Killzone 2: The game nobody talks about or plays anymore

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#51 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

I love KZ2, sure it didn't sell a ton of copies but it did well and a lot of people still play it. On top of that the game scored amazing across the board, 50 review sites can't all be wrong.

They got GeoW 2 wrong too. Both are garbage online.

What's wrong with KZ2 online? If you're comparing it to Gears 2 then it must be very laggy. I remember when I chainsawed some one and he didn't die and I was raging but my friend was wondering if I was crazy because he said he saw me melee him with a pistol.

KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.
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#52 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"] They got GeoW 2 wrong too. Both are garbage online.nmaharg

So games should be measured by their online components? I agree GeoW2s online was weak but the single player was just down right fun. I found both KZ2 to have both an entertaining multiplayer and single player....

Sure I get that you don't like it but I don't see why you have to go around trying to force your opinion down everyones throat.

Both had underwhelming single player. I beat both in less than 5 hours. I never forced anything. Like I said earlier to each there own.

The fact that you've stated your opinion on the matter 10 times already and telling everyone YOUR OPINION >>>> PROFESSIONAL REVIEWER OPINION...pretty much trying to tell everyone you're right their wrong....

Your opinion on the matter isn't gonna change how people feel about the game, so why not just give up and move on already?

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#53 jerkface96
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] They got GeoW 2 wrong too. Both are garbage online.nmaharg
What's wrong with KZ2 online? If you're comparing it to Gears 2 then it must be very laggy. I remember when I chainsawed some one and he didn't die and I was raging but my friend was wondering if I was crazy because he said he saw me melee him with a pistol.

KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.

thats basically the same thing in COD, Spawn Nade Shoot Die..... and Halo lol
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#54 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] They got GeoW 2 wrong too. Both are garbage online.nmaharg
What's wrong with KZ2 online? If you're comparing it to Gears 2 then it must be very laggy. I remember when I chainsawed some one and he didn't die and I was raging but my friend was wondering if I was crazy because he said he saw me melee him with a pistol.

KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.

So are the classes pointless compared to Battlefield and TF2?
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#55 redfordo
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It can't be denied that it just isnt a very good fps.
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#56 jerkface96
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

So games should be measured by their online components? I agree GeoW2s online was weak but the single player was just down right fun. I found both KZ2 to have both an entertaining multiplayer and single player....

Sure I get that you don't like it but I don't see why you have to go around trying to force your opinion down everyones throat.

W1NGMAN-

Both had underwhelming single player. I beat both in less than 5 hours. I never forced anything. Like I said earlier to each there own.

The fact that you've stated your opinion on the matter 10 times already and telling everyone YOUR OPINION >>>> PROFESSIONAL REVIEWER OPINION...pretty much trying to tell everyone you're right their wrong....

Your opinion on the matter isn't gonna change how people feel about the game, so why not just give up and move on already?

cause hes a troll or hes just a videogame elitist. It doesnt take much to reach Weekly Honors in KZ2, you dont even have to be good, you just have to play alottttt,and for him to say the game is horrible is just dumb, i looked at the trophies and hes spent hours playin that.
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#57 Panther501
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] They got GeoW 2 wrong too. Both are garbage online.nmaharg
What's wrong with KZ2 online? If you're comparing it to Gears 2 then it must be very laggy. I remember when I chainsawed some one and he didn't die and I was raging but my friend was wondering if I was crazy because he said he saw me melee him with a pistol.

KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.

so kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the market
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#58 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="zarshack"] they are still a more credible source then some guy on a forum.

jerkface96

How? There is no difference in credibility. I give my opinion they give theres if anything mine is more valid. I played the game at its highest level, and alot longer.

So whats wrong with the game then, you took your time to become such a highly touted player, your prolly reknowned around the world as the Ultimate say in whats good, since you can play killzone at such a high level. so whats wrong with the game, you probably just dont like it cause its doesnt control like COD or Halo, everything else it does nearly the same, and its a class based MP so its also different in a way.

i smell a troll

Toons take far too much dmg. The dmg the do take is the same no matter where you hit them other than head shots. The recoil on the guns is far to weak, making it super easy to just spray. Pretty much everyclass in the game is worthless other than the tactcian. Why make a class based FPS if what class you select makes no difference to the job you do? Shot delay lag. I don't know how many times i've been killed by someone I shot in the head 4 seconds ago. Alot more, but you get the point.
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#59 Doom_HellKnight
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Don't tell me what I play and what I don't.
I play it, and I've no problem getting into games online. Oh, and the controls are not rubbish. You are simply incapable of using them. If they were rubbish, then no one would be playing the game. Which, as I just said, they do.

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#60 jerkface96
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] What's wrong with KZ2 online? If you're comparing it to Gears 2 then it must be very laggy. I remember when I chainsawed some one and he didn't die and I was raging but my friend was wondering if I was crazy because he said he saw me melee him with a pistol. Panther501
KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.

so kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the market

exactly what i said lol
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#61 Nike_Air
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It kicks the everlivin' snot out of the overhyped Call of Duty 4 for me. But I can see why it isn't discussed much right now among PS3 owners...... with another great exclusive recently releasing in Infamous , an Uncharted 2 beta out there now, and all of the great happenings at E3. Plus the fact that it delivered so well , there's not much to say other than that.

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#62 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] What's wrong with KZ2 online? If you're comparing it to Gears 2 then it must be very laggy. I remember when I chainsawed some one and he didn't die and I was raging but my friend was wondering if I was crazy because he said he saw me melee him with a pistol. Panther501
KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.

so kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the market

Not the games I play. I play BF2, TF2, L4D, and CS. Mostly CS.
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#63 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

So games should be measured by their online components? I agree GeoW2s online was weak but the single player was just down right fun. I found both KZ2 to have both an entertaining multiplayer and single player....

Sure I get that you don't like it but I don't see why you have to go around trying to force your opinion down everyones throat.

W1NGMAN-

Both had underwhelming single player. I beat both in less than 5 hours. I never forced anything. Like I said earlier to each there own.

The fact that you've stated your opinion on the matter 10 times already and telling everyone YOUR OPINION >>>> PROFESSIONAL REVIEWER OPINION...pretty much trying to tell everyone you're right their wrong....

Your opinion on the matter isn't gonna change how people feel about the game, so why not just give up and move on already?

What do i have to give up?
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#64 jerkface96
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"] How? There is no difference in credibility. I give my opinion they give theres if anything mine is more valid. I played the game at its highest level, and alot longer.nmaharg

So whats wrong with the game then, you took your time to become such a highly touted player, your prolly reknowned around the world as the Ultimate say in whats good, since you can play killzone at such a high level. so whats wrong with the game, you probably just dont like it cause its doesnt control like COD or Halo, everything else it does nearly the same, and its a class based MP so its also different in a way.

i smell a troll

Toons take far too much dmg. The dmg the do take is the same no matter where you hit them other than head shots. The recoil on the guns is far to weak, making it super easy to just spray. Pretty much everyclass in the game is worthless other than the tactcian. Why make a class based FPS if what class you select makes no difference to the job you do? Shot delay lag. I don't know how many times i've been killed by someone I shot in the head 4 seconds ago. Alot more, but you get the point.

i agree with some of the stuff, but that doesnt stop it from being a good game,i think the recoil on the guns are fine tho, and i agree with the shoot delay lag, but t i dont find it a very big deal, as for the classes they work fine.
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#65 Panther501
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.

so kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the market

Not the games I play. I play BF2, TF2, L4D, and CS. Mostly CS.

TF2 = yah BF2 = pretty much CS = sort of L4D = i'll give you that one
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#66 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] What's wrong with KZ2 online? If you're comparing it to Gears 2 then it must be very laggy. I remember when I chainsawed some one and he didn't die and I was raging but my friend was wondering if I was crazy because he said he saw me melee him with a pistol. Panther501
KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.

so kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the market

You would think so but no. It's a bit different in KZ2 because spawn points ussally end up right next to each other. At least in COD and Halo you have 30 - 60 seconds to collect yourself. In KZ2 it's instant spawn then die. Even more now with the new patch.
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#67 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="jerkface96"]

So whats wrong with the game then, you took your time to become such a highly touted player, your prolly reknowned around the world as the Ultimate say in whats good, since you can play killzone at such a high level. so whats wrong with the game, you probably just dont like it cause its doesnt control like COD or Halo, everything else it does nearly the same, and its a class based MP so its also different in a way.

i smell a troll

jerkface96

Toons take far too much dmg. The dmg the do take is the same no matter where you hit them other than head shots. The recoil on the guns is far to weak, making it super easy to just spray. Pretty much everyclass in the game is worthless other than the tactcian. Why make a class based FPS if what class you select makes no difference to the job you do? Shot delay lag. I don't know how many times i've been killed by someone I shot in the head 4 seconds ago. Alot more, but you get the point.

i agree with some of the stuff, but that doesnt stop it from being a good game,i think the recoil on the guns are fine tho, and i agree with the shoot delay lag, but t i dont find it a very big deal, as for the classes they work fine.

Thats the thing thats not classes. Thats perks dressed up as classes. I wouldn't have as much of an issue with KZ2, if the devs didn't come out and say they were shooting to make the game tactical. The fact they said that makes me think of the game a a failure. cause it's anything but tactical.

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#68 Panther501
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.

so kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the market

You would think so but no. It's a bit different in KZ2 because spawn points ussally end up right next to each other. At least in COD and Halo you have 30 - 60 seconds to collect yourself. In KZ2 it's instant spawn then die. Even more now with the new patch.

30-60 seconds? no way, not at all. especially in cod4 (don't have as much expirence in halo 3). Cod 4 is much more of a frag fest and much much more chaotic
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#69 RotaryRX7
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Plenty of people still play it.

If you want to bash it, sales is your best approach.

Only if you consider 100k a week plenty. I bet if you get on halo 3 right now there are more people than that online.

lol wut? On COD:WAW for PS3, it averages 60k to 100k throughout the week....pretty standard stuff. :|
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"] They got GeoW 2 wrong too. Both are garbage online.nmaharg

So games should be measured by their online components? I agree GeoW2s online was weak but the single player was just down right fun. I found both KZ2 to have both an entertaining multiplayer and single player....

Sure I get that you don't like it but I don't see why you have to go around trying to force your opinion down everyones throat.

Both had underwhelming single player. I beat both in less than 5 hours. I never forced anything. Like I said earlier to each there own.

i dont understand why you waiste your time talking about games you didnt like and find their online to be garbage.... shouldnt you discuss on games you actually play & enjoy ?

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I still play. . .

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#72 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Panther501"] so kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the market

You would think so but no. It's a bit different in KZ2 because spawn points ussally end up right next to each other. At least in COD and Halo you have 30 - 60 seconds to collect yourself. In KZ2 it's instant spawn then die. Even more now with the new patch.

30-60 seconds? no way, not at all. especially in cod4 (don't have as much expirence in halo 3). Cod 4 is much more of a frag fest and much much more chaotic

Not a diss, but you must not be very good. I go 30-5 in COD easy. A 60 second life in COD is short for me.
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#73 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

So games should be measured by their online components? I agree GeoW2s online was weak but the single player was just down right fun. I found both KZ2 to have both an entertaining multiplayer and single player....

Sure I get that you don't like it but I don't see why you have to go around trying to force your opinion down everyones throat.

Malta_1980

Both had underwhelming single player. I beat both in less than 5 hours. I never forced anything. Like I said earlier to each there own.

i dont understand why you waiste your time talking about games you didnt like and find their online to be garbage.... shouldnt you discuss on games you actually play & enjoy ?

I discuss all games.
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#74 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"][QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Plenty of people still play it.

If you want to bash it, sales is your best approach.

Only if you consider 100k a week plenty. I bet if you get on halo 3 right now there are more people than that online.

lol wut? On COD:WAW for PS3, it averages 60k to 100k throughout the week....pretty standard stuff. :|

How do you know?
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The initial hype of Killzone was quelled when we discovered it was just a fritty, dark COD. Except worse.

I actually enjoyed the game for a while, until i went back to WarHawk and Halo. Far better online imo.

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#76 Panther501
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] You would think so but no. It's a bit different in KZ2 because spawn points ussally end up right next to each other. At least in COD and Halo you have 30 - 60 seconds to collect yourself. In KZ2 it's instant spawn then die. Even more now with the new patch.

30-60 seconds? no way, not at all. especially in cod4 (don't have as much expirence in halo 3). Cod 4 is much more of a frag fest and much much more chaotic

Not a diss, but you must not be very good. I go 30-5 in COD easy. A 60 second life in COD is short for me.

30-5 easy? HAHA I find that extremely hard to believe? what do you do? camp with a sniper rifle? ahhhh that would explain why you last so long cause you just sit there. I'm more of a rusher.
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Silence MP5, with uav jammer and lightning reflex. Most of my kills are with my knife. FYI im a hermit not a lemming.

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[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.nmaharg
so kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the market

You would think so but no. It's a bit different in KZ2 because spawn points ussally end up right next to each other. At least in COD and Halo you have 30 - 60 seconds to collect yourself. In KZ2 it's instant spawn then die. Even more now with the new patch.

Spawn points are pretty far apart and you can choose where to spawn, it honestly seems you're making this all up.

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#79 zarshack
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Silence MP5, with uav jammer and lightning reflex. Most of my kills are with my knife. FYI im a hermit not a lemming.

nmaharg

i knew that, your ego is unmistakably hermit like.

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#80 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Panther501"] so kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the marketChutebox

You would think so but no. It's a bit different in KZ2 because spawn points ussally end up right next to each other. At least in COD and Halo you have 30 - 60 seconds to collect yourself. In KZ2 it's instant spawn then die. Even more now with the new patch.

Spawn points are pretty far apart and you can choose where to spawn, it honestly seems you're making this all up.

So you're telling me while playing KZ2 you have never seen two spawn points right next to earth other. I don't know the name of teh map, but the one where you need to control the top platform. There are always two spaw points up there. And if you don't spawn there and fight it out your team will lose. There is a point like this in all but 2 maps in the game.
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

Silence MP5, with uav jammer and lightning reflex. Most of my kills are with my knife. FYI im a hermit not a lemming.

zarshack

i knew that, your ego is unmistakably hermit like.

is that really what gives us away?

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#82 zarshack
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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

Silence MP5, with uav jammer and lightning reflex. Most of my kills are with my knife. FYI im a hermit not a lemming.

Irick_cb

i knew that, your ego is unmistakably hermit like.

is that really what gives us away?

no idea i was just looking for an excuse to post this:

I was a PC gamer myself for many years :P

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#83 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="zarshack"] i knew that, your ego is unmistakably hermit like.

zarshack

is that really what gives us away?

no idea i was just looking for an excuse to post this:

I was a PC gamer myself for many years :P

LOL

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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="zarshack"] they are still a more credible source then some guy on a forum.

jerkface96

How? There is no difference in credibility. I give my opinion they give theres if anything mine is more valid. I played the game at its highest level, and alot longer.

So whats wrong with the game then, you took your time to become such a highly touted player, your prolly reknowned around the world as the Ultimate say in whats good, since you can play killzone at such a high level. so whats wrong with the game, you probably just dont like it cause its doesnt control like COD or Halo, everything else it does nearly the same, and its a class based MP so its also different in a way.

i smell a troll

1.bad controls REALLY BAD controls even by any good games standards bad controls.
2.Animation took presidence over control which is why they were bad, who needs 2 second long reload animations that don't match any thing in real life they are put there just to look good and waste time.
3.Inane level design levels are insanely linear more so then most other fps games you literally have no choice on where you go it could only be more linear if it was just straight corridors with no turns.
4.Motion sensing shoehorned in that offered no compelling reason as to being there and used badly you have to go up to valves hit the action button hold R1 and L1 turn the controller, let go, turn, hold the buttons turn, let go turn, hold the buttons...etc and the motion sensing sniping was literally stupid i had to hold the controller stock still or it would skew my aim if i was using the analog sticks.
5.Cover system is forgettable i didn't even realize i could cover until about half way through the game and then its useless the game is so easy you don't really ever have to use it its not intuitive at all.
6.Easy difficulty I beat the game in 4-5 hours on recruit and 5 hours on trooper using the knife all most constantly I don't expect the difficulty to shoot up that much on the other difficulties with the only jump on elite being hud and cross hair removal which really in the end enemies take more shots to kill, and you take less to die...
7.stupid weapon placement in single player most of the non-stock weapons appear once in the game and you get to use them in a limited manner.

Surfice to say killzone 2 didn't get good scores because its a good game it got good scores because like most humans the reviewers bought into hype and allowed them selves to be marveled by graphics.
Killzone 2 does nothing better or any thing equal to other top FPS this generation or last, It is a pretty yet generic and mediocre FPS.

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People play it...lol...Lots of people play it, you can always get a game of 32...TheProdigyIV
Wrong, i usually find a 30+ game but then it's full, :P
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#86 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="jerkface96"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] How? There is no difference in credibility. I give my opinion they give theres if anything mine is more valid. I played the game at its highest level, and alot longer.WilliamRLBaker

So whats wrong with the game then, you took your time to become such a highly touted player, your prolly reknowned around the world as the Ultimate say in whats good, since you can play killzone at such a high level. so whats wrong with the game, you probably just dont like it cause its doesnt control like COD or Halo, everything else it does nearly the same, and its a class based MP so its also different in a way.

i smell a troll

1.bad controls REALLY BAD controls even by any good games standards bad controls. 2.Animation took presidence over control which is why they were bad, who needs 2 second long reload animations that don't match any thing in real life they are put there just to look good and waste time. 3.Inane level design levels are insanely linear more so then most other fps games you literally have no choice on where you go it could only be more linear if it was just straight corridors with no turns. 4.Motion sensing shoehorned in that offered no compelling reason as to being there and used badly you have to go up to valves hit the action button hold R1 and L1 turn the controller, let go, turn, hold the buttons turn, let go turn, hold the buttons...etc and the motion sensing sniping was literally stupid i had to hold the controller stock still or it would skew my aim if i was using the analog sticks. 5.Cover system is forgettable i didn't even realize i could cover until about half way through the game and then its useless the game is so easy you don't really ever have to use it its not intuitive at all. 6.Easy difficulty I beat the game in 4-5 hours on recruit and 5 hours on trooper using the knife all most constantly I don't expect the difficulty to shoot up that much on the other difficulties with the only jump on elite being hud and cross hair removal which really in the end enemies take more shots to kill, and you take less to die... 7.stupid weapon placement in single player most of the non-stock weapons appear once in the game and you get to use them in a limited manner. Surfice to say killzone 2 didn't get good scores because its a good game it got good scores because like most humans the reviewers bought into hype and allowed them selves to be marveled by graphics.

Lol, right. Let me guess, Halo 3 deserved it's score 100%!

Why is it so hard for people to understand just because you dislike a game, doesn't mean the majority will.

People need to get over themselves.

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#87 WilliamRLBaker
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and I mentioned halo 3 where? I don't remember spending all my days distoling the virtues of halo 3...don't remember mentioning it once...odd how IF i dont like killzone 2 that must mean my opinion is wrong and i love halo 3 right? Couldn't be that both games have problems? but the proof being in the pudding shows that halo 3 has outscored killzone 2, and outsold it by what 3x? it all so has more people playing it online concurrently and thats proven by intensive stats we'll likely never see out of gurilla.

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#88 Communistsheep
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[QUOTE="jerkface96"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] How? There is no difference in credibility. I give my opinion they give theres if anything mine is more valid. I played the game at its highest level, and alot longer.WilliamRLBaker

So whats wrong with the game then, you took your time to become such a highly touted player, your prolly reknowned around the world as the Ultimate say in whats good, since you can play killzone at such a high level. so whats wrong with the game, you probably just dont like it cause its doesnt control like COD or Halo, everything else it does nearly the same, and its a class based MP so its also different in a way.

i smell a troll

1.bad controls REALLY BAD controls even by any good games standards bad controls. 2.Animation took presidence over control which is why they were bad, who needs 2 second long reload animations that don't match any thing in real life they are put there just to look good and waste time. 3.Inane level design levels are insanely linear more so then most other fps games you literally have no choice on where you go it could only be more linear if it was just straight corridors with no turns. 4.Motion sensing shoehorned in that offered no compelling reason as to being there and used badly you have to go up to valves hit the action button hold R1 and L1 turn the controller, let go, turn, hold the buttons turn, let go turn, hold the buttons...etc and the motion sensing sniping was literally stupid i had to hold the controller stock still or it would skew my aim if i was using the analog sticks. 5.Cover system is forgettable i didn't even realize i could cover until about half way through the game and then its useless the game is so easy you don't really ever have to use it its not intuitive at all. 6.Easy difficulty I beat the game in 4-5 hours on recruit and 5 hours on trooper using the knife all most constantly I don't expect the difficulty to shoot up that much on the other difficulties with the only jump on elite being hud and cross hair removal which really in the end enemies take more shots to kill, and you take less to die... 7.stupid weapon placement in single player most of the non-stock weapons appear once in the game and you get to use them in a limited manner. Surfice to say killzone 2 didn't get good scores because its a good game it got good scores because like most humans the reviewers bought into hype and allowed them selves to be marveled by graphics.

1.Subjective, i love the controls they are really easy to handell of you have the trigger on r1 instead. 2. I don't need ut to be realistic, just working. 3. They are linear yes, but i like it like that, it's not supposed to be a sandbox game. 4. How, they only use sixasis for a very small part of the game, you can't be so damn picky, and that with the sniper, i usually only use my analog. 5. You are telling me, you went on hard difficulty, guns and blazing into a pile of enemies, you're lying really badly. 6. Anybody can beat easy difficulty- You're lying. Go in with a knife, without a coversystem on a harder difficulty, put it on youtube and then show me how well you do. 7. Yes, your supposed to be tactical with your ammunition, you complain about it not being realistic enough, yet you complain when a thing like limited ammo. What about the few hundred thousands of people who still play it each damn day? Are they still under the illusion the hype even after experiencing the game for a few months?
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#89 CleanPlayer
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Plenty of people still play it.

If you want to bash it, sales is your best approach.

nmaharg
Only if you consider 100k a week plenty. I bet if you get on halo 3 right now there are more people than that online.

100K a week plenty? That's a lot of matches to play from.
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#90 zarshack
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and I mentioned halo 3 where? I don't remember spending all my days distoling the virtues of halo 3...don't remember mentioning it once...odd how IF i dont like killzone 2 that must mean my opinion is wrong and i love halo 3 right? Couldn't be that both games have problems? but the proof being in the pudding shows that halo 3 has outscored killzone 2, and outsold it by what 3x? it all so has more people playing it online concurrently and thats proven by intensive stats we'll likely never see out of gurilla.

WilliamRLBaker

logic would usually show that if more people bought it more people would be online currently playing it. popular =/= better, so that part of your argument doesnt mean anything, more people playing it is just a really pathetic argument and so is sales, the only valid point is score.

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#91 Chutebox  Online
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and I mentioned halo 3 where? I don't remember spending all my days distoling the virtues of halo 3...don't remember mentioning it once...odd how IF i dont like killzone 2 that must mean my opinion is wrong and i love halo 3 right? Couldn't be that both games have problems? but the proof being in the pudding shows that halo 3 has outscored killzone 2, and outsold it by what 3x? it all so has more people playing it online concurrently and thats proven by intensive stats we'll likely never see out of gurilla.

WilliamRLBaker

And did I ever say your opinion is wrong?

You completely missed the point which was you think everyone who liked the game bought into the hype, which is just ridiculous.

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#92 WilliamRLBaker
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1.Subjective, i love the controls they are really easy to handell of you have the trigger on r1 instead.

Subjective yet many people agree with me...infact so many people that they've released how many updates to the game within the first month of its release trying to fix the trashy control?

2. I don't need ut to be realistic, just working.
Um....but its not working, its a horrible control system and its horrible because instead of it being realistic where a TRUE soldier could reload his weapon much faster it takes this SLOWWWWWW animation time to show you bringing your weapon up taking the magazine out, then slowly putting another in...thats useless wasted time for PRETTIES.

3. They are linear yes, but i like it like that, it's not supposed to be a sandbox game.
Sandbox game...linear you sure like to make jumps there like you made any point at all, One doesn't have to have a open world sandbox game for it not to be so linear that its one step above a long corridor of enemies jumping out.

4. How, they only use sixasis for a very small part of the game, you can't be so damn picky, and that with the sniper, i usually only use my analog.
thats not the point the sixaxis should have never been used it was a useless shoehorn attempt for sony to prove...SEE we didn't just shoehorn motion sensing into our controller cause nintendo scared the hell out of us e3 2006 with their motion sensing, and last i checked I AM allowed to be picky i am the consumer and im allowed to my opinion and you didn't even bring any thing up to prove me wrong about the sniping you just said you used the analog which i did as well but because motion sensing is all ways on if you move your controller at all it moves the cross hair.

5. You are telling me, you went on hard difficulty, guns and blazing into a pile of enemies, you're lying really badly.
lets see #6 the game is easy on recruit its no more harder on trooper the jump between those 2 is so small that i don't expect me to be that hard on the next level with the only high difficulty reason on elite is because they take the hud and cross hair out.

6. Anybody can beat easy difficulty- You're lying. Go in with a knife, without a coversystem on a harder difficulty, put it on youtube and then show me how well you do.
LOL cover system...um just duck and go behind some cover? you don't really need to use the actual cover system in this game since its inanely unintuitive the AI in this game is stupid. I remember one place on the 2nd or 3rd level where you go across a small bridge up some stairs to some gun implacements about 10-12 enemies appear along the short path of bridge, stairs and gun implacements i ran into the fray on trooper with my knife and killed every single one of them.

7. Yes, your supposed to be tactical with your ammunition, you complain about it not being realistic enough, yet you complain when a thing like limited ammo. What about the few hundred thousands of people who still play it each damn day? Are they still under the illusion the hype even after experiencing the game for a few months?
Um what are you talking about? i never said any thing about ammunition I SAID that when you find a new weapon more often then not you only get to use it for a limited set of time and cannot use it in other levels.
EXAMPLE: arc gun it appears in one level has unlimited ammo...AND NEVER appears again you have it and then the game is like sorry we give you stock weapon now you no longer get to use arc gun that gun appears once in the single player its a useless addition if you can't use it other places and its the same with nearly all the other special weapons in the game I used the sniper once on the bridge where your specifically TOLD to use it other then that it doesn't appear much in the game to use.


LOL few houndred thousand? and you have access to these figures how? i dont see it being any more then 50k a day where as halo 3 we have ACTUAL PROOF that it gets at most 200-300k people a day.

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#93 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

and I mentioned halo 3 where? I don't remember spending all my days distoling the virtues of halo 3...don't remember mentioning it once...odd how IF i dont like killzone 2 that must mean my opinion is wrong and i love halo 3 right? Couldn't be that both games have problems? but the proof being in the pudding shows that halo 3 has outscored killzone 2, and outsold it by what 3x? it all so has more people playing it online concurrently and thats proven by intensive stats we'll likely never see out of gurilla.

zarshack

logic would usually show that if more people bought it more people would be online currently playing it. popular =/= better, so that part of your argument doesnt mean anything, more people playing it is just a really pathetic argument and so is sales, the only valid point is score.

So score matters more, even though nearly every big site has been circumspect at somepoint with being paid off? so score matters even if all the reviewers are paid for said scores? thats just silly sorry to say but POPULARITY and people purchasing a product is much more important then score. Do you actually believe that developers look at scores? over sales and people using their product? you actually believe that? so let me get this straight a company releases a product that will only appeal to the minority of reviewers of said product type no common consumer will purchase said product because of word of mouth and not review scores...yet the company considers that a success because it got great scores yet isn't selling at all to most consumers? *shakes head* simply put systemwars will need to learn outside of system wars scores don't mean squat the user cares about what his friends are playing and what he's heard is good, companies care about the amount of sales and the amount of people using their product they could give less about scores, scores are only a means to get sales.
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#94 davaniius
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The only valid point is if you like a game then play it. If you don't like it, don't play it. I don't see why people are making threads about games they don't like.

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#95 makincopies
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Seriously the amount of people online is a joke compared to COD. Killzone 2 didnt have any lasting power like the Halo's and COD's of the world because the controls are complete rubbish and its on PS3. Didnt sell very well either. It's quickly become the red headed step child of the fps genre.

leonalabasters
you can change the controls to make them exactly like cod
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

The game would have to measure up to the competition at least. Seeing how KZ is in direct competition with CoD why would you think anything else?nmaharg

It scored the same as CoD4, so it obviously measures up to it. There are plenty of people online and GG will be adding content plenty to keep people interested.

Review scores mean nothing. Most are written by a bunch of failed writer who could only get a job writing game reviews.

Of course they are, and why is that? Because their reviews dont agree with you? i know your type... and eventually your just going to have to give up because you know your wrong everyone in this thread knows your wrong and at the moment your just holdingon by theskin of your teethin your arguments.

Killzone 2 was an amazing game, it didnt sell as much as Cod4 or Halo 3 because it was released at the beggining of the year! a few months after christmas where everyones got their games and then it didnt get caught up in the christmas rush like halo 3 or Cod did. But that dosent change the fact that it takes less than half a minute to get a 32 man online match. Oh and i dont see a problem with the Killzone 2 forums every language's forum is doing great.

And honestly Using the controls as an argument? do you really have such a low brain power you cant go to the settings and change them? there is a setting in there exactly like cod4's.

Stop using false information and get a real argument for gods sake.

http://www.killzone.com/kz/forums.psml

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I love this games SP & MP. A lot of people play it, too. A lot of people talk about it on the official Killzone.com forums.

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#98 davaniius
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Anybody fps fan who thinks this game isn't good is in denial.

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#99 Irick_cb
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Anybody fps fan who thinks this game isn't good is in denial.

davaniius

I'm in denial about a lot of things.

Killzone 2 isn't one of of them.

I love it.

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#100 Jono789
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[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="davaniius"]

Anybody fps fan who thinks this game isn't good is in denial.

I'm in denial about a lot of things.

Killzone 2 isn't one of of them.

I love it.

Now does this deserve a cookie.... *COOKIE WITH SMOKE PARTICLE EFFECTS!*