 1 mans opinion as fact? If so then wow.

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#1060 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

[QUOTE="musalala"]

:lol::lol: 7.5 I didn't this coming. And cows its your own fault , you always set yourselves up for a fall by hyping games to high heaven only to have them fail to meet the hype. The same fate awaits Uncharted 3. Still buying it though, Infamous was a lot of fun and this looks more of the same so I'm good.

musalala

Fail? IGN gave it a 9. seems like a pretty damn good game to me.

I have no doubt its a good game Infamous 1 is one of my favs, I am refering to the hype on gamespot perpetuated by the cows, The reveiw and demo have solidified my intention to purchase it.However I find it hilarious how cows will hypea PS3 exclusive as teh bestest thing ever only to have it blow up in their faces.

yea cause ya know no other group does that.......

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#1061 dercoo
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Great, another 7.5 reviewer fail on the level of R&C TOD

Its been awhile

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#1062 super600  Moderator
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Great, another 7.5 reviewer fail on the level of R&C TOD

Its been awhile

dercoo

Actually thatwas worse. From what I seen from that video review from Infamous 2 most of the complaints are justified.

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#1063 epicstory
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Great, another 7.5 reviewer fail on the level of R&C TOD

Its been awhile

dercoo

People have different opinion's, there is no "fail".

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#1064 hippiesanta
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Big Flop.

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according to gamespot....but not to IGN......anyway.....metacritic is the overall result by proffesional critics
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#1065 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="BenGenio"]

Big Flop.

hippiesanta

according to gamespot....but not to IGN......anyway.....metacritic is the overall result by proffesional critics

Except the MC score to drop to an 82 or 83 if GS review is counted on Monday.

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#1066 epicstory
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[QUOTE="BenGenio"]

Big Flop.

hippiesanta

according to gamespot....but not to IGN......anyway.....metacritic is the overall result by proffesional critics

Nah it's a flop.

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#1067 Floppy_Jim
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lolwtf.
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#1068 PAL360
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Well, it seems InFamous 2 is as good as Kinect Sports! Good good, i have had awesome moments with that game :P

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#1069 Ratchet_Fan8
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oh wowsers! Didnt expect it to be that low! Im still buying it though,but i guess Sucker Punch need to rest Infamous.1Yr development aint good enough.But i do hope they wont make another Infamous game,its time for Sly Gawdammit!
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#1070 -ScorpionKing
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So much for the Teh Cell, Teh Blu-Ray, Teh 3D, Teh Year of Ps3 And Teh what else ??
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#1071 rogerjak
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So much for the Teh Cell, Teh Blu-Ray, Teh 3D, Teh Year of Ps3 And Teh what else ??-ScorpionKing
Yeah, thank god for the gazzilion 360 exclusives....oh wait.

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#1072 abuabed
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I expected AAE but damn! will be getting it though, the demo played great.
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#1073 Asim90
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Ouch! A 7.5! I was never expecting that! I still haven't tried the demo but I have no idea how this can be worse than the original. Very surprised.

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#1074 -Snooze-
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That's ridiculous ... I don't need to play it to know it's better then Crackdown.

SUPERFLOP

Still gonna buy it, Infamou 1 was great

Lesson learned. Never improve a game in a sequel. GS don't like it. Instead re-skin your previous title, charge more for it and remove game modes. AAA guaranteed

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#1075 -ScorpionKing
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[QUOTE="-ScorpionKing"]So much for the Teh Cell, Teh Blu-Ray, Teh 3D, Teh Year of Ps3 And Teh what else ??rogerjak

Yeah, thank god for the gazzilion 360 exclusives....oh wait.

Nope, Thanks to CD Projekt for making The Witcher 2
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#1076 BeerMage
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7.5 isn't bad.

[spoiler] It's terrible. Damn I wasn't expecting this. [/spoiler]

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#1077 ForceFreeze
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After reading the written review, I feel that I can relate to the points Tom addressed, even having not played the sequel yet. Still, the 7.5 rating is quite uncalled for in comparison with the reivew and other games receiving higher scores. Also, a reminder that Tom was the one who rated the original inFamous a nine.

  • inFamous 1 did not have particularly meaningful moral choices either
  • I can definitely see the sequel having a worse story than the orginal, first game had a decent story, but it could have been a lot better.
  • Novelty factor wore out. I got a feeling of deja vu when I played the demo, a good and a bad thing.
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#1078 Bus-A-Bus
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Honestly who cares if GS gave it 7.5?I mean,game on meta is AA so its nothing to worry about.But damn...what a flop this game is :lol:

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#1079 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

That's ridiculous ... I don't need to play it to know it's better then Crackdown.

SUPERFLOP

Still gonna buy it, Infamou 1 was great

Lesson learned. Never improve a game in a sequel. GS don't like it. Instead re-skin your previous title, charge more for it and remove game modes. AAA guaranteed

you dont know if the game has actually improved over the first :/
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#1080 Infinite_Access
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Damn didn't see that one coming.. megaflop. Sorry cows.

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#1081 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

That's ridiculous ... I don't need to play it to know it's better then Crackdown.

SUPERFLOP

Still gonna buy it, Infamou 1 was great

Lesson learned. Never improve a game in a sequel. GS don't like it. Instead re-skin your previous title, charge more for it and remove game modes. AAA guaranteed

The_RedLion

you dont know if the game has actually improved over the first :/

The first scored a 9 and on all accounts was an excellent game. Poor pacing and a poor morality system(again) wont change that.

Crackdown 2 was in most accounts far worse then the original and was scored similary.

Someconsistency in the reviews would help

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#1082 Zaibach
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That's ridiculous ... I don't need to play it to know it's better then Crackdown.

SUPERFLOP

Still gonna buy it, Infamou 1 was great

Lesson learned. Never improve a game in a sequel. GS don't like it. Instead re-skin your previous title, charge more for it and remove game modes. AAA guaranteed

-Snooze-

hmm, i think this might be GS's new review policy

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#1083 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

That's ridiculous ... I don't need to play it to know it's better then Crackdown.

SUPERFLOP

Still gonna buy it, Infamou 1 was great

Lesson learned. Never improve a game in a sequel. GS don't like it. Instead re-skin your previous title, charge more for it and remove game modes. AAA guaranteed

you dont know if the game has actually improved over the first :/

The first scored a 9 and on all accounts was an excellent game. Poor pacing and a poor morality system(again) wont change that.

Crackdown 2 was in most accounts far worse then the original and was scored similary.

Someconsistency in the reviews would help

you havent even played the game and are using your own opinion about crackdown against his opinion opinion vs opinion doesnt mean he's wrong
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#1084 Asim90
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I just watched the review and to be honest this review was pretty sub par, he barely talks about the improvements in the game. He says there is more variety... some explanation would be nice. He barely mentions mission variety or enemy AI, two of things that were most flawed in the original. Some talk on replay value would be nice? What about side missions and collectibles? Some explanation on the mission editor would have been good.

No talk on how the graphics have improved, no mention of fixed pop in or the framerate.He didn't even mention the additional powers cole received. He could have commented on the games length.He seems to focus on the negatives a lot without balancing his review with the positives. Also, there is literally no depth to this review what so ever. Thank goodness we still have Kevin.

Still, I will reserve judgement until I play it myself.

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#1085 Mozelleple112
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7.5????? Why are you doing this Gamespot. When I read the title for the review I thought *oh boy, another one of those 8.5'ers* but a 7.5?

Man Infamous 2 is an 8.0 at least,... I agree with IGN's review here.

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#1086 The_RedLion
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so now tom has joined the club of evil reviewers that hate the ps3? first justin after gt5, then kevin v after kz3 and now tom, lol
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#1087 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] you dont know if the game has actually improved over the first :/The_RedLion

The first scored a 9 and on all accounts was an excellent game. Poor pacing and a poor morality system(again) wont change that.

Crackdown 2 was in most accounts far worse then the original and was scored similary.

Someconsistency in the reviews would help

you havent even played the game and are using your own opinion about crackdown against his opinion opinion vs opinion doesnt mean he's wrong

I never said his opinion was wrong. I said it's better then Crackdown regardless of any score (Higher one anyway)

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#1088 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

The first scored a 9 and on all accounts was an excellent game. Poor pacing and a poor morality system(again) wont change that.

Crackdown 2 was in most accounts far worse then the original and was scored similary.

Someconsistency in the reviews would help

you havent even played the game and are using your own opinion about crackdown against his opinion opinion vs opinion doesnt mean he's wrong

I never said his opinion was wrong. I said it's better then Crackdown regardless of any score (Higher one anyway)

when you called them inconsistent you implied they were wrong
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#1089 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] you havent even played the game and are using your own opinion about crackdown against his opinion opinion vs opinion doesnt mean he's wrongThe_RedLion

I never said his opinion was wrong. I said it's better then Crackdown regardless of any score (Higher one anyway)

when you called them inconsistent you implied they were wrong

reviews are opinions, opinions cant be wrong, they can however be biased, short-sighted or in this case was Snooze means is inconsistent

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#1090 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I never said his opinion was wrong. I said it's better then Crackdown regardless of any score (Higher one anyway)

when you called them inconsistent you implied they were wrong

reviews are opinions, opinions cant be wrong, they can however be biased, short-sighted or in this case was Snooze means is inconsistent

he uses his own opinion to argue about inconsistency without playing the game now that's wrong
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#1091 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] you havent even played the game and are using your own opinion about crackdown against his opinion opinion vs opinion doesnt mean he's wrongThe_RedLion

I never said his opinion was wrong. I said it's better then Crackdown regardless of any score (Higher one anyway)

when you called them inconsistent you implied they were wrong

They are inconsistent ... How does that mean wrong? Whatever you assume inconsistent implies is really your own issue.

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#1092 rybe1025
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Great, another 7.5 reviewer fail on the level of R&C TOD

Its been awhile

dercoo
Since you say the reviewer failed I am just wondering have you played the full game and not just the demo in order to determine that he failed?
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#1093 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I never said his opinion was wrong. I said it's better then Crackdown regardless of any score (Higher one anyway)

when you called them inconsistent you implied they were wrong

They are inconsistent ... How does that mean wrong? Whatever you assume inconsistent implies is really your own issue.

they are inconsistent because you dont agree on a game you havent played? what kind of argument is that? and being inconsistent means theyre wrong somewhere
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#1094 BigBoss255
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http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28691943/infamous-2-is-one-ugly-game.

I told you this game sucks. It plays as bad as it looks. So much for GOTY. Us lems rule SW. We play it safe, no exclusives = no flops.

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#1095 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] when you called them inconsistent you implied they were wrongThe_RedLion

They are inconsistent ... How does that mean wrong? Whatever you assume inconsistent implies is really your own issue.

they are inconsistent because you dont agree on a game you havent played? what kind of argument is that? and being inconsistent means theyre wrong somewhere

Their inconsistency is evident in several reviews. This review being just the latest. A review being inconsistent doesnt mean it's wrong, people are inconsistent and as such so will there feelings on games be.

For proffesional reasons though they should strive to keep reviews as consistent as possible in order to create some some uniform standards.

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#1096 _Cadbury_
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[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]

http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28691943/infamous-2-is-one-ugly-game.

I told you this game sucks. It plays as bad as it looks. So much for GOTY. Us lems rule SW. We play it safe, no exclusives = no flops.

You pretty much just ownaged yourself here 'cause Tom actually has a section in the review about how much of an improvement the graphics are and how good it looks ;)
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#1097 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

They are inconsistent ... How does that mean wrong? Whatever you assume inconsistent implies is really your own issue.

they are inconsistent because you dont agree on a game you havent played? what kind of argument is that? and being inconsistent means theyre wrong somewhere

Their inconsistency is evident in several reviews. This review being just the latest. A review being inconsistent doesnt mean it's wrong, people are inconsistent and as such so will there feelings on games be.

For proffesional reasons though they should strive to keep reviews as consistent as possible in order to create some some uniform standards.

explain how theyre inconsistent without using your personal opinion about the games
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#1098 BigBoss255
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[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"]

http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28691943/infamous-2-is-one-ugly-game.

I told you this game sucks. It plays as bad as it looks. So much for GOTY. Us lems rule SW. We play it safe, no exclusives = no flops.

You pretty much just ownaged yourself here 'cause Tom actually has a section in the review about how much of an improvement the graphics are and how good it looks ;)

I meant ugly in terms of gameplay, not graphics.
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[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="BigBoss255"]

http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28691943/infamous-2-is-one-ugly-game.

I told you this game sucks. It plays as bad as it looks. So much for GOTY. Us lems rule SW. We play it safe, no exclusives = no flops.

You pretty much just ownaged yourself here 'cause Tom actually has a section in the review about how much of an improvement the graphics are and how good it looks ;)

I meant ugly in terms of gameplay, not graphics.

"Anyone hyping this as open world graphics king prepare for dissapointment. Also the gameplay is average" o.o
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#1100 BigBoss255
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[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] You pretty much just ownaged yourself here 'cause Tom actually has a section in the review about how much of an improvement the graphics are and how good it looks ;)_Cadbury_
I meant ugly in terms of gameplay, not graphics.

"Anyone hyping this as open world graphics king prepare for dissapointment. Also the gameplay is average" o.o

Ok you found me, did you really think my first post in this thread was serious?. I don't care what he said, it's still an average looking game at best.