is 60fps really that big a deal?

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#51 Raziel831991
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Like some people already said, for some games to be enjoyable 60 fps is a must, specially if its a fast paced game. For slow paced games its not really necessary but it can certainly make the game better though.

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#52 Jankarcop
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Where is the 60 fps at ultra poll option?

Why are there only inferior consol kiddy options? 

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#53 Rage010101
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Wheres the PC option where I can play at 60 fps or higher (120 or more) and still max out a game, so there is no "cost to graphics".  I think you purposely left that option out from the poll to keep the Master Race from utterly shitting and destroying your thread.

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#54 Rage010101
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Also, why dafuk are you asking 2 different questions in the title and and in the poll.  Fix your title so that it relates to your poll question!

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#55 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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Yes, but i also like my eye candy.

 

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#56 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Yes...yes it is

 

 

Joedgabe

I can't tell ... i'm assuming left is 30 and right is 60? but they look the same to me.

Focus on one at a time and it should be obvious how much smoother it looks. Because of the way the brain processes visual information if you try to look at both at once its much harder to tell apart.
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#57 cainetao11
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I have never paid attention to this stuff. Graphics fps, tflops, none of it. Games look great to me. The games ive seen on x1/ps4 look greater. I'm good.
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#58 Rage010101
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Where is the 60 fps at ultra poll option?

Why are there only inferior consol kiddy options? 

Jankarcop

Ya, I was thinking the exact same thing.  That's when you know someone is trying to control and prevent the obvious answer when it comes to PC gaming, where we can play at 60fps or more and max settings.  There is no need to sacrafice graphical settings while doing 60fps or more at 1080p or more when you're PC gaming.  These polls are usually made by some insecure consolite.

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#59 timmy00
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Yes it's pretty big, especially with certain genres.

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#61 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Yes it's pretty big, especially with certain genres.

timmy00

Good to see someone supporting White Day in their sig :D I played it all about a month ago and loved it

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#62 hrt_rulz01
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Of course I'd love to have 1080p @ 60FPS... but having said that, I'd rather have 1080p/30FPS with more graphical detail then 60FPS and less detail.

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#63 timmy00
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

Yes it's pretty big, especially with certain genres.

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Good to see someone supporting White Day in their sig :D I played it all about a month ago and loved it

Yeah your playthrough of the game made me try it out lol. It's a pretty sweet game.

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#64 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

Yes it's pretty big, especially with certain genres.

timmy00

Good to see someone supporting White Day in their sig :D I played it all about a month ago and loved it

Yeah your playthrough of the game made me try it out lol. It's a pretty sweet game.

hah really? That's awesome. It is pretty sweet alright :D

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#65 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Yes...yes it is

 

 

Joedgabe

I can't tell ... i'm assuming left is 30 and right is 60? but they look the same to me.

pick up your hand and cover one at a time...dont stare at them both at once

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#66 BPoole96
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I think it's funny that your poll has to make compromises between graphical fidelity and frame rate. PC offers both, so there is no picking and choosing which they like more like console gamers have to do
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#67 nethernova
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[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Yes...yes it is

 

 

seanmcloughlin

I can't tell ... i'm assuming left is 30 and right is 60? but they look the same to me.

You can't tell a difference yet you got it right?

You are surprised that somebody gets a 50/50 chance right? Dude... Anyway, either those Dark Souls pictures are the worst possible example or my eyes are really broken. There's absolutely no difference. Saying one of those is unplayable and the other one is far superior is lolworthy at best.
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#69 DefconRave
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60 fps is not a must, but its a much smoother experience than 30 fps. An example is metro last light, feels so much better to play @ 60fps than 30. For RTS/Strategy, its not important, but for fps its a pretty big deal.
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#70 Blackbond
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33 Frames Per Second which of course is NOT very playable

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#71 kipsta77
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Wheres the "Over 60" option?

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#72 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

I can't tell ... i'm assuming left is 30 and right is 60? but they look the same to me.

nethernova

You can't tell a difference yet you got it right?

You are surprised that somebody gets a 50/50 chance right? Dude... Anyway, either those Dark Souls pictures are the worst possible example or my eyes are really broken. There's absolutely no difference. Saying one of those is unplayable and the other one is far superior is lolworthy at best.

Only elitists say that

and like wis3boi said above, cover one at a time because seeing both together on screen at the same time messes it up

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#73 Optical_Order
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60 fps is a big deal. 

Way better for most games. 

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#74 TheFadeForever
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60fps is acceptable while 30fps is barely :cry:

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#75 YearoftheSnake5
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I feel that 60fps is necessary for certain games, but the ONE thing I can't deal with is screen tearing. If the game is running at 60fps at the cost of vsync, I'd rather have it run at 30fps with vsync enabled.

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#76 sailor232
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60 is really really nice, especially for fast paced action games. I can accept lower for an mmo.

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#77 deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
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Yes it is. Especially when you factor in the horsepower under the hood.

If I'm buying an X1 and PS4, I expect results, now that sufficient practical hardware are built into these consoles. 

Obviously, it takes time to produce a game, but this isn't 2005 anymore. Last gen, power was simply limited. There's no excuse anymore. 

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#78 FoxbatAlpha
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How about Minecraft at 120 fps?
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#79 tagyhag
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The problem is others didn't care for 60fps because they could only find it on Call of Duty. As primarily a PC Gamer, 60fps is standard by now and has been for years, having a 30fps experience is acceptable, but jarring, and there is not a single game that is made worse by 60fps. I'm glad more people are caring about 60fps now, even if they're hypocrites. :P
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#80 MacBoomStick
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[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Yes...yes it is

 

 

seanmcloughlin

I can't tell ... i'm assuming left is 30 and right is 60? but they look the same to me.

You can't tell a difference yet you got it right?

Except you just got it wrong even yourself. Left is 60 right is 30. Open them up in their own tab. They don't seem to play right embdedded into the page.
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#81 campzor
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60fps is amazing to have.
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#82 Tessellation
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inb4 bu bu bu teh cinematic experience therefore 30fps is needed :cry:..complete bullshit since that's mostly use in cut scene and you can have 60fps game with locked 24p cutscenes..and yes 60fps helps gameplay a lot and is 2013 for **** sake all games should be 1080/60fps on consoles.

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#83 toughtrasher
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I know lol, I hardly see a difference between 40 frames a sec vs 60, maybe just bc I don't play too many games

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#84 foxhound_fox
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TC obviously hasn't played many/any 60fps games.
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#85 MrGeezer
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There's no real-world scenario where that would ever be the trade off.

In my experience, with games I couldn't run max on my PC, getting them up towards 60fps was a matter of dropping the resolution down a few notches (1080p - 720p, or around there), potentially lowering some settings, or turning off functions that are only properly optimized on certain cards.

There's no game where the sacrifice for achieving 60fps is as big as lowering the graphical quality so much that they somehow look three full generations behind.

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I'd just like to point out that you had to drop the resolution. And...there was recently a topic here about how every next gen console game should be 1080p standard. I've also seen plenty of comments here about current gen console games and how their ugly textures and character models are just repulsive. So...we need 60fps, we need 1080p, and we need excellent textures and character models and effects with a high level of detail. Sorry, NOT GONNA HAPPEN. Something's gonna have to get sacrificed, and no matter what gets sacrificed there are always going to be people screaming that the developers sacrificed THE WRONG THING. You skimp on framerate, then you're gonna get people saying that's unacceptable. If you cut back on resolution, people are gonna scream that that's unacceptable. If you make the game uglier in order to allow it to be 1080p at 60fps, then you're gonna have people b****ing about how it's just unacceptably ugly. That's how consoles work. If you want everything, stick with a PC.
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#86 sukraj
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yes

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#87 the_bi99man
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I understand the response isn't as quick, but you adjust to the slight difference quickly and can still generally play as well.beefalo

Yeah... no. Nothing beats a high framerate for a shooter, or anything really face paced, especially a multiplayer shooter. 30 fps in mp in painful on the eyes once you're used to 60. And the difference in response time is very important.

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#88 bezza2011
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No people just get silly. 30fps is fine for certain games, first person shooters should be 60fps, because of the intense battles and speed you need to see, but single player games and more graphics which are enviroment based and don't need to move about is fine at 30fps, the most we really need is top notch 1080p as standard esp for us who are using bigger screens now. 

There a big difference in what you see frame rate wise when your using a hd pc monitor.

But i do agree tho really, moving up to next gen i was expecting that 1080p and 60fps would be standard esp when pc gaming is already hitting the hights of 120fps. But this comes down to developers and not the hardware. the hardware can support 1080p and 60fps it's just because it's a new platform and they will still be a slight learning curve even if it's close to making games on the pc. 

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#89 loosingENDS
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I don't get why everyone is so big on 60FPS, I've had no issue with 30FPS shooters so far. Obviously when you start going under 30 and especially around 20 it gets really choppy, but at a solid 30 I haven't had any issues. Am I the only one who would rather they target 30FPS with better graphics? I understand the response isn't as quick, but you adjust to the slight difference quickly and can still generally play as well. *EDIT* Adding a pollbeefalo

Never got the 60fps deal either, i cant even tell a difference in side by side comparissons

Obviously i would take better graphics and a steady 30fps over worse graphics and an unstable 60fps

There is not even a question about it

The most fun shooters i have played in my life is the Halo series and those are 30fps games

I guess the only genre 60fps makes sense is extremely fast games like DMC or Bayonetta or racers and about nothing else

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#90 Timbury
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When using mouse and keyboard I have to around 60fps otherwise it throws of my aim. If I'm using a controller a locked 30fps is fine.
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#91 ziggyww
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Even no I do most of my gaming on my consoles instead of my PC unless it is a strategy game or something like Diablo etc. I was hoping to see 1080P at 60FPS but if I had to pick between. 1) 1080P 30FPS. 2) 720P 60FPS. I would pick option 2 for the smoother gameplay and less blur. Saying that am alittle gutted it's not 1080P 60FPS maybe in a couple of years when their game engines are fully optimised we will get games at 1080/60
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#93 SaltyMeatballs
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For me no. As long as it's 30fps locked with no dips I don't mind. 60fps is better, but it just doesn't bother me, especially on consoles.
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#94 MFDOOM1983
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Consolites back to downplaying 60fps and 1080p I see.:)

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#95 Senor_Kami
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30 is good enough for me. I think most 60fps games look weird. It's like when you watch a TV that has that weird 120hz s**t on and it makes everything move so smooth that it's unrealistic and makes real life seem fake. To me, 30 vs 60 is like movie and TV content being 24fps vs 30-60. Sometimes lower just looks better.

No not really. I've manged to play just fine at 10-15 fps.

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That's way too rough for me for modern games. Dips that low are always noticeable and impede gameplay significantly. Maybe something like Tetris would still work fine at that rate, but modern games would be ass.
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#96 -Snooze-
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Paying £400 for a console that can't even run decent looking games at 60fps is a huge joke. If you strictly enjoy console for the games they provide, and not the technical brunt of the beast, then it's fine, but apparently system wars isn't like that

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#97 MK-Professor
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If is not 60fps is not worth playing

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#98 SaltyMeatballs
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If is not 60fps is not worth playing

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Then you missed out.
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#99 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

If is not 60fps is not worth playing

SaltyMeatballs

Then you missed out.

I don't

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#100 BeardMaster
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For me no. As long as it's 30fps locked with no dips I don't mind. 60fps is better, but it just doesn't bother me, especially on consoles.SaltyMeatballs

 

Same, my guess is alot of hermits are speaking in terms of unlocked 30fps average vs unlocked 60fps average. When in reality the locked 30fps of consoles is really more the equivalent of an unlocked 45fps on pc.