Iwata: Not Every 3DS Game Has to be 3D

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#51 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

A piece of hardware, with a useless, and costly feature built in, at the loss of better hardware.

JohnF111

agreed I wish they had ignored Pseudo 3d and just given us an amazingly powerful high battery life portable...

You'll like the Vita then :P Or should i not bother going there with you?

the vita and 3ds have the same battery life well similar

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#52 Nozizaki
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Third Parties have already done this with games that focus on the Gyro-Scope completely disable the 3D, ei. Cubic Ninja, Super Monkey Ball, etc.
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#53 Mario1331
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Am I the only person that does not get affected by Eye Strain and Headaches of the 3DS? I'm more prone to getting both of those things due to my eyes but every time that I have played the 3DS I have never had a problem with Headaches and Eye Strain with playing over a long period of time.

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peopel use that as a negative but its usually only here 95% of the world dont get eye strains or whatever they're an elite group or something

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#54 millerlight89
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95% of the world dont get eye strains or whatever they're an elite group or something

Mario1331

You have some proof for this?

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#55 JohnF111
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agreed I wish they had ignored Pseudo 3d and just given us an amazingly powerful high battery life portable...

the vita and 3ds have the same battery life well similar

Mario1331

Oh you know this, you have a Vita? I'll give you $10,000 for your Vita since you know so much!

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#56 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]95% of the world dont get eye strains or whatever they're an elite group or something

millerlight89

You have some proof for this?

He knows an awful lot doesn't he? :P
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#57 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]95% of the world dont get eye strains or whatever they're an elite group or something

millerlight89

You have some proof for this?

you have proof more get eye strain? because i only said that sinc ei only see here people do.....honestly nowhere else

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#58 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"] agreed I wish they had ignored Pseudo 3d and just given us an amazingly powerful high battery life portable...

the vita and 3ds have the same battery life well similar

JohnF111

Oh you know this, you have a Vita? I'll give you $10,000 for your Vita since you know so much!

To be fair, you don't really know if the Vita has better battery life than the 3DS, either.
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#59 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"] agreed I wish they had ignored Pseudo 3d and just given us an amazingly powerful high battery life portable...

the vita and 3ds have the same battery life well similar

JohnF111

Oh you know this, you have a Vita? I'll give you $10,000 for your Vita since you know so much!

sony stated that its like 5-6 hours which is similar to the 3ds ill look for the article maybe it was a rumor that sony said but you have no proof if its more either

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#60 raskullibur
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2DS is coming baby
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#61 Again_elation
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Well they just removed the $80 premium for the 3D. But this is sad conisdering it's named after that feature.
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#62 Filthybastrd
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So you're accussing me of lying?:| I, and many others, do get eye strain from 3D.

StealthMonkey4

This is off topic but how do you feel about 1080i? 30 Hz gives me eye strain you see, while I'm ok with 3D you see.

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#63 lbjkurono23
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The only 3d effect that impressed me was ocarina of time, hopefully third party devs can step up.
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#64 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"] agreed I wish they had ignored Pseudo 3d and just given us an amazingly powerful high battery life portable...

the vita and 3ds have the same battery life well similar

PurpleMan5000

Oh you know this, you have a Vita? I'll give you $10,000 for your Vita since you know so much!

To be fair, you don't really know if the Vita has better battery life than the 3DS, either.

The difference is i never said it did.
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#65 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"] agreed I wish they had ignored Pseudo 3d and just given us an amazingly powerful high battery life portable...

the vita and 3ds have the same battery life well similar

Mario1331

Oh you know this, you have a Vita? I'll give you $10,000 for your Vita since you know so much!

sony stated that its like 5-6 hours which is similar to the 3ds ill look for the article maybe it was a rumor that sony said but you have no proof if its more either

Im not the one calling it as fact, you are. Big difference!
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#66 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]95% of the world dont get eye strains or whatever they're an elite group or something

Mario1331

You have some proof for this?

you have proof more get eye strain? because i only said that sinc ei only see here people do.....honestly nowhere else

Like I asked, do you have proof of the 95%. If not, don't throw random number around ;)
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#67 hexashadow13
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/inb4 3DS lite for $150 without 3D.
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#68 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] You have some proof for this?

millerlight89

you have proof more get eye strain? because i only said that sinc ei only see here people do.....honestly nowhere else

Like I asked, do you have proof of the 95%. If not, don't throw random number around ;)

the number was not suppose to be taking serious it was an exaggeration of how only here gets eye strains but to be honest you cant tell im wrong or im right and tbh i hihly doubt anymore then 5% gets eye strains the only way to do that though is to count everybody that has a system and ask

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#69 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Oh you know this, you have a Vita? I'll give you $10,000 for your Vita since you know so much!

JohnF111

sony stated that its like 5-6 hours which is similar to the 3ds ill look for the article maybe it was a rumor that sony said but you have no proof if its more either

Im not the one calling it as fact, you are. Big difference!

you just said the vita has a high battery life......:?

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#70 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

you have proof more get eye strain? because i only said that sinc ei only see here people do.....honestly nowhere else

Mario1331

Like I asked, do you have proof of the 95%. If not, don't throw random number around ;)

the number was not suppose to be taking serious it was an exaggeration of how only here gets eye strains but to be honest you cant tell im wrong or im right and tbh i hihly doubt anymore then 5% gets eye strains the only way to do that though is to count everybody that has a system and ask

What about the people who tried the system and decided not to buy it because the eye strain was sickening? Your statement is highly flawed.
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#71 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

sony stated that its like 5-6 hours which is similar to the 3ds ill look for the article maybe it was a rumor that sony said but you have no proof if its more either

Mario1331

Im not the one calling it as fact, you are. Big difference!

you just said the vita has a high battery life......:?

Quote me it, i'd like to see where i say this.
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#72 Again_elation
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Man the 3DS is just bad news after bad news.
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#73 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

you have proof more get eye strain? because i only said that sinc ei only see here people do.....honestly nowhere else

Mario1331

Like I asked, do you have proof of the 95%. If not, don't throw random number around ;)

the number was not suppose to be taking serious it was an exaggeration of how only here gets eye strains but to be honest you cant tell im wrong or im right and tbh i hihly doubt anymore then 5% gets eye strains the only way to do that though is to count everybody that has a system and ask

Throwing around made up numbers for exaggeration doesn't help your argument though. Pretty sure it is higher than 5% though. See I actually have some proof.

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#74 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Like I asked, do you have proof of the 95%. If not, don't throw random number around ;)JohnF111

the number was not suppose to be taking serious it was an exaggeration of how only here gets eye strains but to be honest you cant tell im wrong or im right and tbh i hihly doubt anymore then 5% gets eye strains the only way to do that though is to count everybody that has a system and ask

What about the people who tried the system and decided not to buy it because the eye strain was sickening? Your statement is highly flawed.

thats impossible to ask the only way to get a good estimation is for people to ask the ones who have one....dont you think i know others tried it? theres still no other way to give a good estimation its not flawed just really the only way

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#75 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Like I asked, do you have proof of the 95%. If not, don't throw random number around ;)millerlight89

the number was not suppose to be taking serious it was an exaggeration of how only here gets eye strains but to be honest you cant tell im wrong or im right and tbh i hihly doubt anymore then 5% gets eye strains the only way to do that though is to count everybody that has a system and ask

Throwing around made up numbers for exaggeration doesn't help your argument though. Pretty sure it is higher than 5% though. See I actually have some proof.

ill give you credit for showing me a link but i dont see a number or anything, do you know how much 5% of 4+ million people is? thats alot

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#76 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

the number was not suppose to be taking serious it was an exaggeration of how only here gets eye strains but to be honest you cant tell im wrong or im right and tbh i hihly doubt anymore then 5% gets eye strains the only way to do that though is to count everybody that has a system and ask

Mario1331

Throwing around made up numbers for exaggeration doesn't help your argument though. Pretty sure it is higher than 5% though. See I actually have some proof.

ill give you credit for showing me a link but i dont see a number or anything, do you know how much 5% of 4+ million people is? thats alot

Actually, the article says that according to optometrists, 1 in 4 people experience eye strain from viewing 3D images. That's 25%.
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#77 Nozizaki
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Man the 3DS is just bad news after bad news. Again_elation

This is bad news? :?

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#78 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="Again_elation"]Man the 3DS is just bad news after bad news. Nozizaki

This is bad news? :?

I wouldn't call it good news.
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#79 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="Again_elation"]Man the 3DS is just bad news after bad news. Nozizaki

This is bad news? :?

It's not good news either, a 3d system with 3dless games.
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#80 Again_elation
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It's bad news that the #1 feature is being abandoned.
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#81 Morrdecai
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It's bad news that the #1 feature is being abandoned. Again_elation
Agreed.... shame others don't see it the same way.
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#82 Nozizaki
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[QUOTE="Nozizaki"]

This is bad news? :?

lbjkurono23

It's not good news either, a 3d system with 3dless games.

I find the 3D to be the leasst useful feature. It is the only actual gimmick on any Nintendo system. It is unnecessary and adds very little to the game.

And I've said prior, this is not news at all.

Third Parties have already done this with games that focus on the Gyro-Scope completely disable the 3D, ei. Cubic Ninja, Super Monkey Ball, etc.Nozizaki

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#83 PurpleMan5000
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It's bad news that the #1 feature is being abandoned. Again_elation
It's not being abandoned; it's just not required. There's a big difference.
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#84 Again_elation
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Does this inspire confidence to buy the 3DS? Feels like a sinking ship.
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#85 OreoMilkshake
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It's bad news that the #1 feature is being abandoned. Again_elation
How is it being abandoned?
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#86 PurpleMan5000
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Does this inspire confidence to buy the 3DS? Feels like a sinking ship. Again_elation
It's not that big of a deal. Personally, I think all 3DS games should be in 3D. I also feel like all games on the HD twins should be at least 720p.
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#87 starwarsgeek112
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This isn't bad news at all, it's Nintendo refocusing on how to advertise the 3DS. They put so much effort into showing off the 3D effect that people think that's the only thing the system does. Seeing as how that didnt work, they are now shifting focus on to other features of the system, and I doubt that any game not incoporating the systems other functionality will be 3Dless. Plus any game that heavily focuses on the 3DS' motion capabilities and AR capabilities would be pretty hard to play in 3D.

IF anything this will turn out to be good for the 3DS since it will finally show people that it's a new system with new capabilities and not just a 3D DS.

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#88 SaltyMeatballs
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Old news, I knew this already.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="abuabed"]3D proved to be useless for most people and for your battery's life but what is 3DS if not for 3D?WilliamRLBaker

A piece of hardware, with a useless, and costly feature built in, at the loss of better hardware.

agreed I wish they had ignored Pseudo 3d and just given us an amazingly powerful high battery life portable...

I thought developers could make use of the extra power using non-3D? If they don't support 3D then I'm sure it could benefit graphically.

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Complain about lack of visually impressive features on the Wii, complain about 3d on the DS. Well done everybody. Well done.

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#90 HarlockJC
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3D proved to be useless for most people and for your battery's life but what is 3DS if not for 3D?abuabed
A more powerful DS....Which is not a bad thing
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

the number was not suppose to be taking serious it was an exaggeration of how only here gets eye strains but to be honest you cant tell im wrong or im right and tbh i hihly doubt anymore then 5% gets eye strains the only way to do that though is to count everybody that has a system and ask

Mario1331

Throwing around made up numbers for exaggeration doesn't help your argument though. Pretty sure it is higher than 5% though. See I actually have some proof.

ill give you credit for showing me a link but i dont see a number or anything, do you know how much 5% of 4+ million people is? thats alot

"According to optometrists, one in four people experience eyestrain, become dizzy, or feel ill when viewing 3D images."

That's 25%, five times as much as you claimed....

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Psst, hey Iwata, if you build a machine where the primary function isnt used then whats the point of buying the machine in the first place...
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Psst, hey Iwata, if you build a machine where the primary function isnt used then whats the point of buying the machine in the first place...slvrraven9
It's primary function is to play video games, believe it or not.
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#94 haziqonfire
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This is just Iwata saying that not all games are going to be 3D, as some might serve a better purpose of using other system functionalitieswithout the use of 3D. If you read the latest Iwata asks about Star Fox 64 3D - It seems like they generally don't want to hold back how people experience a game. With 3D, or without 3D, with the gyro sensor controls, or without, with analog controls, or without, etc. I much prefer that then to be confided to using just one thing.

The 3D on the 3D is also optional, I think people often forget this ... you can completely turn it off, which is one of the better features about the device.

He's also not calling it a gimmick, he's stating that once the novelty of the 3D wears off (the initial wow factor), they'll still have the games to draw people into the device. It's the same thing as when the analog stick was first introduced, it was a novelty at one point then that novelty wore off, but it still works just as well

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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]Psst, hey Iwata, if you build a machine where the primary function isnt used then whats the point of buying the machine in the first place...OreoMilkshake
It's primary function is to play video games, believe it or not.

hmm...well cant exactly argue that.
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hd is more of a gimmick then 3d

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#97 lbjkurono23
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hd is more of a gimmick then 3d

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I'd take hd(which actually makes things look better) over 3d.
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#98 Tezcatlipoca666
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I can't believe that this news is surprising to some people. Did you really think that all games would be in 3D?

Wow :?

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#99 ShadowriverUB
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[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]

Nintendo have turned into such a half arsed company... you would expect all the games for a 3D system to support its 3D features, they seem to be thumbeling with gimmicks while losing focus on the market leading software that made them.

charizard1605

No, they seem to understand that shoehorning 3D into every game will hurt some games. Like how shoehorning motion controls into some games was detrimental to the experience. What's half assed about that?

How something that you can turn off is hurting games? :p More reason why not use 3D is to achive better prefermence, redering extra frames for 2nd eye costs some power.

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#100 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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It's bad news that the #1 feature is being abandoned. Again_elation
It's not being abandoned :|