Iwata: Not Every 3DS Game Has to be 3D

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#151 mbrockway
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[QUOTE="abuabed"]3D proved to be useless for most people and for your battery's life but what is 3DS if not for 3D?-Snooze-

A piece of hardware, with a useless, and costly feature built in, at the loss of better hardware.

... Are we talking about the 3DS or the PS3? :P I'm getting deja vu here.
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#152 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]So the 3DS's main feature is pretty much dead on arrival. This would be like if Nintendo launched the Wii and within a year most games were only using the classic controller. There comes a point where you gotta ask "Why don't I just wait for the PS Vita?"Timstuff
And then you answer, 'because the games I want are only on the 3DS.'

From the looks of it, a lot of them are on the N64 and Wii virtual console. :P

But a lot more won't be, and that's the point. Sure, Star Fox and Zelda are remakes, but games like Mario Kart, Mario 3D Land, Paper Mario, Super Smash Bros 4, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion 2, Resident Evil Revelations, Kingdom Hearts 3D... the 3DS has a great library of exclusives, and that's what will and should sell the system, not the 3D, not the fancy features, not the tech.
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#153 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="Again_elation"]How was analog a novelty? It improved gameplay in a 3D space. 3D does NOTHING. Haziqonfire
It was a novelty when it came out. It was new and different and it had a wow factor. The same can be said about HD and the same will probably be said about the 3D eventually. .

I'm sorry, but this is nonsense. HD is just the continuation of a long line of resolution increases in media and videogames.

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#154 magiciandude
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Not all games utilized the DS's touch screen. That didn't stop it from being a great handheld.

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#155 Vinegar_Strokes
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[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

The whole point of the 3DS is the 3D! Wow Nintendo has been really shooting themselves in the foot lately.

charizard1605
No. It's. Not. For the final time, the 3DS is more than just the 3D... that would be like saying the whole point of the Vita is the second analog stick.

why call it the 3DS then. the 3D is the 3DS's USP
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#156 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="abuabed"]3D proved to be useless for most people and for your battery's life but what is 3DS if not for 3D?mbrockway

A piece of hardware, with a useless, and costly feature built in, at the loss of better hardware.

... Are we talking about the 3DS or the PS3? :P I'm getting deja vu here.

Playing Blurays isn't useless.

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#157 Vinegar_Strokes
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Not all games utilized the DS's touch screen. That didn't stop it from being a great handheld.

magiciandude
but the DS wasn't called the Nintendo TouchDS.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

The whole point of the 3DS is the 3D! Wow Nintendo has been really shooting themselves in the foot lately.

Vinegar_Strokes
No. It's. Not. For the final time, the 3DS is more than just the 3D... that would be like saying the whole point of the Vita is the second analog stick.

why call it the 3DS then. the 3D is the 3DS's USP

It was supposed to be what sold it to the masses It didn't. That doesn't mean the system has nothing other than the 3D though
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[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

The whole point of the 3DS is the 3D! Wow Nintendo has been really shooting themselves in the foot lately.

charizard1605
No. It's. Not. For the final time, the 3DS is more than just the 3D... that would be like saying the whole point of the Vita is the second analog stick.

the whole point of Vita is the second analog stick?...really?.. is the psv called ps2analogsticks?.. and if it was would it make sense that games wouldn't use the second analog stick, when its cleary in the title?.. yeah, the 3DS not doing 3D games is pretty wack, EVEN if you can turn off the 3D it still makes sense to have that option. This is Nintendo trying to cover their tracks, "hey 3D isn't doing so well so i guess we're going to have games without the 3D"
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

The whole point of the 3DS is the 3D! Wow Nintendo has been really shooting themselves in the foot lately.

Chris_Williams
No. It's. Not. For the final time, the 3DS is more than just the 3D... that would be like saying the whole point of the Vita is the second analog stick.

the whole point of Vita is the second analog stick?...really?.. is the psv called ps2analogsticks?.. and if it was would it make sense that games wouldn't use the second analog stick, when its cleary in the title?.. yeah, the 3DS not doing 3D games is pretty wack, EVEN if you can turn off the 3D it still makes sense to have that option. This is Nintendo trying to cover their tracks, "hey 3D isn't doing so well so i guess we're going to have games without the 3D"

And what's wrong with that? If the 3D in the game would rather hurt the game, what's wrong with not including it?
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#161 magiciandude
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[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Not all games utilized the DS's touch screen. That didn't stop it from being a great handheld.

Vinegar_Strokes

but the DS wasn't called the Nintendo TouchDS.

No, but it was touted a main feature of the DS. Along with the dual screens of course.

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#162 Vinegar_Strokes
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] No. It's. Not. For the final time, the 3DS is more than just the 3D... that would be like saying the whole point of the Vita is the second analog stick.

why call it the 3DS then. the 3D is the 3DS's USP

It was supposed to be what sold it to the masses It didn't. That doesn't mean the system has nothing other than the 3D though

fair point. i actually really like the 3DS, i don't have one of my own yet but i play my friend at works sometimes and i think the 3D is a great effect. so its just a little disappointing that they seem to be going off the 3D idea now. i will buy one for the starfox remake though
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#163 bobcheeseball
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I honestly couldn't care less for the 3D, fine by me. If you're buying a 3DS only for the glasses free 3D, I think you're going to be disappointed.
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So Nintendo is hinting at developers not to use the 3DS's only redeeming quality; looks like the 3DS will be stuck with remakes and downloadable games forever.. [spoiler] I only say this to screw with Charizard. Of course not every game should be 3D. :P [/spoiler]
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]why call it the 3DS then. the 3D is the 3DS's USP Vinegar_Strokes
It was supposed to be what sold it to the masses It didn't. That doesn't mean the system has nothing other than the 3D though

fair point. i actually really like the 3DS, i don't have one of my own yet but i play my friend at works sometimes and i think the 3D is a great effect. so its just a little disappointing that they seem to be going off the 3D idea now. i will buy one for the starfox remake though

Yeah, the 3D is neat. It is worth noting they never said they'd be ditching it entirely, they just said they wouldn't shoehorn it into games where it wouldn't make any sense to include it.
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So Nintendo is hinting at developers not to use the 3DS's only redeeming quality; looks like the 3DS will be stuck with remakes and downloadable games forever.. UCF_Knight
I don't like you :( [spoiler] :P [/spoiler]
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#167 Vinegar_Strokes
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I honestly couldn't care less for the 3D, fine by me. If you're buying a 3DS only for the glasses free 3D, I think you're going to be disappointed.bobcheeseball
i disagree. i think the effect is great. it works.
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#168 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] No. It's. Not. For the final time, the 3DS is more than just the 3D... that would be like saying the whole point of the Vita is the second analog stick.

the whole point of Vita is the second analog stick?...really?.. is the psv called ps2analogsticks?.. and if it was would it make sense that games wouldn't use the second analog stick, when its cleary in the title?.. yeah, the 3DS not doing 3D games is pretty wack, EVEN if you can turn off the 3D it still makes sense to have that option. This is Nintendo trying to cover their tracks, "hey 3D isn't doing so well so i guess we're going to have games without the 3D"

And what's wrong with that? If the 3D in the game would rather hurt the game, what's wrong with not including it?

then why would they make a system called 3DS if the 3D was going to hurt the games?..why don't they make a 3DS without the 3D included and have it cheaper, called it the DS 2 or give it a unique name like sony did with VITA.
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This is good to hear. At least devs have the choice to not shoehorn 3D into ever single 3DS game like a gimmick like some of the games on the Wii that had broken motion controls.

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] the whole point of Vita is the second analog stick?...really?.. is the psv called ps2analogsticks?.. and if it was would it make sense that games wouldn't use the second analog stick, when its cleary in the title?.. yeah, the 3DS not doing 3D games is pretty wack, EVEN if you can turn off the 3D it still makes sense to have that option. This is Nintendo trying to cover their tracks, "hey 3D isn't doing so well so i guess we're going to have games without the 3D"

And what's wrong with that? If the 3D in the game would rather hurt the game, what's wrong with not including it?

then why would they make a system called 3DS if the 3D was going to hurt the games?..why don't they make a 3DS without the 3D included and have it cheaper, called it the DS 2 or give it a unique name like sony did with VITA.

They included the 3D because they hoped it would sell the system to the masses (it didn't). However, like the touch screen, Nintendo made it clear from the outset that the 3D feature would NOT be used in every 3DS game. I do not see what the problem is here.
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#171 GD1551
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Could have done that with the wii's motion controls so I could actually play skyward sword. Funny though, the biggest selling point of the handheld is suddenly not needed.

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#172 Chris_Williams
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also i love the hypcrosity in here, when the 3DS was first revealed, you guys were just bragging about the 3D functions, saying its going to be cool and its going to add to the games and that nintendo is changing the industry with this device, then when it comes out and even nintendo is iffy about 3D, its all of a sudden... "meh i never even cared about 3D anyway", "thats not the whole point in the 3DS anyway", "you guys don't know what your talking about "...... just admit making a device around 3D wasn't a good idea, its a cool gimmick but it gets old after a while.

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also i love the hypcrosity in here, when the 3DS was first revealed, you guys were just bragging about the 3D functions, saying its going to be cool and its going to add to the games and that nintendo is changing the industry with this device, then when it comes out and even nintendo is iffy about 3D, its all of a sudden... "meh i never even cared about 3D anyway", "thats not the whole point in the 3DS anyway", "you guys don't know what your talking about "...... just admit making a device around 3D wasn't a good idea, its a cool gimmick but it gets old after a while.

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NO ONE ever said the 3D was a game changer :| All anyone said was that it's a neat feature.
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also i love the hypcrosity in here, when the 3DS was first revealed, you guys were just bragging about the 3D functions, saying its going to be cool and its going to add to the games and that nintendo is changing the industry with this device, then when it comes out and even nintendo is iffy about 3D, its all of a sudden... "meh i never even cared about 3D anyway", "thats not the whole point in the 3DS anyway", "you guys don't know what your talking about "...... just admit making a device around 3D wasn't a good idea, its a cool gimmick but it gets old after a while.

Chris_Williams

I didn'tdo that and the fact that alot of new features and a signifigant step up in power has nothing to do with it being better right?

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also i love the hypcrosity in here, when the 3DS was first revealed, you guys were just bragging about the 3D functions, saying its going to be cool and its going to add to the games and that nintendo is changing the industry with this device, then when it comes out and even nintendo is iffy about 3D, its all of a sudden... "meh i never even cared about 3D anyway", "thats not the whole point in the 3DS anyway", "you guys don't know what your talking about "...... just admit making a device around 3D wasn't a good idea, its a cool gimmick but it gets old after a while.

Chris_Williams

I barely even hyped the 3D feature on the handheld in the first place.

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#176 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

also i love the hypcrosity in here, when the 3DS was first revealed, you guys were just bragging about the 3D functions, saying its going to be cool and its going to add to the games and that nintendo is changing the industry with this device, then when it comes out and even nintendo is iffy about 3D, its all of a sudden... "meh i never even cared about 3D anyway", "thats not the whole point in the 3DS anyway", "you guys don't know what your talking about "...... just admit making a device around 3D wasn't a good idea, its a cool gimmick but it gets old after a while.

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NO ONE ever said the 3D was a game changer :| All anyone said was that it's a neat feature.

ahhh, thats B.S, i'm really tempted to go dig up old threads, ALOT of people here were boasting about 3D, saying nintendo is changing the game industry. You know what, i got nothing to do at the moment, i'm going to dig up these old threads. give a moment please sir
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]So Nintendo is hinting at developers not to use the 3DS's only redeeming quality; looks like the 3DS will be stuck with remakes and downloadable games forever.. charizard1605
I don't like you :( [spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

No way. :o That's okay, I watched the show, Charizard always hated everyone.
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

also i love the hypcrosity in here, when the 3DS was first revealed, you guys were just bragging about the 3D functions, saying its going to be cool and its going to add to the games and that nintendo is changing the industry with this device, then when it comes out and even nintendo is iffy about 3D, its all of a sudden... "meh i never even cared about 3D anyway", "thats not the whole point in the 3DS anyway", "you guys don't know what your talking about "...... just admit making a device around 3D wasn't a good idea, its a cool gimmick but it gets old after a while.

super600

I barely even hyped the 3D feature on the handheld in the first place.

wow, did i say super600 did it?, but its all good, i'm about to go find some old threads to prove that alot of people here were going crazy for the 3D and hyped it. You may be one, who knows.... :) should be fun to find out
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#179 ChubbyGuy40
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I'm pretty sure we hyped the 3DS for it's improved graphics, online features, and games. I don't remember 3D ever being more than just an extra plus. Yeah 3D is cool, but Idon't want it to check out DoA's jiggle physics in 3D. I want it to play games.

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#180 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] And then you answer, 'because the games I want are only on the 3DS.'

From the looks of it, a lot of them are on the N64 and Wii virtual console. :P

But a lot more won't be, and that's the point. Sure, Star Fox and Zelda are remakes, but games like Mario Kart, Mario 3D Land, Paper Mario, Super Smash Bros 4, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion 2, Resident Evil Revelations, Kingdom Hearts 3D... the 3DS has a great library of exclusives, and that's what will and should sell the system, not the 3D, not the fancy features, not the tech.

The problem is that much of this "great library" won't be hitting until next year. At least when Sony cut the PS3's price they had some killer apps available to make people want the system instead of just asking them to buy it as an investment.
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]I honestly couldn't care less for the 3D, fine by me. If you're buying a 3DS only for the glasses free 3D, I think you're going to be disappointed.Vinegar_Strokes
i disagree. i think the effect is great. it works.

Not to say it doesn't work, I just think the main appeal for the system should always be the games, not to use the 3D.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]So Nintendo is hinting at developers not to use the 3DS's only redeeming quality; looks like the 3DS will be stuck with remakes and downloadable games forever.. UCF_Knight
I don't like you :( [spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

No way. :o That's okay, I watched the show, Charizard always hated everyone.

He liked that female Charizard :oops:
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]From the looks of it, a lot of them are on the N64 and Wii virtual console. :PTimstuff
But a lot more won't be, and that's the point. Sure, Star Fox and Zelda are remakes, but games like Mario Kart, Mario 3D Land, Paper Mario, Super Smash Bros 4, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion 2, Resident Evil Revelations, Kingdom Hearts 3D... the 3DS has a great library of exclusives, and that's what will and should sell the system, not the 3D, not the fancy features, not the tech.

The problem is that much of this "great library" won't be hitting until next year. At least when Sony cut the PS3's price they had some killer apps available to make people want the system instead of just asking them to buy it as an investment.

That is true, but I suppose the point is that the 3DS's new price officially moves it into an impulse buy category. Also, people who would have bought a DSi will now buy the 3DS instead (they're the same price). Not to mention that as soon as the inevitable Pokemon is announced...
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

also i love the hypcrosity in here, when the 3DS was first revealed, you guys were just bragging about the 3D functions, saying its going to be cool and its going to add to the games and that nintendo is changing the industry with this device, then when it comes out and even nintendo is iffy about 3D, its all of a sudden... "meh i never even cared about 3D anyway", "thats not the whole point in the 3DS anyway", "you guys don't know what your talking about "...... just admit making a device around 3D wasn't a good idea, its a cool gimmick but it gets old after a while.

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NO ONE ever said the 3D was a game changer :| All anyone said was that it's a neat feature.

ahhh, thats B.S, i'm really tempted to go dig up old threads, ALOT of people here were boasting about 3D, saying nintendo is changing the game industry. You know what, i got nothing to do at the moment, i'm going to dig up these old threads. give a moment please sir

Sure, do it. If you find anyone other than mariokart64fan (or the like) hyping it... Well, you won't.
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#185 Tezcatlipoca666
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The 3DS is called the 3DS because it is capable of displaying 3D and has dual-screens. Its name doesn't automatically mean that the games must be made in 3D. The option is there and that option is what makes this handheld unique, that's the reason for the name 3DS.

Apparently this is difficult to understand but I don't know why :?

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He liked that female Charizard :oops:charizard1605
Aww, I missed that episode. :(
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#187 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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The 3DS is called the 3DS because it is capable of displaying 3D and has dual-screens. Its name doesn't automatically mean that the games must be made in 3D. A 3D 2D side-scroller wouldn't make much sense now would it..? The option is there and that option is what makes this handheld unique, that's the reason for the name 3DS.

Apparently this is difficult to understand but I don't know why :?

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Because understanding it would deprive people on this board a chance to hate on Nintendo.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]He liked that female Charizard :oops:UCF_Knight
Aww, I missed that episode. :(

Good. Ash released charizard in that episode. I was like WTF O__O
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="kuu2"]

The death of 3d is emminent.

For those of you that bought the virtual boy part deux thinking 3d was great this is proof that you have been had.

kuu2

So the 3DS is the new Virtual Boy then, is that what you are saying?

Iwata coming out and saying that 3d games on a 3d console are no longer mandatory pretty much proves it. Not to mention the poor sales and the $80 price drop 4 months after the system launches as well.

Do you have a different take on the 3DS?

Yes, since being like the Virtual Boy would mean the console is doomed to a failed, ten month long lifespan. Iwata had already stated, even before the 3DS was released, that the feature is optional, that a developer can choose to not utilize it. He is just reiterating that stance. The 3D is what was supposed to sell the 3DS to the masses- but it's a purely cosmetic feature, that can be easily disabled at no cost which Nintendo recognizes. In cases, it can be detrimental to the experience, which means there are games where it should rather not be used. Which is just what Iwata said. He never said Nintendo would be ditching the 3D entirely, just for games where it didn't make sense. A better analogy would be the touch screen on the DS, which was not used in so many games.
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#191 GD1551
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The 3DS is called the 3DS because it is capable of displaying 3D and has dual-screens. Its name doesn't automatically mean that the games must be made in 3D. The option is there and that option is what makes this handheld unique, that's the reason for the name 3DS.

Apparently this is difficult to understand but I don't know why :?

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Really? You really don't have any idea why a console that was advertised as a 3D device is receiving backlash because 3D is not mandatory for all the games?

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Really? You really don't have any idea why a console that was advertised as a 3D device is receiving backlash because 3D is not mandatory for all the games?GD1551
The Wii was advertised for it's motion control, yet motion control is not mandatory in Wii games. I don't see why this is such a large deal, considering a lot of games will not even benefit from 3D. [QUOTE="charizard1605"]Good. Ash released charizard in that episode. I was like WTF O__O

He never was that smart..
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

The 3DS is called the 3DS because it is capable of displaying 3D and has dual-screens. Its name doesn't automatically mean that the games must be made in 3D. The option is there and that option is what makes this handheld unique, that's the reason for the name 3DS.

Apparently this is difficult to understand but I don't know why :?

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Really? You really don't have any idea why a console that was advertised as a 3D device is receiving backlash because 3D is not mandatory for all the games?

It's impossible to use it for some of the games on the 3DS that are usually 2D platformers or on games that involve heavy use of the 3DS's motion controls. Forgames like 2D platformers the extra layer of depth doesn't really add anything to the game's gameplay like in a 3D platformer.If you use it for a game that uses the 3DS's motion controls a lot in a game it will lead to a receipe of disatrous and possibly cause headaches and eye issues easily.I wish people on Sw will actually think of the benefits of not using the 3D on the 3DS before bashing the device.

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#194 Tezcatlipoca666
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

The 3DS is called the 3DS because it is capable of displaying 3D and has dual-screens. Its name doesn't automatically mean that the games must be made in 3D. The option is there and that option is what makes this handheld unique, that's the reason for the name 3DS.

Apparently this is difficult to understand but I don't know why :?

GD1551

Really? You really don't have any idea why a console that was advertised as a 3D device is receiving backlash because 3D is not mandatory for all the games?

Yes. Yes I am. Precisely because of the mandatory part. Making 3D mandatory for ALL games is an idiotic idea...

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#195 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]Really? You really don't have any idea why a console that was advertised as a 3D device is receiving backlash because 3D is not mandatory for all the games?UCF_Knight
The Wii was advertised for it's motion control, yet motion control is not mandatory in Wii games. I don't see why this is such a large deal, considering a lot of games will not even benefit from 3D.
Good. Ash released charizard in that episode. I was like WTF O__Ocharizard1605
He never was that smart..

does a wii have to have all motion control games? no it doesnt this is no different

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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"] [QUOTE="charizard1605"]Good. Ash released charizard in that episode. I was like WTF O__O

He never was that smart..

He was actually the dumbest trainer ever, I mean, who loses like seventy percent of the battles he fights? So much for 'being the very best...'
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="kuu2"]

Iwata coming out and saying that 3d games on a 3d console are no longer mandatory pretty much proves it. Not to mention the poor sales and the $80 price drop 4 months after the system launches as well.

Do you have a different take on the 3DS?

kuu2

Yes, since being like the Virtual Boy would mean the console is doomed to a failed, ten month long lifespan. Iwata had already stated, even before the 3DS was released, that the feature is optional, that a developer can choose to not utilize it. He is just reiterating that stance. The 3D is what was supposed to sell the 3DS to the masses- but it's a purely cosmetic feature, that can be easily disabled at no cost which Nintendo recognizes. In cases, it can be detrimental to the experience, which means there are games where it should rather not be used. Which is just what Iwata said. He never said Nintendo would be ditching the 3D entirely, just for games where it didn't make sense. A better analogy would be the touch screen on the DS, which was not used in so many games.

No, because the DS was successful out of the gate and the pad did not hamper a gamers experience like 3d does (headaches, eye straing, upset stomachs). 3d was doomed to fail as it has done previously, and wearing glasses has little to do with its demise.

The 3DS is suffering the same problems the Virtual Boy did almost to a tee. Lack of 3rd party games, check. Over priced, check. Makes people ill, check. Nintendo back tracking on it, check. I have called this befor the 3DS launched and I have been right the entire time. Outside of a graphics upgrade which is not a leep in visuals there is not a redeeming quality about the 3DS.

Sorry to burst bubbles but that is how I see it.

We'll see in a year. Also, the DS was being outsold by the PSP until the DS Lite came along.
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The Wii was advertised for it's motion control, yet motion control is not mandatory in Wii games. I don't see why this is such a large deal, considering a lot of games will not even benefit from 3D

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Which wii games don't use motion controls at all?

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="kuu2"]

Iwata coming out and saying that 3d games on a 3d console are no longer mandatory pretty much proves it. Not to mention the poor sales and the $80 price drop 4 months after the system launches as well.

Do you have a different take on the 3DS?

kuu2

Yes, since being like the Virtual Boy would mean the console is doomed to a failed, ten month long lifespan. Iwata had already stated, even before the 3DS was released, that the feature is optional, that a developer can choose to not utilize it. He is just reiterating that stance. The 3D is what was supposed to sell the 3DS to the masses- but it's a purely cosmetic feature, that can be easily disabled at no cost which Nintendo recognizes. In cases, it can be detrimental to the experience, which means there are games where it should rather not be used. Which is just what Iwata said. He never said Nintendo would be ditching the 3D entirely, just for games where it didn't make sense. A better analogy would be the touch screen on the DS, which was not used in so many games.

No, because the DS was successful out of the gate and the pad did not hamper a gamers experience like 3d does (headaches, eye straing, upset stomachs). 3d was doomed to fail as it has done previously, and wearing glasses has little to do with its demise.

The 3DS is suffering the same problems the Virtual Boy did almost to a tee. Lack of 3rd party games, check. Over priced, check. Makes people ill, check. Nintendo back tracking on it, check. I have called this befor the 3DS launched and I have been right the entire time. Outside of a graphics upgrade which is not a leep in visuals there is not a redeeming quality about the 3DS.

Sorry to burst bubbles but that is how I see it.

the ds was not successful out the gate you really dont know what your talking about