I believe that title goes to the MGS series and Uncharted 2.
Zero_epyon
MGS has the worse story ever told. Kojima throws way too many weird things out there with no explanations and then at the end you are suppose to get answers with long cutscenes. Horrible way for a video game to tell a story. AAAAE MGS4 says hi.How does a game that has just in one of its cutscenes that lasts 90 minutes to tell the story and that does not even include all the other cutscene ones make a a epic movie experience through gameplay? I am talking about games that use more gameplay then CGI or any style of cutscene
[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="h575309"] I have ME2 arguments with u before too. I've seen you post about it in every thread with venomous vitrol. All I can see from the posts is a) someone who hasn't played it and b) has read a bit on wikipedia and watched a few youtube videos. You can not like a game, but when you just spam EVERY SINGLE ME thread with the same old stuff it crosses the line between dislike and trolling. You spout the same stuff in every thread and don't add to the discussion. Are people not allowed to like a game without someone posting 5 times a page bashing it and anyone's opinion who likes it?blue_hazy_basic
I am not trolling and i am adding to the discussion.... Is ME 2 the best most cinematic game ever? No it's overated. See that's called adding to the discussion. "Granted anyone would be interested in making a movie of a generic sci and stupid sci fi story." How does that add to the discussion? You aren't giving any constructive opinion just bashing. Well he said that a ME story wouldn't fit in one movie. I said that they could pull it off, but no one cares, the universe is not that good to begin with. Just another Star Trek clone. See that's an opinion and adds to the discussion.
[QUOTE="Nerdja"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Nerdja"] It was about figuring out how he died and what he left behind. I'd rather watch the history channel to get a better explanation. Ah, so you didn't play the game. Good day sir. You didn't play the game because the story revolves around this plot. Good day to you. Well at first you ask what happened to marco polo as if it was left unexplained. It wasn't. Then you ask who does drake really love. Then you say the story is about figuring out how marco polo died (no it wasn't at all, they all knew how he died) and they were trying to find what he DISCOVERED not left behind, before a psychopathic war criminal finds it first. In between are freindships being questioned, backstabbing, love triangles, character deaths, plot twists and the occasional supernatural events. So you saying it was boring by picking two pieces of the story that you obviously paid no attention to makes me question if you even played the game.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] I am not trolling and i am adding to the discussion.... Is ME 2 the best most cinematic game ever? No it's overated. See that's called adding to the discussion.Revan_911
"Granted anyone would be interested in making a movie of a generic sci and stupid sci fi story." How does that add to the discussion? You aren't giving any constructive opinion just bashing. Well he said that a ME story wouldn't fit in one movie. I said that they could pull it off, but no one cares, the universe is not that good to begin with. Just another Star Trek clone. See that's an opinion and adds to the discussion. What about it is a Star Trek clone other than that they are in space?
[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="h575309"] I have ME2 arguments with u before too. I've seen you post about it in every thread with venomous vitrol. All I can see from the posts is a) someone who hasn't played it and b) has read a bit on wikipedia and watched a few youtube videos. You can not like a game, but when you just spam EVERY SINGLE ME thread with the same old stuff it crosses the line between dislike and trolling. You spout the same stuff in every thread and don't add to the discussion. Are people not allowed to like a game without someone posting 5 times a page bashing it and anyone's opinion who likes it?h575309
I am not trolling and i am adding to the discussion.... Is ME 2 the best most cinematic game ever? No it's overated. See that's called adding to the discussion. Umm no its not. You give no reasons as to why you think its overrated. You just spam hate about the game when clearly you've already put your foot in your mouth about knowing anything about it. Why should we respect your opinion? Instead, you could actually state why you think its overrated, with actual knowledge of how the game plays. But, then again, you'd have to play it first. It's not a discussion on why this game is overated. TC asked is this game is the most cinematic game ever. I said hell no. I don't have to write paragraphs on every oppinion of mine. Im gona post proof that i have the game, just wait a sec.
MGS4 is just a convuluted trainwreck of Kojima's ideas. That game has the most long and drawn out cutscenes in the history of gaming. And this is coming from someone who loves MGS1-3. One of the worst endings in videogame history too, ugh.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] I am not trolling and i am adding to the discussion.... Is ME 2 the best most cinematic game ever? No it's overated. See that's called adding to the discussion.Revan_911
"Granted anyone would be interested in making a movie of a generic sci and stupid sci fi story." How does that add to the discussion? You aren't giving any constructive opinion just bashing. Well he said that a ME story wouldn't fit in one movie. I said that they could pull it off, but no one cares, the universe is not that good to begin with. Just another Star Trek clone. See that's an opinion and adds to the discussion.Its an opinion but it deosn't add to the discussion. You didn't say that, if you had it might have been different, instead you said "generic sci and stupid sci fi story".
I believe that title goes to the MGS series and Uncharted 2.
Nerdja
MGS has the worse story ever told. Kojima throws way too many weird things out there with no explanations and then at the end you are suppose to get answers with long cutscenes. Horrible way for a video game to tell a story.
Yes... because that's how you usually get answers in a game, via cutscenes. What, you expect while your fighting a group of militia or sneaking past them, you're talking to Otakon about the The Patriots in the background? "Uh yeah, Snake. I know you're kinda in the middle of fighting a group of robots and bisexual vampires, but I think you should know that when zero becomes one..." :lol:
Bioware could hand the script to hollywood and they wouldn't have to make any additions, they would just have to cut content to get it down to a 3 hour movie. The amount of writing Bioware has put into this game is mind blowing. All of the information in Codex and the daily news updates is incredible.
[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Nerdja"] MGS has the worse story ever told. Kojima throws way too many weird things out there with no explanations and then at the end you are suppose to get answers with long cutscenes. Horrible way for a video game to tell a story.SilentlyMad
AAAAE MGS4 says hi.How does a game that has just in one of its cutscenes that lasts 90 minutes to tell the story and that does not even include all the other cutscene ones make a a epic movie experience through gameplay? I am talking about games that use more gameplay then CGI or any style of cutscene There were cutscenes that got you involved in the gameplay in MGS4, Raiden vs Vamp, Running from the Raven Squad with Big Mama on the motorcycle, snake crawling through the microwave chamber. I can't remember if there were anymore but those were the most memorable. This is why MGS4 got the score it got because it blended this techniques well into the story.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] I am not trolling and i am adding to the discussion.... Is ME 2 the best most cinematic game ever? No it's overated. See that's called adding to the discussion.Revan_911
"Granted anyone would be interested in making a movie of a generic sci and stupid sci fi story." How does that add to the discussion? You aren't giving any constructive opinion just bashing. Well he said that a ME story wouldn't fit in one movie. I said that they could pull it off, but no one cares, the universe is not that good to begin with. Just another Star Trek clone. See that's an opinion and adds to the discussion. No one cares? You mean, the whole thread of people opposing your close-minded opinion doesn't constitute a fanbase? I am pretty sure that judging from the Bioware forums and fact that they made a sequel to the original Mass Effect, both of which sold millions, mean that people care. A lot
[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] I am not trolling and i am adding to the discussion.... Is ME 2 the best most cinematic game ever? No it's overated. See that's called adding to the discussion.Revan_911
Umm no its not. You give no reasons as to why you think its overrated. You just spam hate about the game when clearly you've already put your foot in your mouth about knowing anything about it. Why should we respect your opinion? Instead, you could actually state why you think its overrated, with actual knowledge of how the game plays. But, then again, you'd have to play it first. It's not a discussion on why this game is overated. TC asked is this game is the most cinematic game ever. I said hell no. I don't have to write paragraphs on every oppinion of mine. Im gona post proof that i have the game, just wait a sec. I can show you the disk of MW2, I've never played, but I have it. Can I go and bash it now?
I have to say that Garrus gif makes me almost put on the sad face because [spoiler] in about 3 seconds he is about to get shot to hell. He lives though for anyone reading the spoiler and never played but seems to be scared for life. [/spoiler]
[QUOTE="DarthBilf"][QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] "Granted anyone would be interested in making a movie of a generic sci and stupid sci fi story." How does that add to the discussion? You aren't giving any constructive opinion just bashing. Well he said that a ME story wouldn't fit in one movie. I said that they could pull it off, but no one cares, the universe is not that good to begin with. Just another Star Trek clone. See that's an opinion and adds to the discussion. What about it is a Star Trek clone other than that they are in space? The races, I've seen them all before. Klingon = Krogan. Also the Cidatel races is like the Federation in Star Trek. Geth = Borg, they even have the collective consience and what not. The glossary or the codex rips a lot of stuff from Star Trek. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z142/Micoo11/untitled-3.jpg Heres proof. See Mass Effect 2 in the taskbar.
[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]I have to say that Garrus gif makes me almost put on the sad face because [spoiler] in about 3 seconds he is about to get shot to hell. He lives though for anyone reading the spoiler and never played but seems to be scared for life. [/spoiler] LOL I was thinking the same thing. I was wondering if there was any way of avoiding that while doing my second playthrough. Unfortunately, that's written in stone. I like Garrus, kinda guy you can hang out with on the weekend but will go out and slaughter people by the hundreds on the weekdays for fun.
[QUOTE="DarthBilf"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] Well he said that a ME story wouldn't fit in one movie. I said that they could pull it off, but no one cares, the universe is not that good to begin with. Just another Star Trek clone. See that's an opinion and adds to the discussion.Revan_911
What about it is a Star Trek clone other than that they are in space? The races, I've seen them all before. Klingon = Krogan. Also the Cidatel races is like the Federation in Star Trek. Geth = Borg, they even have the collective consience and what not. The glossary or the codex rips a lot of stuff from Star Trek. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z142/Micoo11/untitled-3.jpg Heres proof. See Mass Effect 2 in the taskbar. Have you finished the game? If you have, put a spoiler tag in and tell us what happens...
[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="DarthBilf"] What about it is a Star Trek clone other than that they are in space? h575309
The races, I've seen them all before. Klingon = Krogan. Also the Cidatel races is like the Federation in Star Trek. Geth = Borg, they even have the collective consience and what not. The glossary or the codex rips a lot of stuff from Star Trek. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z142/Micoo11/untitled-3.jpg Heres proof. See Mass Effect 2 in the taskbar. Have you finished the game? If you have, put a spoiler tag in and tell us what happens... What does that prove i can look at that on youtube ...
[QUOTE="DarthBilf"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] Well he said that a ME story wouldn't fit in one movie. I said that they could pull it off, but no one cares, the universe is not that good to begin with. Just another Star Trek clone. See that's an opinion and adds to the discussion.Revan_911
What about it is a Star Trek clone other than that they are in space? The races, I've seen them all before. Klingon = Krogan. Also the Cidatel races is like the Federation in Star Trek. Geth = Borg, they even have the collective consience and what not. The glossary or the codex rips a lot of stuff from Star Trek. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z142/Micoo11/untitled-3.jpg Heres proof. See Mass Effect 2 in the taskbar. What were your 2 favourite battles in the game and why?
Bioware could hand the script to hollywood and they wouldn't have to make any additions, they would just have to cut content to get it down to a 3 hour movie. The amount of writing Bioware has put into this game is mind blowing. All of the information in Codex and the daily news updates is incredible.lhughey
Seems a person invlovled in Marvel Comics movies already has the right to it from recenmt events I agree also even with the codex alone it is easy as heck to write Mass Effect movies since so much of the universe is already written out. ME is a easy choice for a game made into a movie since there is just so much areas to explore and writters do not even have to create since Bioware has the story laid out.
[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="DarthBilf"] What about it is a Star Trek clone other than that they are in space? blue_hazy_basic
The races, I've seen them all before. Klingon = Krogan. Also the Cidatel races is like the Federation in Star Trek. Geth = Borg, they even have the collective consience and what not. The glossary or the codex rips a lot of stuff from Star Trek. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z142/Micoo11/untitled-3.jpg Heres proof. See Mass Effect 2 in the taskbar. What were your 2 favourite battles in the game and why? The Spaceship/Prison. Reminded me of Butcher Bay. And Suicide mission felt really epic.
[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] The races, I've seen them all before. Klingon = Krogan. Also the Cidatel races is like the Federation in Star Trek. Geth = Borg, they even have the collective consience and what not. The glossary or the codex rips a lot of stuff from Star Trek. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z142/Micoo11/untitled-3.jpg Heres proof. See Mass Effect 2 in the taskbar.blue_hazy_basic
Have you finished the game? If you have, put a spoiler tag in and tell us what happens... What does that prove i can look at that on youtube ... This is true. Damn youtube.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] The races, I've seen them all before. Klingon = Krogan. Also the Cidatel races is like the Federation in Star Trek. Geth = Borg, they even have the collective consience and what not. The glossary or the codex rips a lot of stuff from Star Trek. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z142/Micoo11/untitled-3.jpg Heres proof. See Mass Effect 2 in the taskbar.Revan_911
What were your 2 favourite battles in the game and why? The Spaceship/Prison. Reminded me of Butcher Bay. And Suicide mission felt really epic. I didn't like the prison much. It was too short. and Jack is annoying. Suicide mission was done really well though.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] The races, I've seen them all before. Klingon = Krogan. Also the Cidatel races is like the Federation in Star Trek. Geth = Borg, they even have the collective consience and what not. The glossary or the codex rips a lot of stuff from Star Trek. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z142/Micoo11/untitled-3.jpg Heres proof. See Mass Effect 2 in the taskbar.Revan_911
What were your 2 favourite battles in the game and why? The Spaceship/Prison. Reminded me of Butcher Bay. And Suicide mission felt really epic. So you admit that it felt epic, so why say its an awful game? :?
EDIT and butcher bay, there was a game with a movie feel to it
[QUOTE="lhughey"]Bioware could hand the script to hollywood and they wouldn't have to make any additions, they would just have to cut content to get it down to a 3 hour movie. The amount of writing Bioware has put into this game is mind blowing. All of the information in Codex and the daily news updates is incredible.SilentlyMad
Seems a person invlovled in Marvel Comics movies already has the right to it from recenmt events I agree also even with the codex alone it is easy as heck to write Mass Effect movies sine so much of the universe is already written out. ME is a easy choice for a game made into a movie since there is just so much areas to explore. That script would get laughed at. I mean I've read some of the codex, but that doesn't mean anything. I can write a bunch of mumbo jumbo about alien life cycles and history and wars ect.
[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] What were your 2 favourite battles in the game and why?blue_hazy_basic
The Spaceship/Prison. Reminded me of Butcher Bay. And Suicide mission felt really epic. So you admit that it felt epic, so why say its an awful game? :? The last battle felt epic. But it doesn't matter because i spent 15 hours of the game bored out of my mind. And the last boss was pretty dumb you have to admit. Anything would had sufficed but that.
[QUOTE="lhughey"]Bioware could hand the script to hollywood and they wouldn't have to make any additions, they would just have to cut content to get it down to a 3 hour movie. The amount of writing Bioware has put into this game is mind blowing. All of the information in Codex and the daily news updates is incredible.Revan_911
Seems a person invlovled in Marvel Comics movies already has the right to it from recenmt events I agree also even with the codex alone it is easy as heck to write Mass Effect movies sine so much of the universe is already written out. ME is a easy choice for a game made into a movie since there is just so much areas to explore. That script would get laughed at. I mean I've read some of the codex, but that doesn't mean anything. I can write a bunch of mumbo jumbo about alien life cycles and history and wars ect.Do not bother responding to my posts since I would never bother trying to debate you. It is clear your intentions. I still do not think you have ever even played the game and no amount of talking about stuff that you can in a few clicks see on youtube.com will ever make me think different.
Even though I don't own a PS3, I've had a chance to play through all of Uncharted 2 and some of MGS4. And that feels more like a movie experience. But Mass Effect 2 is an excellent game.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] The Spaceship/Prison. Reminded me of Butcher Bay. And Suicide mission felt really epic.Revan_911
So you admit that it felt epic, so why say its an awful game? :? The last battle felt epic. But it doesn't matter because i spent 15 hours of the game bored out of my mind. And the last boss was pretty dumb you have to admit. Anything would had sufficed but that. It sounded like a transformer character to me. But it was an interesting twist,
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] The Spaceship/Prison. Reminded me of Butcher Bay. And Suicide mission felt really epic.Revan_911
So you admit that it felt epic, so why say its an awful game? :? The last battle felt epic. But it doesn't matter because i spent 15 hours of the game bored out of my mind. And the last boss was pretty dumb you have to admit. Anything would had sufficed but that. I will admit I loved the idea of him, but the final battle felt a little contrived (and I just blasted him with a M-Cain, few more shots and down u go) - trying not to give away any major spoilers!
as an EPIC yes. Theoretically speaking Mass Effect 2s more of an EPIC movie, where as Uncharted 2 plays more like the popcorn fun adventure movies. But I think Uncharted 2 definantly is as good if not superior interms of cinematic presentation. IT's really a matter of comparing 2 fantastic games though.
I think I'd call Uncharted 2 the best example. Nothing wrong with ME3, but despite the amazing story and direction, it can feel disjointed changing conversation stances mid conversation, while it feels more like an epic TV show in its size. The facial animations are about the same for both, very detailed but I have to give it to U2 for detail in cinematics.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] The Spaceship/Prison. Reminded me of Butcher Bay. And Suicide mission felt really epic.Revan_911
So you admit that it felt epic, so why say its an awful game? :? The last battle felt epic. But it doesn't matter because i spent 15 hours of the game bored out of my mind. And the last boss was pretty dumb you have to admit. Anything would had sufficed but that. Bored out of your mind? Almost every dossier and loyalty mission was packed with combat... Not to mention the other story missions. What class did you play as?
[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] So you admit that it felt epic, so why say its an awful game? :?h575309
The last battle felt epic. But it doesn't matter because i spent 15 hours of the game bored out of my mind. And the last boss was pretty dumb you have to admit. Anything would had sufficed but that. Bored out of your mind? Almost every dossier and loyalty mission was packed with combat... Not to mention the other story missions. What class did you play as? Thats true playing through my 2nd time as soldier and no where near as fun as an adept.
[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] So you admit that it felt epic, so why say its an awful game? :?h575309
The last battle felt epic. But it doesn't matter because i spent 15 hours of the game bored out of my mind. And the last boss was pretty dumb you have to admit. Anything would had sufficed but that. Bored out of your mind? Almost every dossier and loyalty mission was packed with combat... Not to mention the other story missions. What class did you play as? I didn't care about dossiers and loyalty missions. Where was the main plot man? Miranda and Jacob i would have used trough the entire game, it's not like it felt drastically different experimenting with different squad members. In the end they would get killed by a rocket shot (there is no avoiding this, if an enemy fires rockets both team mates are dead). I wanted a main story plot, not just some side missions for characters i didn't care about.
[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] The last battle felt epic. But it doesn't matter because i spent 15 hours of the game bored out of my mind. And the last boss was pretty dumb you have to admit. Anything would had sufficed but that.Revan_911
Bored out of your mind? Almost every dossier and loyalty mission was packed with combat... Not to mention the other story missions. What class did you play as? I didn't care about dossiers and loyalty missions. Where was the main plot man? Miranda and Jacob i would have used trough the entire game, it's not like it felt drastically different experimenting with different squad members. In the end they would get killed by a rocket shot (there is no avoiding this, if an enemy fires rockets both team mates are dead). I wanted a main story plot, not just some side missions for characters i didn't care about. Eh? You were doing all wrong! *facepalm* lol
I haven't played ME2, but it certainly seems like a cinematic game based off what I saw. Still, Uncharted 2 is pretty much as epic movie adventure as you can get. I can safely say this is really the game that pulls it off on all fronts.
[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="h575309"] Bored out of your mind? Almost every dossier and loyalty mission was packed with combat... Not to mention the other story missions. What class did you play as?blue_hazy_basic
I didn't care about dossiers and loyalty missions. Where was the main plot man? Miranda and Jacob i would have used trough the entire game, it's not like it felt drastically different experimenting with different squad members. In the end they would get killed by a rocket shot (there is no avoiding this, if an enemy fires rockets both team mates are dead). I wanted a main story plot, not just some side missions for characters i didn't care about. Eh? You were doing all wrong! *facepalm* lol Don't tell me that it's not true. The A.I was so dumb, they would not stay in cover, they kept getting hit by rockets all the time. And this game felt like 20% action 40% scanning planets and wandering aimlessly trough the galaxy and 40% navigating trough the Normandy hoping some party member will talk to you.
[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] The last battle felt epic. But it doesn't matter because i spent 15 hours of the game bored out of my mind. And the last boss was pretty dumb you have to admit. Anything would had sufficed but that.Revan_911
Bored out of your mind? Almost every dossier and loyalty mission was packed with combat... Not to mention the other story missions. What class did you play as? I didn't care about dossiers and loyalty missions. Where was the main plot man? Miranda and Jacob i would have used trough the entire game, it's not like it felt drastically different experimenting with different squad members. In the end they would get killed by a rocket shot (there is no avoiding this, if an enemy fires rockets both team mates are dead). I wanted a main story plot, not just some side missions for characters i didn't care about. The whole point of the plot was to build up a team :| and the characters were exceptionally well done, even the cliche characters that were easyly more archtypes than anything special were very well done. Their loyalty was a major focus of the game, and played a large part in the conclusion. Besides the game brought the game to the main plot when needed. The only thing really lacking is that the structure is a bit too annoying(team building, then one final run), and that some of the grander choices weren't there this time until around the end. Overall the game was pretty well done. Predictable level design, but very good level design that was varied enough to really enjoy the combat of ME2. Fun moments kept in the players hand all around to be frank.
[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] The last battle felt epic. But it doesn't matter because i spent 15 hours of the game bored out of my mind. And the last boss was pretty dumb you have to admit. Anything would had sufficed but that.blue_hazy_basic
Bored out of your mind? Almost every dossier and loyalty mission was packed with combat... Not to mention the other story missions. What class did you play as? Thats true playing through my 2nd time as soldier and no where near as fun as an adept.I have to agree. I think both are just as powerful but they have to played very different. I just finished a hardcore on adept and am now doing a hardcore on soldier and it is very clear the difference. In a nutshell adept is for RPGers and squad based players while soldier is more for solo players. As a soldier with maxed tungsten rounds+ adrenaline rush= solo killer but less impressive. Still need team just not as much. Adept needs more team based but singularity+warp explosion = many dead and always brings a smile. Plus pull+ narrow area=throw=fun watching bad guy go flying.
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