Japan's 2ch. Replies To RPG Complaints (56K WTF??)

WRPG are like shooters from japan, they s-u-c-k!

SionPT

[QUOTE="SionPT"]

WRPG are like shooters from japan, they s-u-c-k!

jasonharris48

Lack of This :

Judging by all the sigs i see that have anime chicks in, I assume some sort of horrible infatuation exists.

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="asdasdrgr"] Demon's souls and Valkyria Chronicles were the only innovative RPG this gen and they were....da dad da... JRPGs. While dragon age is a dumbed down version of BG2? Witcher was innovative, but it isn't a WRPG, it was developed in EASTERN EUROPE. WRPG has to evolve imo. Enough of D and D from bioware and oblivion with guns from bethesda.asdasdrgr

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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

I've just started playing TWEWY and aside from it's horrible characters, it's prettyunique. The story smells from what i've played though, especiallymonologue at the start, i almost turned it off.

Stats_

TWEWY is one of my favourite games ever. But you have to be open and not embarrassed bythemes of friendship and feelings and such. As such, its not for everyone in that sense. The story interested me, I came back for everything else though. The monologue in the beginning actually is fair imo though, the dude does close himself off from people, its a fair statement to say that most teenagers don't really get people. I don''t know how many times I read that quote on facebook :lol:

I doubt the story will be bad. So far it seems pretty simple, and is interesting enough for me to want to know what the hell is going on. The combat and badge system are pretty nice to mess about with.

You must know some strange kids. Most the teenagers i know are very sociable.

I like the story, just that I don't think its for everyone. As for the Teenager I know well its basically something like this:

1. Couple break up
2. Trash talk
3. "He/She is such a jerk. I don't get people":P

Haha, these are the most social ones toolol

shadow_hosi

Two discs!?!?!?!?!? Auto suck :roll:

:P

[QUOTE="asdasdrgr"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]t's been discussed before and the nationaity of the developer does not determine whether a game is a JRPG or a WRPG, the gameplay does.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

How can jrpgs evolve if a change in style makes them no longer a jrpg? :|

[QUOTE="NoobisMaxcimus"]

It seems like Japanese people don't even try Wrpgs. They sound just as ignorant.

asdasdrgr

japanese rpgs sell well in the west too...

[QUOTE="hayato_"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

Not only have i played the games you mentioned, I own Demon Souls

Anyone who's played Demon Souls can tell it's been influenced by WRPGs. The Megami Tensai series is justa huge cliche. WRPG's are gay cause you can have homosexual intercourse? That#s a choice you make, just like real life. Choice is somthing you won't be familiar with being a JRPG fan.

The most annoying thin is JRPG's imo is the poor stories. The terrible character models that are either super feminine, or emo-centric. The gameplay is fine.

tagyhag

:lol:

As opposed to a fake one that the player doesn't really care for.

Mass Effect and Dragon Age: Origins (Gamefly)are still collecting dust on my shelf. :P

Those games are just "boring" to me. Making either Good (Fairy)/ Middle/ Bad choices. are not appealing at all and the reason I think they are so successful is because the user, through the avatars theycreate, have pathological relationships with thier character thattheycreated, rather then expriencing a story and being drawn in by a story that has already been created.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="asdasdrgr"] j=japanese= made in japan rpg=role playing game Try putting both together.Odrec

How can jrpgs evolve if a change in style makes them no longer a jrpg? :|

thats actually a good point

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="SionPT"]

WRPG are like shooters from japan, they s-u-c-k!

Stats_

Lack of This :

Judging by all the sigs i see that have anime chicks in, I assume some sort of horrible infatuation exists.

Oh really now.....

Mass Effect 2 says Hallo.

There is also this game which says it all:

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="SionPT"]

WRPG are like shooters from japan, they s-u-c-k!

Stats_

Lack of This :

Judging by all the sigs i see that have anime chicks in, I assume some sort of horrible infatuation exists.

Problem is, the oldest anime chick you usually find is something around 16/18. :P

Now kick in a cliché story + sexual innuedos = brain damage

Although, yes, although there's also quality works, you just got to be selective, same way you do with western developed stuff.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Care to explain how WRPGs suck?

dreman999

Lack of This :

Judging by all the sigs i see that have anime chicks in, I assume some sort of horrible infatuation exists.

Oh really now.....

Mass Effect 2 says Hallo.

Haha,

well at least that one is around 27-30 years old.

And nice shapes 8)

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Care to explain how WRPGs suck?

dreman999

Lack of This :

Judging by all the sigs i see that have anime chicks in, I assume some sort of horrible infatuation exists.

Oh really now.....

Mass Effect 2 says Hallo.

She's far too realistic to appeal to them though. Look at her hair colour, it's not even green, Pffft.

JRPGs are so lame and stupid

:? So many ignorant responses. With that mentality no wonder western games sell like **** in Japan. Dante2710

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]:? So many ignorant responses. With that mentality no wonder western games sell like **** in Japan. kolkov01

Or maybe they make good games that appeal to everyone but westerns makes games thats only appeals to them.

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]:? So many ignorant responses. With that mentality no wonder western games sell like **** in Japan. Kashiwaba

Or maybe they make good games that appeal to everyone but westerns makes games thats only appeals to them.

[QUOTE="dreman999"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

Lack of This :

Judging by all the sigs i see that have anime chicks in, I assume some sort of horrible infatuation exists.

Stats_

Oh really now.....

Mass Effect 2 says Hallo.

She's far too realistic to appeal to them though. Look at her hair colour, it's not even green, Pffft.

Most Asian countries do actually hold a predujice towards Westerners, which is another thing to think about.

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]:? So many ignorant responses. With that mentality no wonder western games sell like **** in Japan. Kashiwaba

Or maybe they make good games that appeal to everyone but westerns makes games thats only appeals to them.

No, we're far more open minded. This is obvious to anyone who's ever been to Japan, or has learnt about them.

Obviously you like JRPGS, and pretty much everything japanese judging by your sig, so you would think they appeal to everyone. I for one think it's weird and very unusual.

If a wrpg like dragon age cant wow those japanese gamers than i have no hope in them ever finding out what a true rpg is all about.bigboss5ak

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]:? So many ignorant responses. With that mentality no wonder western games sell like **** in Japan. Kashiwaba

Or maybe they make good games that appeal to everyone but westerns makes games thats only appeals to them.

Most Asian countries do actually hold a predujice towards Westerners, which is another thing to think about.

Vesica_Prime

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="dreman999"]

Oh really now.....

Mass Effect 2 says Hallo.

dreman999

She's far too realistic to appeal to them though. Look at her hair colour, it's not even green, Pffft.

She's also too old. She looks way over 15. Pfffft.

She's also too old. She looks way over 15. Pfffft.Stats_

Most Asian countries do actually hold a predujice towards Westerners, which is another thing to think about.

Vesica_Prime

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="kolkov01"] Taking in consideration the fact that Japanese games sell tend to sell better in the west then western games sell in Japan i'd say we're more open then they areStats_

Or maybe they make good games that appeal to everyone but westerns makes games thats only appeals to them.

No, we're far more open minded. This is obvious to anyone who's ever been to Japan, or has learnt about them.

Obviously you like JRPGS, and pretty much everything japanese judging by your sig, so you would think they appeal to everyone. I for one think it's weird and very unusual.

Everyone thinks that he is open minded more than the others and yet I agree with Japanese more the most famous games in the west are FPS and I find them hell boring and repetitive.

I agree with almost all of that list.

And Dragon Age is not a "true RPG". It's just an adventure game with dialog choices and RPG elements with boring combat if you want to get technical.

Theguy56

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]:? So many ignorant responses. With that mentality no wonder western games sell like **** in Japan. Kashiwaba

Or maybe they make good games that appeal to everyone but westerns makes games thats only appeals to them.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Or maybe they make good games that appeal to everyone but westerns makes games thats only appeals to them.

Kashiwaba

No, we're far more open minded. This is obvious to anyone who's ever been to Japan, or has learnt about them.

Obviously you like JRPGS, and pretty much everything japanese judging by your sig, so you would think they appeal to everyone. I for one think it's weird and very unusual.

Everyone thinks that he is open minded more than the others and yet I agree with Japanese more the most famous games in the west are FPS and I find them hell boring and repetitive.

I never said I as an idividual was open minded, i said as a whole. I doubt there are as many people in Japan who are interested in FPS games and Western things, as there are anime/manga/ J-pop fans you find all around GS.

Well of course you'd agree with the japanese ... Although, how can you consider an FPS boring and repetative when that is the very nature of a JRPG? You waitfor you turn, pick a move then watch it done. It's hardly a night with Scarlett Johansson now is it?

They're either both repetative or neither of them are.

Everyone thinks that he is open minded more than the others and yet I agree with Japanese more the most famous games in the west are FPS and I find them hell boring and repetitive.

Kashiwaba

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Most Asian countries do actually hold a predujice towards Westerners, which is another thing to think about.

hayato_

Sales of Japanese software like the PS2, Wii, and DS along side software such as Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda, Dragon Quest, etc disagree. A crap load of JRPG fans have been relying on their DS systems so I doubt they'd be vocal here.

Most Asian countries do actually hold a predujice towards Westerners, which is another thing to think about.

Vesica_Prime

That' doesn't explain hollywood movies, western fashion and so on being dominant in the east. Games are only a microcom, so you can't generalize.

When was the last you ever heard of Andy Lau, Takeshi Kaneshiro? Nobody on this board has except for a few people who are into asian culture.

I don't play JRPG's at all, but it's pretty stupid to want to snuff out the only thing out there that isn't completely dominated by the west.

I

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Most Asian countries do actually hold a predujice towards Westerners, which is another thing to think about.

redrezo

That' doesn't explain hollywood movies, western fashion and so on being dominant in the east. Games are only a microcom, so you can't generalize.

When was the last you ever heard of Andy Lau, Takeshi Kaneshiro? Nobody on this board has except for a few people who are into asian culture.

I don't play JRPG's at all, but it's pretty stupid to want to snuff out the only thing out there that isn't completely dominated by the west.

I

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Most Asian countries do actually hold a predujice towards Westerners, which is another thing to think about.

redrezo

That' doesn't explain hollywood movies, western fashion and so on being dominant in the east. Games are only a microcom, so you can't generalize.

When was the last you ever heard of Andy Lau, Takeshi Kaneshiro? Nobody on this board has except for a few people who are into asian culture.

I don't play JRPG's at all, but it's pretty stupid to want to snuff out the only thing out there that isn't completely dominated by the west.

I

Here's what most native Chinese people (e.g lives in China or migrated from China) think of Westerners, and for your information I think I know quite a lot about Asian culture because turns out I am Chinese lived in China (Hong Kong) for a bit and I see this stereotype frequently whenever I'm around other native Chinese people.

EDIT: I'm not saying all Chinese people are like that but it is true, its mainly a inside joke sort of thing. And most of my friends are Australian so I'm not like that at all really.

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="azell07"]

"Americans can't understand complexity so a lot of the best stuff doesn't get translated. Like Megami Tensei"

Oh rly, sorry mr japanese, I dont like men looking prettier than girls. emo games and love storys with linear story are not complex. Keep your fruity games and anti social ways.

azell07

Japan is emo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan why do you defend them? They think they are superior, their pride blinds them.

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Here's what most native Chinese people (e.g lives in China or migrated from China) think of Westerners, and for your information I think I know quite a lot about Asian culture because turns out I am Chinese lived in China (Hong Kong) for a bit and I see this stereotype frequently whenever I'm around other native Chinese people.

EDIT: I'm not saying all Chinese people are like that but it is true, its mainly a inside joke sort of thing. And most of my friends are Australian so yeah.

Vesica_Prime

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]]

Here's what most native Chinese people (e.g lives in China or migrated from China) think of Westerners, and for your information I think I know quite a lot about Asian culture because turns out I am Chinese lived in China (Hong Kong) for a bit and I see this stereotype frequently whenever I'm around other native Chinese people.

EDIT: I'm not saying all Chinese people are like that but it is true, its mainly a inside joke sort of thing. And most of my friends are Australian so yeah.

kolkov01

Most Asian people that are born in Western countries don't really have that sentiment, I can't speak for everyone but for me I actually think white girls are really, really hot :P.

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="azell07"]

Japan is emo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan why do you defend them? They think they are superior, their pride blinds them.

jasonharris48

No, this is emo, that is depression.

Good example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMkH6xi6-Og

While I understand your fashion point I really can't agree with the hollywood movie logic. I'v seen Japanese and Bollywood movies and independent movies. Very few of them have the production values of a Hollywood blockbuster, that usually counts for somethingkolkov01

What concerns me about this topic is particularly the sociological aspect of it, western games are fun but nobody is taking into account about why asian people may not want to play games and only games where the protagonist is always only a white male? Believe it or not most people may want to play games that have a protagonist they share the same background with and look like them.

"USC's Annenberg School for Communication has completed a study that compares game protagonists to their audiences and to American society -- and finds that the racial makeup of characters does not reflect either."

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/24625/Report_Video_Games_Do_Not_Accurately_Represent_Minorities.php

are we really considered THAT unnatractive? :P

kolkov01

lol, China isn't the only one that thinks of Americans that way. Alot of other natives from different countries do too.