killzone 2 visuals vs Gears of War visuals who wins??

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#101 def_mode
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[QUOTE="PCgamer687"][QUOTE="def_mode"] do u have a ps3? have u seen kz2? 60 inch hdtv? ive played gears2 for quite sometime now and i gotta tell you KZ2 tops gears2 anyday of the week, twice on sundays. Gears2 DOES look good dont get me wrong but KZ2's visuals is something never seen before in consoles.onewiththegame

ignore "grr320" that comment alone just goes to show you hes never played or seen killzone 2 aside from the internet lol

I've played alot of K2 and I agree with grr320

well, i dont know. im no fanboy whatsoever. i love my soncoles and my games but cmon KZ2 is visually better, but hey its ur opinion right?
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#102 PCgamer687
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="PCgamer687"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

I've played alot of K2 and I agree with grr320

so i take it you beat the game? and i take it you've played things like the trian level were the wind effect everything you do , including move speed, shooting, and tossing nades? and i take it you played the last level which looks dam amazing and puts all other console games to rest?

did I hurt your feelings?

I can't be bothered to play the sp (the story is just bad) the mp is great but I do think the graphics are way way overrated

imo Gears2 bests it in almost every way

tbh yeah my feelings are so hurt :P and you havent played hte single player...well SP graphics > multiplayer graphics for both games, you should really go play the single player, or you wouldnt be disagreeing
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#103 GreyFoXX4
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Developer blog with old playable footage of KZ2, showing comparisons of actuall released game and old 2006 test game.

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#104 def_mode
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="PCgamer687"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

I've played alot of K2 and I agree with grr320

so i take it you beat the game? and i take it you've played things like the trian level were the wind effect everything you do , including move speed, shooting, and tossing nades? and i take it you played the last level which looks dam amazing and puts all other console games to rest?

did I hurt your feelings?

I can't be bothered to play the sp (the story is just bad) the mp is great but I do think the graphics are way way overrated

imo Gears2 bests it in almost every way

well im sorry, i think KZ2 looks better. although gears2 looks good also.
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#105 CyanX73
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Gears has better anti aliasing.

Killzone 2 has better everything else.

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#106 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="PCgamer687"] so i take it you beat the game? and i take it you've played things like the trian level were the wind effect everything you do , including move speed, shooting, and tossing nades? and i take it you played the last level which looks dam amazing and puts all other console games to rest?PCgamer687

did I hurt your feelings?

I can't be bothered to play the sp (the story is just bad) the mp is great but I do think the graphics are way way overrated

imo Gears2 bests it in almost every way

tbh yeah my feelings are so hurt :P and you havent played hte single player...well SP graphics > multiplayer graphics for both games, you should really go play the single player, or you wouldnt be disagreeing

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings and I'm sorry lol

I played the first 2 lvl of the sp but it just didn't hook me (the story or lack of didn't help) but even in the sp I was alittle disappointed by the graphic, so much

hype and I just didn't see anything special this is all IMO its a great game and the online is crazy fun (warzone anyone) but I dont think of it as the graphic king

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#107 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="PCgamer687"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

did I hurt your feelings?

I can't be bothered to play the sp (the story is just bad) the mp is great but I do think the graphics are way way overrated

imo Gears2 bests it in almost every way

tbh yeah my feelings are so hurt :P and you havent played hte single player...well SP graphics > multiplayer graphics for both games, you should really go play the single player, or you wouldnt be disagreeing

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings and I'm sorry lol

I played the first 2 lvl of the sp but it just didn't hook me (the story or lack of didn't help) but even in the sp I was alittle disappointed by the graphic, so much

hype and I just didn't see anything special this is all IMO its a great game and the online is crazy fun (warzone anyone) but I dont think of it as the graphic king

Wow you need to update your profile. There isn't even one ps3 game listed. So for now and prior to noticing this your words is a grain of salt to me lol.
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#108 WhySoSerious300
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Not this again! Killzone 2's pre alpha can even destroy Gears 2

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#109 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="PCgamer687"]tbh yeah my feelings are so hurt :P and you havent played hte single player...well SP graphics > multiplayer graphics for both games, you should really go play the single player, or you wouldnt be disagreeingGreyFoXX4

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings and I'm sorry lol

I played the first 2 lvl of the sp but it just didn't hook me (the story or lack of didn't help) but even in the sp I was alittle disappointed by the graphic, so much

hype and I just didn't see anything special this is all IMO its a great game and the online is crazy fun (warzone anyone) but I dont think of it as the graphic king

Wow you need to update your profile. There isn't even one ps3 game listed. So for now and prior to noticing this your words is a grain of salt to me lol.

lol ok

lucky for me I dont care if you believe me or not, and when did I say I had the game? just cuz I dont own it doesn't mean I haven't played it (for about 12 hours) and eveything I said is true imo and I take it that your own Gears? if not I take your word for a grain of salt lol

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#110 onewiththegame
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Not this again! Killzone 2's pre alpha can even destroy Gears 2

WhySoSerious300

if you dont own Gears your can't talk, just ask the guy with the salt...I kid

kilzone is a great game

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#111 WhySoSerious300
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[QUOTE="WhySoSerious300"]

Not this again! Killzone 2's pre alpha can even destroy Gears 2

onewiththegame

if you dont own Gears your can't talk, just ask the guy with the salt

I have played Gears 1 and 2. They do look sexy but Killzone 2 just demolishes.

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#112 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="WhySoSerious300"]

Not this again! Killzone 2's pre alpha can even destroy Gears 2

WhySoSerious300

if you dont own Gears your can't talk, just ask the guy with the salt

I have played Gears 1 and 2. They do look sexy but Killzone 2 just demolishes.

I was just joking around, and yes they all (gears, kilzone) look sexy

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#113 Bazfrag
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Whoever wins, fanboys are still the ultimate losers.
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#114 AnnoyedDragon
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do u have a ps3? have u seen kz2? 60 inch hdtv?def_mode

Just jumping in because comments like this always bother me.

When are people going to learn that screen size =/= quality? Bigger screens just mean more image scaling, the image is 720p regardless of the size of the TV showing it.

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#115 def_mode
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[QUOTE="def_mode"] do u have a ps3? have u seen kz2? 60 inch hdtv?AnnoyedDragon

Just jumping in because comments like this always bother me.

When are people going to learn that screen size =/= quality? Bigger screens just mean more image scaling, the image is 720p regardless of the size of the TV showing it.

well having a bigger scree definitely changes the feel of the game. you can see things better. I like to play games on a bigger screen than the smaller ones.
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#116 itzagir
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Comparing it to Crysis on high settings makes more sense imo. GEARS 2 isnt in the same breath graphically as KZ2.

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cool story bro.
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#117 AnnoyedDragon
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Just jumping in because comments like this always bother me.

When are people going to learn that screen size =/= quality? Bigger screens just mean more image scaling, the image is 720p regardless of the size of the TV showing it.

def_mode

well having a bigger scree definitely changes the feel of the game. you can see things better. I like to play games on a bigger screen than the smaller ones.

It makes the image look bigger, that's it, if that is all you were on about then no problem.

I just get irritated when people boast about their 50"+ 1080p TVs; as if that means anything when a 720p image is being stretched across it.

Comparing it to Crysis on high settings makes more sense imo. GEARS 2 isnt in the same breath graphically as KZ2.

Gamersince81

And this is why people get angry at PS3 users, hardware common sense need not apply.

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#118 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings and I'm sorry lol

I played the first 2 lvl of the sp but it just didn't hook me (the story or lack of didn't help) but even in the sp I was alittle disappointed by the graphic, so much

hype and I just didn't see anything special this is all IMO its a great game and the online is crazy fun (warzone anyone) but I dont think of it as the graphic king

Wow you need to update your profile. There isn't even one ps3 game listed. So for now and prior to noticing this your words is a grain of salt to me lol.

lol ok

lucky for me I dont care if you believe me or not, and when did I say I had the game? just cuz I dont own it doesn't mean I haven't played it (for about 12 hours) and eveything I said is true imo and I take it that your own Gears? if not I take your word for a grain of salt lol

If you looked at my profile you'll see that I do own gears and played it when I had a 360, which wasn't for long but never the less I did play it and own it.
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#119 muscleserge
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"] well having a bigger scree definitely changes the feel of the game. you can see things better. I like to play games on a bigger screen than the smaller ones.AnnoyedDragon

It makes the image look bigger, that's it, if that is all you were on about then no problem.

I just get irritated when people boast about their 50"+ 1080p TVs; as if that means anything when a 720p image is being stretched across it.

Comparing it to Crysis on high settings makes more sense imo. GEARS 2 isnt in the same breath graphically as KZ2.

Gamersince81

And this is why people get angry at PS3 users, hardware common sense need not apply.

For once I would like cows to back something with screenshots, even cutscene screenshots.
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#120 McdonaIdsGuy
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Marginal differences cows like always overrating the graphics..
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#121 NinjaMunkey01
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Marginal differences cows like always overrating the graphics..McdonaIdsGuy
Marginal? Played the game, I mean actually played it yourself? Its incredible, the textures, OMG the lighting!!! the animations, the audio, just EVERYTHING!!!! Even little things, like when you throw a grenade and theres a wid the smoke will actually trail off with the wind instead of just fading, and the destructability is brilliant!!! The amount of enemies on screen, the sheer SIZE of the levels, the detail!!! The difference is pretty big imo, and owning both, my mind is made up...
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#122 AnnoyedDragon
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texturesNinjaMunkey01

This is something else that keeps being brought up and I don't know why, Killzone has some of the most blurry and smudged looking console textures I have seen in recent years. The depth of the bump mapping/normal maps is pretty shallow as well.

It seems it makes allot of memory based sacrifices to accommodates Cells additional calculation work, which the post processing helps cover up.

-edit

Of course that's ram I am thinking of and not vram, so I have to wonder what the texture memory justifications are.

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#123 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]Marginal differences cows like always overrating the graphics..NinjaMunkey01
Marginal? Played the game, I mean actually played it yourself? Its incredible, the textures, OMG the lighting!!! the animations, the audio, just EVERYTHING!!!! Even little things, like when you throw a grenade and theres a wid the smoke will actually trail off with the wind instead of just fading, and the destructability is brilliant!!! The amount of enemies on screen, the sheer SIZE of the levels, the detail!!! The difference is pretty big imo, and owning both, my mind is made up...

I have both and i disagree with you,especially with the part of the amount of enemies on the screen lol you dont see more than 10 guys at once lol.
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#124 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]texturesAnnoyedDragon

This is something else that keeps being brought up and I don't know why, Killzone has some of the most blurry and smudged looking console textures I have seen in recent years. The depth of the bump mapping/normal maps is pretty shallow as well.

It seems it makes allot of memory based sacrifices to accommodates Cells additional calculation work, which the post processing helps cover up.

KZ2 doesn't even use bump maps,is mostly flat textures..and the enviroments are made with handdraw and use a program that creates cheap buildings each on top of each other.
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#125 Rhubarb9
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KZ2, anyone who denys it is a lemming with fanboy glasses on.

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#126 EmperorSupreme
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This is, by far, the best graphics comparison for these two games out there. It actually talks about the graphics engines and compares the various effects used in the games.

Killzone 2 vs. Gears 2 Graphics Comparison

Rikusaki
That's a good comparison and it doesn't even show off the best levels in KZ2. I'm surprised people are debating this pretty much every reviewer has stated KZ2 is the game to beat graphically.
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#127 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]texturesMcdonaIdsGuy

This is something else that keeps being brought up and I don't know why, Killzone has some of the most blurry and smudged looking console textures I have seen in recent years. The depth of the bump mapping/normal maps is pretty shallow as well.

It seems it makes allot of memory based sacrifices to accommodates Cells additional calculation work, which the post processing helps cover up.

KZ2 doesn't even use bump maps,is mostly flat textures..and the enviroments are made with handdraw and use a program that creates cheap buildings each on top of each other.

And KZ2 still looks better, how did they do it?
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

This is something else that keeps being brought up and I don't know why, Killzone has some of the most blurry and smudged looking console textures I have seen in recent years. The depth of the bump mapping/normal maps is pretty shallow as well.

It seems it makes allot of memory based sacrifices to accommodates Cells additional calculation work, which the post processing helps cover up.

EmperorSupreme

KZ2 doesn't even use bump maps,is mostly flat textures..and the enviroments are made with handdraw and use a program that creates cheap buildings each on top of each other.

And KZ2 still looks better, how did they do it?



In your opinion,in my opinion there is game that look the same if not better,,but is that my opinion.

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Whichever game is on the platform with the most fanboys on GameSpot at the time tends to win...SpruceCaboose

Basically what he said........but in reality who cares!!!

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#130 TheAnnihilation
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Killzone 2, of course!

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#131 MBP_King
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Gamers who own both games are the winners! :)
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#132 TX360
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[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="grr320"][QUOTE="Panther501"]

KZ2, anyone who denys it is a lemming with fanboy glasses on.

unreal engine 3 is better at textures atleast on pc.

we are talking consoles i think

Unreal engine = old Yet somehow gears 2 is not far off now imagine 4 years dev time for gears 3 it would be graphics king in an instant.
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#133 DonPerian
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Killzone 2 looks better but I'm not a fan of the constantly drab environments. They're both great looking games and we should leave it at that.
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#134 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="TX360"] Unreal engine = old Yet somehow gears 2 is not far off now imagine 4 years dev time for gears 3 it would be graphics king in an instant.

The technology behind Gears the Unreal Engine has been in constant development for over 10 years now. EPIC was working on their technology before KZ2 was even a thought in someones mind. Gears is one of their showcase games that demonstrates to other developers what is possible, as such it should blow everything else out of the water. That is how they get people to license their technology and that is how EPIC gets paid. And it pretty much does do it's job on X360. GEARS2>>> than any other game on X360. Just not as good as KZ2
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#135 mamkem6
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Does it really meter?

Both games look superb

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#136 jhcho2
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Hah! that video only showcases the demo level (ie. first level) of Killzone 2 and it is already enough to prove the point that Killzone 2 is better. In my opinion, the first stage isn't even the best looking stage. I personally think Blood Meridian, Suljeva Sniper Area, Salumun Bridge, and the Train stages are the best looking ones. I wish someone would make a video comparing Blood Meridian stage to Gears of War 2. And as for the character models presentation, they compared the worst shot in Killzone 2 with Gears 2. The video was the demo build, and the demo had nothing to show. The best character model showcase is the beggining before the first stage on the New Sun, and basically every other in-game cutscene. That video barely showed any of Killzone 2's strong points.

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#137 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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Killzone 2 looks better, quite a bit better actually.

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#138 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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Marginal differences cows like always overrating the graphics..McdonaIdsGuy
well everyone knows you're a lem, so its not surprising you apparently think cows overrate the graphics. they arent overrated at all, they are amazing.
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#139 delta3074
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i personally can't compare the 2, one is a TPS (gears 2) and the other is an fps, no matter how many comparison videos i see, i can't say one is better than the other, gears 2 does everything well as third person shooter and killzone 2 does everything well as a third person shooter. i don't think it's fair to compare a tps to an fps, they both suffer from some seriously low res textures, the lighting is def better on killzone 2, but thats about it and i have seen better particle effects than both in other games (check out explosions in fear 2 whilst in reflex mode)
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And as for the character models presentation, they compared the worst shot in Killzone 2 with Gears 2. The video was the demo build, and the demo had nothing to show. The best character model showcase is the beggining before the first stage on the New Sun, and basically every other in-game cutscene. That video barely showed any of Killzone 2's strong points.

jhcho2



lol better character models? the game has the same character models from the beginning to the end..is not like they add extra polygons and details in different levels :roll:

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i personally can't compare the 2, one is a TPS (gears 2) and the other is an fps, no matter how many comparison videos i see, i can't say one is better than the other, gears 2 does everything well as third person shooter and killzone 2 does everything well as a third person shooter. i don't think it's fair to compare a tps to an fps, they both suffer from some seriously low res textures, the lighting is def better on killzone 2, but thats about it and i have seen better particle effects than both in other games (check out explosions in fear 2 whilst in reflex mode)delta3074

Yeah, those comparisons are vain.

If you can, enjoy both, but if you can't, enjoy with what you have

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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]Marginal differences cows like always overrating the graphics..idontbeliveit
well everyone knows you're a lem, so its not surprising you apparently think cows overrate the graphics. they arent overrated at all, they are amazing.

Ok and what does that has to do with anything? your opinion =|= my opinion.
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[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]Marginal differences cows like always overrating the graphics..McdonaIdsGuy
well everyone knows you're a lem, so its not surprising you apparently think cows overrate the graphics. they arent overrated at all, they are amazing.

Ok and what does that has to do with anything? your opinion =|= my opinion.

wat do you mean "wat has that got to do with anything?" do you not pay attention to wat you type? cows dont overrate the graphics cuz its a critically acclaimed fact that the visals in KZ2 are amazing. if YOU dont think it looks good, fair enough. just saying the visuals arent overrated.
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#144 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]Marginal differences cows like always overrating the graphics..McdonaIdsGuy
well everyone knows you're a lem, so its not surprising you apparently think cows overrate the graphics. they arent overrated at all, they are amazing.

Ok and what does that has to do with anything? your opinion =|= my opinion.

Ahh... the age old "it's my opinion".

Graphical aspects that aren't marginal at all: Animations, particle effects, post processing effects and lighting. KZ2 is clearly better in each of these.

Graphical aspects that are marginal: Character models and textures. These are quite close. Except for KZ2's MP has better textures than Gears 2 MP.

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#145 TREAL_Since
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Not only that, but there's a crap load more stuff going on in KZ2. Bigger maps, 32 players, noticeably better graphics in most areas. If that's not better than I don't know what is. But this is such an old discussion. I think when Kevin V said (I'm paraphrasing), "Killzone 2 is the most visually advanced game ever" the argument should have been over.
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#146 delta3074
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="idontbeliveit"] well everyone knows you're a lem, so its not surprising you apparently think cows overrate the graphics. they arent overrated at all, they are amazing.idontbeliveit
Ok and what does that has to do with anything? your opinion =|= my opinion.

wat do you mean "wat has that got to do with anything?" do you not pay attention to wat you type? cows dont overrate the graphics cuz its a critically acclaimed fact that the visals in KZ2 are amazing. if YOU dont think it looks good, fair enough. just saying the visuals arent overrated.

you obviously don't pay attention either WHAT and VISUALS, a lot of people i have spoken too said that killzone 2 has good graphics but they where dissapointed because it wasn't as good as sony said it would be, it may beat gears of war 2, but it does not beat it by the amount you cows claim.
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#147 Animal-Mother
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Killzone 2 obviously. But Gears 2 is still a beautiful game.

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Sums it up nicely
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#148 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"] Ok and what does that has to do with anything? your opinion =|= my opinion.delta3074
wat do you mean "wat has that got to do with anything?" do you not pay attention to wat you type? cows dont overrate the graphics cuz its a critically acclaimed fact that the visals in KZ2 are amazing. if YOU dont think it looks good, fair enough. just saying the visuals arent overrated.

you obviously don't pay attention either WHAT and VISUALS, a lot of people i have spoken too said that killzone 2 has good graphics but they where dissapointed because it wasn't as good as sony said it would be, it may beat gears of war 2, but it does not beat it by the amount you cows claim.

Good as Sony said it would be? When? Where? No one from Sony ever said KZ2 would look better than it does. Not even Jack Tretton at E305. He was referring to the Resistance Fall of Man trailer when he said "it's all real time".
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#149 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="idontbeliveit"] well everyone knows you're a lem, so its not surprising you apparently think cows overrate the graphics. they arent overrated at all, they are amazing.TREAL_Since

Ok and what does that has to do with anything? your opinion =|= my opinion.

Ahh... the age old "it's my opinion".

Graphical aspects that aren't marginal at all: Animations, particle effects, post processing effects and lighting. KZ2 is clearly better in each of these.

Graphical aspects that are marginal: Character models and textures. These are quite close. Except for KZ2's MP has better textures than Gears 2 MP.

Yes your opinion isn't a fact like or not!(neither is mine of course) but at least i don't blow out of proportion things!,puff particle effects you mean things that disappear in half second lol.
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#150 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

This is, by far, the best graphics comparison for these two games out there. It actually talks about the graphics engines and compares the various effects used in the games.

Killzone 2 vs. Gears 2 Graphics Comparison

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That's a good comparison and it doesn't even show off the best levels in KZ2. I'm surprised people are debating this pretty much every reviewer has stated KZ2 is the game to beat graphically.

so why did ign score gears 2 higher in the graphics department?