Is it possible to be Manticore without supporting XBone?

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#51 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="AD216"] i have no problem with the x1 personally, i see what direction they are going in. i dnt believe ms shouldve put these harsh drm policies on the console tho, especially the 24 hr check in. that is borderline ridiculous. the used game policy doesnt bother me as much because the only people that benefit from that is gamestop and other companies who r basically screwing gamers and devs.

The consumers who get to play more games than they otherwise would be able to afford also benefit, fwiw.

u dnt benefit unless a game is a few years old tho. i understand the theory that's out there but in reality, gamestop gives u 50% of what ur game is worth and charges the next person 95% of the full price. that's wrong on every level

They have a ton of overhead, and if you're too lazy to sell your game yourself, Gamestop is there to give you half of the game's value. It's not wrong on any level. It's just the free market at work.
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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="AD216"] nope, neither. im a gamer. ppl that show blind loyalty to a specific company r ridiculously stupid to me. every console will have something i desire in some way. what that is right now remains to be seen. i've literally owned every console sony, ms and nintendo has ever mad with the exception of the wii u which i plan on buying in the holiday 14 season. in my opinion, it should always be about the games, not the company.

How do you feel about the XBox One and its antigaming policies?

i have no problem with the x1 personally, i see what direction they are going in. i dnt believe ms shouldve put these harsh drm policies on the console tho, especially the 24 hr check in. that is borderline ridiculous. the used game policy doesnt bother me as much because the only people that benefit from that is gamestop and other companies who r basically screwing gamers and devs.

Well, I defer to "Boogie" aka 'Francis' when he said that the best thing that even XBox supporters can do is sit on the fence until it forces MS to change their policies. Also, I have a beach house that doesn't have internet (and yes, cell coverage sucks). So, I literally can't buy an XBox One to suit my needs as a gamer. I guess, being in a different position, I look at the policies differently.
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[QUOTE="AD216"]u dnt benefit unless a game is a few years old tho. i understand the theory that's out there but in reality, gamestop gives u 50% of what ur game is worth and charges the next person 95% of the full price. that's wrong on every levelJandurin
the point is they give you 50% of the worth of the game that you can then put toward another game if someone else feels like it's worth 95% of the cost for a used game vs 100% for a new one, that's their business

i respect what they do but at the same time, look at steam. u cant trade in games but at the same time, if u wait a few months to buy ur game u can save nearly $20-30 on the price.
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lmao then dnt consider urself a gamer. ur a casual that's only gaming because everyone else is doing it in some compacityAD216
i've been gaming since 1986 when my sister got a NES from her dad if i'm a "casual that games because other people are" then what are you mate? a "hardcore that games because it makes you look cool"?
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It's a damn name, who cares?

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i respect what they do but at the same time, look at steam. u cant trade in games but at the same time, if u wait a few months to buy ur game u can save nearly $20-30 on the price. AD216
this is a pointless post and you may as well wait a year and pay 10-20% instead of 30-50%
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="AD216"]u dnt benefit unless a game is a few years old tho. i understand the theory that's out there but in reality, gamestop gives u 50% of what ur game is worth and charges the next person 95% of the full price. that's wrong on every levelAD216
the point is they give you 50% of the worth of the game that you can then put toward another game if someone else feels like it's worth 95% of the cost for a used game vs 100% for a new one, that's their business

i respect what they do but at the same time, look at steam. u cant trade in games but at the same time, if u wait a few months to buy ur game u can save nearly $20-30 on the price.

A digital marketplace like Steam has a much greater ability to offer ridiculous sales than a brick and mortar store. There is just no way that Gamestop could ever sell new copies of games for 75%+ off. They wouldn't be able to cover shipping costs, let alone pay their employees and keep the lights on.
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#58 AD216
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"] How do you feel about the XBox One and its antigaming policies?

i have no problem with the x1 personally, i see what direction they are going in. i dnt believe ms shouldve put these harsh drm policies on the console tho, especially the 24 hr check in. that is borderline ridiculous. the used game policy doesnt bother me as much because the only people that benefit from that is gamestop and other companies who r basically screwing gamers and devs.

Well, I defer to "Boogie" aka 'Francis' when he said that the best thing that even XBox supporters can do is sit on the fence until it forces MS to change their policies. Also, I have a beach house that doesn't have internet (and yes, cell coverage sucks). So, I literally can't buy an XBox One to suit my needs as a gamer. I guess, being in a different position, I look at the policies differently.

i completely understand, i have no love for these policies at all. i believe there is a better way of stopping piracy and going digital but ms took the cheapest way out. i cant respect that at all and hopefully they find a way to rectify this in the end but at the same time, people will go where the games r and unless the x1 completely tanks, i dnt believe they will change a thing.
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hey ad216 does your keyboard have vowel keys
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[QUOTE="AD216"]i respect what they do but at the same time, look at steam. u cant trade in games but at the same time, if u wait a few months to buy ur game u can save nearly $20-30 on the price. Jandurin
this is a pointless post and you may as well wait a year and pay 10-20% instead of 30-50%

what? gamestop sales used games for $5 cheaper than the retail price. u wait 3-4 months and get the game at a wholesale price
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="AD216"]i respect what they do but at the same time, look at steam. u cant trade in games but at the same time, if u wait a few months to buy ur game u can save nearly $20-30 on the price. AD216
this is a pointless post and you may as well wait a year and pay 10-20% instead of 30-50%

what? gamestop sales used games for $5 cheaper than the retail price. u wait 3-4 months and get the game at a wholesale price

i'm talking about from steam
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="AD216"]i respect what they do but at the same time, look at steam. u cant trade in games but at the same time, if u wait a few months to buy ur game u can save nearly $20-30 on the price. AD216
this is a pointless post and you may as well wait a year and pay 10-20% instead of 30-50%

what? gamestop sales used games for $5 cheaper than the retail price. u wait 3-4 months and get the game at a wholesale price

If you wait 3-4 months, those used games are a whole lot cheaper than just $5 less than retail.
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[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] the point is they give you 50% of the worth of the game that you can then put toward another game if someone else feels like it's worth 95% of the cost for a used game vs 100% for a new one, that's their business

i respect what they do but at the same time, look at steam. u cant trade in games but at the same time, if u wait a few months to buy ur game u can save nearly $20-30 on the price.

A digital marketplace like Steam has a much greater ability to offer ridiculous sales than a brick and mortar store. There is just no way that Gamestop could ever sell new copies of games for 75%+ off. They wouldn't be able to cover shipping costs, let alone pay their employees and keep the lights on.

i completely understand that and that's why i try to avoid conversations about gamestop. i dnt agree with their policies but they are giving thousands of people jobs so i have no choice but to respect it.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] this is a pointless post and you may as well wait a year and pay 10-20% instead of 30-50%

what? gamestop sales used games for $5 cheaper than the retail price. u wait 3-4 months and get the game at a wholesale price

i'm talking about from steam

and then most games would be close to outdated at that time, especially an online game
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With all of the anti-gamer policies on this console as well as the TV TV TV TV Sports Sports Sports focus of the Xbone, can we judge anyone who considers themselves a gamer but not want to go anywhere near the XBone? Would your status as a Manticore be called into question only because a corporate entity outside of your influence happens to squirt out a machine that is, quite literally, a demon from Hell?

I'm curious, because in the specific case of the XBone, even long-time MS supporters are jumping ship on the thing. I can't even remember the last time a console was announced and you could still get a Day 1 preorder on the thing past a week. Even though Manticore status is the epitome of legends on SW, has that lofty goal just become completely unattainable outside the realm of logic and sound mind? Do our interests as gamers in a connected age with consumer rights and aspirations to be treated with dignity come first or does the relentless pursuit of games?

The mind does boggle.

Shewgenja

I am still a manticore. I like the games and console, but I am curretnly on a Microsoft gaming division strike at the moment. If they ever change their minds with their awful policies... I will be back like I always was before. The ball is in their court. Time for them to make a move or drown.

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and then most games would be close to outdated at that time, especially an online gameAD216
you call yourself a gamer and you think games get "outdated" i guess if all you want to do is shoot other kiddies in the latest shootfest, you're right
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#67 AD216
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[QUOTE="AD216"]and then most games would be close to outdated at that time, especially an online gameJandurin
you call yourself a gamer and you think games get "outdated" i guess if all you want to do is shoot other kiddies in the latest shootfest, you're right

lmao is that what i said? i'm saying most online games r dated within a year or so because of the rehashes. sports, fps, racing... ect. unless the devs are continuously updating the content. that's the world we live in. single player games however r completely different. it doesnt matter how much time passes, if ur playing it for the first time, its new to u
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] This. There's really no such thing.blue_hazy_basic
What happened to them?

The idea of a manticore originally was someone who had all the platforms and was more or less unbiased. In SW thats usually a means of stealth trolling, everyone has their biases, admit to it and bat for a team! Thats my view :P

Eveyone may be bias to a certain extent, but if you fully support each console and PC in general and buy the games you want for each, that doesn't qualify? I have been buying/playing games for ALL consoles for almost 30 years... th X1 will be the first main console I don;t buy, but it has nothing to do with being bias... it is principle and for the uture of gaming.

I would like to see my favorite hobby continue for another 30 years... however, it appears MS doesn't care if they tear down the industry as long as they make their money beofre if all goes up in flames. I'm sure I will miss out on some great games, and the console looks great. However, I bought the 360 (2 of them) and the Xbox (3 of them). I also have an Xbox library (xbx and 360 combined) that is probably over 200 games deep.

I have 100's of Nintendo games

100's of Sega games

100's of Playstation games

100's of PC games (a lot of which are not even listed on this site)

I would say I qualify if eve there was a case... hell, I would say most game collectors qualify.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="AD216"]and then most games would be close to outdated at that time, especially an online gameAD216
you call yourself a gamer and you think games get "outdated" i guess if all you want to do is shoot other kiddies in the latest shootfest, you're right

lmao is that what i said? i'm saying most online games r dated within a year or so because of the rehashes. sports, fps, racing... ect. unless the devs are continuously updating the content. that's the world we live in. single player games however r completely different. it doesnt matter how much time passes, if ur playing it for the first time, its new to u

so you play sports racing and fps games and think you're a real gamer sad
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You don't want to be a manticore. Manticores are funny, they think they're 100% unbiased and don't favor anything over the other. Newsflash, unless you're a robot, that's not physically possible.
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Yes because to me a Manticore doesn't have to own all the systems they just have to not hate on any of the systems.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] you call yourself a gamer and you think games get "outdated" i guess if all you want to do is shoot other kiddies in the latest shootfest, you're right

lmao is that what i said? i'm saying most online games r dated within a year or so because of the rehashes. sports, fps, racing... ect. unless the devs are continuously updating the content. that's the world we live in. single player games however r completely different. it doesnt matter how much time passes, if ur playing it for the first time, its new to u

so you play sports racing and fps games and think you're a real gamer sad

lmao kid i play nearly all if not all the genres. and since where a sports game and fps are 2 of the highest selling franchises in the history of gaming, that makes u sound even more terrible
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You don't become a manticore so you can be unbiased. You do it so you can bash a console from an informed, non-hypocritical position.
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lmao kid i play nearly all if not all the genres. and since where a sports game and fps are 2 of the highest selling franchises in the history of gaming, that makes u sound even more terribleAD216

:lol:

Unless you're 70 years old, you have no right to say that to Jand.

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You don't become a manticore so you can be unbiased. You do it so you can bash a console from an informed, non-hypocritical position.PurpleMan5000
lmao honestly, when ur not biased about a console it helps u to see it for what it really is. the x1 and ps4 can both sell out but if word of mouth is bad about either of them, they will be in trouble in the long run.
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lmao kid i play nearly all if not all the genres. and since where a sports game and fps are 2 of the highest selling franchises in the history of gaming, that makes u sound even more terribleAD216
haha yeah because #sold implies quality instead of just mindless drones running around in circles reacting to other people and shooting guns/throwing balls i really don't understand the current generation of sports/fps/assassin's creed type gamers of today like, fps are fun, sure, but not THE SAME FPS AGAIN AND AGAIN same wrt to AC type games and sports games
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 [QUOTE="AD216"]lmao kid i play nearly all if not all the genres. and since where a sports game and fps are 2 of the highest selling franchises in the history of gaming, that makes u sound even more terribletagyhag

:lol:

Unless you're 70 years old, you have no right to say that to Jand.

:lol: also :cry:
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 [QUOTE="AD216"]lmao kid i play nearly all if not all the genres. and since where a sports game and fps are 2 of the highest selling franchises in the history of gaming, that makes u sound even more terribletagyhag

:lol:

Unless you're 70 years old, you have no right to say that to Jand.

lmao i'm 27 so i believe i can call a 12 year old a kid. at least i'm assuming he's 12 based on the way he is articulating his arguments
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[QUOTE="AD216"]lmao kid i play nearly all if not all the genres. and since where a sports game and fps are 2 of the highest selling franchises in the history of gaming, that makes u sound even more terribleJandurin
haha yeah because #sold implies quality instead of just mindless drones running around in circles reacting to other people and shooting guns/throwing balls i really don't understand the current generation of sports/fps/assassin's creed type gamers of today like, fps are fun, sure, but not THE SAME FPS AGAIN AND AGAIN same wrt to AC type games and sports games

actually i do agree with that to a certain extent.
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lmao i'm 27 so i believe i can call a 12 year old a kid. at least i'm assuming he's 12 based on the way he is articulating his argumentsAD216
hey man at least i can afford a keyboard with vowels
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[QUOTE="AD216"]lmao i'm 27 so i believe i can call a 12 year old a kid. at least i'm assuming he's 12 based on the way he is articulating his argumentsJandurin
hey man at least i can afford a keyboard with vowels

lmao im in 3 conversations and 2 apps at the same time, im shorthanding to get through it all lmao
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"] What happened to them?WitIsWisdom

The idea of a manticore originally was someone who had all the platforms and was more or less unbiased. In SW thats usually a means of stealth trolling, everyone has their biases, admit to it and bat for a team! Thats my view :P

Eveyone may be bias to a certain extent, but if you fully support each console and PC in general and buy the games you want for each, that doesn't qualify? I have been buying/playing games for ALL consoles for almost 30 years... th X1 will be the first main console I don;t buy, but it has nothing to do with being bias... it is principle and for the uture of gaming.

I would like to see my favorite hobby continue for another 30 years... however, it appears MS doesn't care if they tear down the industry as long as they make their money beofre if all goes up in flames. I'm sure I will miss out on some great games, and the console looks great. However, I bought the 360 (2 of them) and the Xbox (3 of them). I also have an Xbox library (xbx and 360 combined) that is probably over 200 games deep.

I have 100's of Nintendo games

100's of Sega games

100's of Playstation games

100's of PC games (a lot of which are not even listed on this site)

I would say I qualify if eve there was a case... hell, I would say most game collectors qualify.

^ This is exactly why I made the thread. I'm all for gaming moving forward. I don't think the rules were written with the concept that a console or any gaming machine would be architected as a weapon to use against gamers. There's no precedent for it.
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There's no precedent for it.Shewgenja
i hope it's the last we see of it, too
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[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] The idea of a manticore originally was someone who had all the platforms and was more or less unbiased. In SW thats usually a means of stealth trolling, everyone has their biases, admit to it and bat for a team! Thats my view :PShewgenja

Eveyone may be bias to a certain extent, but if you fully support each console and PC in general and buy the games you want for each, that doesn't qualify? I have been buying/playing games for ALL consoles for almost 30 years... th X1 will be the first main console I don;t buy, but it has nothing to do with being bias... it is principle and for the uture of gaming.

I would like to see my favorite hobby continue for another 30 years... however, it appears MS doesn't care if they tear down the industry as long as they make their money beofre if all goes up in flames. I'm sure I will miss out on some great games, and the console looks great. However, I bought the 360 (2 of them) and the Xbox (3 of them). I also have an Xbox library (xbx and 360 combined) that is probably over 200 games deep.

I have 100's of Nintendo games

100's of Sega games

100's of Playstation games

100's of PC games (a lot of which are not even listed on this site)

I would say I qualify if eve there was a case... hell, I would say most game collectors qualify.

^ This is exactly why I made the thread. I'm all for gaming moving forward. I don't think the rules were written with the concept that a console or any gaming machine would be architected as a weapon to use against gamers. There's no precedent for it.

the 24hr check in is definitely anti consumer and like i said, i see and understand that they are trying to move gaming forward but there are better ways.
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]There's no precedent for it.Jandurin
i hope it's the last we see of it, too

i hope it doesnt even make it far enough to where we have to see it at all
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#86 always_explicit
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[QUOTE="AD216"]u dnt benefit unless a game is a few years old tho. i understand the theory that's out there but in reality, gamestop gives u 50% of what ur game is worth and charges the next person 95% of the full price. that's wrong on every levelJandurin
the point is they give you 50% of the worth of the game that you can then put toward another game if someone else feels like it's worth 95% of the cost for a used game vs 100% for a new one, that's their business

You post so frequently. One would expect that your posts would increase in substance and quality. Alas...this has not been the case with you.
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#87 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="always_explicit"]You post so frequently. One would expect that your posts would increase in substance and quality. Alas...this has not been the case with you.

There is literally nothing wrong with what I posted. Are you okay? Are you sad because no one likes the things you like? It's okay, some day you'll get over it and realize you can like things on your own, even if the people around you don't :)
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#88 themajormayor
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To buy an xbone you have to be a pretty hardcore lemming tbh. A real manticore goes with PS4 and PC.
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#89 WitIsWisdom
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You don't want to be a manticore. Manticores are funny, they think they're 100% unbiased and don't favor anything over the other. Newsflash, unless you're a robot, that's not physically possible.tagyhag

How so? I liked the PS2 and original Xbox equally. I prefered the games on the PS3 this generation over the games on 360, but I like the 360 UI and ease of access and online features more, while I still loved Nintendo exclusives which as alwys are in a league of their own. However, the Wii was my least favorite of the 3 overall even though a couple of the games were either at the top or damn near the top of my favorite games of the generation.

Nintendo and PC can provide MUCH different experiences than Playstation and Xbox.

SOME people prefer the best of ALL worlds.

Why the hell would I be bias when I grew up with all the consoles way before online gaming even existed?

One minute I would play Mario, then the next Sonic. As I got a little older I could play Goldeneye, MoH, Halo, Red Faction, Doom, Quake (just to name 1 genre)... etc. etc.

My top 10 in each genre list would easily vary from all consoles and makers over every generation. Explain that.

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#90 AD216
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]You don't want to be a manticore. Manticores are funny, they think they're 100% unbiased and don't favor anything over the other. Newsflash, unless you're a robot, that's not physically possible.WitIsWisdom

How so? I liked the PS2 and original Xbox equally. I prefered the games on the PS3 this generation over the games on 360, but I like the 360 UI and ease of access and online features more, while I still loved Nintendo exclusives which as alwys are in a league of their own. However, the Wii was my least favorite of the 3 overall even though a couple of the games were either at the top or damn near the top of my favorite games of the generation.

Nintendo and PC can provide MUCH different experiences than Playstation and Xbox.

SOME people prefer the best of ALL worlds.

Why the hell would I be bias when I grew up with all the consoles way before online gaming even existed?

One minute I would play Mario, then the next Sonic. As I got a little older I could play Goldeneye, MoH, Halo, Red Faction, Doom, Quake (just to name 1 genre)... etc. etc.

My top 10 in each genre list would easily vary from all consoles and makers over every generation. Explain that.

exactly. we grew up with all of these different machines so why should we want to see any of them die or under perform? thats what some of these kids refuse to comprehend
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#91 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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To buy an xbone you have to be a pretty hardcore lemming tbh. A real manticore goes with PS4 and PC.themajormayor
gtfo here mayor
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#92 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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exactly. we grew up with all of these different machines so why should we want to see any of them die or under perform? thats what some of these kids refuse to comprehendAD216
when one of these (a latecomer no less) decides to make system level DRM...
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#93 no-scope-AK47
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To buy an xbone you have to be a pretty hardcore lemming tbh. A real manticore goes with PS4 and PC.themajormayor

This or pc/pee u

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#94 T-Bone91
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Your question got me thinking.Last gen started with me being a cow who then went onto get a gaming PC and finally a 360 but this gen I'll probably just have a PC and PS4 I guess,so what breed will we be when next gen consoles finally come out?
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#95 AD216
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[QUOTE="AD216"]exactly. we grew up with all of these different machines so why should we want to see any of them die or under perform? thats what some of these kids refuse to comprehendJandurin
when one of these (a latecomer no less) decides to make system level DRM...

lmao the drm was already in place this gen, they just chose to exacerbate it. hopefully since it's "up to devs" allegedly, they choose not to implement it
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#96 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="AD216"]exactly. we grew up with all of these different machines so why should we want to see any of them die or under perform? thats what some of these kids refuse to comprehendAD216
when one of these (a latecomer no less) decides to make system level DRM...

lmao the drm was already in place this gen, they just chose to exacerbate it. hopefully since it's "up to devs" allegedly, they choose not to implement it

um are you saying that there will be games that you won't have to check in with for the xb1?
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#97 funsohng
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Manticores lol I play games, not show off that I spend that much money on gaming and have no life.
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#98 whiskeystrike
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Manticore was just a front during the old ToU for people to present themselves as "fair and balanced." No one really cares now because you're allowed to call somehing a piece of shit without getting slapped with a suspension for offending someone.  

You don't have to own it all to not be a complete dipshit. 

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#99 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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anyway the self-professed manticores were the worst of the lot wasdie, bioshockownz, solidty
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#100 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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oh god and subrosian