I've seen apple computers getting a bad rep here

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] 3DMark? As in benchmarking? The PC would be far superior. In video editing, the Mac might possibly be a few seconds faster, but ultimately it's something that doesn't really matter.kolkov01

you can look at the ol 'ography without guilt or worry I guess.

Deepfreeze/SteadyState combined with No Script on a PC would give it Mac-like security otherwise.

[QUOTE="tempest91"][QUOTE="Rippou"] You're talking to someone who used a Windows PC all his life, and has fixed all 6 PC's he owned from anything they had wrong with them. Again, I never said OSX didn't have issues. To assume because I own a Mac I don't know my system password is ignorance.Rippou

I didn't assume everything, i was only generalizing my own clients. My only question is, why do you like OSX better knowing as much as you do about OS's? I'm just curious.

I'm glad you recognize all of these things. So many overlook or won't admit those issues. I can see how you couldhate having to deal with some of the common issues with Windows. I've never really had issues with any OS, I just play too many games to get much use out of OSX.

I dont really like MACs or the "Apple"company really. They're computers are good but for the price I just dont think its really worth it (but everyone jumps on the bandwagon anyway). Now its just seems like its "cool" to own a "Apple" product, people will buy a Macbook just so they can feel rich and important, lol; when really a regular and much cheaper laptop would probably suffice. Plus dont even get me started on how much "Apple' milks they're Ipods and such. I mean common. They change the size and add one stupid feature and people go crazy for it, just because its "Apple". They come out with a new model almost every year doing this.

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

Ragnarok1051

1 up.

[QUOTE="Rippou"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

I didn't assume everything, i was only generalizing my own clients. My only question is, why do you like OSX better knowing as much as you do about OS's? I'm just curious.

tempest91

I'm glad you recognize all of these things. So many overlook or won't admit those issues. I can see how you couldhate having to deal with some of the common issues with Windows. I've never really had issues with any OS, I just play too many games to get much use out of OSX.

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

kolkov01

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

RPG-explorer

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

RPG-explorer

Lol you think macs are immune to ALL viruses.

Wanna hear a joke?

MACS

ROFLMAO

MellowMighty

Apple computers are way to expensive for what they give you. And that's even if you don't game on PC.

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"][QUOTE="kolkov01"]

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

kosmosfreak2

Lol you think macs are immune to ALL viruses.

[QUOTE="Rippou"]Yes, this is true. But OSX is better than Windows which is why I use it.tempest91

OSX is not better it's just different. Every OS has its flaws.

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

RPG-explorer

Macs are not immune to viruses and get hacked daily. This is all fanboy nonsense, and extremely marginalized.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="Rippou"]Yes, this is true. But OSX is better than Windows which is why I use it.RPG-explorer

OSX is not better it's just different. Every OS has its flaws.

Snow Leopard is far from flawless. Macs have system crashes, kernal failure and number of other things. I've never had an issue at all with Windows 7, and I'm not here claiming perfection because i'm not that naive or uninformed as you appear to be.

[QUOTE="kosmosfreak2"]

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"] No it's not true my MAC cost $2000, and it came with 3.2 ghz Intel Core Duo processor 4GB DDR3 RAM 1 Terabyte Hard Drive 24 inch screen, resolution 1920x1200 Nvidia GE Force GT 130 512-ram video card Super drive DVD Burner Built in Wi-Fi USB and Firewire ports Computer and Keyboard made with Aluminum Alloy not plastic Mighty Mouse Software includes The latest version of OS X - Snow Leopard along with I-life, i-movie,i-photo,i-tunes, i-DVD and the best integrated included video chat program on the market...I-chat Not to mention programs like Time Machine, a phenomenal inclusive back up program, and Front Row the program that allows you to see all movie trailers that are currently being shown in theatre's across the country right there on your MAC. All this on a computer that does not have or require " ANY " antivirus or spyware software on it, a computer that is immune to any and all computer viruses. The reason's that possibly some system wars members might bash MAC is because they either are just pro PC and rescent any other form of OS on the computer market, or they might not be able to afford the higher price tag so they bash it out of anger, or it could just be that they know that the PC platform has the larger gaming library and this is a gaming forum after all. However i was an original PC user from about 1985 until 1998, then i tried my friends MAC Performa for the first time and never owned another PC since and i never will, so it's all what you prefer or are willing to try ,or accept i guess.RPG-explorer

Lol you think macs are immune to ALL viruses.

Because when there is an issue with a crashed system its so very easy to screen shot it and then post it from that computer right?

But you want a link... so here

http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=189 Lol the technical help forums on the apple website.

But its apple.. it just works... Right?

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

OSX is not better it's just different. Every OS has its flaws.

tempest91

Snow Leopard is far from flawless. Macs have system crashes, kernal failure and number of other things. I've never had an issue at all with Windows 7, and I'm not here claiming perfection because i'm not that naive or uninformed as you appear to be.

I have heard on other forums at least mac users calling snow leapord the vista of macs. A lot of people are "from what ive heard this is all third party" suggesting you just stick with leapord.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"] Umm not really no, sorry but OS X Snow Leopard is flawless, i have not had one problem, error, crash, nothing, thats just the way it is on a MAC.kosmosfreak2

Snow Leopard is far from flawless. Macs have system crashes, kernal failure and number of other things. I've never had an issue at all with Windows 7, and I'm not here claiming perfection because i'm not that naive or uninformed as you appear to be.

I have heard on other forums at least mac users calling snow leapord the vista of macs. A lot of people are "from what ive heard this is all third party" suggesting you just stick with leapord.

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

OSX is not better it's just different. Every OS has its flaws.

tempest91

Snow Leopard is far from flawless. Macs have system crashes, kernal failure and number of other things. I've never had an issue at all with Windows 7, and I'm not here claiming perfection because i'm not that naive or uninformed as you appear to be.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"] Umm not really no, sorry but OS X Snow Leopard is flawless, i have not had one problem, error, crash, nothing, thats just the way it is on a MAC.kosmosfreak2

Snow Leopard is far from flawless. Macs have system crashes, kernal failure and number of other things. I've never had an issue at all with Windows 7, and I'm not here claiming perfection because i'm not that naive or uninformed as you appear to be.

I have heard on other forums at least mac users calling snow leapord the vista of macs. A lot of people are "from what ive heard this is all third party" suggesting you just stick with leapord.

Snow leopard is not only buggy, it's unnecessary.

[QUOTE="kosmosfreak2"]

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

Snow Leopard is far from flawless. Macs have system crashes, kernal failure and number of other things. I've never had an issue at all with Windows 7, and I'm not here claiming perfection because i'm not that naive or uninformed as you appear to be.

tempest91

I have heard on other forums at least mac users calling snow leapord the vista of macs. A lot of people are "from what ive heard this is all third party" suggesting you just stick with leapord.

Snow leopard is not only buggy, it's unnecessary.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"] Umm not really no, sorry but OS X Snow Leopard is flawless, i have not had one problem, error, crash, nothing, thats just the way it is on a MAC.RPG-explorer

Snow Leopard is far from flawless. Macs have system crashes, kernal failure and number of other things. I've never had an issue at all with Windows 7, and I'm not here claiming perfection because i'm not that naive or uninformed as you appear to be.

If you really "worked on PC's" they wouldn't give you headaches. I work on PC's, Mac's and Linux computers every day and none of them give me headaches (except apple because they are unnecessarily propietary in most cases). I don't need to go to an apple store to know that they have extremely limited software support, an overrated OS, and are far from perfect. Windows isn't inferior in the least, it just doesn't hold your hand if you have no idea what you are doing, which is majority of Mac users don't. Your opinion =/= fact. You are happily brainwashed, and i'm glad you can show off your elitism so freely.

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

Mazoch

From the apple store:

3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

1920 x 1080 resolution

4GB memory

1TB hard drive

8x double-layer SuperDrive

ATI Radeon HD 4670 graphics with 256MB

Total cost - $1499

Using Newegg a similar windows computer would cost:

CPU - $144

27" Monitor - $240 (Samsung 24" - 1920 x 1080)

4 GB DDR3 PC3 10600 Memory - $99

1 TB Western Digital HD $99

ATI Radeon HD 4670 w 1GB video Ram - $69 (That's 4 times the video ram on the mac)

Antec 900 Case - $99

Cosair 650W Power Supply - $89

Asus P5QL MB - $99

DVD-R - $30

Total - $824

And consider that

- Each of the PC componenets are as good or in most cases a good deal better than the Apple counter part (4 x the ram on the video card, DDR3 Ram, Top of the line Cassis, better than needed power supply.

- The PC could be optimized a lot giving you more bang for your buck instead of going by what apple uses in their machines

Granted, that's a 24", so I guess you can go ahead and step up to the 27" iMac if you'd like to make the price comparison somewhat more fair.

edit: PS - now the PC costs $2500 to match the Mac's monitor, btw

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="kosmosfreak2"]

I have heard on other forums at least mac users calling snow leapord the vista of macs. A lot of people are "from what ive heard this is all third party" suggesting you just stick with leapord.

RPG-explorer

Snow leopard is not only buggy, it's unnecessary.

Apple forums are flooded with people who are frustrated with snow leopard. Stop pretending these issues don't exist.

plus i dont kno what i would do with out the option of right clickingstereointegrity

They are basicly targeted to people who know nothing about computer hardware. Just like Alienware

akbar13

exactly, the difference is though if you buy a lets say... 2000 dollar mac computer, if you payed that money at alien ware you would a computer that is leaps and bounds ahead of the mac computer.

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

Snow leopard is not only buggy, it's unnecessary.

tempest91

Apple forums are flooded with people who are frustrated with snow leopard. Stop pretending these issues don't exist.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"] i haven't had any problems with Snow Leopard so i don't know what bugs you guy's are talking about.RPG-explorer

Apple forums are flooded with people who are frustrated with snow leopard. Stop pretending these issues don't exist.

I've never had problems with windows xp, vista, or 7, so they are perfect then?

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

kolkov01

At the local apple store i can get one of those worktops or whatever they called, those with the hardware in the monitor, for 2000$, and that was with a 9200 geforce, 2gb ddr2 of ram 120gb HDD, and 2.2 intel duo i think, one quick at the internet and i can get a rig with a 1tb 7200rpm hdd, 6gb ddr3 kingston, a intel core i7 2,66ghz x 4, an ATI 5870. Heck my laptop costs half the price of the mac and it has better hardware... do i REALLY need to explain any further why i think macs are obsolete?

[QUOTE="akbar13"]

They are basicly targeted to people who know nothing about computer hardware. Just like Alienware

Sully28

exactly, the difference is though if you buy a lets say... 2000 dollar mac computer, if you payed that money at alien ware you would a computer that is leaps and bounds ahead of the mac computer.

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]plus i dont kno what i would do with out the option of right clickingRPG-explorer

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

DoomZaW

At the local apple store i can get one of those worktops or whatever they called, those with the hardware in the monitor, for 2000$, and that was with a 9200 geforce, 2gb ddr2 of ram 120gb HDD, and 2.2 intel duo i think, one quick at the internet and i can get a rig with a 1tb 7200rpm hdd, 6gb ddr3 kingston, a intel core i7 2,66ghz x 4, an ATI 5870. Heck my laptop costs half the price of the mac and it has better hardware... do i REALLY need to explain any further why i think macs are obsolete?

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]plus i dont kno what i would do with out the option of right clickingRPG-explorer

You can plug in a typical mouse to a mac and it works I get that.

But seriously you of all people should not be saying anything of the sort "So again this is just an old stereotype from a PC user who never tried a MAC" Everything you have been saying minus the mouse issue is completely off mate.

My gf is very much a mac person (shes gone into communications and so I movie and some of the other programs have helped her) I have experiance with both macs and pcs and especially with windows 7 I still say pc > mac Im not a microsoft fanboy im just against apple and its business practices and policies as well as its markups on inferior hardware.

Mac has its uses and my girlfriend is a prime example of just that. Anyone that goes out and lays down 2 grand on an apple to "use the internet" is a retard.

[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

RPG-explorer

At the local apple store i can get one of those worktops or whatever they called, those with the hardware in the monitor, for 2000$, and that was with a 9200 geforce, 2gb ddr2 of ram 120gb HDD, and 2.2 intel duo i think, one quick at the internet and i can get a rig with a 1tb 7200rpm hdd, 6gb ddr3 kingston, a intel core i7 2,66ghz x 4, an ATI 5870. Heck my laptop costs half the price of the mac and it has better hardware... do i REALLY need to explain any further why i think macs are obsolete?

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]plus i dont kno what i would do with out the option of right clickingkosmosfreak2

You can plug in a typical mouse to a mac and it works I get that.

But seriously you of all people should not be saying anything of the sort "So again this is just an old stereotype from a PC user who never tried a MAC" Everything you have been saying minus the mouse issue is completely off mate.

My gf is very much a mac person (shes gone into communications and so I movie and some of the other programs have helped her) I have experiance with both macs and pcs and especially with windows 7 I still say pc > mac Im not a microsoft fanboy im just against apple and its business practices and policies as well as its markups on inferior hardware.

Mac has its uses and my girlfriend is a prime example of just that. Anyone that goes out and lays down 2 grand on an apple to "use the internet" is a retard.

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]plus i dont kno what i would do with out the option of right clickingstereointegrity

http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=189

Apple.

It just works.

16 years of using a Windows OS, and not once have I gotten a virus. The only time I BSOD is when im overclocking. RPG-Explorer you are the typical mac fanboy. Stating owning a Mac makes you immune to Virus's and other malware is extremely dumb, and just asking to get into trouble.

From Apple themselves, recommending anti-virus programming.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/apple-quietly-recommends-using-anti-virus-software-612

Only reason Macs arent getting annhilated by Virus's is because all 3% of the world population using them makes them a poor market for a Virus. Windows is doing a stelar job of combating Virus's, and other malware.Factor in that MS still supports XP so therefore they need to continue to make sure that their updates dont destroy older users, unlike Apple, which completely shut out PowerPC users, and forced them to upgrade.

[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

RPG-explorer

At the local apple store i can get one of those worktops or whatever they called, those with the hardware in the monitor, for 2000$, and that was with a 9200 geforce, 2gb ddr2 of ram 120gb HDD, and 2.2 intel duo i think, one quick at the internet and i can get a rig with a 1tb 7200rpm hdd, 6gb ddr3 kingston, a intel core i7 2,66ghz x 4, an ATI 5870. Heck my laptop costs half the price of the mac and it has better hardware... do i REALLY need to explain any further why i think macs are obsolete?

3.2 ghz Intel Core Duo processor
4GB DDR3 RAM
1 Terabyte Hard Drive
24 inch screen, resolution 1920x1200
Nvidia GE Force GT 130 512-ram video card
Super drive DVD Burner

You are kidding right? THAT is superior? to what i just listed? Besides, good luck finding that on the danish market with a 2000$ pricetag