Is $60 expensive for a new game these days?

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#1 hadoken
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I think $40 is good, id buy a lot of games if they were only $40,

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#2 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Quit complaining you yanks have it easy. Us NZr's and Aussies have real rip-off prices

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#3 campzor
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Games have always cost around that much, ofcourse a smart buyer could shop around and pay like $40 instead of 60 at launch anyways...
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#4 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Hell yeah. I'm cool with spending $60 for something that's worth it but very few games these days are worth that much.

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Quit complaining you yanks have it easy. Us NZr's and Aussies have real rip-off prices

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That's why you should import, we can get some things cheaper than them :P
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Quit complaining you yanks have it easy. Us NZr's and Aussies have real rip-off prices

soulitane

That's why you should import, we can get some things cheaper than them :P

I try Mightyape sometimes. I'm getting Dark Souls for like $40 from them

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#7 hadoken
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you dumb ass shiiits, im talking about games like final fantasy xiii 2, UFC undisputed 3, im not going to pay $60 because they arent a halo or a gears or an uncharted for u ps3 kids, and they suffer more because of that, if they charged $40 more people would buy games like those
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#8 sneslover
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People who pay 70€ or 60$ for a game is either rich or really stupid.

Games should be at the most 30$ new, specially DD.

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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

Quit complaining you yanks have it easy. Us NZr's and Aussies have real rip-off prices

OB-47

That's why you should import, we can get some things cheaper than them :P

I try Mightyape sometimes. I'm getting Dark Souls for like $40 from them

Mightyape is alright, they can have some good deals on things. I prefer to buy stuff from the UK though, takes a while to get here but you can save a lot of money.
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Quit complaining you yanks have it easy. Us NZr's and Aussies have real rip-off prices

OB-47



And us Indians. Seriously, the prices here are ridiculous.

@TC - yes, it's pretty expensive (atleast for me).

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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] That's why you should import, we can get some things cheaper than them :Psoulitane

I try Mightyape sometimes. I'm getting Dark Souls for like $40 from them

Mightyape is alright, they can have some good deals on things. I prefer to buy stuff from the UK though, takes a while to get here but you can save a lot of money.

Yeah I'm considering doing that for a few games. I don't mind waiting as long as I have more money for Halo 4/Xbox Live funds

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Considering the cost of making games these days, and the fact prices in North America have declined in the past two decades... they are way too f*cking cheap. It's no wonder publishers are trying to make more money through DLC and online passes, they are taking huge risks with some games and almost just giving them away.
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#13 JigglyWiggly_
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lol anything over 20$ is expensive
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Considering the cost of making games these days, and the fact prices in North America have declined in the past two decades... they are way too f*cking cheap. It's no wonder publishers are trying to make more money through DLC and online passes, they are taking huge risks with some games and almost just giving them away.foxhound_fox

Keep telling yourself that.

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I just think developers need a better business model. Certain games shouldn't be selling at $60.
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Keep telling yourself that.sneslover
Gaming getting too expensive for you? I hear used books are a very cheap hobby.
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#17 ShadowMoses900
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To be honset, yes. Most games simply don't offer the content or quality to warrent $60, if publishers and devs expect me to pay that much money for a game I expect it to be on the same level of quality as Uncharted or Skyrim.

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you dumb ass shiiits, im talking about games like final fantasy xiii 2, UFC undisputed 3, im not going to pay $60 because they arent a halo or a gears or an uncharted for u ps3 kids, and they suffer more because of that, if they charged $40 more people would buy games like thosehadoken

I doubt they'll care all that much if they lost your business.

Gaming is an expensive hobby. It always has been.

N64 games used to be ridiculously expensive in the UK.

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I just think developers need a better business model. Certain games shouldn't be selling at $60. Nonstop-Madness

They would get crap profit margins then. The best a publisher can get out of a whole sale from a physical copy is around $28. This is in the best terms. $23 is more realistic. Now let's say that the game sells for $50 instead of $60. The publisher will only be getting $13 - $15 out of that game. Drop it to $40, and they get like $6 - $8.

The only way to bypass that crappy margins is to go digital. Where it doesn't cost much to get a game sale. This is the reason why Digital Download games get drastic price cuts so fast, well on PC. They can drop the prices and still get a great revenue margin.

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#20 hadoken
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[QUOTE="hadoken"]you dumb ass shiiits, im talking about games like final fantasy xiii 2, UFC undisputed 3, im not going to pay $60 because they arent a halo or a gears or an uncharted for u ps3 kids, and they suffer more because of that, if they charged $40 more people would buy games like thoselundy86_4

I doubt they'll care all that much if they lost your business.

Gaming is an expensive hobby. It always has been.

N64 games used to be ridiculously expensive in the UK.

ive been gaming longer than you kid
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#21 hadoken
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[QUOTE="sneslover"]Keep telling yourself that.foxhound_fox
Gaming getting too expensive for you? I hear used books are a very cheap hobby.

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#22 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

I try Mightyape sometimes. I'm getting Dark Souls for like $40 from them

OB-47

Mightyape is alright, they can have some good deals on things. I prefer to buy stuff from the UK though, takes a while to get here but you can save a lot of money.

Yeah I'm considering doing that for a few games. I don't mind waiting as long as I have more money for Halo 4/Xbox Live funds

I'm doing it for pretty much every game these days, apart from when mightyape has a better deal :P
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I just think developers need a better business model. Certain games shouldn't be selling at $60. Nonstop-Madness
certain games are releasing at $40
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#24 sneslover
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[QUOTE="sneslover"]Keep telling yourself that.foxhound_fox
Gaming getting too expensive for you? I hear used books are a very cheap hobby.

I buy games for reasonable prices because I know where and when to buy. Paying 70€ at launch in a major retailer is idiotic, you're only giving the store money, the devs get the same money if you buy for 30€ at another store later.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="hadoken"]you dumb ass shiiits, im talking about games like final fantasy xiii 2, UFC undisputed 3, im not going to pay $60 because they arent a halo or a gears or an uncharted for u ps3 kids, and they suffer more because of that, if they charged $40 more people would buy games like thosehadoken

I doubt they'll care all that much if they lost your business.

Gaming is an expensive hobby. It always has been.

N64 games used to be ridiculously expensive in the UK.

ive been gaming longer than you kid

Well done? :?

Remind me, and i'll give you a medal, you old fart.

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#26 ShadowDeathX
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]I just think developers need a better business model. Certain games shouldn't be selling at $60. lawlessx
certain games are releasing at $40

And they barely make any money, if it is a console release.
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="hadoken"]you dumb ass shiiits, im talking about games like final fantasy xiii 2, UFC undisputed 3, im not going to pay $60 because they arent a halo or a gears or an uncharted for u ps3 kids, and they suffer more because of that, if they charged $40 more people would buy games like thosehadoken

I doubt they'll care all that much if they lost your business.

Gaming is an expensive hobby. It always has been.

N64 games used to be ridiculously expensive in the UK.

ive been gaming longer than you kid

Dude whu are you so hostile?

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#28 hadoken
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[QUOTE="hadoken"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I doubt they'll care all that much if they lost your business.

Gaming is an expensive hobby. It always has been.

N64 games used to be ridiculously expensive in the UK.

lundy86_4

ive been gaming longer than you kid

Well done? :?

Remind me, and i'll give you a medal, you old fart.

i was playing mortal kombat on SNES when i was 5 years old u smug son of a biitch
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="hadoken"] ive been gaming longer than you kidhadoken

Well done? :?

Remind me, and i'll give you a medal, you old fart.

i was playing mortal kombat on SNES when i was 5 years old u smug son of a biitch

...um...good for you?
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#30 Shielder7
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I think $40 is good, id buy a lot of games if they were only $40,

hadoken
LOL Back in the old SNES days 40$ ment it was used I still remember the 80-99$ price tags and that was back in the 90s.
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i was playing mortal kombat on SNES when i was 5 years old u smug son of a biitchhadoken

Cool. Resorting to name-calling. Very mature.

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#32 hadoken
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[QUOTE="hadoken"]i was playing mortal kombat on SNES when i was 5 years old u smug son of a biitchlundy86_4

Cool. Resorting to name-calling. Very mature.

its allowed its in the TOU
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yes. every game should be free
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#34 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="hadoken"] ive been gaming longer than you kidhadoken

Well done? :?

Remind me, and i'll give you a medal, you old fart.

i was playing mortal kombat on SNES when i was 5 years old u smug son of a biitch

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="hadoken"]i was playing mortal kombat on SNES when i was 5 years old u smug son of a biitchhadoken

Cool. Resorting to name-calling. Very mature.

its allowed its in the TOU

I'm aware. I didn't dispute that. It shows a severe lac k of maturity on your end, though.

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you dumb ass shiiits, im talking about games like final fantasy xiii 2, UFC undisputed 3, im not going to pay $60 because they arent a halo or a gears or an uncharted for u ps3 kids, and they suffer more because of that, if they charged $40 more people would buy games like thosehadoken
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Gaming is an expensive hobby. It always has been.lundy86_4
Relatively to other hobbies it is the pretty much the second cheapest. Golf for instance will set you back at least $40-50 for one game of 18 holes if you don't own your own clubs (which start at about $100 and can easily break $1000, not to mention shoes and other clothing) and that will be about 4.5 hours of entertainment... which you will have to walk and carry or drag your clubs (on a pull cart). A devoted golfer can spend thousands a year on green fees alone if they go every weekend over the summer. Movies cost $10-15 for 2 hours or less at the theater, without the cost of food. $20-30 for the same movie on a disc. Only now with services like Netflix have they become cheaper (which still doesn't offer every movie available). Cable will start at $40-50 a month. Internet starts at $20. For a 6 hour long game, that can be replayed an infinite amount of times, $60 isn't that bad at all. And a 100+ hour game? It's like pennies a minute. People really have no idea how cheap gaming really is. It is a sense of entitlement, that "I have to play this game!" attitude that makes people think they should be able to afford every game on launch day, regardless of their income. Currently, I have spent nothing this year so far on games. Either my GF bought them (just CoDMW3) or I borrowed them from a friend (everything else I've played on PS3). And my total budget for games this year is looking to be in about the $250 range. Which is going to go mostly to Dark Souls, Journey/Flower and whatever Collector's Edition Ubisoft can put together for ACIII. It really makes me wonder how many people who complain about the cost of games are just kids still in high school. People who haven't experienced what a budget and bills are like.
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Only (HIGH QUALITY) games are worth $60.
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]I just think developers need a better business model. Certain games shouldn't be selling at $60. ShadowDeathX

They would get crap profit margins then. The best a publisher can get out of a whole sale from a physical copy is around $28. This is in the best terms. $23 is more realistic. Now let's say that the game sells for $50 instead of $60. The publisher will only be getting $13 - $15 out of that game. Drop it to $40, and they get like $6 - $8.

The only way to bypass that crappy margins is to go digital. Where it doesn't cost much to get a game sale. This is the reason why Digital Download games get drastic price cuts so fast, well on PC. They can drop the prices and still get a great revenue margin.

I clearly understand why people don't sell their games for less than $60 but developers have to think about different ways of releasing their games. Make F2P games, or $40 digital only games etc. Putting a game in a case and selling for $60 isn't going to simply work anymore.
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Remember the 90s? 1dollar gas, $40 for a ps1 game with 50 hours of gameplay or more vs $60 for 6hour campaign and $4+ gas... as of today, what a life we live in now huh?

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#41 SW__Troll
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I don't think $60 is too expensive

However, I think the pricing system for console games is incredibly archaic in today's market.

There's no middle ground at all, nor is there much in terms of free, or "extra cheap" games.

On the consoles you have two options for buying games. $60 retail releases, or $10-$15 arcade titles.

Between PC and smartphones you have $60 retail releases, as well as $50/$40/$30/$20 retail releases. Then you have the $10-$15 arcade titles, and sub-$5 titles, subscriptions, and free-to-play titles.

It's no wonder PC/Smartphone gaming is growing at a faster rate than console gaming nowadays. There are so many more markets being captured in comparison.

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Remember the 90s? 1dollar gas, $40 for a ps1 game with 50 hours of gameplay or more vs $60 for 6hour campaign and $4+ gas... as of today, what a life we live in now huh?

Bikouchu35

What 50 hour games were you playing? Oh wait, RPG's. Today you have games like Skyrim, hundreds of hours.

Don't give me that back in my day bullsh*t, it's all a lie, other games were short you just died a lot and sucked.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]Gaming is an expensive hobby. It always has been.foxhound_fox
Relatively to other hobbies it is the pretty much the second cheapest. Golf for instance will set you back at least $40-50 for one game of 18 holes if you don't own your own clubs (which start at about $100 and can easily break $1000, not to mention shoes and other clothing) and that will be about 4.5 hours of entertainment... which you will have to walk and carry or drag your clubs (on a pull cart). A devoted golfer can spend thousands a year on green fees alone if they go every weekend over the summer. Movies cost $10-15 for 2 hours or less at the theater, without the cost of food. $20-30 for the same movie on a disc. Only now with services like Netflix have they become cheaper (which still doesn't offer every movie available). Cable will start at $40-50 a month. Internet starts at $20. For a 6 hour long game, that can be replayed an infinite amount of times, $60 isn't that bad at all. And a 100+ hour game? It's like pennies a minute. People really have no idea how cheap gaming really is. It is a sense of entitlement, that "I have to play this game!" attitude that makes people think they should be able to afford every game on launch day, regardless of their income. Currently, I have spent nothing this year so far on games. Either my GF bought them (just CoDMW3) or I borrowed them from a friend (everything else I've played on PS3). And my total budget for games this year is looking to be in about the $250 range. Which is going to go mostly to Dark Souls, Journey/Flower and whatever Collector's Edition Ubisoft can put together for ACIII. It really makes me wonder how many people who complain about the cost of games are just kids still in high school. People who haven't experienced what a budget and bills are like.

Relatively speaking, i'm sure it is cheap in comparison to some hobbies. However, there is a reason sports such as soccer and basketball are so popular in areas. Due to the extremely low entry and maintenance cost.

Gaming can be an expensive hobby... How does that sound :P

I've experienced budgets and bills, and spend drastically more on gaming than I do on golfing (as per your example), and i'm quite a regular golfer.

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#44 Thefatness16
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Yep.

But I don't mind. I have no problem waiting a few months.

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Quit complaining you yanks have it easy. Us NZr's and Aussies have real rip-off prices

OB-47
Yep. $100 per game, sometimes months or years later.
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Remember the 90s? 1dollar gas, $40 for a ps1 game with 50 hours of gameplay or more vs $60 for 6hour campaign and $4+ gas... as of today, what a life we live in now huh?

SaltyMeatballs

What 50 hour games were you playing? Oh wait, RPG's. Today you have games like Skyrim, hundreds of hours.

Don't give me that back in my day bullsh*t, it's all a lie, other games were short you just died a lot and sucked.

I agree with that part. Games back in the day use to last longer cause they'd make you do the craziest ****.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in6RZzdGki8

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#47 tomarlyn
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LOL I wish everyone could pay those low low US prices. I have to pay 700 SEK ($100) for a new game, ME3 collectors edition is 1000 SEK (nearly $150). Gaming is big here too. Whats going on with that? Are americans extremely poor or do publishers think I have a solid gold toilet? This is why nobody can talk about the "damage" caused by the used game market and walk away without a very bloody nose.
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#48 foxhound_fox
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]Relatively speaking, i'm sure it is cheap in comparison to some hobbies. However, there is a reason sports such as soccer and basketball are so popular in areas. Due to the extremely low entry and maintenance cost. Gaming can be an expensive hobby... How does that sound :P I've experienced budgets and bills, and spend drastically more on gaming than I do on golfing (as per your example), and i'm quite a regular golfer.

This is true. Sounds great to me. I was mostly talking about a unit-to-unit comparison. What one game offers compared to one movie, one round of golf, etc. True. Any hobby is as expensive as one makes it. Gaming is just really cheap compared to most unless one wants everything.
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#49 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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To me it depends on the game. And most of the time, I can't justify spending $68 after-tax on a game. Unless I know ahead of time that I will be spending a lot of time playing it after the initial playthrough, then I feel the cost will be justified.
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#50 SW__Troll
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]Relatively speaking, i'm sure it is cheap in comparison to some hobbies. However, there is a reason sports such as soccer and basketball are so popular in areas. Due to the extremely low entry and maintenance cost. Gaming can be an expensive hobby... How does that sound :P I've experienced budgets and bills, and spend drastically more on gaming than I do on golfing (as per your example), and i'm quite a regular golfer.foxhound_fox
This is true. Sounds great to me. I was mostly talking about a unit-to-unit comparison. What one game offers compared to one movie, one round of golf, etc. True. Any hobby is as expensive as one makes it. Gaming is just really cheap compared to most unless one wants everything.

The thing is that gaming is not a substitute good for a round of golf.

Why are you trying to apply the same levels of value to each?