Is this the year the tables are turned on lemmings?

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now.  I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now.  I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

cheezisgoooood

[QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now.  I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

Rashpal

Actually I see few Blu-Ray disks, most of the movies section in my Target are DVDs.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now.  I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

CJL13

Actually I see few Blu-Ray disks, most of the movies section in my Target are DVDs.

[QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now.  I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

Rashpal

Overwhelmed?  I'm sorry but I've been in plenty of electronics stores in the past two weeks alone and I barely even notice the blu-ray section in comparison to the 40 or so shelves of DVD's surrounding it.  Blu-Ray and HD-DVD both have a LOT of catching up to do, and honestly, not only do I know nobody who cares, I also don't know very many people who even knows what Blu-Ray is.

[QUOTE="CJL13"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now.  I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

Rashpal

Actually I see few Blu-Ray disks, most of the movies section in my Target are DVDs.

But you're saying today if I were to go into a Target I would be overwhelmed by the push towards HD. So why am I overwhelmed by DVD disks in the movies section?

Doubt it. XBOX 360 can release an add-on for any type of drive they want.AfterShafter

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"]Doubt it. XBOX 360 can release an add-on for any type of drive they want.Rashpal

You don't HAVE to buy them all.

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"]Doubt it. XBOX 360 can release an add-on for any type of drive they want.Rashpal

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now.  I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

cheezisgoooood

Overwhelmed?  I'm sorry but I've been in plenty of electronics stores in the past two weeks alone and I barely even notice the blu-ray section in comparison to the 40 or so shelves of DVD's surrounding it.  Blu-Ray and HD-DVD both have a LOT of catching up to do, and honestly, not only do I know nobody who cares, I also don't know very many people who even knows what Blu-Ray is.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="CJL13"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now.  I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

CJL13

Actually I see few Blu-Ray disks, most of the movies section in my Target are DVDs.

But you're saying today if I were to go into a Target I would be overwhelmed by the push towards HD. So why am I overwhelmed by DVD disks in the movies section?

[QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now.  I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

Rashpal

Overwhelmed?  I'm sorry but I've been in plenty of electronics stores in the past two weeks alone and I barely even notice the blu-ray section in comparison to the 40 or so shelves of DVD's surrounding it.  Blu-Ray and HD-DVD both have a LOT of catching up to do, and honestly, not only do I know nobody who cares, I also don't know very many people who even knows what Blu-Ray is.

Studios supported UMD at one point too.  Of course, that failed even without any solid competition, mainly because consumers just didn't want it.  Studios are always trying to find out what the movie watchers want from their DVD viewing.  It all boils down to what customers want, and what customers want probably isn't having to buy a new, expensive DVD player to play Talladegha Nights and Spiderman 2 with a little bit more clarity and few bonus features, for more money.  I spend a lot of money on DVD's each year and so far there just isn't anything that Blu-Ray has to offer that's gonna appeal to the market right now.  Nobody knows the difference because not enough people own HDTV's.  When the majority of people in the market do own HDTV's, that'll be the time to start focusing on Blu-Ray.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"]Doubt it. XBOX 360 can release an add-on for any type of drive they want.AfterShafter

Um, you're kind of ignoring the point there.Rashpal

[QUOTE="CJL13"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now. I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

Rashpal

Actually I see few Blu-Ray disks, most of the movies section in my Target are DVDs.

[QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now. I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

Rashpal

Overwhelmed? I'm sorry but I've been in plenty of electronics stores in the past two weeks alone and I barely even notice the blu-ray section in comparison to the 40 or so shelves of DVD's surrounding it. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD both have a LOT of catching up to do, and honestly, not only do I know nobody who cares, I also don't know very many people who even knows what Blu-Ray is.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"]Doubt it. XBOX 360 can release an add-on for any type of drive they want.CJL13

You don't HAVE to buy them all.

[QUOTE="CJL13"]

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"]Doubt it. XBOX 360 can release an add-on for any type of drive they want.Rashpal

You don't HAVE to buy them all.

[QUOTE="CJL13"]

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"]Doubt it. XBOX 360 can release an add-on for any type of drive they want.Rashpal

You don't HAVE to buy them all.

without a standard dedicated HD format 360's case as a media hub is weaker than the competition'sRashpal

[QUOTE="Rashpal"]without a standard dedicated HD format 360's case as a media hub is weaker than the competition'sheretrix

I don't see how the format war of hd-dvd v. Blu-ray can determine which "video game" system will win. That may decide who has the best movie player, but the video game console is decided by games. I've still yet to see a good argument on why blu-ray is needed. Don't give me the space argument either.dhjohns

I don't see how the format war of hd-dvd v. Blu-ray can determine which "video game" system will win. That may decide who has the best movie player, but the video game console is decided by games. I've still yet to see a good argument on why blu-ray is needed. Don't give me the space argument either.dhjohns

It's about space, buddy. The ceiling for content on the 360's disks will be hit sooner than you think, if the games are the best quality. You can't compress information indefinetly. 

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]I don't see how the format war of hd-dvd v. Blu-ray can determine which "video game" system will win. That may decide who has the best movie player, but the video game console is decided by games. I've still yet to see a good argument on why blu-ray is needed. Don't give me the space argument either.weffer

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now.  I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

cheezisgoooood

Overwhelmed?  I'm sorry but I've been in plenty of electronics stores in the past two weeks alone and I barely even notice the blu-ray section in comparison to the 40 or so shelves of DVD's surrounding it.  Blu-Ray and HD-DVD both have a LOT of catching up to do, and honestly, not only do I know nobody who cares, I also don't know very many people who even knows what Blu-Ray is.

Studios supported UMD at one point too.  Of course, that failed even without any solid competition, mainly because consumers just didn't want it.  Studios are always trying to find out what the movie watchers want from their DVD viewing.  It all boils down to what customers want, and what customers want probably isn't having to buy a new, expensive DVD player to play Talladegha Nights and Spiderman 2 with a little bit more clarity and few bonus features, for more money.  I spend a lot of money on DVD's each year and so far there just isn't anything that Blu-Ray has to offer that's gonna appeal to the market right now.  Nobody knows the difference because not enough people own HDTV's.  When the majority of people in the market do own HDTV's, that'll be the time to start focusing on Blu-Ray.

I saw a commercial for the movie "The Prestige" on DVD...at the end it said "available for DVD and Blu-Ray Disc.  Not one mention of HD-DVD.  Just one example, but I think even though Sony has had many failed formats that Blu-Ray will end up murdering HD-DVD in the long-term. 

I don't see how the format war of hd-dvd v. Blu-ray can determine which "video game" system will win. That may decide who has the best movie player, but the video game console is decided by games. I've still yet to see a good argument on why blu-ray is needed. Don't give me the space argument either.dhjohns

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]I don't see how the format war of hd-dvd v. Blu-ray can determine which "video game" system will win. That may decide who has the best movie player, but the video game console is decided by games. I've still yet to see a good argument on why blu-ray is needed. Don't give me the space argument either.Mordred19

It's about space, buddy. The ceiling for content on the 360's disks will be hit sooner than you think, if the games are the best quality. You can't compress information indefinetly.

I believe if we are talking in sales, the 360 will hold on to its ground for this year. Perhaps next year may be its final year at the top of the food chain, but I don't see it slipping for now. The reason is that it will not just stop selling altogether, and that the PS3 - if current sales don't pick up some steam soon - will fail to catch up until the 360 slows. But if we go by the PS2s sales pitch at Christmas 2001 due to releases of key franchises like Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid and Devil May Cry, then the PS3 will easily clamber past in '08 and '09. In other words, when the wait for the games is over, the console will take off.-Spock-

Hey, way to disguise a format thread. This is for video games, there are sites like hi def digest and avs forums for this. jdknight21

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="dhjohns"]I don't see how the format war of hd-dvd v. Blu-ray can determine which "video game" system will win. That may decide who has the best movie player, but the video game console is decided by games. I've still yet to see a good argument on why blu-ray is needed. Don't give me the space argument either.dhjohns

It's about space, buddy. The ceiling for content on the 360's disks will be hit sooner than you think, if the games are the best quality. You can't compress information indefinetly.

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="CJL13"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now. I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

mjarantilla

Actually I see few Blu-Ray disks, most of the movies section in my Target are DVDs.

First of all, that's total BS. I have DIRECT access to 1.7 terabytes of media storage from my PC. That's music, pictures and video...That's not even counting the HD downloads off of XBL..The PS3 has no network connection to speak of, how can it be better as a multimedia hub? Just because the PS3 has a larger HD on the unit, and built in Blu-ray, that in no way is ALL media. My direct access to my PC completely kills the meager 60 gig you get with the PS3.
heretrix

My last thread on this was locked so let me try again with greater detail. Last year a substanial amount of lemmings on this site were backing HD-DVD to thrash Blu-ray. If Blu-ray wins won't that by definition be considered a flop? After all it would vindicate Sony's decide to include the format as standard in PS3 (I know it can be argued that conversely it also vindicates Microsoft's decision to not include HD-DVD as standard in 360, but lets get really here this gen is about the all in one set top box and without a standard dedicated HD format 360's case as a media hub is weaker than the competition's). With Blu-ray in the ascendency and HDTV penetration also picking up 360's appeal as a digital hub for the consumers entertainment needs will lessen. As Phil Harrison said recently, with the launch period fully out the way Sony's attention will shift to software, so the games will come. Couple that with the worldwide appeal of the Playstation brand, you have to ask: is this the period that will make or break Microsoft challenge to Sony's dominance. Will this be the year in which the cows' turn the tables on the Lemmings? Blu-ray, I suspect is the beginning of much ownage to come.Rashpal

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]without a standard dedicated HD format 360's case as a media hub is weaker than the competition'smjarantilla

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="cheezisgoooood"]

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now. I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

dhjohns

Overwhelmed? I'm sorry but I've been in plenty of electronics stores in the past two weeks alone and I barely even notice the blu-ray section in comparison to the 40 or so shelves of DVD's surrounding it. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD both have a LOT of catching up to do, and honestly, not only do I know nobody who cares, I also don't know very many people who even knows what Blu-Ray is.

Link? And more to the point how is that even the same. DVD was a move to a new movie format. BD is a move to a new era in visual entertainment at home. The parallels aren't even that same.Rashpal

Blu-Ray won't have a chance to take off until at LEAST a couple of years from now. I still don't know anybody who even gives a damn about the format.

I say this is the year the tables are turned in favor of the sheep.

cheezisgoooood