IPAD 2 Is Now and After November the Best Portable By Far.

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[QUOTE="MrJack3690"]

My crappy laptop >>>> Ipad 2 :P

gamer-adam1

Not in portability. No laptop is... not even a good one.

I think don't you have used a laptop before,

no, /thread. SAGE_OF_FIRE

for once, dude, I am totally with you on this. the Ipad sucks

So TC your $500 portable beats my $125 portable (in your opinion). Well guess I am going to just have to throw out my DS and run right out and get a iKotex.

coasterguy65

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

So TC your $500 portable beats my $125 portable (in your opinion). Well guess I am going to just have to throw out my DS and run right out and get a iKotex.

Slimmin360

Gamers care about games.

No one on System Wars cares about you talking to your grandmother over Facetime. DS and PSP gamers still have the best portable games. And honestly, for less than $700, a laptop would blow your iPad out of the water.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

Question:

What is the friggin difference between the iPAD2 and.... everything else. Its bigger, it has a bigger screen, and it has stronger hardware, but I can play all the same games on my iPod touch right?

Slimmin360

Except that it's not completely true. When it comes to the new samsung and motorola tablets vs the ipad 2, it is slightly thinner, and does have more apps (although android still has a ton), but battery life is the same, the ipad lacks any sort of customization, and the android 3.0 OS is built for tablets as well.

Let me quickly stop the spread of false information with this fact check:

- The iPad 2 had no standard USB port (propietary).

- The iPad 2 has no standard HDMI port (propietary accessory needed).

- The Nvidia Tegra 2 still wipes the floor with the A5.

- JavaScript performance is absolutely horrible on iOS.

- The iPad 2 is not the thinnest tablet.

- Android 3.0 was built specifically for tablets, while the same iOS is used across different form factors.

Take a look at Android 3.0. This what a tablet OS should be:

ipad has nothing that can compare to SOCOM or GOW or MGS on PSP.

touch screen controls? LOL

if you want causal side scrolling games for $3 just go with ipad. If you want REAL games? Go with an actual PSP

sillaris

LOL heres a true example of someone that has never played any IPAD games, well i have played all those games you listed, and i've played my IPAD games, and such games like Infinity Blade which was made by Epic Games, or Real Racing 2, or NOVA 1 & 2, which are exact HALO clones, the Dungeon Hunter games, all with phenomenal graphics and gameplay.

Not to mention the variety of genres is much more vast on the App store than anywhere else, consoles and portables today are like 70% shooters, so please don't make a comment unless you've actually played some top of the line IPAD games.

By the way you and anyone else can make fun of the touch controls all you want, but i don't have to buy batteries to put into a controller or plug a controller in for 2 hours to charge it, so i can be able to play. I play my IPAD 2 all day and plug it in at night, and play all over again the next day, simple as that.

Let me quickly stop the spread of false information with this fact check:

- The iPad 2 had no standard USB port (propietary).

- The iPad 2 has no standard HDMI port (propietary accessory needed).

- The Nvidia Tegra 2 still wipes the floor with the A5.

- JavaScript performance is absolutely horrible on iOS.

- The iPad 2 is not the thinnest tablet.

- Android 3.0 was built specifically for tablets, while the same iOS is used across different form factors.

Take a look at Android 3.0. This what a tablet OS should be:

Rikusaki

LOL you still don't get it, all other tablets are IPAD wanna be's, before IPAD there were no tablets, at least none that anyone has ever heard of, but since IPAD was released all of a sudden here come the copy cats.

Problem is there apps might amount to as many as a few hundred by now, apps available for IPHONE, IPOD and IPAD, over 65,000.

So you tell me which IOS and hardware platforms are more popular, take a wild guess...LOL, c'mon you can do it, there sold at a store with a big shiny apple in front of it, and it's always packed with customers.

Right the Apple store, keep following the media headlines and you'll figure it out, don't mean to be rude or so sarcastic, but i truly despise copy cats and if your going to post screens of copy cat hardware and software, then i'm going to tell it like it is, and the truth is if it weren't for IPAD, tablets would be virtually non-existant.

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

And who are you to tell people what's good for them? If they want it, let them have it... geez. Why does this effect you in such a negative way? It's almost like you're the grumpy grandparent.

Why do people go to nice restaurants when they can get food anywhere else for a lot less money? Are you going to lecture people on that too?

JLF1

People go to nice restaurants to eat better meals (laptops). Having an IPad is like going to McDonalds and order a much larger meal.

LOL you still don't get it, all other tablets are IPAD wanna be's, before IPAD there were no tablets, at least none that anyone has ever heard of, but since IPAD was released all of a sudden here come the copy cats.

Problem is there apps might amount to as many as a few hundred by now, apps available for IPHONE, IPOD and IPAD, over 65,000.

So you tell me which IOS and hardware platforms are more popular, take a wild guess...LOL, c'mon you can do it, there sold at a store with a big shiny apple in front of it, and it's always packed with customers.

Right the Apple store, keep following the media headlines and you'll figure it out, don't mean to be rude or so sarcastic, but i truly despise copy cats and if your going to post screens of copy cat hardware and software, then i'm going to tell it like it is, and the truth is if it weren't for IPAD, tablets would be virtually non-existant.

Slimmin360

You are very, very wrong, sir.

Before the Apple Lisa, there was the Xerox Star Information System.

Before the iPod, there was the MPMan.

Before the iPad, there were (and still are) Tablet PCs.

And who cares who's copying who. In the end, it's all about who makes the better product. Good, healthy competition is a good thing. If everything were made by Apple, there would be no competition. The evolution of technology would be at the control of one man.

Calling the competition "a bunch of copycats" is foolish.

iPad2 is hardly a convenient portable device.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Let me quickly stop the spread of false information with this fact check:

- The iPad 2 had no standard USB port (propietary).

- The iPad 2 has no standard HDMI port (propietary accessory needed).

- The Nvidia Tegra 2 still wipes the floor with the A5.

- JavaScript performance is absolutely horrible on iOS.

- The iPad 2 is not the thinnest tablet.

- Android 3.0 was built specifically for tablets, while the same iOS is used across different form factors.

Take a look at Android 3.0. This what a tablet OS should be:

Slimmin360

LOL you still don't get it, all other tablets are IPAD wanna be's, before IPAD there were no tablets, at least none that anyone has ever heard of, but since IPAD was released all of a sudden here come the copy cats.

Problem is there apps might amount to as many as a few hundred by now, apps available for IPHONE, IPOD and IPAD, over 65,000.

So you tell me which IOS and hardware platforms are more popular, take a wild guess...LOL, c'mon you can do it, there sold at a store with a big shiny apple in front of it, and it's always packed with customers.

Right the Apple store, keep following the media headlines and you'll figure it out, don't mean to be rude or so sarcastic, but i truly despise copy cats and if your going to post screens of copy cat hardware and software, then i'm going to tell it like it is, and the truth is if it weren't for IPAD, tablets would be virtually non-existant.

1. There were tablets before the iPad, just because you haven't heard of them, doesn't mean they didn't exist.

2. There are over 100,000 android apps submitted to google so far, that's hardly a few hundred.

3. It's clear that you a.) have never used an android tablet or anything other than an ipad. b.) haven't even googled the tablets you are bashing to discover even their most basic features c.) are trolling and have no real factual backing. You might as well be a banner advertisement.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

So TC your $500 portable beats my $125 portable (in your opinion). Well guess I am going to just have to throw out my DS and run right out and get a iKotex.

Superbored

Gamers care about games.

No one on System Wars cares about you talking to your grandmother over Facetime. DS and PSP gamers still have the best portable games. And honestly, for less than $700, a laptop would blow your iPad out of the water.

I have not and will not ever think of an Ipad, Iphone or any other such device as a gaming console. Period.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

And who are you to tell people what's good for them? If they want it, let them have it... geez. Why does this effect you in such a negative way? It's almost like you're the grumpy grandparent.

Why do people go to nice restaurants when they can get food anywhere else for a lot less money? Are you going to lecture people on that too?

Slimmin360

People go to nice restaurants to eat better meals (laptops). Having an IPad is like going to McDonalds and order a much larger meal.

That post is so backwards that it belongs in someone's sig.

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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Let me quickly stop the spread of false information with this fact check:

- The iPad 2 had no standard USB port (propietary).

- The iPad 2 has no standard HDMI port (propietary accessory needed).

- The Nvidia Tegra 2 still wipes the floor with the A5.

- JavaScript performance is absolutely horrible on iOS.

- The iPad 2 is not the thinnest tablet.

- Android 3.0 was built specifically for tablets, while the same iOS is used across different form factors.

Take a look at Android 3.0. This what a tablet OS should be:

tempest91

LOL you still don't get it, all other tablets are IPAD wanna be's, before IPAD there were no tablets, at least none that anyone has ever heard of, but since IPAD was released all of a sudden here come the copy cats.

Problem is there apps might amount to as many as a few hundred by now, apps available for IPHONE, IPOD and IPAD, over 65,000.

So you tell me which IOS and hardware platforms are more popular, take a wild guess...LOL, c'mon you can do it, there sold at a store with a big shiny apple in front of it, and it's always packed with customers.

Right the Apple store, keep following the media headlines and you'll figure it out, don't mean to be rude or so sarcastic, but i truly despise copy cats and if your going to post screens of copy cat hardware and software, then i'm going to tell it like it is, and the truth is if it weren't for IPAD, tablets would be virtually non-existant.

1. There were tablets before the iPad, just because you haven't heard of them, doesn't mean they didn't exist.

2. There are over 100,000 android apps submitted to google so far, that's hardly a few hundred.

3. It's clear that you a.) have never used an android tablet or anything other than an ipad. b.) haven't even googled the tablets you are bashing to discover even their most basic features c.) are trolling and have no real factual backing. You might as well be a banner advertisement.

You know what, your absolutely right, i have not Googled or researched Android tablets, but i will, and i'll do one better and peruse Youtube to see them in action and if they are comparable to IPAD in functionality and ease of use, with user friendly software, then i won't bash them.

Believe me i'm the first one to preach about someone lashing out and bashing something they've never tried before, so i will give Android tablets a look and i'll even make it a point to try one in my local Best Buy store....Fair enough ?

Even though i know i'll always be a MAC supporter 4 life, i'm not opposed to giving other products a fair comparison.

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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]

LOL you still don't get it, all other tablets are IPAD wanna be's, before IPAD there were no tablets, at least none that anyone has ever heard of, but since IPAD was released all of a sudden here come the copy cats.

Problem is there apps might amount to as many as a few hundred by now, apps available for IPHONE, IPOD and IPAD, over 65,000.

So you tell me which IOS and hardware platforms are more popular, take a wild guess...LOL, c'mon you can do it, there sold at a store with a big shiny apple in front of it, and it's always packed with customers.

Right the Apple store, keep following the media headlines and you'll figure it out, don't mean to be rude or so sarcastic, but i truly despise copy cats and if your going to post screens of copy cat hardware and software, then i'm going to tell it like it is, and the truth is if it weren't for IPAD, tablets would be virtually non-existant.

Slimmin360

1. There were tablets before the iPad, just because you haven't heard of them, doesn't mean they didn't exist.

2. There are over 100,000 android apps submitted to google so far, that's hardly a few hundred.

3. It's clear that you a.) have never used an android tablet or anything other than an ipad. b.) haven't even googled the tablets you are bashing to discover even their most basic features c.) are trolling and have no real factual backing. You might as well be a banner advertisement.

You know what, your absolutely right, i have not Googled or researched Android tablets, but i will, and i'll do one better and peruse Youtube to see them in action and if they are comparable to IPAD in functionality and ease of use, with user friendly software, then i won't bash them.

Believe me i'm the first one to preach about someone lashing out and bashing something they've never tried before, so i will give Android tablets a look and i'll even make it a point to try one in my local Best Buy store....Fair enough ?

Even though i know i'll always be a MAC supporter 4 life, i'm not opposed to giving other products a fair comparison.

+1 to you.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="JLF1"]

People go to nice restaurants to eat better meals (laptops). Having an IPad is like going to McDonalds and order a much larger meal.

tempest91

That post is so backwards that it belongs in someone's sig.

Done

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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

Mac Haters, such as yourself, are just as bad as the fanboys.

Apple is a bigger company than Microsoft right now... they must be doing something right :| People like Apple products, and people like you need to get over that.

leadernator

Apple products are just the "In thing" right now. When I bought my 20gb Ipod back in 2003 nobody had Ipod's back then. Ipod's exploded when the Ipod could paly videos. Now everyone has one. Apple products are bought because everyone else has one and they think it's cool. Apple is worse than Nintnedo when it comes to milking their products.

People's continued support for Apple means that the company is doing something right. If it's only about popularity, then the trend would have died a lot sooner. Their products are easy to use... it's that simple.

A product cannot be milked if its users are still growing rapidly.

There were already millions of ipod users before color and video came out on it :|

Not really, back then you didn't see that many people walking around with Ipod's. Apple products are milked face it.

[QUOTE="sillaris"]

ipad has nothing that can compare to SOCOM or GOW or MGS on PSP.

touch screen controls? LOL

if you want causal side scrolling games for $3 just go with ipad. If you want REAL games? Go with an actual PSP

Slimmin360

LOL heres a true example of someone that has never played any IPAD games, well i have played all those games you listed, and i've played my IPAD games, and such games like Infinity Blade which was made by Epic Games, or Real Racing 2, or NOVA 1 & 2, which are exact HALO clones, the Dungeon Hunter games, all with phenomenal graphics and gameplay.

Not to mention the variety of genres is much more vast on the App store than anywhere else, consoles and portables today are like 70% shooters, so please don't make a comment unless you've actually played some top of the line IPAD games.

By the way you and anyone else can make fun of the touch controls all you want, but i don't have to buy batteries to put into a controller or plug a controller in for 2 hours to charge it, so i can be able to play. I play my IPAD 2 all day and plug it in at night, and play all over again the next day, simple as that.

We got a display model at my Radioshack and I think it's pretty fun. If they made a 5-6" mini Ipad for 300-400 I'd buy it. I used to think that the Ipad wasn't worth it, but with the new specs of the Ipad 2 and seeing how fast and responsive it is I was really surprised. If I had a better paying job I'd definitely buy an Ipad 2 lol

i wonder why the games cost 2 dollars?

I've had my IPAD 2 just over a week and bought over 30 games for it thus far, such as Infinity Blade, Dungeon Hunter 1 & 2, Hero of Sparta 1 & 2, Real Racing 2, NOVA 1 & 2 and many more phenomenal titles, there are some with graphics that are average, then are those with such graphics that it seems as if your holding a portable 360 or PS3 in your hands.

I love the touch screen and gyroscopic controls, and there completely changeable and adjustable in almost every title, and no matter which game i was playing it has yet to freeze or crash on me, it is phenomenal, and it's already made me regret wasting my money all these years on consoles and other portables....i love my IPAD 2.

Slimmin360

i was pretty impressed by this videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjgP5eNM2sYofthe ipad 2 outputing a full 1080p game (real racing 2) to a TV. there would also be no reason why a bluetooth game controller couldn't be use to control it either.

You lost this man. In one sentence you say it isn't 'much easier,' in the second sentence you say they are the same

leadernator

I guess you also think that 5 inches Dell Streak is the same thing as 13 inches Sahara just because they belong to tablet category. Great logic pal. :D

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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

Not in portability. No laptop is... not even a good one.

Slimmin360

I think don't you have used a laptop before,

Sweet it can play the same games my phone can....

Gamers care about games.

No one on System Wars cares about you talking to your grandmother over Facetime. DS and PSP gamers still have the best portable games. And honestly, for less than $700, a laptop would blow your iPad out of the water.

Superbored

Besides, the DS has way better full length games than apple could ever offer.Calvin079

[QUOTE="Calvin079"]Besides, the DS has way better full length games than apple could ever offer.DJ_Lae

Age of Empires says otherwise :D

I've had my IPAD 2 just over a week and bought over 30 games for it thus far, such as Infinity Blade, Dungeon Hunter 1 & 2, Hero of Sparta 1 & 2, Real Racing 2, NOVA 1 & 2 and many more phenomenal titles, there are some with graphics that are average, then are those with such graphics that it seems as if your holding a portable 360 or PS3 in your hands.

I love the touch screen and gyroscopic controls, and there completely changeable and adjustable in almost every title, and no matter which game i was playing it has yet to freeze or crash on me, it is phenomenal, and it's already made me regret wasting my money all these years on consoles and other portables....i love my IPAD 2.

Slimmin360

I'd rather have a tablet PC for gaming.

EDIT: uhh, I should mention that I'm assuming that it's convertable.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Oh dear, a Mac Fanboy, nothing to see here folks, just someone wasting his money on aesthetic over usefulness as usual.leadernator

Mac Haters, such as yourself, are just as bad as the fanboys.

Apple is a bigger company than Microsoft right now... they must be doing something right :| People like Apple products, and people like you need to get over that.

So I can be milked with expensive pointless apps? so I can use a portable device that doesnt allow most peripherals? that doesnt allow attachables? that has very little REAL software support, only the apps.... with the limited average touch based games?

I mean cmon. the only good thing about it is its flashy. its an premature tech which doesnt beat out existing methods in anyway other than novelty cool factor. If I have an iphone, why on earth would I get this junk?

Heres your iPad: [

Its ok though, I guess i should buy into that 4% apple market share than believe a techinical product should be all about its ****

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

You lost this man. In one sentence you say it isn't 'much easier,' in the second sentence you say they are the same

AdrianWerner

I guess you also think that 5 inches Dell Streak is the same thing as 13 inches Sahara just because they belong to tablet category. Great logic pal. :D

Why u mad? Now your just grasping for straws.

The whole point was that tablets are more portable than laptops... that was all that was being argued. If you truly believed that, then you wouldn't have argued at all.

You saying they are in the same category when it comes to PORTABILITY... think about it man, what on earth is there to interpret? There's no other way around it, and you're simply trying to weasel your way out of an argument that you clearly lost.

Clearly, you have a blind hate... and I'm just pointing that out. You love your laptop? Great... enjoy it. Let people enjoy what they got :|

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Oh dear, a Mac Fanboy, nothing to see here folks, just someone wasting his money on aesthetic over usefulness as usual.Birdy09

Mac Haters, such as yourself, are just as bad as the fanboys.

Apple is a bigger company than Microsoft right now... they must be doing something right :| People like Apple products, and people like you need to get over that.

So I can be milked with expensive pointless apps? so I can use a portable device that doesnt allow most peripherals? that doesnt allow attachables? that has very little REAL software support, only the apps.... with the limited average touch based games?

I mean cmon. the only good thing about it is its flashy. its an premature tech which doesnt beat out existing methods in anyway other than novelty cool factor. If I have an iphone, why on earth would I get this junk?

Heres your iPad:

Its ok though, I guess i should buy into that 4% apple market share than believe a techinical product should be all about its ****

You really have no reason to be so passionate about hating an electronic device. Really now people, what did an iPad do to you :|

A product like this wouldn't be so successful for a 'cool novelty factor' alone. You're simply a close-minded person. If you don't like it, fine. Doesn't mean you have to go out and preach.

lol as per usual so much Apple hate on these boards. navstar29

It's a gaming forum with most of its users that know one or two things about computers. What did you expect.

[QUOTE="navstar29"]lol as per usual so much Apple hate on these boards. edidili

It's a gaming forum with most of its users that know one or two things about computers. What did you expect.

:D

[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="navstar29"]lol as per usual so much Apple hate on these boards. navstar29

It's a gaming forum with most of its users that know one or two things about computers. What did you expect.

And Apple's design philosophy about user experience and lack of tech specs, although likely annoying for most people on this board, who love to be able to customize everything, is something that is clearly embraced by a large majority of people who find technology a barrier to their every day life. (Again likely not anyone here, but for those who don't want to bother with the innards of their PC or worry about optimizing their system, it's a fairly good option for them).

At the end of the day Apple made the iPad to be a portable device that wouldn't replace your computer or your phone, a niche which many thought didn't exist at the time, and I'm still not convinced it's required either, even after their resounding success. But clearly this area is growing and Apple was smart to capitalize.

Is the iPad meant to replace a DS as a portable gaming device ... No! But to say it doesn't have games is a mistake, it has plenty of great games and more developers are starting to make full fledged games for it. But if someone wanted something to do beyond gaming alone, where something like the DS shines, its an option for them. Its been useful in certain areas where I was surprised nothing like this already existed, like in medicine; in hospitals, doctors offices and pharmacies. I can even see it being useful for certain aspects of my job. But I'm not planning to get one any time soon.

I think tablets overall are stupid. They are just oversized smart phones. :|

Gta3-fan334

Using Android 3.0 on a smartphone would be a user experience nightmare.

By the way, the iPad 2 and the iPhone 4's hardware are no different than the rest of the pack. They use the same ARM Cortex CPU and Power VR GPU that many Android phones have. Nothing magical here.

Eh, Im sorry but I can not agree with you.

Meh...Even the NGP which will cost LESS than the iPad 2 will contain graphics hardware that will smack it all around town WITH more traditional, higher quality games.

By the way, the iPad 2 and the iPhone 4's hardware are no different than the rest of the pack. They use the same ARM Cortex CPU and Power VR GPU that many Android phones have. Nothing magical here.

Rikusaki