It is so ****** unfair with the xbox 360 and PS3.

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

I can only imagine how much more fun SMG would be in HD.

I don't know how many Wii games you've seen, but it's quite obvious that developers don't know, or care, about its potential.

And if you didn't notice, a good majority of the Wii's userbase doesn't give a **** about any reveiwer's opinion. I envy them, really.

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

You are one funny guy.

Um compared to the system each critic expects more.

Critics bashed Fire Emblem for looking way too dated.

Praised games like Mario Galaxy for really looking good for a wii game.

SOme were 50/50 with Metroid Prime 3. SOme felt it looked great, the others felt it looked to much like Metroid PRime 2.

Brawl was also praised for looking good.

The best games on the wii usually have good graphics. Not 360/PS3 quality, but good graphics.

360 and PS3 are held to a higher standards in graphics, but honestly games like Halo 3 and Orange Box werent visual masterpieces and both were excellent games that didnt get bashed to hard.jg4xchamp

And looking identical on both wii and GC why did both versions of TP got the same score in graphics then??:|

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

The_Dan_K

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

I actually have an HDTV and I do run it at said resolution, and it looks great to me. Brawl looks even better.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

The_Dan_K

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

Done it. Still looks fantastic. You should try it some time.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

Musa_007

I can only imagine how much more fun SMG would be in HD.

Super Mario Galaxy looks fantastic. And it's pathetic that you think that it would be more fun to play if it ran at a higher resolution.

The Wii is an underpowered console, but it delivers more than what the other consoles tout as a "next-generation" experience.

[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

I actually have an HDTV and I do run it at said resolution, and it looks great to me. Brawl looks even better.

I meant native 720p. i can take a 10x10 pixel image and put it on my HDTV in 720p, image is still 10x10.

My point is that Wii can't handle having to produce 720p NATIVE images.

And if you think those games look good comapred to actual HD titles, you are missing something. Next you'll tell me there's no difference in DVD to blu-ray :roll:

[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

Michael85

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

Done it. Still looks fantastic. You should try it some time.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Um compared to the system each critic expects more.

Critics bashed Fire Emblem for looking way too dated.

Praised games like Mario Galaxy for really looking good for a wii game.

SOme were 50/50 with Metroid Prime 3. SOme felt it looked great, the others felt it looked to much like Metroid PRime 2.

Brawl was also praised for looking good.

The best games on the wii usually have good graphics. Not 360/PS3 quality, but good graphics.

360 and PS3 are held to a higher standards in graphics, but honestly games like Halo 3 and Orange Box werent visual masterpieces and both were excellent games that didnt get bashed to hard.Musa_007

And looking identical on both wii and GC why did both versions got the same score in graphics then??:|

He said some reveiewers thought it looked too much like Metroid Prime 2, not all. GameSpot felt it looked great and thus gave it a good score in graphics.

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Musa_007

If you're so in love with graphics and physics then stay the hell away from the 360 and the PS3 and go to the PC. The Wii delivers a different experience while the other two try to imitate the PC as best as possible yet fall quite short. If you really love graphics and physics then you have no excuse not to go to the PC.

If you, however, choose to stick with the PS3 and especially the 360, then please stop your ignorant ramblings and just play your games, k? Not that hard.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

The_Dan_K

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

I actually have an HDTV and I do run it at said resolution, and it looks great to me. Brawl looks even better.

I meant native 720p. i can take a 10x10 pixel image and put it on my HDTV in 720p, image is still 10x10.

My point is that Wii can't handle having to produce 720p NATIVE images.

And if you think those games look good comapred to actual HD titles, you are missing something. Next you'll tell me there's no difference in DVD to blu-ray :roll:

[QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

I can only imagine how much more fun SMG would be in HD.

Super Mario Galaxy looks fantastic. And it's pathetic that you think that it would be more fun to play if it ran at a higher resolution.

The Wii is an underpowered console, but it delivers more than what the other consoles tout as a "next-generation" experience.

OMG :lol: What a fanboy. Ive played Mario galaxy, the graphics are alright at best. The only thing the Wii delivers is gameplay, everything else is given to 360 + PS3. Even with Wii out, the graphics arnt even on paar with Xbox 1. Hell, it was shameful enough that God OF war PSP could compete with some of the games in terms of graphics compared to Wii.

You can say all you want but SMG looks quite terrible.I for one am annoyed with the low res textures and god awful horrible jaggies.In this day and age there really is no excuse for a such an underpowered console.

I can only imagine how much more fun SMG would be in HD.

Musa_007

Last time I checked a game being HD or not doesn't really affect how fun a game is because, at least to myself, a game being fun relies on gameplay and not just looking good. What people need to realize is that gaming goes beyond just having a great looking game, but the gameplay needs to be just as solid and entertaining. Just because you have a beautiful game in HD doesn't mean its a fun game, it just means that it looks good and nothing more. Super Mario Galaxy is a great game for many reasons beyond the visual aspect of the game, and no matter how caught up some of you may be with graphics and being worried about "OMG that looks all jagged/blurry/pixelated/whateverthehellyoucanfindwrongwithsomething!!" doesn't change what makes a game fun.

Sure graphics count for something, but its not everything, and I'll take amazing gameplay, a great story, awesome sound quality, and many other aspects that make a good game if I have to deal with some toned down graphics. Does this mean I don't wish the Wii was more powerful? Of course not, all the time I think about how nice it would be to have a Wii on par with the 360 and PS3 but for what the Wii can put out its certainly hanging in there rather well against its more powerful rivals. I'm sure next generation Nintendo will focus in on the graphics, but for now I'm enjoying great games and not having every other game I'm looking forward to flopping because developers were more worried about graphics instead of everything else that makes a great game.

So enjoy your amazing games in HD, I'm sure the lack of gameplay and a good story can be overlooked simply because it has stunning visuals. Myself and many others will be enjoying truly my games for more reasons than "it looks soooo good!" I'll be enjoying my games because they are great games.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

The_Dan_K

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

I actually have an HDTV and I do run it at said resolution, and it looks great to me. Brawl looks even better.

I meant native 720p. i can take a 10x10 pixel image and put it on my HDTV in 720p, image is still 10x10.

My point is that Wii can't handle having to produce 720p NATIVE images.

And if you think those games look good comapred to actual HD titles, you are missing something. Next you'll tell me there's no difference in DVD to blu-ray :roll:

I think that Galaxy looks better than some PS3 and 360 games, not all of them. It easily outclasses the majority of the games at both system's launch. It's not on the same level as Uncharted or Gears of War, but Galaxy does look just as good, if not better, than many lazy ports/multi-plats on the 360 and PS3.

[QUOTE="Michael85"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

dru26

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

Done it. Still looks fantastic. You should try it some time.

Ran it ON a 720p TV. But since we can't really run it in 720p, I assumed you meant running it in 480p on a 720p+ TV.

Either way, point stands: still looks fantastic.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

RazMaTaz-1

I can only imagine how much more fun SMG would be in HD.

Super Mario Galaxy looks fantastic. And it's pathetic that you think that it would be more fun to play if it ran at a higher resolution.

The Wii is an underpowered console, but it delivers more than what the other consoles tout as a "next-generation" experience.

OMG :lol: What a fanboy. Ive played Mario galaxy, the graphics are alright at best. The only thing the Wii delivers is gameplay, everything else is given to 360 + PS3. Even with Wii out, the graphics arnt even on paar with Xbox 1. Hell, it was shameful enough that God OF war PSP could compete with some of the games in terms of graphics compared to Wii.

1) The Wii has games that outclass every game released on a console last generation in graphics.

2) God of War for the PSP can be compared to some Wii games, that is true. However, this is not because of the Wii's hardware, but because of lazy developers who do not take their time in producing a good-looking game. I can compare God of War for the PSP to Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire for the PS3 without a hitch.

3) I'm not a fanboy. I'm just telling you the truth here that standards aren't lowered for any of the consoles including the Wii.

[QUOTE="dru26"][QUOTE="Michael85"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

Michael85

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

Done it. Still looks fantastic. You should try it some time.

Ran it ON a 720p TV. But since we can't really run it in 720p, I assumed you meant running it in 480p on a 720p+ TV.

Either way, point stands: still looks fantastic.

Same here, I run all of my Wii games on a TV that can deliver 1080i, and the games still look great even if the Wii doesn't support the said resolution.

[QUOTE="Musa_007"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Um compared to the system each critic expects more.

Critics bashed Fire Emblem for looking way too dated.

Praised games like Mario Galaxy for really looking good for a wii game.

SOme were 50/50 with Metroid Prime 3. SOme felt it looked great, the others felt it looked to much like Metroid PRime 2.

Brawl was also praised for looking good.

The best games on the wii usually have good graphics. Not 360/PS3 quality, but good graphics.

360 and PS3 are held to a higher standards in graphics, but honestly games like Halo 3 and Orange Box werent visual masterpieces and both were excellent games that didnt get bashed to hard.princeofshapeir

And looking identical on both wii and GC why did both versions got the same score in graphics then??:|

He said some reveiewers thought it looked too much like Metroid Prime 2, not all. GameSpot felt it looked great and thus gave it a good score in graphics.

I meant native 720p. i can take a 10x10 pixel image and put it on my HDTV in 720p, image is still 10x10.

My point is that Wii can't handle having to produce 720p NATIVE images.

And if you think those games look good comapred to actual HD titles, you are missing something. Next you'll tell me there's no difference in DVD to blu-ray :roll:

The_Dan_K

Go play COD4 on 360 or PS3 and tell me it looks bad because it is upscaled. Looks horrible right?

[QUOTE="Musa_007"]

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Hexagon_777

If you're so in love with graphics and physics then stay the hell away from the 360 and the PS3 and go to the PC. The Wii delivers a different experience while the other two try to imitate the PC as best as possible yet fall quite short. If you really love graphics and physics then you have no excuse not to go to the PC.

If you, however, choose to stick with the PS3 and especially the 360, then please stop your ignorant ramblings and just play your games, k? Not that hard.

[QUOTE="Musa_007"]

You can say all you want but SMG looks quite terrible.I for one am annoyed with the low res textures and god awful horrible jaggies.In this day and age there really is no excuse for a such an underpowered console.

I can only imagine how much more fun SMG would be in HD.

kejigoto

Last time I checked a game being HD or not doesn't really affect how fun a game is because, at least to myself, a game being fun relies on gameplay and not just looking good. What people need to realize is that gaming goes beyond just having a great looking game, but the gameplay needs to be just as solid and entertaining. Just because you have a beautiful game in HD doesn't mean its a fun game, it just means that it looks good and nothing more. Super Mario Galaxy is a great game for many reasons beyond the visual aspect of the game, and no matter how caught up some of you may be with graphics and being worried about "OMG that looks all jagged/blurry/pixelated/whateverthehellyoucanfindwrongwithsomething!!" doesn't change what makes a game fun.

Sure graphics count for something, but its not everything, and I'll take amazing gameplay, a great story, awesome sound quality, and many other aspects that make a good game if I have to deal with some toned down graphics. Does this mean I don't wish the Wii was more powerful? Of course not, all the time I think about how nice it would be to have a Wii on par with the 360 and PS3 but for what the Wii can put out its certainly hanging in there rather well against its more powerful rivals. I'm sure next generation Nintendo will focus in on the graphics, but for now I'm enjoying great games and not having every other game I'm looking forward to flopping because developers were more worried about graphics instead of everything else that makes a great game.

So enjoy your amazing games in HD, I'm sure the lack of gameplay and a good story can be overlooked simply because it has stunning visuals. Myself and many others will be enjoying truly my games for more reasons than "it looks soooo good!" I'll be enjoying my games because they are great games.

:lol: What? SMG has "a good story?" :lol: By the way, play CoD 4, Ratchet, Halo 3, Sins of a Solar Empire, Mass Effect. They all have great gameplay. i don't know what you are on, but Wii offers a DIFFERENT gameplay, not necessary the better one.

I think that Galaxy looks better than some PS3 and 360 games, not all of them. It easily outclasses the majority of the games at both system's launch. It's not on the same level as Uncharted or Gears of War, but Galaxy does look just as good, if not better, than many lazy ports/multi-plats on the 360 and PS3.

princeofshapeir

Oh, so you compare SMG, Wii's best looking title, to crappy ports on the PS3/360, their worst. Seems fair. But how do those Wii ports look?

How can you be sitting here arguing about how the Wii should be held in equal regard on graphical ability when compared to the PS3/360 when your opinion stems from comparing Wii's best to the other's worst?

Funny stuff.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Musa_007"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Um compared to the system each critic expects more.

Critics bashed Fire Emblem for looking way too dated.

Praised games like Mario Galaxy for really looking good for a wii game.

SOme were 50/50 with Metroid Prime 3. SOme felt it looked great, the others felt it looked to much like Metroid PRime 2.

Brawl was also praised for looking good.

The best games on the wii usually have good graphics. Not 360/PS3 quality, but good graphics.

360 and PS3 are held to a higher standards in graphics, but honestly games like Halo 3 and Orange Box werent visual masterpieces and both were excellent games that didnt get bashed to hard.Musa_007

And looking identical on both wii and GC why did both versions got the same score in graphics then??:|

He said some reveiewers thought it looked too much like Metroid Prime 2, not all. GameSpot felt it looked great and thus gave it a good score in graphics.

TP was a direct port with no graphical upgrades at all. This is directly from the developers.

In other words, no, it did not have the same standards as GC from day one, and had that argument held any water whatsoever, then TP on GC would have scored the same as it did on Wii, which it didn't.

what's with the nonsense posts today?Always-Honest

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

princeofshapeir

I can only imagine how much more fun SMG would be in HD.

Super Mario Galaxy looks fantastic. And it's pathetic that you think that it would be more fun to play if it ran at a higher resolution.

The Wii is an underpowered console, but it delivers more than what the other consoles tout as a "next-generation" experience.

OMG :lol: What a fanboy. Ive played Mario galaxy, the graphics are alright at best. The only thing the Wii delivers is gameplay, everything else is given to 360 + PS3. Even with Wii out, the graphics arnt even on paar with Xbox 1. Hell, it was shameful enough that God OF war PSP could compete with some of the games in terms of graphics compared to Wii.

1) The Wii has games that outclass every game released on a console last generation in graphics.

2) God of War for the PSP can be compared to some Wii games, that is true. However, this is not because of the Wii's hardware, but because of lazy developers who do not take their time in producing a good-looking game. I can compare God of War for the PSP to Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire for the PS3 without a hitch.

3) I'm not a fanboy. I'm just telling you the truth here that standards aren't lowered for any of the consoles including the Wii.

1) LMAO :lol: Show me a game that looks as good as Riddick or Ninja Gaiden Black :|

2) Im sorry, but have you even played gundam? Graphics cannot be compared to God Of war. I got the game for crying out load. Here is what it looks like:

Regardless of it. I dont care Wii cant even compete with Tekken 5 graphics. With devs that are completely familiar with Xbox and PS2 hardware, it should be fairly easy to push Wii graphics.

3) I beg to differ.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

I think that Galaxy looks better than some PS3 and 360 games, not all of them. It easily outclasses the majority of the games at both system's launch. It's not on the same level as Uncharted or Gears of War, but Galaxy does look just as good, if not better, than many lazy ports/multi-plats on the 360 and PS3.

The_Dan_K

Oh, so you compare SMG, Wii's best looking title, to crappy ports on the PS3/360, their worst. Seems fair. But how do those Wii ports look?

How can you be sitting here arguing about how the Wii should be held in equal regard on graphical ability when compared to the PS3/360 when your opinion stems from comparing Wii's best to the other's worst?

Funny stuff.

Well, apparently, it is fair to compare a Wii game that utilizes te console's full capabilities to some shovelware port on the 360. Weren't people before comparing God of War on the PSP to the Wii's absolute worst?

I think it is totally fair to compare Galaxy to some lazy port on the PS3/360. If they're on a console that promises the utmost best-looking games, why isn't it unfair?

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"]

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Musa_007

If you're so in love with graphics and physics then stay the hell away from the 360 and the PS3 and go to the PC. The Wii delivers a different experience while the other two try to imitate the PC as best as possible yet fall quite short. If you really love graphics and physics then you have no excuse not to go to the PC.

If you, however, choose to stick with the PS3 and especially the 360, then please stop your ignorant ramblings and just play your games, k? Not that hard.

Cool. I envy you. So why are you bashing the Wii? What are you getting from it? You have an awesome game machine. Use it.

[QUOTE="Musa_007"]

You can say all you want but SMG looks quite terrible.I for one am annoyed with the low res textures and god awful horrible jaggies.In this day and age there really is no excuse for a such an underpowered console.

I can only imagine how much more fun SMG would be in HD.

kejigoto

Last time I checked a game being HD or not doesn't really affect how fun a game is because, at least to myself, a game being fun relies on gameplay and not just looking good. What people need to realize is that gaming goes beyond just having a great looking game, but the gameplay needs to be just as solid and entertaining. Just because you have a beautiful game in HD doesn't mean its a fun game, it just means that it looks good and nothing more. Super Mario Galaxy is a great game for many reasons beyond the visual aspect of the game, and no matter how caught up some of you may be with graphics and being worried about "OMG that looks all jagged/blurry/pixelated/whateverthehellyoucanfindwrongwithsomething!!" doesn't change what makes a game fun.

Sure graphics count for something, but its not everything, and I'll take amazing gameplay, a great story, awesome sound quality, and many other aspects that make a good game if I have to deal with some toned down graphics. Does this mean I don't wish the Wii was more powerful? Of course not, all the time I think about how nice it would be to have a Wii on par with the 360 and PS3 but for what the Wii can put out its certainly hanging in there rather well against its more powerful rivals. I'm sure next generation Nintendo will focus in on the graphics, but for now I'm enjoying great games and not having every other game I'm looking forward to flopping because developers were more worried about graphics instead of everything else that makes a great game.

So enjoy your amazing games in HD, I'm sure the lack of gameplay and a good story can be overlooked simply because it has stunning visuals. Myself and many others will be enjoying truly my games for more reasons than "it looks soooo good!" I'll be enjoying my games because they are great games.

Maybe you didnt notice but this thread is basically saying that it's unfair comparing wii games with 360 and ps3 in a way as to say that the wii has this many AAA's and the 360 has this many.Purely in terms of system wars it just isnt logical to compare like that.

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Musa_007

1) LMAO :lol: Show me a game that looks as good as Riddick or Ninja Gaiden Black :|

2) Im sorry, but have you even played gundam? Graphics cannot be compared to God Of war. I got the game for crying out load. Here is what it looks like:

Regardless of it. I dont care Wii cant even compete with Tekken 5 graphics. With devs that are completely familiar with Xbox and PS2 hardware, it should be fairly easy to push Wii graphics.

3) I beg to differ.

RazMaTaz-1

1) Has Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, and RE4: Wii Edition been hiding from you all this time, or are you jujst totally ignoring them?

2) It's bad enough that you bought Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire, but play the game in motion and it looks and feels like a last-last gen game. That still screenshot can't make up for the horrendous mess of technical gameplay goof ups that are abundant in-game.

3) Hide from the truth, then.

[QUOTE="Musa_007"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Musa_007"]

That developers on the wii dont have to concentrate on graphics,physics and all the technical stuff and they can just concentrate on the gameplay.Whereas on the 360 and ps3 reviewers will snub a game with review points if it dares to look at bit dated or last gen.:roll:

And obviously a bad game with good graphics and physics is worth nothing so basically on the 360 and ps3 games need to look good and play good in order to be a great game.Developers have to devote resources to it and also learn new ways to tap the power of the technology in the consoles.Whereas for the wii devs are working with 5 year ols tech that they been used to and know it's potential.

Ya how fair system wars that we compare the wii with the 360 and ps3 on an equal ground.:roll:

Hexagon_777

If you're so in love with graphics and physics then stay the hell away from the 360 and the PS3 and go to the PC. The Wii delivers a different experience while the other two try to imitate the PC as best as possible yet fall quite short. If you really love graphics and physics then you have no excuse not to go to the PC.

If you, however, choose to stick with the PS3 and especially the 360, then please stop your ignorant ramblings and just play your games, k? Not that hard.

Cool. I envy you. So why are you bashing the Wii? What are you getting from it? You have an awesome game machine. Use it.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

The_Dan_K

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

:lol: What? SMG has "a good story?" :lol: By the way, play CoD 4, Ratchet, Halo 3, Sins of a Solar Empire, Mass Effect. They all have great gameplay. i don't know what you are on, but Wii offers a DIFFERENT gameplay, not necessary the better one.

dkhw

With your apparent inability to truly read what was posted I guess I'll explain what I meant, since it way over your head. First of all I never said Super Mario Galaxy had a good story, I said it had great gameplay and that's the reason it won Game of the Year 2007 and not something that appeared on the Xbox 360 or the PS3. Also I never said not everything on the 360 or PS3 have terrible gameplay, but I've seen plenty of games come out that everyone was looking forward to (Army of Two anyone?) then it falls flat on its face because developers are more worried about the visual aspect of the game and not other areas. The point to my post was it takes more than just amazing graphics to make a truly great game, and that's more than apparent with the Wii, developers are focusing in on other core aspects of the game and not just what can look the best.

Its not the system that offers a better gameplay experience, but its more on the developers to offer that level of better gameplay experience. Not every game on the PS3 or 360 are better than the Wii and not every game on the Wii will be better than every game on the PS3 and 360. Also if Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, Mass Effect, and ect. had truly great gameplay, then this "terrible looking subpar" Wii game wouldn't have the Game of the Year title now would it?

[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

Fireball2500

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

First of all, just the fact that they were "surprised" says it all. It means that normally Wii games look like dung. Also, that says nothing about those graphics compared to those natively rendered in HD on the 360/PS3.

[QUOTE="dkhw"]

:lol: What? SMG has "a good story?" :lol: By the way, play CoD 4, Ratchet, Halo 3, Sins of a Solar Empire, Mass Effect. They all have great gameplay. i don't know what you are on, but Wii offers a DIFFERENT gameplay, not necessary the better one.

kejigoto

With your apparent inability to truly read what was posted I guess I'll explain what I meant, since it way over your head. First of all I never said Super Mario Galaxy had a good story, I said it had great gameplay and that's the reason it won Game of the Year 2007 and not something that appeared on the Xbox 360 or the PS3. Also I never said not everything on the 360 or PS3 have terrible gameplay, but I've seen plenty of games come out that everyone was looking forward to (Army of Two anyone?) then it falls flat on its face because developers are more worried about the visual aspect of the game and not other areas. The point to my post was it takes more than just amazing graphics to make a truly great game, and that's more than apparent with the Wii, developers are focusing in on other core aspects of the game and not just what can look the best.

Its not the system that offers a better gameplay experience, but its more on the developers to offer that level of better gameplay experience. Not every game on the PS3 or 360 are better than the Wii and not every game on the Wii will be better than every game on the PS3 and 360. Also if Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, Mass Effect, and ect. had truly great gameplay, then this "terrible looking subpar" Wii game wouldn't have the Game of the Year title now would it?

Seriously, if people want to live in the past and play games with bad graphics, don't upgrade from last gen... Just like cars and everything else, visual appeal goes up each generation... ZOMG but the car doesn't drive as good, they rushed it for the graphics :roll:D3monchicken

[QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Super Mario Galaxy has amazing physics, graphics, and atmosphere. Many 360 and PS3 games can't match it.

Enough of this "Wii games have lower standards" Bull. You know this isn't true.

The_Dan_K

Wow. Another non-HDTV owner telling us how good SMG graphics are. Try running it at 720p on the Wii and see what happens.

First of all, just the fact that they were "surprised" says it all. It means that normally Wii games look like dung. Also, that says nothing about those graphics compared to those natively rendered in HD on the 360/PS3.