[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"] Boring combat?? Im sure you must of despised FF12 than since dragon ages combat is what FF12 should have been.bigboss5akFF12 is the only FF I haven't played actually lol. Take it from me skip the game. But what i mean by a "true rpg" is exactly what dragon age is all about from character customization, engaing story, character development, lengthy adventure, You being placed in situations to make decisions that will effect your companions and the world around you. I mean dont me wrong I love jrpgs but after playing dragon age it really jus showed me the flaws and the reason why jrpgs are having a tough time this gen. They lack innovation, innovation in there characters, innovation in there plots its all the same with a diffrent coat of paint. Don't get me wrong I was enjoying DA's story but the combat was just too slow for my tastes. Everything else was pretty much ace.
Japan's 2ch. Replies To RPG Complaints (56K WTF??)
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[QUOTE="Yandere"][QUOTE="Silenthps"] and all they have to say back is
asdasdrgr
That picture mixed with your sentence too well.
Funny thing is that some people may not understand that it back fired, since that came like 10 years ago and we are talking about recent games.I don't really think it did, what i am saying is that the repplys of the Flamer Dude from the article is obviously filled with prejudice against western games, he does mention Fallout andOblivion, but fails by characterizing all other RPG's from western developers to be all similar to those. He says:
"Okay, so give us some foreign RPGs that are more interesting than Japanese ones. I just don't find foreign RPGs interesting at all."
"Oblivion's okay, but foreign games lack subtlety. They lack detail, and the character design and stories are bad."
Obviously Planescape is a testement to the dumbness of such afirmations. But okay i'll rewrite this and put another favorite from posters here in the forum.
PS.: Though i got to say that, in contradiction to the general belief that WRPG's have evolved, and JRPGs not; ancient RPGs such as Fallout 1,2 or Planescape shows that not much has really evolved in a meaningful way.
but it is so kawaii desu neko chan :3[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]
They lack detail, and the character design and stories are bad."
I rest my case.
soiheardyoulike
Kawaii? Ha! She is a youkai-child from the netherworld.
[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]Really? What about Morrowind?Ignorance and generalizations. A large part of the modding community for Oblivion and Fallout 3 is japanese as well. The subtle comment is also rather laughable when many JRPGs are about as subtle as a nudist walking in NYC.
asdasdrgr
There's a few, but not as many modders as there are for Oblivion/Fo3.
There's a mod for Oblivion that "changes the character design of all the NPCs" to make them more "subtle." :lol:
Then there's actually good pose mods and some other well-known hair, armor, and weapons made by Japanese modders.
my bad:P + planescape is a decade old as wellSilenthps
Chrono Trigger is even older, the DS version is pretty much just the touched up PS1 version with DS goodies, nothing more.
Storywise and character-wise, both WRPG's and JRPG's have been slowly declining as time passed by, though there is the occasional gem for each side.
but it is so kawaii desu neko chan :3:lol: lmao. Although, I've met people who talk like that :([QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]
They lack detail, and the character design and stories are bad."
I rest my case.
soiheardyoulike
In previous generations, when i played a good rpg it would be hard for me to discern whether or not it was from Japan. (unless I already knew the developer) Nowadays, I can instantly tell a jrpg form a wrpg because the differences in quality are so great.
For example Star Ocean: the Last Hope Vs. Mass Effect
- I know these tiles have different game mechanics however, it is the things like character interaction, character development, plot development, story, and sometimes moral choices that star ocean and many other jrpg's this gen are lacking.
- Features such as full voice acting are almost always missing in jrpgs; very few people want to read blocks of text when playing a game.
- jrpgs are still my favoraite enre but it is a bit frustrating to see a lack of evolution in the genre.
Here's a couple of links to compare and contrast
Star Ocean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNpla6xNMsY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm_J0jjNibM&feature=related
Mass Effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKrdD6Q4nGw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_RgV3tGgsc&feature=related
In previous generations, when i played a good rpg it would be hard for me to discern whether or not it was from Japan. (unless I already knew the developer) Nowadays, I can instantly tell a jrpg form a wrpg because the differences in quality are so great.
For example Star Ocean: the Last Hope Vs. Mass Effect
- I know these tiles have different game mechanics however, it is the things like character interaction, character development, plot development, story, and sometimes moral choices that star ocean and many other jrpg's this gen are lacking.
- Features such as full voice acting are almost always missing in jrpgs; very few people want to read blocks of text when playing a game.
- jrpgs are still my favoraite enre but it is a bit frustrating to see a lack of evolution in the genre.
Here's a couple of links to compare and contrast
Star Ocean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNpla6xNMsY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm_J0jjNibM&feature=related
Mass Effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKrdD6Q4nGw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_RgV3tGgsc&feature=related
ycole11
Sadly though SO4 was a medicore JRPG I find it better than Mass effect.
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