Killzone 3 still KILLZOWNS Halo 4 (no 56k)

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#101 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] Why'd you stop working for them? Got a full time job being an idiot on System Wars? The worst thing you could've done was tell me you were a self-important douche-bag, coz now I see you arguing almost every day on System Wars. You should have told me you were a 11 year old school kid. Then I would've been impressed. You've got a bit of a reputation here, anyhow. It's not a pretty reputation. Even campzor can't find the integrity to defend you right now. You can start by replying to my other comment about Killzone's A.I. You can use your fantastic Democratic rhetoric skills to fact find, fact check, and re-engineer the argument to serve your purpose. Consider the animation cycles, the way the levels are designed, the Team A.I/Enemy A.I dynamic, and the use of scripted events to help encourage Killzone's A.I to perform at its fullest potential. I've got my popcorn and its sitting on Michael Jackson's lap. I'm actually excited to be debating a full on professional who previously worked for the Democrats. Apologies if the debate will be slow, because I've totally got to do some unimportant things like cooking dinner and filing my taxes this evening. But later on tonight I'll jump on System Wars to further debase myself.ShadowMoses900

a few weeks ago he was here "researching" and studying SW for a company :lol: the dude is a compulsive liar. i honestly never believe a word he says.

Here is the office I used to work for: Democratic Party of Oregon

The research thing was not a few weeks ago, it was several months ago. And it was obvious that I was trolling, can't believe you didn't notice that considering you do the same thing on here all the time.

My University has an intern-job program with political parties for students that take Government classes etc...and a variety of other such classes.

cool fictional story bro. i used to play for the Houston Texans. I have a link to prove it too http://www.houstontexans.com/

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#102 Reiko2K1
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The game may look better, but in all honesty Killzone 3 was a letdown. No co-op, mediocre multiplayer, and a terrible left open sp experience. Halo has addicting MP, forge mode, coop firefight, coop sp experience and just overall a lot better.GhettoBlastin92

gpuking chose some very selective shots from the leak... The game gets more visually impressive when you step outisde...

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#103 jg4xchamp
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I knew you were David Carr.
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#104 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="GhettoBlastin92"]MP, forge mode, coop firefight, coop sp experience and just overall a lot better.jg4xchamp

a lot of content for the sake of content.

something for everyone, i never touch firefight or forge but i know people who only play those two modes
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#105 mems_1224
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I knew you were David Carr. jg4xchamp
yup, i got two super bowl rings now too. hi haters :cool:

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#106 GhettoBlastin92
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="GhettoBlastin92"]MP, forge mode, coop firefight, coop sp experience and just overall a lot better.mems_1224

a lot of content for the sake of content.

something for everyone, i never touch firefight or forge but i know people who only play those two modes

Exactly.
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#107 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] a few weeks ago he was here "researching" and studying SW for a company :lol: the dude is a compulsive liar. i honestly never believe a word he says.mems_1224

Here is the office I used to work for: Democratic Party of Oregon

The research thing was not a few weeks ago, it was several months ago. And it was obvious that I was trolling, can't believe you didn't notice that considering you do the same thing on here all the time.

My University has an intern-job program with political parties for students that take Government classes etc...and a variety of other such classes.

cool fictional story bro. i used to play for the Houston Texans. I have a link to prove it too http://www.houstontexans.com/

Lol you are a funny guy, I'll give you that. But I don't care about proving my life on the internet to people. believe whatever you want. See ya later.

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#108 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="GhettoBlastin92"]MP, forge mode, coop firefight, coop sp experience and just overall a lot better.jg4xchamp

a lot of content for the sake of content.

I wouldn't say that recently. Halo Reach's campaign seemed to be designed to fully accomodate 4 players, Forge mode is beast, and multiplayer is great. Only mode I'm not too fond of is Firefight.

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#109 darkkillerr
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ehhh ok .. before i saw the grunt, i tough it was the same game so it look the same...

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#110 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Here is the office I used to work for: Democratic Party of Oregon

The research thing was not a few weeks ago, it was several months ago. And it was obvious that I was trolling, can't believe you didn't notice that considering you do the same thing on here all the time.

My University has an intern-job program with political parties for students that take Government classes etc...and a variety of other such classes.

ShadowMoses900

cool fictional story bro. i used to play for the Houston Texans. I have a link to prove it too http://www.houstontexans.com/

Lol you are a funny guy, I'll give you that. But I don't care about proving my life on the internet to people. believe whatever you want. See ya later.

clearly you do care about proving your life to people if you have a different lie every week about what you do
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#111 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Maybe a new job a week is required for a hustler like ShadowMoses

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#113 ShadowMoses900
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If you want to see a good video on this topic, watch this: IGN Grudge Match: Killzone 2 vs. Halo 3

It's very well done and not biased at all and they both argue good points in favor as to why they find one to be better over the other.

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#114 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I knew you were David Carr. mems_1224

yup, i got two super bowl rings now too. hi haters :cool:

1, he wasn't on the 07 giants team.
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#115 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="GhettoBlastin92"]MP, forge mode, coop firefight, coop sp experience and just overall a lot better.mems_1224

a lot of content for the sake of content.

something for everyone, i never touch firefight or forge but i know people who only play those two modes

Forge is fine but poorly executed. They need to stop with the budget sh1t(what is the point, if you're gonna put a limit?), and get a way so you can actually fix the look of your maps. That gray environment sh1t was terrible. At least with sandbox the colors were more flattering.

Firefight is fine in terms of how they did the matchmaking, but they should have had better thought out maps. Too many of them are small, and there is nothing like lost Platoon where you can go ham just messing people up in vehicles. It seems like the maps were better suited for the quick 15 minute sessions, and less for the big extensive stuff. As the more usual hold a fort down stuff those maps just didn't cut the mustard. Like stuff like Corvette was just dumb. You're gonna get clowned from multiple angles. Also firefight vs should not have been limited to 2 v 2, and nor should it have been only on the coop netcode. More importantly, why were the coop servers not up to snuff with the mp servers. That sh1t was annoying.

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#116 Master_ShakeXXX
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Both are lame, so there.

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#117 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I knew you were David Carr. jg4xchamp

yup, i got two super bowl rings now too. hi haters :cool:

1, he wasn't on the 07 giants team.

you mean i wasn't on the 07 giants team <_< >_>
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#118 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="GhettoBlastin92"]MP, forge mode, coop firefight, coop sp experience and just overall a lot better.OB-47

a lot of content for the sake of content.

I wouldn't say that recently. Halo Reach's campaign seemed to be designed to fully accomodate 4 players, Forge mode is beast, and multiplayer is great. Only mode I'm not too fond of is Firefight.

The campaigns adjustment is that the enemies are more spongy, which actually if anything takes away from the gameplay. On one hand you lose that sense of badassery you actually get from playing a spartan on top of making the gunplay more of a chore, and on the other hand you're using some straight up cheap game design to make your game feel like a challenge. Halo 3 might have been a joke in coop, but to its credit it didn't shy away from that or try to cheapen that scenario.

I mean the only real issue with Halo coop isn't so much that the design is out right bad for it, as much as we've gotten so many coop games this gen that are specifically built for coop. It just exposes how old that tacked on coop design is when you've got other options better suited for coop. Not saying it's an addition they should drop, but while it was a bullet point in 2001, now it's just a decent expectation that frankly doesn't hold much weight. I would say there are plenty of major missed opportunities in mp.

Like why doesn't custom games have its own matchmaking? I want to play some of my stupid game modes with other people who want to join in on our stupid games. Gears of war had a public matchmaking for 1 if I remember right, or at least there was a way randoms could just join your lobby and map rotation. Also stuff like Invasion, which sounded cool, but then got crippled on two front. One hand you gimped the way more awesome elites from the Beta, and on top of that only giving it two maps. Oh and apparently making forge versions for it was a pain in the ass also, because I can't think of one Forge map that does proper invasion. Then there was stuff like Invasion slayer, which makes you wonder how with all the playtesting bungie does, they think that sh1t was appropriate. And it took them so long to come up with that new invasion slayer(forgetting the name of it, but it's done 10 thousand times better).

Halo's content is there, but there is so much of that comes off unfinished, are not thought out well enough. Be it Bungie's weird belief that all their maps are good for any mode imaginable when they aren't(blood gulch: team swat: WHY?) or something like hey since you went through the trouble of making sabres. Why not find a way to throw them in mp. Like say invasion, phase 3, right after they open the hatch, it becomes 6 v 6 dogfight in space.

But I'm gonna get called out for expecting too much here.

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#119 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] yup, i got two super bowl rings now too. hi haters :cool:mems_1224
1, he wasn't on the 07 giants team.

you mean i wasn't on the 07 giants team <_< >_>

Yes, I mean you weren't on the 07 giants team. You were with the Panthers.
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#120 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] 1, he wasn't on the 07 giants team.

you mean i wasn't on the 07 giants team <_< >_>

Yes, I mean you weren't on the 07 giants team. You were with the Panthers.

i kind of black that year out of my memory. you would to if you had to play in carolina
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#121 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] you mean i wasn't on the 07 giants team <_< >_>

Yes, I mean you weren't on the 07 giants team. You were with the Panthers.

i kind of black that year out of my memory. you would to if you had to play in carolina

Still wouldn't be as terrible as all those memories of playing behind the Texans line.
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#122 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Yes, I mean you weren't on the 07 giants team. You were with the Panthers.

i kind of black that year out of my memory. you would to if you had to play in carolina

Still wouldn't be as terrible as all those memories of playing behind the Texans line.

dom capers ruined my career. i could have been the first aaron rodgers if they had just put some random guy in at QB those first 3 years to take those hits. now look at me, every time i see a husky fellow walk in my direction i instinctively get into a fetal position.
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#123 Z-Fatalis
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Killzone is a fantastic game but the controls somewhat let it down, I think if Guerilla finally fix the dam controls then they will have one of the best FPS's

Halo on the other hand is just a rehash :D

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#124 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] i kind of black that year out of my memory. you would to if you had to play in carolina

Still wouldn't be as terrible as all those memories of playing behind the Texans line.

dom capers ruined my career. i could have been the first aaron rodgers if they had just put some random guy in at QB those first 3 years to take those hits. now look at me, every time i see a husky fellow walk in my direction i instinctively get into a fetal position.

It's true, killed your whole development. Blaine Gabbert is going into your territory also.
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#125 Ly_the_Fairy
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Both are lame, so there.

Master_ShakeXXX

Says a fan of Resistance

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#126 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Both are lame, so there.

Ly_the_Fairy

Says a fan of Resistance

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Normally I would agree with that comment. But Resistance 3s campaign isn't too shabby. Hell let me rephrase that, Resistance 3s weapons and the upgrade system for them isn't too shabby. Actually was really well executed. If that game had more interesting game design around those weapons it would have kicked some serious ass. As it stands it's a very by the book shooter, but with some fun ass weapons.
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#127 campzor
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if it werent for kz2 controls, it would have been a well done fps
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#128 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Both are lame, so there.

jg4xchamp

Says a fan of Resistance

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Normally I would agree with that comment. But Resistance 3s campaign isn't too shabby. Hell let me rephrase that, Resistance 3s weapons and the upgrade system for them isn't too shabby. Actually was really well executed. If that game had more interesting game design around those weapons it would have kicked some serious ass. As it stands it's a very by the book shooter, but with some fun ass weapons.

There are just too many better offerings when it comes to shooters.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Says a fan of Resistance

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Ly_the_Fairy

Normally I would agree with that comment. But Resistance 3s campaign isn't too shabby. Hell let me rephrase that, Resistance 3s weapons and the upgrade system for them isn't too shabby. Actually was really well executed. If that game had more interesting game design around those weapons it would have kicked some serious ass. As it stands it's a very by the book shooter, but with some fun ass weapons.

There are just too many better offerings when it comes to shooters.

Recently? 2 of the Stalker games, the first 2 crysis games, Cryostasis when you can get it to work, maybe Metro(and even then it's entirely for atmosphere/presentation, and less for the actual gameplay), and then I guess episode 2 in spite of the gunplay?

After that it's a bunch of stuff that is really only good in multiplayer, or good but come with their own different range of issues.

Not saying Resistance 3 is great by any stretch of the imagination, but as a solo experience it's good. It's actually not the absolute sh1t stains the first two games are.

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Recently? 2 of the Stalker games, the first 2 crysis games, Cryostasis when you can get it to work, maybe Metro(and even then it's entirely for atmosphere/presentation, and less for the actual gameplay), and then I guess episode 2 in spite of the gunplay?


After that it's a bunch of stuff that is really only good in multiplayer, or good but come with their own different range of issues.

Not saying Resistance 3 is great by any stretch of the imagination, but as a solo experience it's good. It's actually not the absolute sh1t stains the first two games are.

jg4xchamp

Well I haven't played many "recent" games in terms of the last year or two, but then again I don't think the time frame really matters.

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#132 silversix_
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Jaggies is the best way to describe KZ3, loads of them.
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#133 mitu123
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I played halo 4 at an expo yesterday, the multiplayer graphics are hugely superior to anything else I've seen on 360 343 is about to shut up a lot of ps3 fanboys.

sts106mat

Lucky, I want to play it now!

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#134 worknow222
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I played halo 4 at an expo yesterday, the multiplayer graphics are hugely superior to anything else I've seen on 360 343 is about to shut up a lot of ps3 fanboys.

sts106mat
bu,but gpuking said that halo 4 couldnt be?..............Are you telling me that he's wrong and all he's being is an insane fanboy/troll/unicorn?...................Ah man
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I played halo 4 at an expo yesterday, the multiplayer graphics are hugely superior to anything else I've seen on 360 343 is about to shut up a lot of ps3 fanboys.

sts106mat

If true a lot of ps3 fanboys will be crying to death.

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#136 Maneil99
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I played halo 4 at an expo yesterday, the multiplayer graphics are hugely superior to anything else I've seen on 360 343 is about to shut up a lot of ps3 fanboys.

sts106mat

As someone who jsut beat Halo 4 ( I can post Images if you want, but I would most likely be banned, the answer is no. The graphics are decent, but the attention to detail is missing, cutscenes are some of the greatest looking, shame that they are broken up by ugly close up in engine scenes. Very dissapointing ending, I'm not digging the MP map design at all. Of course I've been playing lan with only 10 People

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#138 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

I played halo 4 at an expo yesterday, the multiplayer graphics are hugely superior to anything else I've seen on 360 343 is about to shut up a lot of ps3 fanboys.

Maneil99

As someone who jsut beat Halo 4 ( I can post Images if you want, but I would most likely be banned, the answer is no. The graphics are decent, but the attention to detail is missing, cutscenes are some of the greatest looking, shame that they are broken up by ugly close up in engine scenes. Very dissapointing ending, I'm not digging the MP map design at all. Of course I've been playing lan with only 10 People

Wait don't you always diss Halo and everything it stands for? Why would you play and beat it...
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#139 worknow222
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[QUOTE="Maneil99"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

I played halo 4 at an expo yesterday, the multiplayer graphics are hugely superior to anything else I've seen on 360 343 is about to shut up a lot of ps3 fanboys.

walkingdream

As someone who jsut beat Halo 4 ( I can post Images if you want, but I would most likely be banned, the answer is no. The graphics are decent, but the attention to detail is missing, cutscenes are some of the greatest looking, shame that they are broken up by ugly close up in engine scenes. Very dissapointing ending, I'm not digging the MP map design at all. Of course I've been playing lan with only 10 People

Wait don't you always diss Halo and everything it stands for? Why would you play and beat it...

chances are he saw a stream of it and is pretending he played it,
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#140 PAL360
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I did watch some Halo 4 leaked vids, and i disagree. They both look pretty good. Halo 4 wins in scale, though.

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#141 PAL360
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I played halo 4 at an expo yesterday, the multiplayer graphics are hugely superior to anything else I've seen on 360 343 is about to shut up a lot of ps3 fanboys.

sts106mat

Just like Epic and Turn10 did last year. Good to know Halo 4 looks as good as seems from the vids!

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#142 ultraking
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] 1, he wasn't on the 07 giants team.

you mean i wasn't on the 07 giants team <_< >_>

Yes, I mean you weren't on the 07 giants team. You were with the Panthers.

oh god. Me and the whole city of charlotte are still trying to forget that
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#143 Rocker6
Member since 2009 • 13358 Posts

Well, judging by those pics, yeah, KZ3 visually does own Halo 4 at face value...

But we'll see how it compares with the rest of the game...

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#144 thedork_knight
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[QUOTE="TheDidact"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I disagree, I have had way more fun with KZ this gen than I have Halo. I find KZ to be the superior game and far more satisfying, Halo just isn't what it used to be. But to each his own.

ShadowMoses900

Did you play custom games? That's where the fun is now. Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_3Ul9NaZqM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ODGV3V3iI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT4duo_VAo0 These are just a few. Halo also popularized Rooster Teeth and Machinima (Two of the biggest YouTube Channels) with shows like Red vs Blue and Arby n the Chief (Which I recommend you check out. There is a lot of Lem bashing, especially in the episode God's Work where Mastur Chief tries to stop the Arbiter from playing Demon's Souls on his PS3)

I don't hate lems, they are just misguided people like all the other fanboys who are trying to justify their purchase. Fanboys are just stupid regardless of their faction.

Maybe like yourself?

and comparing KZ3 to a high end pc version of battlefield!!!! you having a laugh. BF destroys killzone.

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#145 After_Math
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I'd say Killzone has more detailed textures, while Halo has a better artstyle and goes for a cleaner look.
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#147 Peredith
Member since 2011 • 2289 Posts

They look about the same to me, except Killzone has bloom everywhere.

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#148 Overlord93
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Saving private ryan has better graphics than killzone. Doesn't make it a better game. Graphics in halo has and always will be a bonus. I'd play halo 4 if it still had CE graphics. Because it's gameplay is so far ahead of the competition it's embarrasing.
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#149 Reiko2K1
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A taste of what's to come...

Halo 4

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#150 T-razor1
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"So Halo 4 fankids are rejoicing over their first ever 720p Halo game in an euphoria state, but let's just remind them that KZ3 did all that two years ago andlooking substantially better even. In fact KZ3 looks so good next to it, you get the feeling Halo 4's detail level is set on medium."

Lol. Both games look great and it really comes down to artistic preference if you look at each game as a whole. You must admit that some of the comments you made are absurd.

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Again, both games look great. But I just think that Halo 4 looks better because it has a "cleaner" look. I mean for real some of the shots I've seen of this game looks like a damn painting that somehow was slapped into the damn engine. So again, saying stuff like KILLZOWNED sounds silly but nonsense like that is not surprising coming from you.

Again, I think Halo 4 looks better.