Is PC's Steam the BEST Gaming Service in the World?

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#101 DragonfireXZ95
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Absolutely not, the service is COMPLETE crap. Xfire renders it OBSOLETE.

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How does Xfire render it obsolete... When so many games have Steam integrated directly into the game?
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#103 DragonfireXZ95
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Its a store that occasionally doens't allow me to play the games I buy, i havn't been able to play black ops all week because it just says game not available, its not a gaming service, its a store, stores have sales, you can buy retail games at dirt cheap prices if you find a sale, those retail games i'm not effectively locked out of if something is wrong, so is steam convenient for buying games... yes, is it always better.... nosavagetwinkie
Notice it's only the console players that can't download their "bought" games off Steam.
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#104 Maroxad
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So you're saying Steam charges almost twice as much for each game? Are they the only ones that do that? If so then you win. I wouldn't buy from them either. MrSelf-Destruct

Games that cost 50 dollars on steam usually are 50 euro as well, same goes with cheaper games, though there are exceptions to this rule. There is a thread with over 8000 posts on this. Unfortunately, Steam is not the only one guilty of this and most online stores do the same :( This is because games in europe are in general more expensive than they are in the states.

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#105 abuabed
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Yes it is and it's FREE.
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#106 PcGamingRig
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the only game over £20 i have bought was Dead Space 2, and that was even down to £24.99 a week after release.

but the rest of my games have all been bought for under £20, a few months after release.

and a lot of them are big titles.

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#107 kalipekona
Member since 2003 • 2492 Posts

I like it a lot better than Xbox Live or PSN. Some incredible deals on Steam too. But I admit I don't buy most of my games from there. Service-wise, though, it's the best in my opinion.

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#108 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

Absolutely not, the service is COMPLETE crap. Xfire renders it OBSOLETE.

DragonfireXZ95
How does Xfire render it obsolete... When so many games have Steam integrated directly into the game?

Xfire and RAPTR offer better networking and tracking, thats a no brainer, steams community is rubbish, the only good thing about it is ofcourse the shopping content.
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#109 HFkami
Member since 2009 • 855 Posts

Bnet is the best

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#110 R4gn4r0k
Member since 2004 • 49125 Posts

Steam itself sucks. I hate it, just another form of lame ass drm. The deals on steam however I love. But you can find similar deals on pretty much all the DD services on the net.i5750at4Ghz

Same here. The sales are amazing but don't suddenly make it the best gaming service in the world.

I rarely buy on steam anymore since they made €=$ , it's crazy to pay €50-€60 for games when I can get physical copies for €20 cheaper in a store ...

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#111 Birdy09
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Bnet is the best

HFkami
Why? it does nothing....
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#112 HFkami
Member since 2009 • 855 Posts

[QUOTE="HFkami"]

Bnet is the best

Birdy09

Why? it does nothing....

it host my games

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#113 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="HFkami"]

Bnet is the best

HFkami

Why? it does nothing....

it host my games

All 2 of them? :P
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#114 HailedJohnDman
Member since 2010 • 1588 Posts

its obviously PSN

/sarcasm

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#115 Secret-Face
Member since 2011 • 223 Posts
Nope. It had far too many problems with interface, game issues and prices.
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#116 Crimsader
Member since 2008 • 11672 Posts
Nope. It had far too many problems with interface, game issues and prices.Secret-Face
Oh, yeah man, especially price problems.
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#118 drinkerofjuice
Member since 2007 • 4567 Posts
If it wasn't for Steam, PC wouldn't be in the state of prominence it is now. If it's not THE best, it's damn well one of the best.
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#119 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Secret-Face"]Nope. It had far too many problems with interface, game issues and prices.Crimsader
Oh, yeah man, especially price problems.

I agree. The constant game issues as well! Technically they'd be the developer's fault, since Steam is only a client to launch the program and automatically updates any fixes for you, but this seems like a good time to whine.

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#120 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Crimsader"][QUOTE="Secret-Face"]Nope. It had far too many problems with interface, game issues and prices.Danm_999

Oh, yeah man, especially price problems.

I agree. The constant game issues as well! Technically they'd be the developer's fault, since Steam is only a client to launch the program and automatically updates any fixes for you, but this seems like a good time to whine.

Payment problems aswell, along with the worst response time in customer service history and the least ways of contacting them properly (exaguration but still true) aaaaaand this damn lock out system that fails to save my laptop everytime, so I need to re-do the email code verification everytime I want to play RIFT for some reason :(
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#121 Jebus213
Member since 2010 • 10056 Posts

The thing Steam is really lacking is game support...The only way you get that real support is if you buy/download the game off of Steam. Thats why I also have Xfire and Raptr installed.

Xfire supports almost 2000 games and most of those aren't even being sold on Steam.

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#122 cain006
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For sure, I just bought GTA1, GTA2, GTA3, GTA-VC, and GTA-SA for $7.50. Unfortunately none of them have Steam Achievements, and the first game crashes upon start-up, neither of which would happen on a PS3 or 360. Yet still freaking awesome. Problem is, I just prefer disc based games though, so that's why I have about 20 Steam games and around 60-80 PS3/360/Wii games...

paradigm68

Of course it doesn't, you can't even play it on ps3 or 360.

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#123 clone01
Member since 2003 • 29845 Posts

I don't really game on PC, but I've heard the deals are great on Steam.

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#124 campzor
Member since 2004 • 34932 Posts
yes... whoever says otherwise clearly hasnt used steam extensively
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#125 Secret-Face
Member since 2011 • 223 Posts
I gave up on steam when they changed the prices to euros and screwed us europeans out of monies. I havent bought off them since.
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#126 Xtasy26
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I would like to thank Steam for not only the AWESOME price that they were selling Max Payne 1 & 2 but for reminding me of these two great game. I didn't quite finish Max Payne 1 & 2 and had sound issues with Max Payne 1, which thanks to Steam forums for Max Payne someone made an app to fix it (another benefit of Steam where they have forums where you could find fixes for pretty much any games).

This game brought back so much memories from when I was a kid. Playing through Max Payne 1, LOVE the gritty style, and the cutscenes with his commentary that is very poetic, it feels like reading a mystery novel mixed with an action movie.

Thank you Steam for reminding me of this great game and selling it an awesome price. Brought back a lot of nostalgia.

Don't you just love Steam? It's sales remind you of the great games that you always wanted to play and never got around to it.

Steam is AWESOME!!

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#127 khanabyss25
Member since 2004 • 279 Posts

i love steam deals, but the program itself, not so much.

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#128 MrSelf-Destruct
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I gave up on steam when they changed the prices to euros and screwed us europeans out of monies. I havent bought off them since.Secret-Face
Yeah, I only heard about this yesterday, and I'd say that's pretty messed up. They completely ignore the exchange rate by keeping the dollar amount and charging in euros. So a $10 game actually costs you guys almost $15. (I know you know, buy I think everyone else should, too.) I'm pretty appalled that they haven't fixed that.
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#129 Another-World
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Yeah, i suppose for the countries where most of the posters on this forum reside, steam is the best gaming servce indeed...and certainly better than xbox live and psn; However not everybody lives in said countries, and indeed for me (and i am a pc gamer) steam is not the best, simply coz i get much, much better deals online on pc games where i live. For example, crysis 2 at launch at my place was ~20 USD, whereas on steam it was....i dunno, but a good deal more.
[QUOTE="Secret-Face"]I gave up on steam when they changed the prices to euros and screwed us europeans out of monies. I havent bought off them since.MrSelf-Destruct
Yeah, I only heard about this yesterday, and I'd say that's pretty messed up. They completely ignore the exchange rate by keeping the dollar amount and charging in euros. So a $10 game actually costs you guys almost $15. (I know you know, buy I think everyone else should, too.) I'm pretty appalled that they haven't fixed that.

WHOA, i just read that, and i must say it is pretty rotten for you guys in Europe. But how did Valve make such a big gaffe in the first place, and is it going unprotested and unchecked for so long??
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#130 skrat_01
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Yeah it's well ahead of general digital distribution services. It also means Valve can experiment with business models and marketing. Which makes even XBL and PSN seem like archaic services in comparison; You're not going to see the TF2 'War' update promotion or the Portal 2 Potato ARG on either. This is a major reason GFWL on the PC is struggling to keep up with other distribution services; failure to adapt. Otherwise others like GamersGate are good, GOG is excellent and alternatives such as Green Man Gaming are quite interesting.
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#131 Hexagon_777
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Steam has gotten so cheap in the past that I simply bought several games for myself, then the same games for my girlfriend, and still managed to pay around the average price of one console game that has been heavily reduced. Brilliant.
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#132 xsubtownerx
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Steam, is a better service by far over the other options. But with that said, it's also the most overrated service I've ever seen.
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#133 wis3boi
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Steam has gotten so cheap in the past that I simply bought several games for myself, then the same games for my girlfriend, and still managed to pay around the average price of one console game that has been heavily reduced. Brilliant.Hexagon_777
^ this is what keeps me coming back to it, not to mention the social and community features, and the ingame overlay, its seamless and easy.
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#134 Xtasy26
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LOL. GTAIV for $4.99 and GTAIV Complete Edition with Episodes from Liberty City for $9.99:

http://store.steampowered.com/

Can Xbox Live and PSN beat this? Didn't think so.

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#135 Karnage108
Member since 2010 • 2595 Posts

i love steam deals, but the program itself, not so much.

khanabyss25
This. Aside from the deals, it's debatable between Steam and XBL which is better.
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#136 MrSelf-Destruct
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LOL. GTAIV for $4.99 and GTAIV Complete Edition with Episodes from Liberty City for $9.99:

http://store.steampowered.com/

Can Xbox Live and PSN beat this? Didn't think so.

Xtasy26
Yes! I've now got the entire GTA collection for less than $20! Woot!!!
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#137 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="khanabyss25"]

i love steam deals, but the program itself, not so much.

Karnage108
This. Aside from the deals, it's debatable between Steam and XBL which is better.

Not really. Steam is free. Win. :P
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#138 padaporra
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I don't see the point in comparing Steam with XBL, they are different services, with different purposes.

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#139 EliteM0nk3y
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I liked Steam, unitl I tried to buy Potato Sack and it wouldn't let me. It's been about an hour and I still can't get eh transaction to go through. (I'm putting all the info in right with the VISA)
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#140 gamer-adam1
Member since 2008 • 4188 Posts

no its not, take away the sales, and no one would care about it

Steamworks is not Steam

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#141 Marka1700
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Steam only has one thing missing if you ask me. It should tell you the download size of a game before you buy it.
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#142 MrSelf-Destruct
Member since 2010 • 13400 Posts

no its not, take away the sales, and no one would care about it

Steamworks is not Steam

gamer-adam1
Um... yes it is. Steamworks is a major part of Steam. How can you not count it?
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#143 MrSelf-Destruct
Member since 2010 • 13400 Posts

I don't see the point in comparing Steam with XBL, they are different services, with different purposes.

padaporra
And that doesn't make sense either... What's these different purposes exactly? You my games, play games online, socialize with other gamers, etc, etc, etc... The only difference is Steam doesn't do Netflix, but all you have to do is open your internet browser and there ya go...
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#144 dontshackzmii
Member since 2009 • 6026 Posts

it is a pretty good online servis . But i do think the prices are over rated. They have great sales but other then that they are on par with everyone els .

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#145 James161324
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Yes it is

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#146 arto1223
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Steam only has one thing missing if you ask me. It should tell you the download size of a game before you buy it.Marka1700

Well, on the game's Steam page, it does provide the game's system requirements... which includes the HDD/SSD size requirement.

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#147 devious742
Member since 2003 • 3924 Posts

no its not, take away the sales, and no one would care about it

Steamworks is not Steam

gamer-adam1

Lets not forget the following features:

Steam Cloud

Valve provides a service called Steam Cloud. For supported games, Steam Cloud stores various amounts of game data, such as keyboard shortcut settings and single-player game saves, on a central server. Any changes to relevant game files are uploaded to the main server, and newer files are automatically downloaded and used when a game is started.



Browser

Steam includes a tabbed Webkit based browser which can be accessed in-game.


Steamplay

SteamPlay, the Mac OS X client will allow players who have already purchased compatible products in the Windows version to re-download the Mac versions at no cost, allowing them to continue to play the game on the other platform


Automatic Driver Support

"Steam represents an evolution for PC and online gaming, and the availability of ATI Catalyst graphics driver updates directly on the Steam platform can help further enhance the PC gaming experience for users of ATI Radeon products," said Ben Bar-Haim, corporate vice president of software for AMD. "AMD now has the opportunity to helpdeliver an even better experience for PC gamers."

Screenshots

Upcoming features:

  • Steam will get video recording "soon"
  • Steam might come to iOS/Android
  • Source Film Maker will be made public "soon"

someone is mad:lol:

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#148 i5750at4Ghz
Member since 2010 • 5839 Posts
Xfire > steam.
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#149 Mystic-G
Member since 2006 • 6462 Posts

^^

You forgot about the upcoming built-in video recorder for Steam.

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#150 savagetwinkie
Member since 2008 • 7981 Posts
steam isn't much of a service, more of a store, i guess with the friends list and cloud is a minimal service