IS PS3 graphically more advanced?-I have facts and links to back this up

Lets solve this once and for all, im not a fanboy, but i can see the facts,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8&search=john%20carmack%20g4

‪http://n4g.com/news/769684/ps3s-power-confined-to-prosperous-exclusives

http://n4g.com/news/805672/lightbox-interactives-josh-sutphin-explains-why-starhawk-is-so-awesome-and-only-possible-on-ps3

http://www.hiphopgamershow.com/2011/04/guerilla-games-beat-the-cryengine-3-on-consoles-sony-exclusives-still-1/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQpMSKP7I

http://gear.ign.com/articles/111/1116182p2.html

http://n4g.com/news/739134/head2head-killzone-3-vs-crysis-2-analysis-lens-of-truth/com

‪Xbox 360 vs. PS3: Round 4 (CPU)‬ - YouTube

See the truth is the PS3 has about 20% more power because of the cell processor being able to do the same stuff that the gpu does. BUT, most multiplat games look better on 360 because the only way to get them up to par to it is to spend a lot of time on it, and to get games that are much better then whats capable on 360, you have to go through blood, sweat, and tears- aka UC3, Last Guardian, game informer also said that kz3 has made a new graphical benchmark. Also I included IGN because they are definitely biased torwards 360 yet even they agree PS3 has more potential.

Also I am not a playstation fanboy, in fact until PS3 i was more a nintendo person. I have a NES ,Genesis , N64 , Gamecube , PS2 , PS3.

In my opinion the best system of all time is the NES

Cool? The sad thing is that this thread will go on for pages.

I don't have to read those link to know they're either opinions of first party devs, or random internet fanboys.

The PS3 isn't 20% stronger then the Xbox 360. It just isn't.

Yes, actually John Carmack, said it was, but if you read the links you would know this;). Also only one is a first party dev

Also I included old links because the PS3 and 360 are consoles, they dont change or get new graphics cards. AND before PC gamers say anything I own a pretty powerful PC and I know how much better PC graphics are,

If it´s more powerfull it´s not doing a good job at all. At this point, the best looking 360 and PS3 games, look exactly the same.

If it´s more powerfull it´s not doing a good job at all. At this point, the best looking 360 and PS3 games, look exactly the same.

PAL360

There is only one game on 360 that is on par with PS3 exclusives and thats Crysis 2 - at the cost of popins, frame tearing and slowdowns while PS3 exclusives work flawlessly all the time. Other than that the differences in graphics between say Uncharted 2 and Gears 2 are quite minor but definitely there. 20% more power on PS3s side sounds like it.

Right, if you watched the youtube video john carmack says the ps3 is definitely better graphically, but the cell is very hard to use so u may never see the potential but, i think the fact that 360 exclusives dont come close to UC2, KZ3, GOD of war, etc... speak pretty loud

Why is it that any thread title that says it has facts inside it,is devoid of facts?

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

If it´s more powerfull it´s not doing a good job at all. At this point, the best looking 360 and PS3 games, look exactly the same.

BlbecekBobecek

There is only one game on 360 that is on par with PS3 exclusives and thats Crysis 2 - at the cost of popins, frame tearing and slowdowns while PS3 exclusives work flawlessly all the time. Other than that the differences in graphics between say Uncharted 2 and Gears 2 are quite minor but definitely there. 20% more power on PS3s side sounds like it.

Also RDR, Just Cause 2, Gears 3 and, going by what we have seen so far, Forza 4 and Rage. At this point, it´s pretty obvious that with talent, both consoles can show equally good looking games.

I don't have to read those link to know they're either opinions of first party devs, or random internet fanboys.

The PS3 isn't 20% stronger then the Xbox 360. It just isn't.

-Snooze-

John Carmack isn't a first party dev, and he isn't a random internet fanboy either :P

Gears 3 and UC3 look exactly the same in terms of graphical fidelity.

TEH POWA OF DA SELL!!!!!

Also I didn't think C2 was very impressive, it looked great far away but up close textures were ugly, and the game was almost unplayable, though it did have nice lighting. In fact pc people hate it---http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1808524

I will prove this with pics

UC3 will have garbage textures too. Not sure what your point is.

people on that forum are even laughing about how a few reviewers thought it was a new leader, and they compared it to quake 3

BTW here is kz3- which gameinformer said was the best graphically---

people on that forum are even laughing about how a few reviewers thought it was a new leader, and they compared it to quake 3

BTW here is kz3- which gameinformer said was the best graphically---

guitarrocker13

And it looks very, very good.

people on that forum are even laughing about how a few reviewers thought it was a new leader, and they compared it to quake 3

BTW here is kz3- which gameinformer said was the best graphically---

guitarrocker13

Yeah, this spanks console version of Crysis 2 pretty hard. Not only game informer thought so - lens of truth did too.

Old, old links there. That Carmack interview was from '06/'07. I've got a time machine too, so went back and got some more recent goodies:

Cell co-creator David Shippy talks PS3/360

But Gamasutra also asked him about the relative power of the two systems -- since he worked so intimately on them, does he have an opinion on which was the more powerful?

"I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends,'" laughs Shippy, after a pause. "Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal, even though they're completely different processing models," he concludes.

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Crytek's Cevat Yerli talks Crysis 2

02:43-2:55..."Our game was to run on PS3/360 the same way, because they're about the same power."

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id's John Carmack talks RAGE on consoles

"The PS3 lags a little bit behind in terms of getting the performance out of it," John Carmack told Edge. "The rasteriser is just a little bit slower - no two ways about that. "

"The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. The CPU is about the same, but the 360 makes it easier to split things off, and that's what a lot of the work has been, splitting it all into jobs on the PS3," he said."

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Valve's Gabe Newell talks PS3

"Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There's nothing there that you're going to apply to anything else. You're not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they've created. I don't think they're going to make money off their box. I don't think it's a good solution."

And here is last guardian --- in game

Also I didn't think C2 was very impressive, it looked great far away but up close textures were ugly, and the game was almost unplayable, though it did have nice lighting. In fact pc people hate it---http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1808524

I will prove this with pics

*pic*

guitarrocker13

It´s possible to find an ugly pic from any game, even Crysis PC.

Crysis 2 on consoles does look fantastic, take a look:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28474619/is-crysis-2-the-best-looking-console-game-or-not---poll

360 is more advanced, Crysis 2 proves it 100% and i dont have to provide links either, it is well known fact

Yes, actually John Carmack, said it was, but if you read the links you would know this;). Also only one is a first party dev

guitarrocker13

Portal 2 looked better on PS3 also John Carmack replied back to your comment saying that the 360 was better in terms of the power they could take time to get out of it, but that the ps3 had more potential if you took a lot of time on it.guitarrocker13

Are you saying that Portal 2 looks better than Crysis 2 or Gears 3?

PS3 does have better graphic capabilitis than 360, it's common knowledge. Try putting MGS4 on 360, here's a hint *it won't work*

Read this and you will realize how overhyped Crysis 2 was--- http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1808524

Bringin' back those golden oldies.

I remember all the denial after Shippy, the chief architect of the Cell CPU said the systems were equal in power. Those were good days. I used to always say, "So, you know more than the guy who created what you're bragging about?":P

Bringin' back those golden oldies.

I remember all the denial after Shippy, the chief architect of the Cell CPU said the systems were equal in power. Those were good days. I used to always say, "So, you know more than the guy who created what you're bragging about?":P

gamecubepad

no read this.

PS3 does have better graphic capabilitis than 360, it's common knowledge. Try putting MGS4 on 360, here's a hint *it won't work*

ShadowMoses900

Try putting a game like Tetris that was designed for the PC and put it on the PS3.........hint it wont work. You could EASILY port MGSIV to the 360.

I don't have to read those link to know they're either opinions of first party devs, or random internet fanboys.

The PS3 isn't 20% stronger then the Xbox 360. It just isn't.

-Snooze-

Carmack is NOT a first party dev, please try again:x

And regardless of the ones that are first party, I think Uncharted 2 speaks for itself. Most gamers agree that nothing on 360 compares to it and Gears 3 is not gonna change that.

Bringin' back those golden oldies.

I remember all the denial after Shippy, the chief architect of the Cell CPU said the systems were equal in power. Those were good days. I used to always say, "So, you know more than the guy who created what you're bragging about?":P

gamecubepad

Overhype is never a good thing! Remember when only PS3 was able to handle Uncharted 2 graphics....or handle 16 cars on track with GT5 graphics? cof cof gears 3 cof forza 4 cof... :P

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I don't have to read those link to know they're either opinions of first party devs, or random internet fanboys.

The PS3 isn't 20% stronger then the Xbox 360. It just isn't.

mztazmz

Carmack is NOT a first party dev, please try again:x

And regardless of the ones that are first party, I think Uncharted 2 speaks for itself. Most gamers agree that nothing on 360 compares to it and Gears 3 is not gonna change that.

Too bad UC2 barely looks better than GEOW2 and GEOW3/UC3 look exactly the same. They both look like garbage.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I don't have to read those link to know they're either opinions of first party devs, or random internet fanboys.

The PS3 isn't 20% stronger then the Xbox 360. It just isn't.

mztazmz

Carmack is NOT a first party dev, please try again:x

And regardless of the ones that are first party, I think Uncharted 2 speaks for itself. Most gamers agree that nothing on 360 compares to it and Gears 3 is not gonna change that.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28474619/is-crysis-2-the-best-looking-console-game-or-not---poll

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28746002/beta-graphics-king-uncharted-3-mp-beta-vs.-gears-of-war-3-mp-beta-56k?page=11

That´s simply not true.

On lens of truth they compared KZ3 and Crysis 2---

Over 2000 voted and like 80% said kz3

Here is the link---http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-killzone-3-vs-crysis-2-analysis/2/

Also 3000 voted

Also I saw Crysis 2 videos and was amazed so I went and rented it and realized that putting a sub-hd game on a 32" hd tv was a bad ideaguitarrocker13

Exactly. Its subHD with popins and framerate issues and still doesnt look as good as Killzone 3. PS3 definitely has a bit of extra horsepower... just a bit though.

All it takes is common sense but some of these people dont understand that, even IGN said PS3 was better, IGN, who usually sides with 360. PS3 came out a year later, of course it has a bit more power. 360 people are just upset they dont have a blu ray, 3d, KZ2, KZ3, R3, R2,R1, MAG, Dust 514, UC1,UC2,UC3, God of war 3, Infamous 1, infamous 2, The last guardian, FF versus XIII, LBP 1, LBP 2, And way more gamesguitarrocker13

IGN said that Crysis 2 is the best game they have seen on consoles. (360 version)

[QUOTE="guitarrocker13"]All it takes is common sense but some of these people dont understand that, even IGN said PS3 was better, IGN, who usually sides with 360. PS3 came out a year later, of course it has a bit more power. 360 people are just upset they dont have a blu ray, 3d, KZ2, KZ3, R3, R2,R1, MAG, Dust 514, UC1,UC2,UC3, God of war 3, Infamous 1, infamous 2, The last guardian, FF versus XIII, LBP 1, LBP 2, And way more gamesFizzman

IGN said that Crysis 2 is the best game they have seen on consoles. (360 version)

Yeah I know. They probably smoked something funny. :)

Overhype is never a good thing! Remember when only PS3 was able to handle Uncharted 2 graphics....or handle 16 cars on track with GT5 graphics? cof cof gears 3 cof forza 4 cof... :P

PAL360

Let's go back even further. "360 could never handle MGS4":shock: