Infinity Ward gets owned by pc gamers.

Unhappy with the fact that the game has no dedicated servers, votekick, voteban, or really any system to deal with cheaters, Hackers figured out a way to get aimbot, speedbot, infinite ammo, and other things in the game in under a week.

I played with an aimbotter yesterday whose name was votekickme. I'm not sure whats more embarassing thinking that matchmaking could work on the pc with no votekick mechanism or having aimbotters in the game in under a week.

Ah, I was hoping PC gamers didn't buy the game, resulting in low sales which would have forced ACTIVISION and IW to make their next game on PC much, much better.

I guess the PC audience couldn't boycott it?:(

Then again, I will wait till next year before I really scrutinize the sales of this game. I don't care about sales, but I do care if anyone can stand up to the Evil Empire, Activision.

yup, around 1 million sales on PC alone according to vgchartz. that sure is a boycott.

Ah, I was hoping PC gamers didn't buy the game, resulting in low sales which would have forced ACTIVISION and IW to make their next game on PC much, much better.

I guess the PC audience couldn't boycott it?:(

Then again, I will wait till next year before I really scrutinize the sales of this game. I don't care about sales, but I do care if anyone can stand up to the Evil Empire, Activision.

SolidTy

Poor sales may give the opposite effect, and there simply won't be a PC version next time.

Ah, I was hoping PC gamers didn't buy the game, resulting in low sales which would have forced ACTIVISION and IW to make their next game on PC much, much better.

I guess the PC audience couldn't boycott it?:(

Then again, I will wait till next year before I really scrutinize the sales of this game. I don't care about sales, but I do care if anyone can stand up to the Evil Empire, Activision.

SolidTy

I'm still holding up the boycott, I use the money to buy Dragon Age Origins instead. Worth every single penny so far.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Ah, I was hoping PC gamers didn't buy the game, resulting in low sales which would have forced ACTIVISION and IW to make their next game on PC much, much better.

I guess the PC audience couldn't boycott it?:(

Then again, I will wait till next year before I really scrutinize the sales of this game. I don't care about sales, but I do care if anyone can stand up to the Evil Empire, Activision.

Snagal123

Poor sales may give the opposite effect, and there simply won't be a PC version next time.

What's the difference? Infinity Wards sold out a long time ago and have already gave up on PC gamers, the very same people who helped jumpstart the first Call of Duty.

they also enabled developer console hacked in dedicated servers and pirates can play for free on IW.net with paying customers.johnny27

Thats one of the thingsI really hate about pc gaming, theres so many damn hackers/cheaters always ruining the experiance online.

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

Poor sales may give the opposite effect, and there simply won't be a PC version next time.

hiphops_savior

What's the difference? Infinity Wards sold out a long time ago and have already gave up on PC gamers, the very same people who helped jumpstart the first Call of Duty.

The difference is i still want to play their games, i don't care about anyone else! I was never going to play the multiplayer anyway, i haven't bought it yet, but i'm going too soon.

Id prefer a bad PC port, than no port at all, that applies to any game!

Thats one of the thingsI really hate about pc gaming, theres so many damn hackers/cheaters always ruining the experiance online.

SrgtSaggy101

lol so they still purchased the game, and now the punkbuster or whatever anti cheat will start blocking those programs.

*goes back to playing mw2 and enjoying it*

Thats one of the thingsI really hate about pc gaming, theres so many damn hackers/cheaters always ruining the experiance online.

SrgtSaggy101

You're a PC/360 gamer? I doubt it.

There's probably just as many cheaters and pirates on 360 yet PC still is the only one with the stereotype.

Thats one of the thingsI really hate about pc gaming, theres so many damn hackers/cheaters always ruining the experiance online.

yup, around 1 million sales on PC alone according to vgchartz. that sure is a boycott.

Cyberfairy

Which certainly is sad I know :(

[QUOTE="SrgtSaggy101"]

Thats one of the thingsI really hate about pc gaming, theres so many damn hackers/cheaters always ruining the experiance online.

ThePRAssassin

You're a PC/360 gamer? I doubt it.

There's probably just as many cheaters and pirates on 360 yet PC still is the only one with the stereotype.

The difference is i still want to play their games, i don't care about anyone else! I was never going to play the multiplayer anyway, i haven't bought it yet, but i'm going too soon.

Id prefer a bad PC port, than no port at all, that applies to any game!

Snagal123

im not sure about that mate theres been some terrible ports over the years - sc double agent, saints row2, bully, the force unleashed, resident evil 4 etc etc. but as far as sp goes mw2 is certainly not a bad port its just terribly overpriced

Ironic how they wished to show their anti-support by actually supporting them.

Ah, I was hoping PC gamers didn't buy the game, resulting in low sales which would have forced ACTIVISION and IW to make their next game on PC much, much better.

I guess the PC audience couldn't boycott it?:(

Then again, I will wait till next year before I really scrutinize the sales of this game. I don't care about sales, but I do care if anyone can stand up to the Evil Empire, Activision.

SolidTy

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

The difference is i still want to play their games, i don't care about anyone else! I was never going to play the multiplayer anyway, i haven't bought it yet, but i'm going too soon.

Id prefer a bad PC port, than no port at all, that applies to any game!

Macutchi

im not sure about that mate theres been some terrible ports over the years - sc double agent, saints row2, bully, the force unleashed, resident evil 4 etc etc. but as far as sp goes mw2 is certainly not a bad port its just terribly overpriced

Well i know MW2 isin't a bad port, but the way some talk about it ud think it was.

Ive also played Double Agent and Bully, and bad as they may have been i had ALOT of fun playing them, which i wouldn't have had if they had never been ported at all. I'm also going to buy The Force Unleashed soon aswell, bad port or not.

I think the only port ive played that i felt was just unplayable was Resident Evil 4, but even thats been modded to hell and back to make it alot better than it was.

End of the day i want to play games on my PC, not on a console, so i will take ALL the ports i can get, good or bad, as long as the game is good thats all i care about, i can work around the issues :D

End of the day i want to play games on my PC, not on a console, so i will take ALL the ports i can get, good or bad, as long as the game is good thats all i care about, i can work around the issues :D

Snagal123

i feel exactly the same except i get exceptionally annoyed at lazy devs who expect us pc gamers to spend our hard earned on poorly optimised ports and then blame piracy for poor sales when they inevitably dont sell

[QUOTE="johnny27"][QUOTE="SrgtSaggy101"]

Thats one of the thingsI really hate about pc gaming, theres so many damn hackers/cheaters always ruining the experiance online.

SrgtSaggy101

Someone evidently doesn't understand how server side banning and client votekicks operate....
And someone evidently doesn't understand how backend banning works on closed networks.

That someone has been quoted....I'll let you figure out who it is!

Incidentally, and this is important, so pay attention, when an admin finds a cheater, actually, I have used these tools before, you open the console (the `~ key in the top left of your keyboard), enter a brief command into the console, and the cheater goes away forever. It takes all of four seconds, about a half a second for the thought to register that the person is cheating (or to read all the rampant complaints from the users on your server), and the remaining 3 and a half seconds (if you're slow) to open the console and ban the cheater for all time from your server.

Contrast this, if you'd be so kind as to try to learn something from this post, to the way backend banning works on a system like Xbox Live or VAC (Valve anti-cheat, Steam's cheating countermeasure). VAC, which MW2 uses, utilizes delayed bans. There is no way, NONE, to send a direct report to Steam or to the people operating the system. There is also no /record feature in games without consoles, so you have no convenient way of recording cheater footages via killcam or something. The cheat has to be detected on the backend by their detection software (most of them evidently are invisible to the software), at which point the delay of 2-4 weeks will elapse and the person will be basically eradicated from Steam. If you're talking about Xbox Live....I believe there's a reporting feature, but you still have to wait for the backend people to kill the cheater's Xbox Live account and ban their console.

FACTS: MW2 uses back-end VAC delayed bans taking up to a month to delay the cheats the software catches (most of them are written to avoid this software).

MW2 does not have a developer console for /record and it does not have kickvotes for trouble players or admins for instant IP bans.

Back-end banning takes MUCH LONGER than admin bans, which is the problem to begin with.

[QUOTE="Macutchi"]

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

The difference is i still want to play their games, i don't care about anyone else! I was never going to play the multiplayer anyway, i haven't bought it yet, but i'm going too soon.

Id prefer a bad PC port, than no port at all, that applies to any game!

Snagal123

im not sure about that mate theres been some terrible ports over the years - sc double agent, saints row2, bully, the force unleashed, resident evil 4 etc etc. but as far as sp goes mw2 is certainly not a bad port its just terribly overpriced

Well i know MW2 isin't a bad port, but the way some talk about it ud think it was.

Ive also played Double Agent and Bully, and bad as they may have been i had ALOT of fun playing them, which i wouldn't have had if they had never been ported at all. I'm also going to buy The Force Unleashed soon aswell, bad port or not.

I think the only port ive played that i felt was just unplayable was Resident Evil 4, but even thats been modded to hell and back to make it alot better than it was.

End of the day i want to play games on my PC, not on a console, so i will take ALL the ports i can get, good or bad, as long as the game is good thats all i care about, i can work around the issues :D

[QUOTE="SrgtSaggy101"][QUOTE="johnny27"] yeah thats why there is usually server admins that kick/ban hacker/cheatersBrownesque

Someone evidently doesn't understand how server side banning and client votekicks operate....
And someone evidently doesn't understand how backend banning works on closed networks.

That someone has been quoted....I'll let you figure out who it is!

Incidentally, and this is important, so pay attention, when an admin finds a cheater, actually, I have used these tools before, you open the console (the `~ key in the top left of your keyboard), enter a brief command into the console, and the cheater goes away forever. It takes all of four seconds, about a half a second for the thought to register that the person is cheating (or to read all the rampant complaints from the users on your server), and the remaining 3 and a half seconds (if you're slow) to open the console and ban the cheater for all time from your server.

Contrast this, if you'd be so kind as to try to learn something from this post, to the way backend banning works on a system like Xbox Live or VAC (Valve anti-cheat, Steam's cheating countermeasure). VAC, which MW2 uses, utilizes delayed bans. There is no way, NONE, to send a direct report to Steam or to the people operating the system. There is also no /record feature in games without consoles, so you have no convenient way of recording cheater footages via killcam or something. The cheat has to be detected on the backend by their detection software (most of them evidently are invisible to the software), at which point the delay of 2-4 weeks will elapse and the person will be basically eradicated from Steam. If you're talking about Xbox Live....I believe there's a reporting feature, but you still have to wait for the backend people to kill the cheater's Xbox Live account and ban their console.

FACTS: MW2 uses back-end VAC delayed bans taking up to a month to delay the cheats the software catches (most of them are written to avoid this software).

MW2 does not have a developer console for /record and it does not have kickvotes for trouble players or admins for instant IP bans.

Back-end banning takes MUCH LONGER than admin bans, which is the problem to begin with.

css, bf2 soon as one hackers banned another joins, games like diablo/warcraft/ you cant ban them and other rpgs/rts where you cant ban them either. or mmo hackers, Ive got nothing against pc gameing its my primary platform but hackers piss me off.

It's not a bad port, but it is a port, and a DIRECT port. Do you understand how offensive that is to people who have been hosting their own dedicated servers for their clans that play hundreds of hours all the way back to Call of Duty 1 and United Offensive?Brownesque

I would imagine it's easier to create and use hacks on PC, thus making it more of a problem. But IWnet is hardly the ideal way of dealing with this problem by the looks of things. If anything it makes it easier for hackers, pirates and griefers to operate.InsaneBasura

[QUOTE="Brownesque"] It's not a bad port, but it is a port, and a DIRECT port. Do you understand how offensive that is to people who have been hosting their own dedicated servers for their clans that play hundreds of hours all the way back to Call of Duty 1 and United Offensive?lowe0

Ah, I was hoping PC gamers didn't buy the game, resulting in low sales which would have forced ACTIVISION and IW to make their next game on PC much, much better.

SolidTy

Do the delusional actually believe this? all that would have done was make the next CoD console esclusive.

Ah, I was hoping PC gamers didn't buy the game, resulting in low sales which would have forced ACTIVISION and IW to make their next game on PC much, much better.

I guess the PC audience couldn't boycott it?:(

Then again, I will wait till next year before I really scrutinize the sales of this game. I don't care about sales, but I do care if anyone can stand up to the Evil Empire, Activision.

SolidTy

I'm Boycotting that poor excuse of a game untill these demands are met

1. Dedicated servers

2. 50 player multiplayer

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] It's not a bad port, but it is a port, and a DIRECT port. Do you understand how offensive that is to people who have been hosting their own dedicated servers for their clans that play hundreds of hours all the way back to Call of Duty 1 and United Offensive?Brownesque

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="lowe0"]I'm curious. Call of Duty (+United Offensive), Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: World at War... all these games you've built your communities around. When did Activision/Infinity Ward/Treyarch deactivate them? How long after the release of Modern Warfare 2 did they quit working? Because if they didn't, then I don't see what you're all complaining about. CoD4 runs just as well today as it did on November 9th.lowe0

Thats one of the thingsI really hate about pc gaming, theres so many damn hackers/cheaters always ruining the experiance online.

SrgtSaggy101

When you have dedicated community servers the exact opposite is true.

Thats what they get for charging 60 bucks for a game that has less online features than tf2 which was 2.50 a week ago ha IW is a joke. It didn't even take a week for them to look like idiots.

Unhappy with the fact that the game has no dedicated servers, votekick, voteban, or really any system to deal with cheaters, Hackers figured out a way to get aimbot, speedbot, infinite ammo, and other things in the game in under a week.

I played with an aimbotter yesterday whose name was votekickme. I'm not sure whats more embarassing thinking that matchmaking could work on the pc with no votekick mechanism or having aimbotters in the game in under a week.

Thats what they get for charging 60 bucks for a game that has less online features than tf2 which was 2.50 a week ago ha IW is a joke. It didn't even take a week for them to look like idiots.

crazedweasle

Ya, im sure they care about some nerds thinking there stupid while there selling millions and millions of copies of there game.

yup, around 1 million sales on PC alone according to vgchartz. that sure is a boycott.

Cyberfairy

Don't trust vgchartz, cause that number is way off. Here in the UK the game bombed selling only 53k units. Total amount of sales for MW2, the PC version is the lowest at only 3% :lol:

Here are the sales data for the UK.

X360 - Over 1 million copies sold (57%)

PS3 - 712k copies sold (40%)

PC - 53k copies sold (3%)

The PC version was a complete disaster and Activision and IW only got them self's to blaim

Link

Probably not but no one likes to look like an idiot. Its just embarassing. This is why IW is not on the level of vavle blizzard bungie bioware, and other top devs .Sales be damned, IW looking like idiots is priceless.

[QUOTE="Macutchi"]

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

The difference is i still want to play their games, i don't care about anyone else! I was never going to play the multiplayer anyway, i haven't bought it yet, but i'm going too soon.

Id prefer a bad PC port, than no port at all, that applies to any game!

im not sure about that mate theres been some terrible ports over the years - sc double agent, saints row2, bully, the force unleashed, resident evil 4 etc etc. but as far as sp goes mw2 is certainly not a bad port its just terribly overpriced

Well i know MW2 isin't a bad port, but the way some talk about it ud think it was.

Ive also played Double Agent and Bully, and bad as they may have been i had ALOT of fun playing them, which i wouldn't have had if they had never been ported at all. I'm also going to buy The Force Unleashed soon aswell, bad port or not.

I think the only port ive played that i felt was just unplayable was Resident Evil 4, but even thats been modded to hell and back to make it alot better than it was.

End of the day i want to play games on my PC, not on a console, so i will take ALL the ports i can get, good or bad, as long as the game is good thats all i care about, i can work around the issues :D

I wish i had joined the boycott. Mediocre game is mediocre.

im ramblingmjfan2000

correct

but I ramble the truthmjfan2000

incorrect

MW2 is awsome across all platforms,hermits need to grow up,its just a game,dont want it,dont buy it,infinty ward can have my 60 bucks,they earned it,boycotting a game?really?get a girlfreind and play some spec ops,mw2,best game of 09,period,and I bought it for the ps3,and havent touched another game since I bought it,games are for fun,as joker would say,WHY SO SERIOUS?grow up,cows,lems and herms,lifes to short.sorry,im rambling,but I ramble the truth mjfan2000

youre an inspiration to us all, ill go back to just complaining about things that matter like a .2 difference in a score.

[QUOTE="mjfan2000"]MW2 is awsome across all platforms,hermits need to grow up,its just a game,dont want it,dont buy it,infinty ward can have my 60 bucks,they earned it,boycotting a game?really?get a girlfreind and play some spec ops,mw2,best game of 09,period,and I bought it for the ps3,and havent touched another game since I bought it,games are for fun,as joker would say,WHY SO SERIOUS?grow up,cows,lems and herms,lifes to short.sorry,im rambling,but I ramble the truth washd123

youre an inspiration to us all, ill go back to just complaining about things that matter like a .2 difference in a score.

You've already bought the game, the company wins.Junior_AIN

This..

yup, around 1 million sales on PC alone according to vgchartz. that sure is a boycott.

Cyberfairy