Is this the worst year in gaming so far?

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#51 mikhail
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"Bad years" are a concept unique to console gamers.

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#52  Edited By PapaTrop
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@blue_hazy_basic said:

Notice its the people who game primarily on a PS4 who keep making these threads?

2014 has been a great year for me.

I often wonder if these PS4 fans realize that it's a problem with their system, and not actually something that affects the rest of the gaming industry.

It seems they think that since a Playstation system had a bad year, that means all other systems must have had worse years... You know, since Playstation is teh best.

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#53 B4X
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@Heil68 said:

Not for me, it's been a great year.

Why do people act as if Sunset Overdrive never happened?

And hell no this isn't the worst year ever in gaming. Actually for year 2 of consoles it has been damn good.

Then you take PC into account.

This thread sucks.

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#54 Heil68
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@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

Not for me, it's been a great year.

Why do people act as if Sunset Overdrive never happened?

And hell no this isn't the worst year ever in gaming. Actually for year 2 of consoles it has been damn good.

Then you take PC into account.

This thread sucks.

We agree on something? :o

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#55 B4X
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@Heil68:

I'm sure we would agree on a lot of stuff. :p

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#56 The_Last_Ride
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@Mozelleple112: you left one year out, and that's 2012, there's a reason that year was worse

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#57 nutcrackr
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Not a great year, but once again saved at the 11th hour thanks to mordor, wagon age, talos principle. Couple of other decent games, I guess.

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@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

Not for me, it's been a great year.

Why do people act as if Sunset Overdrive never happened?

And hell no this isn't the worst year ever in gaming. Actually for year 2 of consoles it has been damn good.

Then you take PC into account.

This thread sucks.

Not everybody cares about or likes Sunset Overdrive.

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#59 lostrib
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@The_Last_Ride: read the OP

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#60 Another-World
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Sunset Overdrive was shite. Year wasn't that bad at all though. And in 2012 you forgot about Far Cry 3, which was pretty awesome.

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#61  Edited By SolidTy
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Damn. I lost my post to glitchspot.

It was really articulate with examples (pros and cons) but I don't want to type it again.

tl;dr:

2014 sucked for me and I own all the machines. There was some good games, yes, but not enough to save the year. It's all subjective based on what you play though. I don't like racers and I like fighters.Some people like racers or RTS. Others like MMOs and Mobas. It all depends. A lot of HD ports of games I played yesteryear mixed with some games I liked (Bayonetta 2, Super Smash Bros, Shovel, Infamous 3, etc) but none of these games corrected the disappointment of the year for me.

A lot of buggy 2014 released games (two buggy Assassin's Creed games released in one year, Halo Master Chief Collection, Sonic Boom, Alien, Drive Club, and many more). Many gaming websites and even Gamespot.com chose multiplats for the GOTYs on many of these machines, that's certainly not good imo.

It doesn't help that it's still 2014 so some people are going to defend the year because they are still immersed with 2014 titles they paid money for...they haven't traded them in yet or realized what the year was just yet. They may not have actually played that many games this year or maybe they did and enjoyed the games. Experience also plays a role too. Older gamers may have more expectations that teenage/20 somethings. There has never been a year in SW where it was declared a great gaming year and everyone agreed. Same with poor years. There will always be holdouts on what is considered a poor and good gaming year. In a few years, there will be a far more obvious answer. Years after the bad year or good year? A few holdouts convert.

I remember debates in SW about 1998, 2001, 2004, 2005, 2007 being great years. I'm no stranger to these discussions.

All gaming years are technically good in the sense that some good games release in those years, but it's by comparison that we rank the year and that's where 2014 falls short for the majority of users that don't dig the year. This generation is so new and people are excited with their new machines, it's going to take awhile for all that excited energy to wear off and be more objective...or they really loved the year.

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#62  Edited By B4X
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@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

Not for me, it's been a great year.

Why do people act as if Sunset Overdrive never happened?

And hell no this isn't the worst year ever in gaming. Actually for year 2 of consoles it has been damn good.

Then you take PC into account.

This thread sucks.

Not everybody cares about or likes Sunset Overdrive.

That's true... That doesn't mean it didn't happen. A lot of people haven't played it either?

Dude doesn't even mention one of the best racers to release in years in FH2.

Just because you dismiss something. Does not mean it didn't happen. That's what I call selective memory. You don't make a list of the worst years in gaming ever, then omit 2 of the best games to come out this year.

This thread sucks.

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#63 GreySeal9
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@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

Not for me, it's been a great year.

Why do people act as if Sunset Overdrive never happened?

And hell no this isn't the worst year ever in gaming. Actually for year 2 of consoles it has been damn good.

Then you take PC into account.

This thread sucks.

Not everybody cares about or likes Sunset Overdrive.

That's true... That doesn't mean it didn't happen. A lot of people haven't played it either?

Dude doesn't even mention one of the best racers to release in years in FH2.

Just because you dismiss something. Does not mean it didn't happen. That's what I call selective memory. You don't make a list of the worst years in gaming ever, then omit 2 of the best games to come out this year.

This thread sucks.

He didn't acknowledge what is widely considered to be the absolute best game of the year and possibly the best action game ever yet you don't hear me crying about it.

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#64  Edited By B4X
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@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

Not for me, it's been a great year.

Why do people act as if Sunset Overdrive never happened?

And hell no this isn't the worst year ever in gaming. Actually for year 2 of consoles it has been damn good.

Then you take PC into account.

This thread sucks.

Not everybody cares about or likes Sunset Overdrive.

That's true... That doesn't mean it didn't happen. A lot of people haven't played it either?

Dude doesn't even mention one of the best racers to release in years in FH2.

Just because you dismiss something. Does not mean it didn't happen. That's what I call selective memory. You don't make a list of the worst years in gaming ever, then omit 2 of the best games to come out this year.

This thread sucks.

He didn't acknowledge what is widely considered to be the absolute best game of the year and possibly the best action game ever yet you don't hear me crying about it.

See what I mean?

This thread sucks. There is no objective thought that went into it. Am I right or Wrong?

Then you have to consider... I have been playing games since the Atari 2600... Then this thread really hits the shitter.

I'm not trying to debate you on this. There is no truth to this thread.

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#65 GreySeal9
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@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

Not for me, it's been a great year.

Why do people act as if Sunset Overdrive never happened?

And hell no this isn't the worst year ever in gaming. Actually for year 2 of consoles it has been damn good.

Then you take PC into account.

This thread sucks.

Not everybody cares about or likes Sunset Overdrive.

That's true... That doesn't mean it didn't happen. A lot of people haven't played it either?

Dude doesn't even mention one of the best racers to release in years in FH2.

Just because you dismiss something. Does not mean it didn't happen. That's what I call selective memory. You don't make a list of the worst years in gaming ever, then omit 2 of the best games to come out this year.

This thread sucks.

He didn't acknowledge what is widely considered to be the absolute best game of the year and possibly the best action game ever yet you don't hear me crying about it.

See what I mean?

This thread sucks. There is no objective thought that went into it. Am I right or Wrong.

Then you have to consider... I have been playing games since the Atari 2600... Then this thread really hits the shitter.

Nobody cares. Your gaming history is not even remotely relevant.

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#66 B4X
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@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

Not for me, it's been a great year.

Why do people act as if Sunset Overdrive never happened?

And hell no this isn't the worst year ever in gaming. Actually for year 2 of consoles it has been damn good.

Then you take PC into account.

This thread sucks.

Not everybody cares about or likes Sunset Overdrive.

That's true... That doesn't mean it didn't happen. A lot of people haven't played it either?

Dude doesn't even mention one of the best racers to release in years in FH2.

Just because you dismiss something. Does not mean it didn't happen. That's what I call selective memory. You don't make a list of the worst years in gaming ever, then omit 2 of the best games to come out this year.

This thread sucks.

He didn't acknowledge what is widely considered to be the absolute best game of the year and possibly the best action game ever yet you don't hear me crying about it.

See what I mean?

This thread sucks. There is no objective thought that went into it. Am I right or Wrong.

Then you have to consider... I have been playing games since the Atari 2600... Then this thread really hits the shitter.

Nobody cares. Your gaming history is not even remotely relevant.

No not at all.

You know what's not relative. You defending this thread.

Carry on.

This thread sucks. Now so do you. :p

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#67 GreySeal9
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@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

Not for me, it's been a great year.

Why do people act as if Sunset Overdrive never happened?

And hell no this isn't the worst year ever in gaming. Actually for year 2 of consoles it has been damn good.

Then you take PC into account.

This thread sucks.

Not everybody cares about or likes Sunset Overdrive.

That's true... That doesn't mean it didn't happen. A lot of people haven't played it either?

Dude doesn't even mention one of the best racers to release in years in FH2.

Just because you dismiss something. Does not mean it didn't happen. That's what I call selective memory. You don't make a list of the worst years in gaming ever, then omit 2 of the best games to come out this year.

This thread sucks.

He didn't acknowledge what is widely considered to be the absolute best game of the year and possibly the best action game ever yet you don't hear me crying about it.

See what I mean?

This thread sucks. There is no objective thought that went into it. Am I right or Wrong.

Then you have to consider... I have been playing games since the Atari 2600... Then this thread really hits the shitter.

Nobody cares. Your gaming history is not even remotely relevant.

No not at all.

You know what's not relative. You defending this thread.

Carry on.

This thread sucks. Now so do you. :p

Not crying about the thread/=/defending it.

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#68  Edited By B4X
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@GreySeal9:

What would you call what you're doing then?

You're either a douche that want's to bash Sunset overdrive. Or you think this wonderfully objective thread is of amazing quality?

The question left here is have you played Sunset Overdrive to support your bias... or are you just an opinionated douche on the internet?

I do love dismissing things I'm not interested in too, it's the douche way. I mean **** em' right. I don't like em' or haven't played them.

They don't count. Who cares what anyone else says. I'm a douche. That's the way I roll.

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#69 GreySeal9
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@b4x said:

@GreySeal9:

What would you call what you're doing then?

You're either a douche that want's to bash Sunset overdrive. Or you think this wonderfully objective thread is amazing quality?

The question left here is have you played Sunset Overdrive to support your bias... or are you just an opinionated douche on the internet?

I do love dismissing things I'm not interested in too, it's the douche way. I mean **** em' right. I don't like em' or haven't played them.

They don't count. Who cares what anyone else says. I'm a douche. That's the way I roll.

Don't want an Xbox One. Don't want a boring looking Insomniac game. Still, I never said anything bad about Sunset Overdrive. I simply said that not everybody has to care about it or acknowledge it. Bayonetta 2 is one of the greatest games ever. That does not mean everybody has to acknowledge that either.

The fact of the matter is you're crying about this thread simply because the TC didn't include your precious Xbawks exclusives. Such is the way of the schill.

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#70  Edited By B4X
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@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9:

What would you call what you're doing then?

You're either a douche that want's to bash Sunset overdrive. Or you think this wonderfully objective thread is amazing quality?

The question left here is have you played Sunset Overdrive to support your bias... or are you just an opinionated douche on the internet?

I do love dismissing things I'm not interested in too, it's the douche way. I mean **** em' right. I don't like em' or haven't played them.

They don't count. Who cares what anyone else says. I'm a douche. That's the way I roll.

Don't want an Xbox One. Don't want a boring looking Insomniac game. Still, I never said anything bad about Sunset Overdrive. I simply said that not everybody has to care about it or acknowledge it. Bayonetta 2 is one of the greatest games ever. That does not mean everybody has to acknowledge that either.

The fact of the matter is you're crying about this thread simply because the TC didn't include your precious Xbawks exclusives. Such is the way of the schill.

The definition of a shill... is now get this shit. "Someone who defends mediocrity. "This Thread" Dismisses facts to support ones claims. With no experience on the subject at hand. "That would be you in this case. Don't want an Xbox One. Xbawks"

This isn't tread crying guy. This is just facts. You do not dismiss anything worth mentioning to make such a drastic claim. No matter what platform, planet or universe you're in.

"Worst year in gaming ever?" Now there's something to defend.

Carry on Warrior.

Shit thread.

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#71  Edited By GreySeal9
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@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9:

What would you call what you're doing then?

You're either a douche that want's to bash Sunset overdrive. Or you think this wonderfully objective thread is amazing quality?

The question left here is have you played Sunset Overdrive to support your bias... or are you just an opinionated douche on the internet?

I do love dismissing things I'm not interested in too, it's the douche way. I mean **** em' right. I don't like em' or haven't played them.

They don't count. Who cares what anyone else says. I'm a douche. That's the way I roll.

Don't want an Xbox One. Don't want a boring looking Insomniac game. Still, I never said anything bad about Sunset Overdrive. I simply said that not everybody has to care about it or acknowledge it. Bayonetta 2 is one of the greatest games ever. That does not mean everybody has to acknowledge that either.

The fact of the matter is you're crying about this thread simply because the TC didn't include your precious Xbawks exclusives. Such is the way of the schill.

The definition of a shill... is now get this shit. "Someone who defends mediocrity. "This Thread" Dismisses facts to support ones claims. With no experience on the subject at hand. "That would be you in this case. Don't want an Xbox One. Xbawks"

Now you're crying about me not being interested in owning an Xbox One. WTF?

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#72  Edited By madsnakehhh
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I got Super Smash, Stick of Truth, Mario Kart, Walking Dead Season 2 and Godyonetta 2...it was a damn good year.

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#73 Floppy_Jim
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Dark Souls 2 was great...being a 7th gen peasant for much of the year was an eye opener though. As a recent PS4 owner I'm backlogged as **** and 2015 shall only improve.

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#74 The_Last_Ride
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@lostrib said:

@The_Last_Ride: read the OP

it's still worse than this year

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#77 zassimick  Moderator
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I've purchased less games this year than other years by a large margin, though I'll be getting a chunk of the ones I've missed this Christmas.

What I've played though has made it a memorable year. Good enough to say it's not the worst year? I'm not sure. I haven't really kept track of how much I enjoy each year as its happening; I've usually been able to find something to play which keeps it exciting.

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#80  Edited By lundy86_4
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Overall, I enjoyed it. By no means the best, but pretty solid.

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#81  Edited By B4X
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@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

This much anger because I don't care about Xbox One and Sunset Overdrive? I think you might want to talk to a mental health professional if your Xbox fanboyism has gotten so bad that you get bothered by people on the internet not wanting your favorite video game console. I mean, fanboyism is not the worst thing in the world, but yours is getting a bit out of control.

Also, I didn't say that people are not interested in Sunset Overdrive. I said not everybody is. Nobody is obligated to acknowledge it.

So you make a list of "worst gaming year so far".... then omit games. I'm sorry I was so wrong there. I mean where was my logic in this thread.

I must be mental.

A guy on the internet calling me a fanboy because I actually played a games.

Only on the internet can you find such gems. That's sig worthy my man. Thank you.

Pretty clear that I didn't call you a fanboy because you played a game. I called you a fanboy because you are bothered that I don't want an Xbox One. News flash: Xbox doesn't appeal to everybody.

I played the games in question... You haven't. Who's the fanboy in this scenario?

See here's the thing... a GAMER never says he has no interest in games. No matter the platform.

Now a person that passes judgment on something without experience. Is _____________?

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#82  Edited By clyde46
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2014 sucked. The PS4 has nothing on it, the X1 only has one game. AAA games suck. 2014 was a bust.

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#83  Edited By GreySeal9
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@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

This much anger because I don't care about Xbox One and Sunset Overdrive? I think you might want to talk to a mental health professional if your Xbox fanboyism has gotten so bad that you get bothered by people on the internet not wanting your favorite video game console. I mean, fanboyism is not the worst thing in the world, but yours is getting a bit out of control.

Also, I didn't say that people are not interested in Sunset Overdrive. I said not everybody is. Nobody is obligated to acknowledge it.

So you make a list of "worst gaming year so far".... then omit games. I'm sorry I was so wrong there. I mean where was my logic in this thread.

I must be mental.

A guy on the internet calling me a fanboy because I actually played a games.

Only on the internet can you find such gems. That's sig worthy my man. Thank you.

Pretty clear that I didn't call you a fanboy because you played a game. I called you a fanboy because you are bothered that I don't want an Xbox One. News flash: Xbox doesn't appeal to everybody.

I played the games in question... You haven't. Who's the fanboy in this scenario?

See here's the thing... a GAMER never says he has no interest in games. No matter the platform.

Now a person that passes judgment on something without experience. Is _____________?

Who said they didn't have interest in games? I have interest in many games. Just not Xbox One games. That I don't have interest in Xbox One games shouldn't bother you since everybody has different tastes, but you're a loon, so it does bother you.

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#84  Edited By B4X
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@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

So you make a list of "worst gaming year so far".... then omit games. I'm sorry I was so wrong there. I mean where was my logic in this thread.

I must be mental.

A guy on the internet calling me a fanboy because I actually played a games.

Only on the internet can you find such gems. That's sig worthy my man. Thank you.

Pretty clear that I didn't call you a fanboy because you played a game. I called you a fanboy because you are bothered that I don't want an Xbox One. News flash: Xbox doesn't appeal to everybody.

I played the games in question... You haven't. Who's the fanboy in this scenario?

See here's the thing... a GAMER never says he has no interest in games. No matter the platform.

Now a person that passes judgment on something without experience. Is _____________?

Who said they didn't have interest in games? I have interest in many games. Just not Xbox One games. That I don't have interest in Xbox One games shouldn't bother you, but you're a loon, so it does.

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#85 GreySeal9
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@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@b4x said:

So you make a list of "worst gaming year so far".... then omit games. I'm sorry I was so wrong there. I mean where was my logic in this thread.

I must be mental.

A guy on the internet calling me a fanboy because I actually played a games.

Only on the internet can you find such gems. That's sig worthy my man. Thank you.

Pretty clear that I didn't call you a fanboy because you played a game. I called you a fanboy because you are bothered that I don't want an Xbox One. News flash: Xbox doesn't appeal to everybody.

I played the games in question... You haven't. Who's the fanboy in this scenario?

See here's the thing... a GAMER never says he has no interest in games. No matter the platform.

Now a person that passes judgment on something without experience. Is _____________?

Who said they didn't have interest in games? I have interest in many games. Just not Xbox One games. That I don't have interest in Xbox One games shouldn't bother you, but you're a loon, so it does.

If me not wanting to purchase an Xbox One on account of not being interested in its games really bothers you so much, feel free to buy me one. I'll take it for free.

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#87 PsychoLemons
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A year of disappointments.

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#88 DocSanchez
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Had a busier last few months than summer that's for sure. I've actually accrued a bit of a back log. I don't measure it in best or worst year, there is always enough for me.

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#89 lostrib
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...aaaand b4x had another meltdown

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#90 finalfantasy94
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I guess if you were playing the GS flop game then yea,but if you dont pay attention to that stuff then no it wasint.

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#91 DocSanchez
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@finalfantasy94: Indeed. Good answer.

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#92 B4X
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@lostrib said:

...aaaand b4x had another meltdown

Logic = Meltdown

Feel free to omit games from your list too. Make a thread with your list. I'll be good.

I'll be quiet I promise. :p

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#93 lostrib
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@b4x: what list?

Settle down crazy pants before you get yourself in trouble yet again

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#94  Edited By B4X
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@lostrib said:

@b4x: what list?

Settle down crazy pants before you get yourself in trouble yet again

Make a list like this describing just how bad 2014 was for gaming. Make sure you state worst year in gaming ever. Then omit several games. You haven't played.

I won't even come into your thread. I promise. :p

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#95 lostrib
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@b4x said:

@lostrib said:

@b4x: what list?

Settle down crazy pants before you get yourself in trouble yet again

Make a list like this describing just how bad 2014 was for gaming. Make sure you state worst year in gaming ever. Then omit several games.

I won't even come into your thread. I promise. :p

why would i do that?

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#96 B4X
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@lostrib said:

@b4x said:

@lostrib said:

@b4x: what list?

Settle down crazy pants before you get yourself in trouble yet again

Make a list like this describing just how bad 2014 was for gaming. Make sure you state worst year in gaming ever. Then omit several games.

I won't even come into your thread. I promise. :p

why would i do that?

Why not. This guy did. Seems like the smart thing to do nowadays. Then have some jackass come in and defend the list by saying a game on it that should be there... shouldn't. Basically due to interest and platform.

I won't bother you I promise. :p

You know why you wouldn't make that thread. The same reason I wouldn't.

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@b4x said:

@lostrib said:

...aaaand b4x had another meltdown

Logic = Meltdown

Feel free to omit games from your list too. Make a thread with your list. I'll be good.

I'll be quiet I promise. :p

You can stop derailing the thread, bro.

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Worst year in gaming I can remember. So unexciting for consoles.

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#99 lostrib
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@b4x said:

@lostrib said:

@b4x said:

Make a list like this describing just how bad 2014 was for gaming. Make sure you state worst year in gaming ever. Then omit several games.

I won't even come into your thread. I promise. :p

why would i do that?

Why not. This guy did. Seems like the smart thing to do nowadays. Then have some jackass come in and defend the list by saying a game on it that should be there... shouldn't. Basically due to interest and platform.

I won't bother you I promise. :p

You know why you wouldn't make that thread. The same reason I wouldn't.

Because it would be a duplicate thread and that would be against the forum rules?

No more derailing

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#100  Edited By B4X
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@darkspineslayer said:

@b4x said:

@lostrib said:

...aaaand b4x had another meltdown

Logic = Meltdown

Feel free to omit games from your list too. Make a thread with your list. I'll be good.

I'll be quiet I promise. :p

You can stop derailing the thread, bro.

The OP derailed the thread. How am I not on topic? Explain please.. I need to hear this.