Iwata: Not Every 3DS Game Has to be 3D

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Satoru Iwata has recently confirmed in a recent investors meeting that Nintendo is looking into developing 3DS games that do not utilize the 3D capabilities of the handheld, and are instead developed keeping the handheld's other unique capabilities, like the gyroscope and accelerometer, the cameras, the augmented reality capabilities and the microphone, in mind.

"I think there could be a Nintendo 3DS software title which does not use the 3D feature at all, and I believe Nintendo will develop such software," he said. "Instead, other features of the Nintendo 3DS should be focused on. It might be a communication feature, or other functions (such as the gyro sensor or the motion sensor). The important thing is that each respective software title has its own characteristics, and appeals to the consumers in a way that fits the software. So I am not worried in a way like, 'The value of the Nintendo 3DS will decrease when the novelty of 3D wears off.'"

It is important to note that nowhere does he say that 3D is a gimmick, or that it will be ditched entirely. He is just saying that not every titleneedsto have 3D, that shoehorning 3D into games that have no need for it can only propagate the perception that 3D is a cheap visual gimmick.

It will be interesting to see what kind of titles Nintendo looks to develop when they make gameswithout3D. No doubt we can expect them to utilize the 3DS's capabilities in some previously unconsidered manner.

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It's nice to know that Nintendo will not be shoehorning 3D into every game. It's neat sometimes, and might even be useful in some games (the upcoming Mario game looks like it might utilize it properly), but other times, it is just a distraction.

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Will non 3D cost less? Cuz ppl buy 3DS's for a reason.
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Will non 3D cost less? Cuz ppl buy 3DS's for a reason.silversix_
It's only the games that will be non 3D. The system itself will continue to be 3D.
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Nintendo have turned into such a half arsed company... you would expect all the games for a 3D system to support its 3D features, they seem to be thumbeling with gimmicks while losing focus on the market leading software that made them.

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Nintendo have turned into such a half arsed company... you would expect all the games for a 3D system to support its 3D features, they seem to be thumbeling with gimmicks while losing focus on the market leading software that made them.

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How is this bad when people peg down the 3D in almost every game?
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Nintendo have turned into such a half arsed company... you would expect all the games for a 3D system to support its 3D features, they seem to be thumbeling with gimmicks while losing focus on the market leading software that made them.

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No, they seem to understand that shoehorning 3D into every game will hurt some games. Like how shoehorning motion controls into some games was detrimental to the experience. What's half assed about that?
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Nintendo have turned into such a half arsed company... you would expect all the games for a 3D system to support its 3D features, they seem to be thumbeling with gimmicks while losing focus on the market leading software that made them.

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I can agree with most of this. If they were going to do this then they shouldn't have inmplemented 3d in the first place, then they could have focused on the power of the console instead. This is one of those things that they should have avoided saying and, in future, avoid putting into play, at least not with first party games; that is just lazy.
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3D proved to be useless for most people and for your battery's life but what is 3DS if not for 3D?
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3D proved to be useless for most people and for your battery's life but what is 3DS if not for 3D?abuabed
A much more powerful system than the original DS with loads of new features?
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#10 WilliamRLBaker
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So what exactly is the point of even having it as a built in premium forefront feature?

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3D proved to be useless for most people and for your battery's life but what is 3DS if not for 3D?abuabed

A piece of hardware, with a useless, and costly feature built in, at the loss of better hardware.

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I bet the heavy hitters will mostly be classic franchises, none of which will be particularly enhanced by 3D.

Just like the Wii-mote did little/nothing to improve games like SMG and TP.

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[QUOTE="abuabed"]3D proved to be useless for most people and for your battery's life but what is 3DS if not for 3D?-Snooze-

A piece of hardware, with a useless, and costly feature built in, at the loss of better hardware.

agreed I wish they had ignored Pseudo 3d and just given us an amazingly powerful high battery life portable...

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the problem with that is that nintendo advertised and marketed heavily based on the whole 3D fad! some ppl who dont know any better buy it on the whole 3D thing alone and are probably disappointed when they find out not all games are 3D. another thing is, alot of ppl think 3D is a gimmick and dont want to invest in a "3D" system (me included). I think nintendo naming it the "3DS" sounds clever, but in reality it's probably only hurting them. i know alot of casuals who completely ignore the 3DS because they said "oh i already have a ds, i dont need a 3D" once. yes you read that right, i know alot of casuals who have said such things and i dont blame them since they dont know any better. what im trying to say is all the decisions that went into the 3DS' marketing was not thoroughly thought out.

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[QUOTE="silversix_"]Will non 3D cost less? Cuz ppl buy 3DS's for a reason.charizard1605
It's only the games that will be non 3D. The system itself will continue to be 3D.

That's what i wanted to know. Will a non 3D game cost less or same price.

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maybe by not implementing 3D will speed up development time for games
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I don't care if a game has 3D or not since i never use it 3D is such a worthless gimmick.

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So what exactly is the point of even having it as a built in premium forefront feature?

WilliamRLBaker

The same as advertising 1080p to Hell and back on consoles then letting developers render their games at 540p? :P

The power's there. It's the developer's choice to use it or re-direct it towards some other purpose. Difference is that the 3DS is a handheld and you're pretty much forced to buy the 3DTV along with the system unlike buying an HDTV for a console. Would it have been better to make two 3DS models? Probably not. It'd totally mess up marketing and costs would probably be higher to the point where the 2D model would be almost as expensive as the 3D model we have right now.

Speaking of prices though, I'm sure you've heard the 3DS' price is going down to the point that Nintendo's taking a loss on a per-unit basis. I'm not sure you'll be able to complain about having to pay for a feature you can't use soon. :P Just pretend they're taking the cut on including the 3D screen.

No, they seem to understand that shoehorning 3D into every game will hurt some games. Like how shoehorning motion controls into some games was detrimental to the experience. What's half assed about that?

charizard1605

I wonder how you could shoehorn 3D into touch screen-centric games like Ouendan and Trauma Center in the first place. :P

That's what i wanted to know. Will a non 3D game cost less or same price.

silversix_

That's completely up to the publisher. Epic's going to release Gears of War 3 which looks absolutely stunning for $60. Activision's releasing Modern Warfare 3 also for $60.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

So what exactly is the point of even having it as a built in premium forefront feature?

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The same as advertising 1080p to Hell and back on consoles then letting developers render their games at 540p? :P

The power's there. It's the developer's choice to use it or re-direct it towards some other purpose. Difference is that the 3DS is a handheld and you're pretty much forced to buy the 3DTV along with the system unlike buying an HDTV for a console. Would it have been better to make two 3DS models? Probably not. It'd totally mess up marketing and costs would probably be higher to the point where the 2D model would be almost as expensive as the 3D model we have right now.

Speaking of prices though, I'm sure you've heard the 3DS' price is going down to the point that Nintendo's taking a loss on a per-unit basis. I'm not sure you'll be able to complain about having to pay for a feature you can't use soon. :P Just pretend they're taking the cut on including the 3D screen.

HD doesn't give people headaches, eye strain and nausea first off. 2nd HD wasn't the only forefront feature of the consoles...Pseudo 3d pretty much is the only forefront feature of the 3ds..hence why its called the 3ds. there are quite a few more games on the hd consoles that run in hd...3ds? once the system is old enough we will see a severe severe minority of Pseudo 3d games on it compared to the regular games, Nigh I believe half way through the 3ds life cycle once they start shrinking it they will remove all Pseudo 3d capabilities.

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3D was a poor gimmick to build the system around, I don't use it and neither does anyone else I know. I'd swap the 3D for more hardware power.
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They shouldn't of named it 3DS, that is quite possibly the worst possible name for this handheld.

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Sounds like Wii games that doesn't make good use of motion controls. Some of those were good.

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Will non 3D cost less? Cuz ppl buy 3DS's for a reason.silversix_
If I ever buy a 3DS, it definitely wont be because of the 3D gimmick. It'll be for quality titles like Mega Man Legends 3.. oh wait..
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That's like saying 'not every Kinect game have to be motion controlled.' Then what's the point of having it?

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That's like saying 'not every Kinect game have to be motion controlled.' Then what's the point of having it?

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For the 3DS's case, to play new games for the new system. It's more acceptable for the 3DS to have an option when it comes to 3D.

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Wonder if non 3d games will be cheaper? Doubt it.
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How nice -_-

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[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

So what exactly is the point of even having it as a built in premium forefront feature?

WilliamRLBaker

The same as advertising 1080p to Hell and back on consoles then letting developers render their games at 540p? :P

The power's there. It's the developer's choice to use it or re-direct it towards some other purpose. Difference is that the 3DS is a handheld and you're pretty much forced to buy the 3DTV along with the system unlike buying an HDTV for a console. Would it have been better to make two 3DS models? Probably not. It'd totally mess up marketing and costs would probably be higher to the point where the 2D model would be almost as expensive as the 3D model we have right now.

Speaking of prices though, I'm sure you've heard the 3DS' price is going down to the point that Nintendo's taking a loss on a per-unit basis. I'm not sure you'll be able to complain about having to pay for a feature you can't use soon. :P Just pretend they're taking the cut on including the 3D screen.

1. HD doesn't give people headaches, eye strain and nausea first off.

2nd HD wasn't the only forefront feature of the consoles...Pseudo 3d pretty much is the only forefront feature of the 3ds..hence why its called the 3ds. there are quite a few more games on the hd consoles that run in hd...3ds? once the system is old enough we will see a severe severe minority of Pseudo 3d games on it compared to the regular games, Nigh I believe half way through the 3ds life cycle once they start shrinking it they will remove all Pseudo 3d capabilities.

1.Hence the red part. I'm aware you're a part of that 5% (or whatever it was) that can't vew 3D for whatever reason. Hell, I think your involvement in various 3DS threads and mentioning your issues with 3D have made you (in)famous. :P

Actual argument: The 3DS doesn't break people's bank accounts like HDTV's did at the start of this gen. :P As I said, the 3DS is going for dirt cheap soon. I don't think you can complain about including a 3D screen. If you don't want to use it or can't use it, there's everything else.

By August 12, your complaint about your disability will be less effective than a blind person's complaint about not being able to drive to work at a call center 10 miles away. You don't have to use the 3D to enjoy 3DS games unlike the poor sap who can't get to work without extreme assistance, let alone play video games so complaining that you're being left out won't work.

I also can't stress enough that the 3D's a part of a package and the costs are being assumed by Nintendo. The only step further they could take is to give $30 dollars to anyone who submits proof that they can't see 3D because they can't use the bonus that came with the package. Are you willing to pay for an eye exam that'd likely cost more than $30 dollars? Probably not. Besides, if they were to give $30 or even more when they're already taking a loss, you could sell your 3DS to someone else right afterwards as a system that's practically new, making yourself money. Nintendo's a business. They aren't going to let that happen.

Rest: The 360 and PS3 don't have forefront features. They simply have features that are improvements over previous iterations.

I'm sure the 3DS could've been called something else, but out of being clever with the naming, decided to keep it in line with the Nintendo Dual Screen's obvious name philosophy by calling it the Nintendo 3D Screen. It's a handheld. The screens are what make it different from console gaming, portability aside (but lets not copy our competitor by calling it the something portable because that'd be so lame on two levels, shall we?). Why not name the handheld by its feature?

As for 3DS games potentially not using the 3D, that bothers me about as much as the majority of DS games not using the touch-screen.

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This is stupid. Its called the 3DS for a reason!
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[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]

Nintendo have turned into such a half arsed company... you would expect all the games for a 3D system to support its 3D features, they seem to be thumbeling with gimmicks while losing focus on the market leading software that made them.

charizard1605
No, they seem to understand that shoehorning 3D into every game will hurt some games. Like how shoehorning motion controls into some games was detrimental to the experience. What's half assed about that?

How could 3D possibly detrimental to the experience of any game?
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Then what was the damn point of the whole 3D part of the 3DS?

Makes no sense to me.

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Man it just keeps looking worse and worse for the 3DS

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I personally think they should just drop 3D all together. It's not really that useful, it makes system cost more to make (and thus cost more to buy), and gives you headaches and eye strain.

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I personally think they should just drop 3D all together. It's not really that useful, it makes system cost more to make (and thus cost more to buy), and gives you headaches and eye strain.

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Do you own a 3DS? The 3D is great. Dropping it would be like dropping HD from the Xbox 360.
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people are upset not every game is 3d on the 3ds? lol and its the ones that dont even have one thats complaining gotta love system wars.

the 3ds does not only do 3d but iwata thats a smart move dont overcoat the whole 3d thing thats like saying every wii game have to be motion based its silly whoever believes this

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This has been known for a while, and no announced game is confirmed not to have 3D. No reason to hate.
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

I personally think they should just drop 3D all together. It's not really that useful, it makes system cost more to make (and thus cost more to buy), and gives you headaches and eye strain.

PurpleMan5000

Do you own a 3DS? The 3D is great. Dropping it would be like dropping HD from the Xbox 360.

I do own one and don't care for it (the 3D), it hurts my eyes after just a few minutes.

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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

I personally think they should just drop 3D all together. It's not really that useful, it makes system cost more to make (and thus cost more to buy), and gives you headaches and eye strain.

PurpleMan5000

Do you own a 3DS? The 3D is great. Dropping it would be like dropping HD from the Xbox 360.

of course he doesnt people that say it gives them headache an eye strain are usually the ones that dont have it. it barely gives anybody headache or eye strain and i let alot of people play my 3ds

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="abuabed"]3D proved to be useless for most people and for your battery's life but what is 3DS if not for 3D?WilliamRLBaker

A piece of hardware, with a useless, and costly feature built in, at the loss of better hardware.

agreed I wish they had ignored Pseudo 3d and just given us an amazingly powerful high battery life portable...

You'll like the Vita then :P Or should i not bother going there with you?
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[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

I personally think they should just drop 3D all together. It's not really that useful, it makes system cost more to make (and thus cost more to buy), and gives you headaches and eye strain.

StealthMonkey4

Do you own a 3DS? The 3D is great. Dropping it would be like dropping HD from the Xbox 360.

I do own one and don't care for it (the 3D), it hurts my eyes after just a few minutes.

You can turn the 3D off and get the same effect as if the game were made without the 3D. It (the 3D) doesn't bother my eyes, and I would personally like it if every game continued to use the 3D.
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#41 JohnF111
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Then what was the damn point of the whole 3D part of the 3DS?

Makes no sense to me.

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I know it's like Nintendo are admitting to their silly decision, i think they had the Sony hat on that day "If it's Nintendo people will buy it in truckloads, they'll sell their kids to get our latest hardware!!" and it bit them right in the rump.
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#42 Morrdecai
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people are upset not every game is 3d on the 3ds? lol and its the ones that dont even have one thats complaining gotta love system wars.

the 3ds does not only do 3d but iwata thats a smart move dont overcoat the whole 3d thing thats like saying every wii game have to be motion based its silly whoever believes this

Mario1331
The system is called the "3DS" and has been marketed as being a 3D system. Its stupid to then start selling games which don't have any 3D features at all.
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[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

I personally think they should just drop 3D all together. It's not really that useful, it makes system cost more to make (and thus cost more to buy), and gives you headaches and eye strain.

Mario1331

Do you own a 3DS? The 3D is great. Dropping it would be like dropping HD from the Xbox 360.

of course he doesnt people that say it gives them headache an eye strain are usually the ones that dont have it. it barely gives anybody headache or eye strain and i let alot of people play my 3ds

So you're accussing me of lying?:| I, and many others, do get eye strain from 3D.

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#44 Mr-Espresso
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Am I the only person that does not get affected by Eye Strain and Headaches of the 3DS? I'm more prone to getting both of those things due to my eyes but every time that I have played the 3DS I have never had a problem with Headaches and Eye Strain with playing over a long period of time.

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#45 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

people are upset not every game is 3d on the 3ds? lol and its the ones that dont even have one thats complaining gotta love system wars.

the 3ds does not only do 3d but iwata thats a smart move dont overcoat the whole 3d thing thats like saying every wii game have to be motion based its silly whoever believes this

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The system is called the "3DS" and has been marketed as being a 3D system. Its stupid to then start selling games which don't have any 3D features at all.

No? Since it's such a cheap gimmick then what's the big deal about not using it?
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#46 PurpleMan5000
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Am I the only person that does not get affected by Eye Strain and Headaches of the 3DS? I'm more prone to getting both of those things due to my eyes but every time that I have played the 3DS I have never had a problem with Headaches and Eye Strain with playing over a long period of time.

Mr-Espresso
No, the overwhelming majority of people have no problems with 3D.
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#47 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

people are upset not every game is 3d on the 3ds? lol and its the ones that dont even have one thats complaining gotta love system wars.

the 3ds does not only do 3d but iwata thats a smart move dont overcoat the whole 3d thing thats like saying every wii game have to be motion based its silly whoever believes this

Morrdecai

The system is called the "3DS" and has been marketed as being a 3D system. Its stupid to then start selling games which don't have any 3D features at all.

so what so we have to force every game 3d? the system is still 3d just not every game how do you know every game is going to be good 3d? that doesnt make any sense what so ever

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#48 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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Then what was the damn point of the whole 3D part of the 3DS?

Makes no sense to me.

Wasdie

The same as the DS part of the DS when 1% of the games used the touch-screen for something more meaningful than a lame mini-game? :P

This is stupid. Its called the 3DS for a reason!Morrdecai

Enforcing a 3D rule would be as stupid as enforcing a 720p rule on consoles, if not even more stupid.

Not all games could use 3D. Should we abolish them from the system entirely when they could be giving us money from licencing fees? Why are we complaining about getting games in the first place!? :P

Am I the only person that does not get affected by Eye Strain and Headaches of the 3DS? I'm more prone to getting both of those things due to my eyes but every time that I have played the 3DS I have never had a problem with Headaches and Eye Strain with playing over a long period of time.

Mr-Espresso

Nope. :P

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Wow, I need to lay off the :P's

:P Wait, Goddamnit! :evil:

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#49 Morrdecai
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[QUOTE="Morrdecai"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

people are upset not every game is 3d on the 3ds? lol and its the ones that dont even have one thats complaining gotta love system wars.

the 3ds does not only do 3d but iwata thats a smart move dont overcoat the whole 3d thing thats like saying every wii game have to be motion based its silly whoever believes this

OreoMilkshake
The system is called the "3DS" and has been marketed as being a 3D system. Its stupid to then start selling games which don't have any 3D features at all.

No? Since it's such a cheap gimmick then what's the big deal about not using it?

If the main focus of the marketing is on the 3D aspect of the system, then why would they start making games that don't utilize the 3D abilities of the console? And besides, whats a cheap gimmick to you is a great feature to someone else Just going in circles here.....
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#50 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] Do you own a 3DS? The 3D is great. Dropping it would be like dropping HD from the Xbox 360.StealthMonkey4

of course he doesnt people that say it gives them headache an eye strain are usually the ones that dont have it. it barely gives anybody headache or eye strain and i let alot of people play my 3ds

So you're accussing me of lying?:| I, and many others, do get eye strain from 3D.

i didnt say your lying im just saying the people who dont have one usually say they suffer from eye strain when i give it to many others and they have no problems with it.

there are people that suffer from it though(judging from here and articles) but nothing like turning the 3d down wont fix