Killzone 2 only used half the PS3's processing power!!!

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]How many people actually read the article? He said that the kz3 engine is more optimized and when they imported a kz2 level into the new engine it only used half of the ps3's processing power. Not that kz2 only used 50% of the ps3's power but their new engine is much more optimized.RavenLoud

While there is some idle time for SPUs, it's no actually 50%. Yet due to the parallelism of the machine, achieving 100% usage is impossible, this is due to the several scheduling mechanism necessary to keep data integrity and waiting time of data structures such as semaphores and mutexes. Admittedly, there's room for improvement but it's not as large, that's what art is for.

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

Apparently Killzone 2 only used 50% of the PS3's processing power. If this is true, how amazing is Killzone 3 going to be? We're yet to see a console game really surpass KZ2 graphically, and this is only using half of the PS3's power?!?!

http://www.digitalscrutiny.com/content/2010/12/killzone-2-used-half-the-ps3s-processing-power/

GnR-SLaSh

I couldn't figure out whether your sig was in-game from the trailer, if so - are we the only 2 who think that it just looks incredible?!

[QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] In a way, yes, but its not just half. Its a bitmore, but GG only used half of the SPE's. KZ2 is still the CGK though, mainly a tie between GOW3 and U2

thetruespin

I couldn't figure out whether your sig was in-game from the trailer, if so - are we the only 2 who think that it just looks incredible?!

You can see it at gametrailers.com, it's from the trailer - I just can't believe that it's real gameplay. The step up from R2 would be unreal - I am SO up for being proved wrong though, definite buy either way

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] You would think that...:PAnastasia1997

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

Apparently Killzone 2 only used 50% of the PS3's processing power. If this is true, how amazing is Killzone 3 going to be? We're yet to see a console game really surpass KZ2 graphically, and this is only using half of the PS3's power?!?!

http://www.digitalscrutiny.com/content/2010/12/killzone-2-used-half-the-ps3s-processing-power/

I couldn't figure out whether your sig was in-game from the trailer, if so - are we the only 2 who think that it just looks incredible?!

Guess what else? Uncharted 3 is so great, and the PS3 is so powerful, that it will use NONE of the PS3's power to render the game! So it will actually run in dual 1080p @ 120 fps in 4D!
[spoiler] Why is this even being talked about? A Sony Computer Entertainment first-party developer talking about how they didn't even use half of the PS3's power? What about all those third-party developers who said they used it all and its kind of underpowered? This is like trusting Rare in saying that the Xbox 360 is the most powerful platform on the planet. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I always found Killzone's graphics overratedAnastasia1997

You're close to being half right. Killzone 2 only used "60%" of the spe's. It was using all 100% of the PPE and the RSX graphics processor.

And for killzone 3 they offloaded enough to max out the spe's "workload" to 100%.

Basically what they improved on in kz3 is, they used the same engine (why not? it's great.) they removed all the excess blur, switched the 2xQuincux AA for MLAA, which saved them 18 mb's of video RAM.

And then they optimised their code to a t. Getting sharper textures, and bigger scale out of the deal. And better AA.

It may be killzone 2.5, (graphically at least), but the game has a great artstyle. In fact, it's one of my favorite art styles ever.

And I dare you to call it greyzone! :evil: :P

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Whats the game in your sig? locopatho

also killzone 2 is not the console graphics king.

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I always found Killzone's graphics overratedohthemanatee

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] You would think that...:Pracing1750

oh right, I forgot :P

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]I always found Killzone's graphics overratedohthemanatee

^^ that's resistance 2 right?

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] You would think that...:Pracing1750

:lol: don't you know this is opinion wars? LOL :P

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] You would think that...:PAnastasia1997

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] Resistance 3 :)MFDOOM1983

Resistance 2

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] You would think that...:PAnastasia1997

except for the fact that I do own a PS3 and have already finished Killzone 2's campaign a long time ago

and yes, between the two consoles I prefer the 360. I find the PS3 overrated

^^ that's resistance 2 right?

theuncharted34

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] is there a problem?

except for the fact that I do own a PS3 and have already finished Killzone 2's campaign a long time ago

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] Resistance 3 :)MFDOOM1983

What is that a screen from?! That's hilarious hahah

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] Ya, since you dont even own a PS3, let alone the fact your biased towards 360Anastasia1997

except for the fact that I do own a PS3 and have already finished Killzone 2's campaign a long time ago

not giving out my XBL or PSN accounts on system wars. Did that once and I didn't like the end result

tell me what time it is where you live and I'll take a picture of my PS3 signed with the hour you posted

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Thats very impressive! That series has come massively forward in graphics.Anastasia1997

Resistance 2

eww. Resistance 2 is not a pretty game. in fact, I'd say it looks worse than resistance 1. They took away the darker tone of the visuals from the first, then put an ugly bloom filter on everything. Even if it may be technicaly better than R1, they used the extra power in all the wrong places.

Resistance 3, however looks outstanding.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] Ya, since you dont even own a PS3, let alone the fact your biased towards 360Anastasia1997

except for the fact that I do own a PS3 and have already finished Killzone 2's campaign a long time ago

I'm 90% sure he has one. I'd let it go :P

Yes, the PS3's blast-processing is yet untapped :P

Killzone 2 looked better than Gears 2 but Killzone 3 looks much like Killzone 2, just new locations.

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

except for the fact that I do own a PS3 and have already finished Killzone 2's campaign a long time ago

theuncharted34

I'm 90% sure he has one. I'd let it go :P

I'm glad someone still remembers that pic I took :P

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

except for the fact that I do own a PS3 and have already finished Killzone 2's campaign a long time ago

ohthemanatee

not giving out my XBL or PSN accounts on system wars. Did that once and I didn't like the end result

tell me what time it is where you live and I'll take a picture of my PS3 signed with the hour you posted

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] You sure? Whats your PSN?Anastasia1997

not giving out my XBL or PSN accounts on system wars. Did that once and I didn't like the end result

tell me what time it is where you live and I'll take a picture of my PS3 signed with the hour you posted

if you think that KZ2's graphics are underrated then fine, it's your oppinion. I think they're very overrated and threads like this are the reason why I say Killzone 2 has overrated graphics

Also, how can you say Killzone 3 has underrated graphics if the game is not even out?

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] You sure? Whats your PSN?Anastasia1997

not giving out my XBL or PSN accounts on system wars. Did that once and I didn't like the end result

tell me what time it is where you live and I'll take a picture of my PS3 signed with the hour you posted

don't forget the art style. Unless, you know. You don't like it :evil:

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

not giving out my XBL or PSN accounts on system wars. Did that once and I didn't like the end result

tell me what time it is where you live and I'll take a picture of my PS3 signed with the hour you posted

if you think that KZ2's graphics are underrated then fine, it's your oppinion. I think they're very overrated and threads like this are the reason why I say Killzone 2 has overrated graphics

Also, how can you say Killzone 3 has underrated graphics if the game is not even out?

So if you guys believe GG and other Sony 1st party studios when they say that "game x cant be done on console y" or "we only use 33.46% of ps3 power" do you now believe KZ2 can be done on 360?I mean...after all,it only uses 50% of its power :P

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

not giving out my XBL or PSN accounts on system wars. Did that once and I didn't like the end result

tell me what time it is where you live and I'll take a picture of my PS3 signed with the hour you posted

don't forget the art style. Unless, you know. You don't like it :evil:

So if you guys believe GG and other Sony 1st party studios when they say that "game x cant be done on console y" or "we only use 33.46% of ps3 power" do you now believe KZ2 can be done on 360?I mean...after all,it only uses 50% of its power :P

Bus-A-Bus

they said it used 60% of the spe's. not the power. But no way was it only using 50% of the ps3's power.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] Its fine, I understand what you mean. It still stands tough, KZ2/3 are definately not overrated graphically, in fact, they are slightly underrated considering the amazng physics, animations, sound effects, post processing, weapon model, etc, etcAnastasia1997

don't forget the art style. Unless, you know. You don't like it :evil:

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

don't forget the art style. Unless, you know. You don't like it :evil:

freedomfreak

no, but sometimes they downplay the technical graphics because they don't like the artstyle. (or secretly they do, and really are being fanboys.) believe it or not, this is sw :P

Its fine, I understand what you mean. It still stands tough, KZ2/3 are definately not overrated graphically, in fact, they are slightly underrated considering the amazng physics, animations, sound effects, post processing, weapon model, etc, etcAnastasia1997

don't forget the art style. Unless, you know. You don't like it :evil:

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

So if you guys believe GG and other Sony 1st party studios when they say that "game x cant be done on console y" or "we only use 33.46% of ps3 power" do you now believe KZ2 can be done on 360?I mean...after all,it only uses 50% of its power :P

theuncharted34

they said it used 60% of the spe's. not the power. But no way was it only using 50% of the ps3's power.

Im just kiddin...GG stated that KZ2 uses 100% of SPUs time(and RSX than probably) when there is alot of a.i on big maps,or huge 32 player mp map.Anyway,there is a screenshot of SPU usage in KZ2 i think and its about 60% at avg. with highs as mentioned above.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] Its fine, I understand what you mean. It still stands tough, KZ2/3 are definately not overrated graphically, in fact, they are slightly underrated considering the amazng physics, animations, sound effects, post processing, weapon model, etc, etcAnastasia1997

if you think that KZ2's graphics are underrated then fine, it's your oppinion. I think they're very overrated and threads like this are the reason why I say Killzone 2 has overrated graphics

Also, how can you say Killzone 3 has underrated graphics if the game is not even out?

I never claimed KZ3's graphics were overrate, I have no opinion regarding KZ3's graphics

and again answers like those are the reason why I think killzone 2's graphics are overrated

So if you guys believe GG and other Sony 1st party studios when they say that "game x cant be done on console y" or "we only use 33.46% of ps3 power" do you now believe KZ2 can be done on 360?I mean...after all,it only uses 50% of its power :P

Bus-A-Bus

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] i love KZ's artstyle man, gets too much hate by fanboys :/theuncharted34

no, but sometimes they downplay the technical graphics because they don't like the artstyle. (or secretly they do, and really are being fanboys.) believe it or not, this is sw :P

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

don't forget the art style. Unless, you know. You don't like it :evil:

GnR-SLaSh

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Yes,people that don't like the artstyle are fanboys.Noted.freedomfreak

no, but sometimes they downplay the technical graphics because they don't like the artstyle. (or secretly they do, and really are being fanboys.) believe it or not, this is sw :P

and that is completely respectable.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

no, but sometimes they downplay the technical graphics because they don't like the artstyle. (or secretly they do, and really are being fanboys.) believe it or not, this is sw :P

theuncharted34

and that is completely respectable.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

no, but sometimes they downplay the technical graphics because they don't like the artstyle. (or secretly they do, and really are being fanboys.) believe it or not, this is sw :P

theuncharted34

and that is completely respectable.

Indeed it is. I for example love the style of KZ while I absolutely hate the way Halo looks.

Resistance 3 looks better than both IMO.

[QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"][QUOTE="Anastasia1997"] i love KZ's artstyle man, gets too much hate by fanboys :/Anastasia1997

you know what? I have faith in R3. They're going back to the darker tone, they brought the weapon wheel back, the graphics recieved a huge jump, And they still have 8 months to polish the single player, graphics, and the multiplayer. I Think it's going to be incredible. This is Insomniac after all :)

Yep, we'll get more gwaffix cause who cares what the video card does right? WTH is that thing?

If they really do have an extra 50% of processing power to play with... any chance of 60fps? thetruespin

60fps is ALMOST 3 times harder to achieve.In general, this means you have ~1/3 the time in comparison with 30fps, due to fixed cost overhead which can't be removed.Thats why I respect job that Treyarch done with BO.

(with a british accent) oh i lol'd so hard