It's official: Oblivion on PS3 owns the 360 version

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#151 Blinblingthing
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Proof that IGN is worthless:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/751/751136p1.html

This is just one example of their preview that reads like it should be a good game.  The only downfall they mention is the graphics and talk it up the rest of the interview and score it a 4.  One editor has even stated they talk a game up and err more on the side of giving a sugar coated preview.

IGN is usually too lenient, but read this preview and tell me this reads like a game that would eventually get a 4.0.

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No no no

they over rate a game thats gone everywhere, proves nothing

But saying a game looks better comparing, loads faster etc, you really think they were wrong???

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#152 TekkenMaster606
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Who cares if they duplicated the data or not. Were you personally involved in the development process? Did you break a sweat and scream in frustration while coming to a resolution?

Of course not. You put the disc in, and play.


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#153 mentzer
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The load times would be slower, if they did not duplicate the game on the BR disk !!! Tehy said themselves, plus they had a whole year to optimize loading times

The patch is coming to 360, so no big deal here

And the DL content still does not fit in PS3 ram !!!

Plus the game has less AA, and FAR worst textures, notice the lower res grass ? The lower res textures on rocks and the fallen tree ? Just a huge downgrade here

avenger_dot

How is the game duplicated???   

"Oblivion will make extensive use of the PS3's hard drive by caching multiple gigabytes of data, which seemed to help with load times from what we saw. Bethesda's Pete Hines also commented that recent reports
of data duplication on the PS3 Oblivion disc have been exaggerated, and this technique isn't different than the similar strategy that was employed in the creation of the Xbox 360 game last year. "

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#154 avenger_dot
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They said so, anyway, even if it is not the case, the HDD is the key, not BR for sure, becuase they DID say it was far slower than 360 one, plus they could have optimized for 360 HDD more in 8 more months they had for PS3, right ?

And those textures SUCK, comparing to 360 version

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#155 outlawz247
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So, because the PS3 version has shorter load times, less slow down and more draw distance - it owns the 360 version? :|HeedleGlavin

lol. You don't care about load times and better graphics?

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#156 avenger_dot
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]So, because the PS3 version has shorter load times, less slow down and more draw distance - it owns the 360 version? :|outlawz247

lol. You don't care about load times and better graphics?

Look at those terriblke textures, those are not betetr graphics !!! And loading times were never a real issue in my 150+ hours in Oblivion

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#157 fonzie313
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[QUOTE="asdasd"]So much for the lemmings saying the PS3 version was a downgrade. Its actually an upgrade :Djd7-03
I better go buy a $600 PS3 to Oblivion and save 3 seconds for load times! Give it a rest Ps3 fanboys, your system isn't very good, its getting a port of a PC/360 game, A PORT! Its not exclusive, and doesn't have achievements. Have a nice day!

stop being a noob on damage control. the topic isnt about what is a better game. just to shut up the haters who have been posting for the past week that the ps3 cant run oblivion as good or better than the xbox360 version
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#158 WillKillsM
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So, because the PS3 version has shorter load times, less slow down and more draw distance - it owns the 360 version? :|HeedleGlavin
YEAH! But I bet if it was the other way around you fanboys would flood the forums with the topic!
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#159 mentzer
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They said so, anyway, even if it is not the case, the HDD is the key, not BR for sure, becuase they DID say it was far slower than 360 one, plus they could have optimized for 360 HDD more in 8 more months they had for PS3, right ?

And those textures SUCK, comparing to 360 version

avenger_dot

How do the PS3 textures suck, when the 360 sported low rez textures in far off details, and the PS3 version doesn't?

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#160 fonzie313
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Who cares if they duplicated the data or not. Were you personally involved in the development process? Did you break a sweat and scream in frustration while coming to a resolution?

Of course not. You put the disc in, and play.


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lol pwned
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#161 fonzie313
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[QUOTE="avenger_dot"]

They said so, anyway, even if it is not the case, the HDD is the key, not BR for sure, becuase they DID say it was far slower than 360 one, plus they could have optimized for 360 HDD more in 8 more months they had for PS3, right ?

And those textures SUCK, comparing to 360 version

mentzer

How do the PS3 textures suck, when the 360 sported low rez textures in far off details, and the PS3 version doesn't?

coz he is wearing his hater gogglz thats why
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#162 mwa
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[QUOTE="outlawz247"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]So, because the PS3 version has shorter load times, less slow down and more draw distance - it owns the 360 version? :|avenger_dot

lol. You don't care about load times and better graphics?

Look at those terriblke textures, those are not betetr graphics !!! And loading times were never a real issue in my 150+ hours in Oblivion


lol leave him alone...the cows are just desperate for some good news so they'll latch on to anything that might help their cause...too bad 1up has already stated that oblivion will be worse on PS3 due to the fact that it has less RAM than the 360
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#163 fonzie313
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[QUOTE="avenger_dot"][QUOTE="outlawz247"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]So, because the PS3 version has shorter load times, less slow down and more draw distance - it owns the 360 version? :|mwa

lol. You don't care about load times and better graphics?

Look at those terriblke textures, those are not betetr graphics !!! And loading times were never a real issue in my 150+ hours in Oblivion


lol leave him alone...the cows are just desperate for some good news so they'll latch on to anything that might help their cause...too bad 1up has already stated that oblivion will be worse on PS3 due to the fact that it has less RAM than the 360

denial lol stop being on damage control coz most lemmings were all hailing that 1up article. now the long thread bout the 1up vid has been owned
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#164 avenger_dot
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[QUOTE="avenger_dot"]

They said so, anyway, even if it is not the case, the HDD is the key, not BR for sure, becuase they DID say it was far slower than 360 one, plus they could have optimized for 360 HDD more in 8 more months they had for PS3, right ?

And those textures SUCK, comparing to 360 version

mentzer

How do the PS3 textures suck, when the 360 sported low rez textures in far off details, and the PS3 version doesn't?

The grass is lower res, look blurry, unlike on 360, look at that tree to the right, is that a SUPER low texture or what ? The fallen tree ? See it ? now 360 has bump mapping and far more detail on trees, and everything looks a tad more blurry than my 360

So, what good is to make the far placeholder textures a bit better, if all other textures in the game are about to suffer ?

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#165 Truth_Hurts_U
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This whole thing reminds me of Fight Night Round 3... Everyone knows it got downgraded and the character models got a slight upgrade for the PS3. Yet it is said to look better. :lol:

I think this is the same deal. Don't worry there is going to be Versus on this.

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#166 Strakha
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Looks like cows finally have a good game on their system...
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#167 aeminjnb2006
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cept the ps3 version comes out like a year after the 360 version
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#168 him42
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It's official: Everyone played Oblivion last year...
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#169 Nagidar
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1. I said before that Bethesda would figure out how to use the PS3's hardware. (If this is true)

2. The 360 is getting an XBL update to "fix" the stuff they learned about shader technology.

3. Did they address the RAM issue?

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#170 v-vega75
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[QUOTE="avenger_dot"]

The load times would be slower, if they did not duplicate the game on the BR disk !!! Tehy said themselves, plus they had a whole year to optimize loading times

The patch is coming to 360, so no big deal here

And the DL content still does not fit in PS3 ram !!!

Plus the game has less AA, and FAR worst textures, notice the lower res grass ? The lower res textures on rocks and the fallen tree ? Just a huge downgrade here

mentzer

How is the game duplicated???   

"Oblivion will make extensive use of the PS3's hard drive by caching multiple gigabytes of data, which seemed to help with load times from what we saw. Bethesda's Pete Hines also commented that recent reports
of data duplication on the PS3 Oblivion disc have been exaggerated, and this technique isn't different than the similar strategy that was employed in the creation of the Xbox 360 game last year. "

dude your post is exaggerated.do some real research and stop going on fanboyism. bethesda,s pete hines and others said that they had to pad the game because there is to much space to fill the disk. and that the load time suck big time. that why they have to dup it to speed up the load time. and without the extra memory in the ps3 it will miss out on thing like new horse armor or downloadable weapons. that they have to pick and choose what they put into the ps3 version.

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#171 Duckyindiana
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I loved it when the game first came out sony fans went on the the 360 was getting another naff pc port and now they get the game they are trying to claim ownage on a game we have all played to death.
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#172 WillKillsM
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I loved it when the game first came out sony fans went on the the 360 was getting another naff pc port and now they get the game they are trying to claim ownage on a game we have all played to death.Duckyindiana
You may have played it to death, but many others haven't! So therefore you speak for yourself. I own it for the 360 and I will be buying it for the PS3 also, because it's a better quality game.
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#173 Duckyindiana
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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]I loved it when the game first came out sony fans went on the the 360 was getting another naff pc port and now they get the game they are trying to claim ownage on a game we have all played to death.WillKillsM
You may have played it to death, but many others haven't! So therefore you speak for yourself. I own it for the 360 and I will be buying it for the PS3 also, because it's a better quality game.

Im not saying its not better quailty its just cows did not seem to care for the game and the second there version gets some improvements they all seem to love it.
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#174 trasherhead
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So, because the PS3 version has shorter load times, less slow down and more draw distance - it owns the 360 version? :|HeedleGlavin
Well thats how the lems put it when it is the PS3 game that has slower FPS, less draw distance and slower load times.
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#175 FFObsessed
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360:



PS3:



PS3 FTW?
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#176 JohanJuurkenoph
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Having to spend an extra year trying to get the PS3 version up to par the with the 360 version is sort of the opposite of ownage IMO. Of course with the extra development time in trying to get the PS3 version to the match the 360 version the developers were able to refine their shader codes making them more efficient and effective. Remember that most developers are still relatively new to coding shader algorithms for real time 3D graphics. What you all should realise is that these shader algorithm optimizations will also benefit the 360 version via a patch. In any case, I say we should wait until the PS3 version is released and the 360 version is patched before any comparisons between the versions are made; though I'm willing to bet the 360 versions will still have the better visuals (most shaders affect how textures look) and frame rates since its GPU has the better shader performance.
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#177 Truth_Hurts_U
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360:



PS3:



PS3 FTW?
FFObsessed

PS3 wins distance... It looks better, the ground... Same draw distance as the 360. Until the 360 patch.

360 wins up close. Everything looks more detailed and more colorful. Plus it doesn't look like the lighting in the PS3 version is any good compared to the 360's. Does the PS3 version have HDR? I don't think so from that pic.

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#178 daveg1
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nothing that could not have been improved for the 360 with a year later dev time.
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#179 DressYouUp
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360:



PS3:



PS3 FTW?
FFObsessed
The 360 version is getting a patch to fix the textures in the distance so there goes your ridiculousness, cow. The BS3 version looks like a washed out mess, deal with it.
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#180 okristian
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Why do all the pics from the PS3 version have a Brown filter?
Oblivion looks much better with bright colours and Good lightening AND good textures up close.
Theese things seem non existant in The PS3 Versio

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Ownage Denied
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#181 Suyomizzle_
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So, because the PS3 version has shorter load times, less slow down and more draw distance - it owns the 360 version? :|HeedleGlavin
Yes. I doubt IGN's knowledge on the issue is really conclusive, but if all of that is true, then yes. Something I could not possibly have expected. But you look like a moron denying that Oblivion being vastly improved on the PS3 isn't something of a victory.
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#182 Skippyj9
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So. . . IGN said the PS3 version is better when 1UP said the 360 one is superior?BK-Sleeper


 And Gamespot said the PS3 version has sharper textures, better draw distance(360 will get this too though), shorter load times, and better framerate... and includes everything and more that the 360 version has content-wise. They say the load times are shorter because they can cache multiple GB to the PS3's Hard-drive, something they couldn't do with 360.

I can't wait to finally get to play this game.
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#183 dru26
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I am not sure if these slight improvements warrant repurchasing a year old game. I'll make a decision when I see Mehrunes Razor and some of the other must have DC on PSN. Also until, the expansion is announced for the ps3 version, there is obviously no reason to re-buy it.

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#184 bigLLL
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haha sucked in 360 owners for saying it was a downgrade just admit you have been owned, the ps3 should have a better version cause it's a year later to make improvement but when u 360 owners thought it was a downgrade u was giving the ps3 fans a lot of **** so enjoy it ps3 fans and suffer diehard 360 fanboys, you set urself up for this even though ps3 should be better.... but u was paying them out still when u thought it a downgrade so wateva fairgame I say
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#185 Nagidar
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haha sucked in 360 owners for saying it was a downgrade just admit you have been owned, the ps3 should have a better version cause it's a year later to make improvement but when u 360 owners thought it was a downgrade u was giving the ps3 fans a lot of **** so enjoy it ps3 fans and suffer diehard 360 fanboys, you set urself up for this even though ps3 should be better.... but u was paying them out still when u thought it a downgrade so wateva fairgame I say bigLLL

 You may want to wait until the final game is released and the 360 gets this update, you may end up eating your words.

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#186 okristian
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]So, because the PS3 version has shorter load times, less slow down and more draw distance - it owns the 360 version? :|Suyomizzle_
Yes. I doubt IGN's knowledge on the issue is really conclusive, but if all of that is true, then yes. Something I could not possibly have expected. But you look like a moron denying that Oblivion being vastly improved on the PS3 isn't something of a victory.

"Vastly Improved?" ('_')
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#187 bigLLL
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[QUOTE="bigLLL"]haha sucked in 360 owners for saying it was a downgrade just admit you have been owned, the ps3 should have a better version cause it's a year later to make improvement but when u 360 owners thought it was a downgrade u was giving the ps3 fans a lot of **** so enjoy it ps3 fans and suffer diehard 360 fanboys, you set urself up for this even though ps3 should be better.... but u was paying them out still when u thought it a downgrade so wateva fairgame I say Nagidar

 You may want to wait until the final game is released and the 360 gets this update, you may end up eating your words.

it dont matter either way i aint own a ps3, i just find it funny :) cause ms fans at the moment seems to be eating there words, cause they was quick to say ps3 version was a downgrade and junk you have to admit that!!! all im saying it's fair game for ps3 fans to enjoy it at the moment just like the 360 fanboys do
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#188 FoamingPanda
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A shame that the PC version blows both out of the water.

For what reason?  Not always graphics.

User-made mods.

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#189 okristian
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Can someone provide the link to where it says that Oblivion for the 360 will be getting an uppdate?
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#190 jdknight21
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[QUOTE="YellowPik"]You mean the game I've been playing since March? :?Blinblingthing

More like a downgrade compared to the PS3 version you were playing since march :D

Yes.  You are right it was so awful and such a downgrade compared to the PS3 version it's been game of the year in some places and was AAA here and pretty much across the board. 

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#191 The_Game21x
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360:



PS3:



PS3 FTW?
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The PS3 version looks sharper and more detailed, but the 360 version's colors pop and the lighting looks slightly better.

Aside from the better textures in the distance, I don't see much of an improvement. Sure, there is one, but that comes with the territory when you consider that the game has had an extra year of development.

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#192 Private_Vegas
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If you measure the reduction of load times, and multiply it by the number of loading screens (Ld) you encounter while playing the game (n) (with 3 different characters, doing all factions, and numerous side quest). now if n x Ld = the one year wait between 360 and PS3 version... then you'll have something. Otherwise, go back under your bridge troll.
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#193 0rin
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Can someone provide the link to where it says that Oblivion for the 360 will be getting an uppdate?okristian
I was actually wondering this myself. I heard it was a rumor 1up started. I think its pretty obvious that 1up takes sides. Anyone with two eyes and a brain can see that. But yeah. I'll humbly claim some long since due "ownage" here. It feels good to be back on top for once. I never participated in the whole last gen system wars, so the way I see it, all these system wars lemming vets have it commin, after the past YEAR of trash talking. It's been a real tough year for the Cows. here's hoping things will finally start looking up. Maybe even some day, we will all be treated as equals. PHHHH yeah right. :/ Anyway, Thank you 360 fanboys, for helping the Sony camp own you by letting your arrogance turn and rear its ugly head back at yourselves. Karma, do you believe in it? I sure do :)
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#194 needlesmcgirk
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I don't understand how the 360 version can receive an update that gives it all nese features from the PS3 version. it clearly says on IGN that: "the PS3 version has been optimized to take advantage of the Cell processor and hardware that the system offers. As a result, the game runs a lot faster than the 360 build." Not sure that you can just patch the 360 and it all the sudden becomes a more powerful system...
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#195 Jack-Thompson
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I remember playing and finishing Oblivion. It was a good game.
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#196 JohanJuurkenoph
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[QUOTE="needlesmcgirk"]I don't understand how the 360 version can receive an update that gives it all nese features from the PS3 version. it clearly says on IGN that: "the PS3 version has been optimized to take advantage of the Cell processor and hardware that the system offers. As a result, the game runs a lot faster than the 360 build." Not sure that you can just patch the 360 and it all the sudden becomes a more powerful system...

That's because you have no idea how 3D engines and shaders work. There have been plenty of examples in the PC gaming space where patches have improved the frame rate and graphics of a game all without requiring a system upgrade. If there's one game on the 360 where I believe a patch can improve frame rate and graphics then it's Oblivion. Bethesda just isn't well-known for well-optimized 3D engines. Just look at Morrowind and all the subsequent patches it had to go through to get that game playable. There's certainly plenty of room for improvement in Oblivion's graphics engine.
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#197 CwlHeddwyn
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@ OP when ign wrote that they didnt know the Xbox 360 version would get an update - the article is old.
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#198 fixer293
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[QUOTE="needlesmcgirk"]I don't understand how the 360 version can receive an update that gives it all nese features from the PS3 version. it clearly says on IGN that: "the PS3 version has been optimized to take advantage of the Cell processor and hardware that the system offers. As a result, the game runs a lot faster than the 360 build." Not sure that you can just patch the 360 and it all the sudden becomes a more powerful system...JohanJuurkenoph
That's because you have no idea how 3D engines and shaders work. There have been plenty of examples in the PC gaming space where patches have improved the frame rate and graphics of a game all without requiring a system upgrade. If there's one game on the 360 where I believe a patch can improve frame rate and graphics then it's Oblivion. Bethesda just isn't well-known for well-optimized 3D engines. Just look at Morrowind and all the subsequent patches it had to go through to get that game playable. There's certainly plenty of room for improvement in Oblivion's graphics engine.

Agreed

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#199 ZeLeam
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@ OP when ign wrote that they didnt know the Xbox 360 version would get an update - the article is old.CwlHeddwyn
yesterday is old? :P
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#200 blacktorn
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It won't have achievements,so i don't care it's the same game,and btw the 360 version is getting a patch which gives it the updated shader which the ps3 version is also going to have so /thread