Japanese devs focus on gameplay first and graphics last

Capcom director Hideaki Itsuno believes that most Japanese devs besides Ninja Theiry focus on gameplay first and graphics last while western devs do the opposite.

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/08/10/capcom-western-developers-focus-on-visuals-while-japan-focuses-on-gameplay/

Then why are Japanese devs struggling this gen?

This thread is bad.

I suppose by western he's referring to American? That's still kinda funny coming from someone working at capcom.

This thread is bad.

Riadon2

This thresd isnt bad.That guy's opinion is bad.

Japanese games don't have bad visuals, they have a unique style. This thread seems irrelevant to me.

Japanese games don't have bad visuals, they have a unique style. This thread seems irrelevant to me.

Masenkoe

Not true at all. All devs do their own thing. To think this is true or even somewhat close is idiocy. Look at... well, multitudes of Japanese games recently. Sure their not the prettiest, but the gameplay isn't all that great either. Besides, whether this is true or complete BS, whatever the western devs are doing seems to be working out much more.

Not true at all. All devs do their own thing. To think this is true or even somewhat close is idiocy. Look at... well, multitudes of Japanese games recently. Sure their not the prettiest, but the gameplay isn't all that great either. Besides, whether this is true or complete BS, whatever the western devs are doing seems to be working out much more.

arto1223

Kinda odd since capcom focuses on paid content first.

Meh. Every dev does it's own stuff.

I suppose by western he's referring to American? That's still kinda funny coming from someone working at capcom.

GD1551

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

Japanese games don't have bad visuals, they have a unique style. This thread seems irrelevant to me.

FPSfan1985

How so?

If anything it's because they are forcing themselves to do new things that they're sucking. I wish we had developers like pre-6th gen Square.

Thats why most still use outdated turn based combat like its the 90s.....

What dev group made the incredibly automated and cinematic experience called Final Fantasy 13?

nintendo is japanese and their not doing bad , l ol

I hate this "I take gameplay over graphics",or the opposite,mentality...

Why choose,why not have both?

On the PC,I never have to choose.If we had next gen consoles,console gamers wouldn't have to choose either!

Gameplay and graphics are both very important game aspects,we want our games to play good,but we also want them to look good,to be eye-pleasing.It's sad to see that at this point,devs have to make signifficant sacfriffices to one aspect,to make other one shine.

That's a nostalgic stereotype. Capcom dev needs to find another excuse as to why Japanese devs struggle, because that one won't wash. He obviously hasn't played a lot if he thinks they're all flash.

If he said Japanese devs focus on creativity first then he may have an argument.

But none of this explains why when they focus on gameplay over graphics, they don't utilize new physics and further ai.

I think you just pissed off a lot of anime weeaboo nerds.

I think you just pissed off a lot of anime weeaboo nerds.

-Unreal-

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

I think you just pissed off a lot of anime weeaboo nerds.

Kell_the_Gamer

Too bad Western games tend to be better at both, then.

I hate this "I take gameplay over graphics",or the opposite,mentality...

Why choose,why not have both?

On the PC,I never have to choose.If we had next gen consoles,console gamers wouldn't have to choose either!

Gameplay and graphics are both very important game aspects,we want our games to play good,but we also want them to look good,to be eye-pleasing.It's sad to see that at this point,devs have to make signifficant sacfriffices to one aspect,to make other one shine.

Rocker6

because when your limited and playing on a console you'd rather have a game that plays great a-la fifa sure it might not be the belle of the ball but goddamn the gameplay is addictive.

good gameplay tends to rank higher on folks lists to be brutally honest it makes or breaks a game more than graphical capability in my book anyway.

FFXIII says otherwise

Final Fantasy 13 says hello :roll:

I suppose by western he's referring to American? That's still kinda funny coming from someone working at capcom.

GD1551

Capcom director Hideaki Itsuno believes that most Japanese devs besides Ninja Theiry focus on gameplay first and graphics last while western devs do the opposite.

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/08/10/capcom-western-developers-focus-on-visuals-while-japan-focuses-on-gameplay/

Then why are Japanese devs struggling this gen?

super600

Capcon focus on profits first gamers last. They used to be known for their great graphics, but now, they're just known for being leeches.Chemical_Viking

FF13 and Resident Evil 5 and such looked amazing for the PS3 and 360.

Maybe your only considering Japanese Developed games for the Wii ;)

Is that why the New final Fantasy games are so popular and successful with no complaints ? because they really focused on the gameplay and what people do to play rather than how the game looks?

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

I hate this "I take gameplay over graphics",or the opposite,mentality...

Why choose,why not have both?

On the PC,I never have to choose.If we had next gen consoles,console gamers wouldn't have to choose either!

Gameplay and graphics are both very important game aspects,we want our games to play good,but we also want them to look good,to be eye-pleasing.It's sad to see that at this point,devs have to make signifficant sacfriffices to one aspect,to make other one shine.

razgriz_101

because when your limited and playing on a console you'd rather have a game that plays great a-la fifa sure it might not be the belle of the ball but goddamn the gameplay is addictive.

good gameplay tends to rank higher on folks lists to be brutally honest it makes or breaks a game more than graphical capability in my book anyway.

That is correct,a game without a good core gameplay mechanics will never achieve true success,no matter the visual quality.But still,eye pleasing visuals can make a great game much better,by improving immersion,and the overall mood and theme of the game...

The point is,this console generation dragged on for way too long,we're at the point where most developers cannot make their vision complete without having to sacriffice and cut something away...

We simply need new consoles that'll give the developers more tools to be able to develop without a lot of hardware based limitations present in current consoles...

Oh really?

Why has Final Fantasy been such utter crap lately then?

Now I did enjoy Lost Odyssey and Demon Souls, but the japanese do produce a TON of games with garage gameplay

Oh really?

Why has Final Fantasy been such utter crap lately then?

Now I did enjoy Lost Odyssey and Demon Souls, but the japanese do produce a TON of games with garage gameplay

kozzy1234

Oh really?

Why has Final Fantasy been such utter crap lately then?

Now I did enjoy Lost Odyssey and Demon Souls, but the japanese do produce a TON of games with garage gameplay

kozzy1234

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Oh really?

Why has Final Fantasy been such utter crap lately then?

Now I did enjoy Lost Odyssey and Demon Souls, but the japanese do produce a TON of games with garage gameplay

rjdofu

that's a load of bull.:? I mean you seem to be a die hard japanese fan that you say that.. but western rpg's have been really popular lately even among the east where they have to swallow their pride to buy something from over here.. it's like it kills them on the inside while we here we don't care ? it's a game we're interested we buy it. See what i'm saying? they're too proud to try new things or vary in style or recognize the rest of the world ? i mean.. how long until generic perverted rpg's will stop being made and chose to make a full entertainment title or a hentai game ? or just both and give it your all from both sides.. not just pretend you're trying and depend on otaku's to buy your products.

final Fantasy has by no means been westernized at all... kingdom hearts isn't even westernized and a lot of it's settings are based on western stories... while western developers do try to learn from others to make better games... while Japan is too proud to listen to it's western customers when some of us ask for things.. ( looking at capcom )

I agree. A perfect example is Lost Planet 2. Looks stunning, plays like a pile of crap. And made by....Oh, Capcom actually. Weird.WithoutGraceXII

I hate this "I take gameplay over graphics",or the opposite,mentality...

Why choose,why not have both?

On the PC,I never have to choose.If we had next gen consoles,console gamers wouldn't have to choose either!

Gameplay and graphics are both very important game aspects,we want our games to play good,but we also want them to look good,to be eye-pleasing.It's sad to see that at this point,devs have to make signifficant sacfriffices to one aspect,to make other one shine.

Rocker6

people are full of crap, they just wanna act like they have standards

Graphics don't meany anything if the game isn't good, next thing you know, THIS GAME SUCKS BECAUSE OF ITS STORY!!!

people just can't be pleased, they just need stop pretending they have standards for video games.

Simple, all Japanese devs do is innovate as they focus more in creating new types of gameplay.

Something you hardly see in Western devs. (Not that they're bad though)