Iwata: Not Every 3DS Game Has to be 3D

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#101 Chris_Williams
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I can't believe that this news is surprising to some people. Did you really think that all games would be in 3D?

Wow :?

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then whats the point in calling the system 3DS, they advertise the 3D features, this is why its different then the DS because it uses 3D, you take that away and its just an DS 2. How could people not think all games wouldn't be in 3D, again 3D is in the freaking title.
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I see no problem with this. You get the exact same experience as you would with the 3D effect turned off, with the exception of a few games made specifically to show off the effect.
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#103 DJ_Headshot
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Nintendo would be better off on the vita it has way more potential for games(dual analog,Multitouchscreen and track pad,sixaxis,etc) letting them use there creativity to there fullest as opposed to the 3D effect which doesn't affect game play. Now I'm sure they will still turn out amazing first party games on the 3ds but even Nintendo realizes 3d is not that big a deal for games as far as game play is concerned and you can't deny the vita has more potential in that aspect and no one takes advantages of a systems unique control methods like Nintendo.

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#104 Again_elation
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How was analog a novelty? It improved gameplay in a 3D space. 3D does NOTHING.
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#105 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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How was analog a novelty? It improved gameplay in a 3D space. 3D does NOTHING. Again_elation
Agreed, which is why it doesn't HAVE to be used in every game. Nintendo recognizes this, so what's the issue?
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How was analog a novelty? It improved gameplay in a 3D space. 3D does NOTHING. Again_elation
It was a novelty when it came out. It was new and different and it had a wow factor. The same can be said about HD and the same will probably be said about the 3D eventually. 3D adds a layer of depth to the field and immerses people into a game unlike anything else on the market. In some games it can actually enhance the gameplay experience like Pilotwings Resort, where the extra depth helps with judgement of momentum, landing, turning, etc. In other games it adds nothing but a nice visual effect, like Ocarina of Time 3D. Ocarina of Time 3D is still a different type experience than Ocarina of Time on the N64 -- because of the 3D effect. You can't find a similar experience elsewhere.
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#107 Arach666
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No? I thought that was the point of the system.
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#108 Mario1331
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A piece of hardware, with a useless, and costly feature built in, at the loss of better hardware.

abuabed

agreed I wish they had ignored Pseudo 3d and just given us an amazingly powerful high battery life portable...

You'll like the Vita then :P Or should i not bother going there with you?

this is what was said your implying the vita has a better battery thus stating what you think factual

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#109 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Throwing around made up numbers for exaggeration doesn't help your argument though. Pretty sure it is higher than 5% though. See I actually have some proof.

PurpleMan5000

ill give you credit for showing me a link but i dont see a number or anything, do you know how much 5% of 4+ million people is? thats alot

Actually, the article says that according to optometrists, 1 in 4 people experience eye strain from viewing 3D images. That's 25%.

i really didnt see that but i wonder off of what basis.....its still impossible to tell even my way would of been flawed

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No? I thought that was the point of the system.Arach666
No, it was just the latest gimmick. The point of the system is to play new games :P
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#111 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Throwing around made up numbers for exaggeration doesn't help your argument though. Pretty sure it is higher than 5% though. See I actually have some proof.

StealthMonkey4

ill give you credit for showing me a link but i dont see a number or anything, do you know how much 5% of 4+ million people is? thats alot

"According to optometrists, one in four people experience eyestrain, become dizzy, or feel ill when viewing 3D images."

That's 25%, five times as much as you claimed....

wow you and this other guy is really taking this 5% thing to the heart. i stated it was an exaggeration nobody could tell who gets headaches or whatever but it seems only here does that was the point. it could be 10,15 or whatever percentage the fact is that a small number gets these eye strains or whatever

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#112 Jelley0
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Some Wii games by Nintendo have tacked on motion control, "Nintendo needs to stop using motion control just for the sake of having it!"

Nintendo decides to not use 3D in situations where not needed, "Wow Nintendo, isn't that like the whole point of the system?"

:roll:

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]No? I thought that was the point of the system.charizard1605
No, it was just the latest gimmick. The point of the system is to play new games :P

Yeah...in 3D. :|

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Arach666"]No? I thought that was the point of the system.Arach666

No, it was just the latest gimmick. The point of the system is to play new games :P

Yeah...in 3D. :|

:P

Looks like you need to get of your throne, PC Royalty, and have a look at the facts up close :P J/k dude. The 3D was just to draw the casuals in, Nintendo had maintained from the beginning that barring platformers, it won't affect gameplay ever. They're just reiterating that stance here.
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#115 Again_elation
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The analog stick is not the same as HD. You cant compare cosmetic differences with elements that actually make thr game better to play. The analog stick is not like HD. Not even close.
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#116 Merex760
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I used the 3D once on my 3DS. I haven't used it since. Useless feature.
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#117 PurpleMan5000
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The analog stick is not the same as HD. You cant compare cosmetic differences with elements that actually make thr game better to play. The analog stick is not like HD. Not even close.Again_elation
Cosmetic differences do make the game better to play, though.
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#118 Morrdecai
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I used the 3D once on my 3DS. I haven't used it since. Useless feature. Merex760
Ouch. Never used a 3DS myself, would like to try one to see how the 3D effect works out.
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This is a true fact. And before anyone says that it will get rid of the one gimmick that 3DS had going for it, might I point out that the 3DS is a HUGE improvement over DS?

DS:

3DS:

There is a pretty clear difference in the power of the two systems.

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The analog stick is not the same as HD. You cant compare cosmetic differences with elements that actually make thr game better to play. The analog stick is not like HD. Not even close.Again_elation

You're not getting the point. A novelty is not the same as a gimmick.A novelty is something new or unfamiliar.

In that regard all three of them (analog, HD graphics and 3D visuals without glasses) are all novelties or were at one point.

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turtlethetaffer

Ugh, not the best choice of Kid Icarus pics.

Much better.

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#122 Arach666
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This is a true fact. And before anyone says that it will get rid of the one gimmick that 3DS had going for it, might I point out that the 3DS is a HUGE improvement over DS?

*pics*

There is a pretty clear difference in the power of the two systems.

turtlethetaffer

So...it´s just about the graphics?

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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

This is a true fact. And before anyone says that it will get rid of the one gimmick that 3DS had going for it, might I point out that the 3DS is a HUGE improvement over DS?

*pics*

There is a pretty clear difference in the power of the two systems.

Arach666

So...it´s just about the graphics?

Isn't that always what it is with systems that aren't the DS or Wii? Anyway, the 3DS also has a gyroscope, accelerometer, an improved online infrastructure, augmented reality, is like sixteen times more powerful than the DS, and much more. There are loads of reasons to buy it, even if you do not like the 3D.
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#124 Nozizaki
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

This is a true fact. And before anyone says that it will get rid of the one gimmick that 3DS had going for it, might I point out that the 3DS is a HUGE improvement over DS?

*pics*

There is a pretty clear difference in the power of the two systems.

Arach666

So...it´s just about the graphics?

And there's new input methods. Y'know, the circle pad, gyro-scope, accelerometer (SP) and an awesome home menu.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

This is a true fact. And before anyone says that it will get rid of the one gimmick that 3DS had going for it, might I point out that the 3DS is a HUGE improvement over DS?

*pics*

There is a pretty clear difference in the power of the two systems.

Nozizaki

So...it´s just about the graphics?

And there's new input methods. Y'know, the circle pad, gyro-scope, accelerometer (SP) and an awesome home menu.

I was also referring to things like the scale of the games. I'm expecting a much larger scale on the 3DS than what was available on DS.

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[QUOTE="Again_elation"]How was analog a novelty? It improved gameplay in a 3D space. 3D does NOTHING. Haziqonfire
It was a novelty when it came out. It was new and different and it had a wow factor. The same can be said about HD and the same will probably be said about the 3D eventually. 3D adds a layer of depth to the field and immerses people into a game unlike anything else on the market. In some games it can actually enhance the gameplay experience like Pilotwings Resort, where the extra depth helps with judgement of momentum, landing, turning, etc. In other games it adds nothing but a nice visual effect, like Ocarina of Time 3D. Ocarina of Time 3D is still a different type experience than Ocarina of Time on the N64 -- because of the 3D effect. You can't find a similar experience elsewhere.

Well said. I swear, gamers can be so close-minded at times.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

This is a true fact. And before anyone says that it will get rid of the one gimmick that 3DS had going for it, might I point out that the 3DS is a HUGE improvement over DS?

*pics*

There is a pretty clear difference in the power of the two systems.

charizard1605

So...it´s just about the graphics?

Isn't that always what it is with systems that aren't the DS or Wii? Anyway, the 3DS also has a gyroscope, accelerometer, an improved online infrastructure, augmented reality, is like sixteen times more powerful than the DS, and much more. There are loads of reasons to buy it, even if you do not like the 3D.

Augmented reality? What does that even mean? :o
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Arach666"]

So...it´s just about the graphics?

Arach666

Isn't that always what it is with systems that aren't the DS or Wii? Anyway, the 3DS also has a gyroscope, accelerometer, an improved online infrastructure, augmented reality, is like sixteen times more powerful than the DS, and much more. There are loads of reasons to buy it, even if you do not like the 3D.

Augmented reality? What does that even mean? :o

You don't know? Wait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82H78sPygTQ

It's pretty neat actually

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This is a true fact. And before anyone says that it will get rid of the one gimmick that 3DS had going for it, might I point out that the 3DS is a HUGE improvement over DS?

There is a pretty clear difference in the power of the two systems.

turtlethetaffer

I play handhelds specifically for non-polygonal games, which are generally lacking on other platforms.

Now the 3ds is doing exactly what everyone gave the psp crap for, and all of a sudden its awesomesauce.

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I thought everyone knew this?? What's the point of adding 3D when it it makes the game worse?? I guess everyone wants tacked on waggle while they're at it. ITT: people complain because it's cool to complain.
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

This is a true fact. And before anyone says that it will get rid of the one gimmick that 3DS had going for it, might I point out that the 3DS is a HUGE improvement over DS?

There is a pretty clear difference in the power of the two systems.

topgunmv

I play handhelds specifically for non-polygonal games, which are generally lacking on other platforms.

Now the 3ds is doing exactly what everyone gave the psp crap for, and all of a sudden its awesomesauce.

Hey, I'm not one of the people who knocked the PSP. It's a great handheld. I just prefer DS over it. (Same with 3DS and Vita.)

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You know what, I think the 3d was just a flat out mistake.

If the system had the same capabilities but without 3d, they could have sold it right off the bat at the $170 price point and made a profit.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 3ds. But the 3d is just a useless gimmick.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Isn't that always what it is with systems that aren't the DS or Wii? Anyway, the 3DS also has a gyroscope, accelerometer, an improved online infrastructure, augmented reality, is like sixteen times more powerful than the DS, and much more. There are loads of reasons to buy it, even if you do not like the 3D.charizard1605

Augmented reality? What does that even mean? :o

You don't know? Wait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82H78sPygTQ

It's pretty neat actually

Nah,I don´t really follow what´s happening with handhelds that much,smartphones ftw! :P

But that´s neat. ;)

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You know what, I think the 3d was just a flat out mistake.

If the system had the same capabilities but without 3d, they could have sold it right off the bat at the $170 price point and made a profit.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 3ds. But the 3d is just a useless gimmick.

theuncharted34

I don't know, imagine what it can do for things like horror games. It could be pretty neat. (Especially if a Silent Hill remake was released on 3DS.)

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

You know what, I think the 3d was just a flat out mistake.

If the system had the same capabilities but without 3d, they could have sold it right off the bat at the $170 price point and made a profit.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 3ds. But the 3d is just a useless gimmick.

turtlethetaffer

I don't know, imagine what it can do for things like horror games. It could be pretty neat. (Especially if a Silent Hill remake was released on 3DS.)

That's what it is, neat for a very short while and then it just gets old. It wouldn't add anything substantial to the game, it'd just be a bonus. (for some)

For me, when using 3d, I see constant ghosting and get headaches right away.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Augmented reality? What does that even mean? :oArach666

You don't know? Wait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82H78sPygTQ

It's pretty neat actually

Nah,I don´t really follow what´s happening with handhelds that much,smartphones ftw! :P

But that´s neat. ;)

So far, it's been a neat gimmick, but I think it can be used excellently with games like Pokemon and stuff.
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#138 Tezcatlipoca666
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I can't believe that this news is surprising to some people. Did you really think that all games would be in 3D?

Wow :?

Chris_Williams

then whats the point in calling the system 3DS, they advertise the 3D features, this is why its different then the DS because it uses 3D, you take that away and its just an DS 2. How could people not think all games wouldn't be in 3D, again 3D is in the freaking title.

Because it is capable of 3D. If you go out and buy a 3DTV it doesn't mean that you won't be watching 2D content, in fact that's what you'll be watching most of the time. Manufacturers still use the 3D capability as a main selling feature though.

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:lol:

This is far too disturbing and funny.

And yet sheep will continue to blab: "teh 3DS is not a gimmick!"

I don't know what's worse: Sheep continuing to defend, counterclaim and down play the whole 3DS is NOT a gimmick or Iwata's contradicting statements on 3DS (which is heavily heavily marketed as 3DS......clearly visible on the box)

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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

You know what, I think the 3d was just a flat out mistake.

If the system had the same capabilities but without 3d, they could have sold it right off the bat at the $170 price point and made a profit.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 3ds. But the 3d is just a useless gimmick.

theuncharted34

I don't know, imagine what it can do for things like horror games. It could be pretty neat. (Especially if a Silent Hill remake was released on 3DS.)

That's what it is, neat for a very short while and then it just gets old. It wouldn't add anything substantial to the game, it'd just be a bonus. (for some)

For me, when using 3d, I see constant ghosting and get headaches right away.

The only time that ever happened to me was when I was in the Water Temple :x :P
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The death of 3d is emminent.

For those of you that bought the virtual boy part deux thinking 3d was great this is proof that you have been had.

kuu2
So the 3DS is the new Virtual Boy then, is that what you are saying?
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#142 Timstuff
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So the 3DS's main feature is pretty much dead on arrival. This would be like if Nintendo launched the Wii and within a year most games were only using the classic controller. There comes a point where you gotta ask "Why don't I just wait for the PS Vita?"
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So the 3DS's main feature is pretty much dead on arrival. This would be like if Nintendo launched the Wii and within a year most games were only using the classic controller. There comes a point where you gotta ask "Why don't I just wait for the PS Vita?"Timstuff
And then you answer, 'because the games I want are only on the 3DS.'
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The whole point of the 3DS is the 3D! Wow Nintendo has been really shooting themselves in the foot lately.

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#145 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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The whole point of the 3DS is the 3D! Wow Nintendo has been really shooting themselves in the foot lately.

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No. It's. Not. For the final time, the 3DS is more than just the 3D... that would be like saying the whole point of the Vita is the second analog stick.
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#146 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

The whole point of the 3DS is the 3D! Wow Nintendo has been really shooting themselves in the foot lately.

charizard1605

No. It's. Not. For the final time, the 3DS is more than just the 3D... that would be like saying the whole point of the Vita is the second analog stick.

Sometimes you have to ask yourself "why bother...?"

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

The whole point of the 3DS is the 3D! Wow Nintendo has been really shooting themselves in the foot lately.

nintendoboy16

No. It's. Not. For the final time, the 3DS is more than just the 3D... that would be like saying the whole point of the Vita is the second analog stick.

Sometimes you have to ask yourself "why bother...?"

I swear, the amount of ignorance and misinformation on System Wars about the 3DS is astonishing.
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#148 Fizzman
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Nintendo saw the hype from Avatar in 3D and looked at all the 3DTV's blahh blahh blahh and thought peole would eat that garbage up. They did but only for about a year and people realized that 3D is a useless gimmick. Now Nintendo has a feature that no one cares about or feels its not worth the money. They need to make people think 3DS is worth it without 3D, which I dont see happening.

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#149 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]So the 3DS's main feature is pretty much dead on arrival. This would be like if Nintendo launched the Wii and within a year most games were only using the classic controller. There comes a point where you gotta ask "Why don't I just wait for the PS Vita?"charizard1605
And then you answer, 'because the games I want are only on the 3DS.'

From the looks of it, a lot of them are on the N64 and Wii virtual console. :P
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#150 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] No. It's. Not. For the final time, the 3DS is more than just the 3D... that would be like saying the whole point of the Vita is the second analog stick.charizard1605

Sometimes you have to ask yourself "why bother...?"

I swear, the amount of ignorance and misinformation on System Wars about the 3DS is astonishing.

Can be said for Nintendo (which is not just around SW) as a whole to be honest.