I've seen apple computers getting a bad rep here

[QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"]If you really think a Mac is "hack-proof". I am sorry to say, you are misinformed. If you have ever heard about the Pwn2Own Challenge, The Mac has been called the easiest to hack, it has few viruses because of the low market share. http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2917tirralirra

That response made absolutely no sense. Apple doesnt need to make it hack-proof because no one cares enough to attempt to write a Virus on Mac, because it wont effect enough users.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9072959/Mac_easiest_to_hack_says_10_000_winner?taxonomyId=89&intsrc=kc_top&taxonomyName=operating_systems

If you have no idea what you are talking about its best to keep your mouth shut, or in this case refrain from hitting the submit button.

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"][QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

At the local apple store i can get one of those worktops or whatever they called, those with the hardware in the monitor, for 2000$, and that was with a 9200 geforce, 2gb ddr2 of ram 120gb HDD, and 2.2 intel duo i think, one quick at the internet and i can get a rig with a 1tb 7200rpm hdd, 6gb ddr3 kingston, a intel core i7 2,66ghz x 4, an ATI 5870. Heck my laptop costs half the price of the mac and it has better hardware... do i REALLY need to explain any further why i think macs are obsolete?

DoomZaW

3.2 ghz Intel Core Duo processor
4GB DDR3 RAM
1 Terabyte Hard Drive
24 inch screen, resolution 1920x1200
Nvidia GE Force GT 130 512-ram video card
Super drive DVD Burner

You are kidding right? THAT is superior? to what i just listed? Besides, good luck finding that on the danish market with a 2000$ pricetag

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"]If you really think a Mac is "hack-proof". I am sorry to say, you are misinformed. If you have ever heard about the Pwn2Own Challenge, The Mac has been called the easiest to hack, it has few viruses because of the low market share. http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2917Fizzman

That response made absolutely no sense. Apple doesnt need to make it hack-proof because no one cares enough to attempt to write a Virus on Mac, because it wont effect enough users.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9072959/Mac_easiest_to_hack_says_10_000_winner?taxonomyId=89&intsrc=kc_top&taxonomyName=operating_systems

If you have no idea what you are talking about its best to keep your mouth shut, or in this case refrain from hitting the submit button.

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

Ragnarok1051

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"]If you really think a Mac is "hack-proof". I am sorry to say, you are misinformed. If you have ever heard about the Pwn2Own Challenge, The Mac has been called the easiest to hack, it has few viruses because of the low market share. http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2917tirralirra

Your bad english is not something anyone should ever get on to you about. However.

To say that apples dont need to be hack proof just because apple does not need to make them hack proof is bad.

Your logic is like saying.

There are 100 white people and 3 black people in a room. 10 of the white people get sick and only 2 of the black people get sick.. but its still clearly a white person sickness because more white people got sick than black. (not having anything to do with race just an example)

This annalogy provided to those that do not grasp an understanding of the term "low market share"

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="tirralirra"] Mac is easiest to hack because Apple don't need to make it hack-proof whereas MS need to make windows as hack-proof as possible and it still gets hacked loads.tirralirra

That response made absolutely no sense. Apple doesnt need to make it hack-proof because no one cares enough to attempt to write a Virus on Mac, because it wont effect enough users.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9072959/Mac_easiest_to_hack_says_10_000_winner?taxonomyId=89&intsrc=kc_top&taxonomyName=operating_systems

If you have no idea what you are talking about its best to keep your mouth shut, or in this case refrain from hitting the submit button.

umm no you implied that MS deliberately tries to make its OS less easy to exploit, but they fail. Apple on the other hand doesnt have to because its somehow special, and It doesnt have to do anything and it wont get hacked. Clearly thats a very wrong, and horribly misinformed idea.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

Zero_epyon

My computer costed me 1800.00 to build, and now lets see you put all the parts in my PC or equivelent from Apple because Apple only lets you put certain parts in a computer. If your total comes out to 1800.00 I will buy a Mac right now, and post pics on SW.

Look this is an age old battle, but the truth is Apples market share has increased over the past 5 years because, not only are people seeing that MAC's are more aesthetically pleasing to the eye but there also easier to use, and are not bogged down with gigs worth of useless software such as spyware and antivirus. PC users today consist of either business men and women who are forced to use PC's because there isn't yet an Apple equivalent program available, or the other type of PC user who has just been using PC's so long and so blindly there afraid of trying anything else. Some you to will realize the truth about which is better...it's just a matter of time. RPG-explorer

Yeah dude totally guess how many years that prophecy has been said by Linux users? At Mac's current pace they will be the dominant OS in the year 2400. MS isnt going anywhere, and Windows will be the dominant OS well after we are dead based on current trends. Keep on touting the Mac fanboy company line, whatever lets you sleep at night.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

That response made absolutely no sense. Apple doesnt need to make it hack-proof because no one cares enough to attempt to write a Virus on Mac, because it wont effect enough users.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9072959/Mac_easiest_to_hack_says_10_000_winner?taxonomyId=89&intsrc=kc_top&taxonomyName=operating_systems

If you have no idea what you are talking about its best to keep your mouth shut, or in this case refrain from hitting the submit button.

Fizzman

umm no you implied that MS deliberately tries to make its OS less easy to exploit, but they fail. Apple on the other hand doesnt have to because its somehow special, and It doesnt have to do anything and it wont get hacked. Clearly thats a very wrong, and horribly misinformed idea.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

Zero_epyon

check my previous post and say that again

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"]Look this is an age old battle, but the truth is Apples market share has increased over the past 5 years because, not only are people seeing that MAC's are more aesthetically pleasing to the eye but there also easier to use, and are not bogged down with gigs worth of useless software such as spyware and antivirus. PC users today consist of either business men and women who are forced to use PC's because there isn't yet an Apple equivalent program available, or the other type of PC user who has just been using PC's so long and so blindly there afraid of trying anything else. Some you to will realize the truth about which is better...it's just a matter of time. Fizzman

Yeah dude totally guess how many years that prophecy has been said by Linux users? At Mac's current pace they will be the dominant OS in the year 2400. MS isnt going anywhere, and Windows will be the dominant OS well after we are dead based on current trends. Keep on touting the Mac fanboy company line, whatever lets you sleep at night.

Look this is an age old battle, but the truth is Apples market share has increased over the past 5 years because, not only are people seeing that MAC's are more aesthetically pleasing to the eye but there also easier to use, and are not bogged down with gigs worth of useless software such as spyware and antivirus. PC users today consist of either business men and women who are forced to use PC's because there isn't yet an Apple equivalent program available, or the other type of PC user who has just been using PC's so long and so blindly there afraid of trying anything else. Some you to will realize the truth about which is better...it's just a matter of time. RPG-explorer

No apples market share has increased over the past few years because of ingenious advertising campaigns.

Thats one end I gotta admit apple beats the hell out of microsoft. Microsoft cannot compete with how great of a marketing division apple has.

I mean.. without ever saying that apple is immune to viruses... they have you hook line and sinker beleiving they are with the power of suggestion.

again.. they never say apples are immune. They just suggest it to the point that when the advertisement says "less" you think "none"

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

kolkov01

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"]Look this is an age old battle, but the truth is Apples market share has increased over the past 5 years because, not only are people seeing that MAC's are more aesthetically pleasing to the eye but there also easier to use, and are not bogged down with gigs worth of useless software such as spyware and antivirus. PC users today consist of either business men and women who are forced to use PC's because there isn't yet an Apple equivalent program available, or the other type of PC user who has just been using PC's so long and so blindly there afraid of trying anything else. Some you to will realize the truth about which is better...it's just a matter of time. stereointegrity

Funny story more people use Microsoft Office, and MS had to go out of there way and make Office Mac compatible because IWork is a joke, and no serious business person would use Iwork for spreadsheets, or basic document use such as Word.

Look this is an age old battle, but the truth is Apples market share has increased over the past 5 years because, not only are people seeing that MAC's are more aesthetically pleasing to the eye but there also easier to use, and are not bogged down with gigs worth of useless software such as spyware and antivirus. PC users today consist of either business men and women who are forced to use PC's because there isn't yet an Apple equivalent program available, or the other type of PC user who has just been using PC's so long and so blindly there afraid of trying anything else. Some you to will realize the truth about which is better...it's just a matter of time. RPG-explorer

Apple's marketshare has fallen off since the Windows 7 launch, just as their marketing campaign has as well.They have dropped from almost10% in 2006back to almost 6%.

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="RPG-explorer"]Look this is an age old battle, but the truth is Apples market share has increased over the past 5 years because, not only are people seeing that MAC's are more aesthetically pleasing to the eye but there also easier to use, and are not bogged down with gigs worth of useless software such as spyware and antivirus. PC users today consist of either business men and women who are forced to use PC's because there isn't yet an Apple equivalent program available, or the other type of PC user who has just been using PC's so long and so blindly there afraid of trying anything else. Some you to will realize the truth about which is better...it's just a matter of time. Fizzman

Funny story more people use Microsoft Office, and MS had to go out of there way and make Office Mac compatible because IWork is a joke, and no serious business person would use Iwork for spreadsheets, or basic document use such as Word.

Definitely true. Apple computers are WAY overpriced for what you get.kittyloaf69

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]Definitely true. Apple computers are WAY overpriced for what you get.stereointegrity

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]Definitely true. Apple computers are WAY overpriced for what you get.stereointegrity

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]Definitely true. Apple computers are WAY overpriced for what you get.stereointegrity

Windows 7 Ultimate cost me $10 and I got a copy of Professional upgrade for $30.

But my whole stance on the PC vs Apple issue is this: I used to have a Macbook Pro that I got a couple years ago, but my screen just randomyl died one day, my warranty was up, and apple wanted something ridiculous like $700 to fix it, which i opted not to do because that's BS. I loved my macbook though, especially since I already had a gaming PC. So my final stance is this..if I were to get a laptop, I would get a MAc, if I were to get a Desktop, then it would be a PC.kittyloaf69

But my whole stance on the PC vs Apple issue is this: I used to have a Macbook Pro that I got a couple years ago, but my screen just randomyl died one day, my warranty was up, and apple wanted something ridiculous like $700 to fix it, which i opted not to do because that's BS. I loved my macbook though, especially since I already had a gaming PC. So my final stance is this..if I were to get a laptop, I would get a MAc, if I were to get a Desktop, then it would be a PC.kittyloaf69

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]Definitely true. Apple computers are WAY overpriced for what you get.tempest91

Windows 7 Ultimate cost me $10 and I got a copy of Professional upgrade for $30.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]hahahahahaha good way to pass ur opinion off as anything factual....PC is only used for business people? wtf haha pc bogged down with anti virus? pc users cant find mac equivalent programs?tirralirra

Funny story more people use Microsoft Office, and MS had to go out of there way and make Office Mac compatible because IWork is a joke, and no serious business person would use Iwork for spreadsheets, or basic document use such as Word.

not really im just making a point to RPG explorer's delusional idea that the only reason Windows is dominant because there isnt a mac version. Mac's are not used in any large scale business. I honestly dont think there is a single company on Earth which uses exclusively Macs as there Computer/OS of choice. Im not talking about small businsses, before any idiot tries to jump down my throat.

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]But my whole stance on the PC vs Apple issue is this: I used to have a Macbook Pro that I got a couple years ago, but my screen just randomyl died one day, my warranty was up, and apple wanted something ridiculous like $700 to fix it, which i opted not to do because that's BS. I loved my macbook though, especially since I already had a gaming PC. So my final stance is this..if I were to get a laptop, I would get a MAc, if I were to get a Desktop, then it would be a PC.RPG-explorer

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]Definitely true. Apple computers are WAY overpriced for what you get.tirralirra

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

kolkov01

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]Definitely true. Apple computers are WAY overpriced for what you get.tempest91

Windows 7 Ultimate cost me $10 and I got a copy of Professional upgrade for $30.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]the only thing not overpriced is there OS.....snow leopard was like 60 bucks while W7 cost me a pretty pennyRPG-explorer

ok you are definitely trolling at this point. Not even the most die-hard Steve Jobs loving maniac would make such absurd statements.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]the only thing not overpriced is there OS.....snow leopard was like 60 bucks while W7 cost me a pretty pennyRPG-explorer

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]the only thing not overpriced is there OS.....snow leopard was like 60 bucks while W7 cost me a pretty pennyRPG-explorer

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Funny story more people use Microsoft Office, and MS had to go out of there way and make Office Mac compatible because IWork is a joke, and no serious business person would use Iwork for spreadsheets, or basic document use such as Word.

Fizzman

not really im just making a point to RPG explorer's delusional idea that the only reason Windows is dominant because there isnt a mac version. Mac's are not used in any large scale business. I honestly dont think there is a single company on Earth which uses exclusively Macs as there Computer/OS of choice. Im not talking about small businsses, before any idiot tries to jump down my throat.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]the only thing not overpriced is there OS.....snow leopard was like 60 bucks while W7 cost me a pretty pennyRPG-explorer

Rofl

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"][QUOTE="tirralirra"] I believe most of Macs OS are built up from the old ones whereas W7 was developed from the ground up. I'm not sure so anyone can correct me on this. oh and W7 beats Snow Leopard so MS wins the OS round this time.C-is-for-Cookie

Oh, and at mac fanboy comment about an article.

An article is just another opinion, no different to mine. If you wanted to be objective, you could have said something like evidence from tom's hardware at least.

Wait, hardware...hardware...yeah that place doesn't test software does it?

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"]But my whole stance on the PC vs Apple issue is this: I used to have a Macbook Pro that I got a couple years ago, but my screen just randomyl died one day, my warranty was up, and apple wanted something ridiculous like $700 to fix it, which i opted not to do because that's BS. I loved my macbook though, especially since I already had a gaming PC. So my final stance is this..if I were to get a laptop, I would get a MAc, if I were to get a Desktop, then it would be a PC.tirralirra

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="tirralirra"] Irony? Mac normally recommended as specialist software PCs. The fact that there is a demand for a better word processor on Macs hints at a lot.tirralirra

not really im just making a point to RPG explorer's delusional idea that the only reason Windows is dominant because there isnt a mac version. Mac's are not used in any large scale business. I honestly dont think there is a single company on Earth which uses exclusively Macs as there Computer/OS of choice. Im not talking about small businsses, before any idiot tries to jump down my throat.

Im gonna go ahead, and not trust you because this question is based on so many hypothetical "what if's" that its not even worth discussing any further. You would have to make Mac's more secure in the office place, blah blah blah just so many things would have to change for your idea to somewhat believable.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]the only thing not overpriced is there OS.....snow leopard was like 60 bucks while W7 cost me a pretty pennytirralirra

Windows 7 Ultimate cost me $10 and I got a copy of Professional upgrade for $30.

You can get it for $30 if you are any kind of student, and they give many people involved in IT or the software industry free or nearly free copies. Mine cost $10 for personal use.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="tirralirra"] Irony? Mac normally recommended as specialist software PCs. The fact that there is a demand for a better word processor on Macs hints at a lot.tirralirra

not really im just making a point to RPG explorer's delusional idea that the only reason Windows is dominant because there isnt a mac version. Mac's are not used in any large scale business. I honestly dont think there is a single company on Earth which uses exclusively Macs as there Computer/OS of choice. Im not talking about small businsses, before any idiot tries to jump down my throat.

If apple gave companies a 30% mass purchase discount and pcs were each set at retail price... Most companies.. would still use pcs because of cost.

One of the thing that pisses me off is our state is having budget issues and many of the classes at my college had to be dropped because of lack of funding.

Yet one of our computer labs is filled with Imacs... And all I could think to myself was.. no wonder were having budget problems.

[QUOTE="RPG-explorer"][QUOTE="tirralirra"] I believe most of Macs OS are built up from the old ones whereas W7 was developed from the ground up. I'm not sure so anyone can correct me on this. oh and W7 beats Snow Leopard so MS wins the OS round this time.Fizzman

ok you are definitely trolling at this point. Not even the most die-hard Steve Jobs loving maniac would make such absurd statements.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

not really im just making a point to RPG explorer's delusional idea that the only reason Windows is dominant because there isnt a mac version. Mac's are not used in any large scale business. I honestly dont think there is a single company on Earth which uses exclusively Macs as there Computer/OS of choice. Im not talking about small businsses, before any idiot tries to jump down my throat.

Fizzman

Im gonna go ahead, and not trust you because this question is based on so many hypothetical "what if's" that its not even worth discussing any further. You would have to make Mac's more secure in the office place, blah blah blah just so many things would have to change for your idea to somewhat believable.