Killzone 3 still KILLZOWNS Halo 4 (no 56k)

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Both are lame, so there.

jg4xchamp

Says a fan of Resistance

This leads me to believe that you have no clue as to what you're talking about. Now I'm talking strictly the campaign here (the multiplayer was ass), but Resistance 3 is one of the ONLY shooters this gen that had interesting game design. From the beginning to the near end the game is constantly throwing you into new and interesting situations. It uses the tried and true concept of variety to keep the pace moving along, just like the shooting genre's greats do (RE4, Vanquish, Half-Life 2, Halo CE). I'm not saying Resistance 3 is on par with those games, but it borrows ideas from them (Half-Life 2, mostly) and mixes them with great success.

Let's take a look at the totally kick ass mission structure (SPOILERS):

• Early on the game puts you on this slow paced, creepy boat ride through a destroyed town that eventually leads up to a epic chase.
• At one point you're deep under ground with a preacher hunting a powerful monster that the survivors call "Satan". Before that you had to fight your way through a spooky village filled with it's zombified residents.
• After that you're on a train fighting off a group of bandits who want to pillage the f*ck out of you, and then the chase turns even more awesome when giant monsters show up and start f*cking up the bandits.
• After that you're in a bandit arena fighting for your life with a f*cking sledgehammer.

Towards the end the game does get less creative with it's scenarios, culminating in a big firefight on an alien ship (like we've never seen that before), but most of the events leading up to that were excellent. It's not just the awesome guns and cool upgrade system that made the campaign memorable. All of these elements came together into crafting one hell of an experience. I know that you loath Resistance as a whole, but sometimes ya just gotta give credit where it's due brah.

kz3 really doesn't look that good, its got a strong artistic point with the muddy look and tons of specular surfaces and ligthing, but I don't think it has much else going for it.

The reason they never fixed kz's controls was because they'd have to stabilize the framerate to do it.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

I played halo 4 at an expo yesterday, the multiplayer graphics are hugely superior to anything else I've seen on 360 343 is about to shut up a lot of ps3 fanboys.

Nengo_Flow

Just like Epic and Turn10 did last year. Good to know Halo 4 looks as good as seems from the vids!

I don't have (or need) an alt account, mate!

Sorry I cant see anything after Killzone's jaggies put my eyes out.

So far the Halo 4 footage I've seen has been underwhelming... pretty disappointing when it comes to graphics. It still looks like a good game though

anyway, Halo has never been about graphics, thats what Halo fans always said. Unfortunately, as an exclusive, it had to be bound as an impressive achievement by fanboys...

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

Well of course Killzone 3 looks better than Halo 4, Killzone 2 destroys Halo 4 graphics.

Even Resistance 3 looks better.

platniumgamer

Halo 4 has the best graphics ever.

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

mems_1224

Like I said, emotional.

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

ShadowMoses900

You guys are trying too hard.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

ShadowMoses900

Like I said, emotional.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

mems_1224

How old are you lol? "Ooooooooh look teh colours"

Bro it's an FPS not my little pony gtfo.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

Z-Fatalis

How old are you lol? "Ooooooooh look teh colours"

Bro it's an FPS not my little pony gtfo.

[QUOTE="gpuking"] Now it's pretty clear kz3's level of detail is simply superior, and the fxaa in H4 is really making the screen blurry.Innovazero2000

It's also evident that KZ's has a terrible alpha issues (as seen with the hair) and the AA/shimmering issues are prevalent. if you think H4 is going to look that blurry on the TV (I see more jpeg artifacts then anything here) your going to be surprised. KZ's detail looks like mush itself in those screens.

Halo can do scale and detail too. I believe this multiplayer?

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

Z-Fatalis

How old are you lol? "Ooooooooh look teh colours"

Bro it's an FPS not my little pony gtfo.

How low wiil you cows go with your damage control?

So, color = kiddy games? :?

Ever since Killzone 2, I think it's been pretty obvious that Halo cannot match the KZ series for both technical prowess and art direction. Even though I do most of my gaming on my PC these days, I hold to it that Guerilla did a commendable job of squeezing every available ounce of power out of the PS3, and their artists are some of the best in the industry.

In terms of actual technical stuff there probably isn't much difference between the engine Halo 4 uses and the engine Killzone 3 uses. However, I think that the real killing blow for why Sony's games always look so good is and has always been Sony's artists. Microsoft just can't keep up.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] nah, Halo being better is not debatable. more modes, more options, better community, etc...killzone doesnt even have the best graphics anymore. Halo 4 looks cleaner and a lot more colorful than the dull brown, black and gray in Killzone. truth hurts bruh, i know but just accept that killzone will never be in the same league as any halo gamemems_1224

Like I said, emotional.

If you want to troll me you'll have to do better than that.

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"] Now it's pretty clear kz3's level of detail is simply superior, and the fxaa in H4 is really making the screen blurry.ReadingRainbow4

It's also evident that KZ's has a terrible alpha issues (as seen with the hair) and the AA/shimmering issues are prevalent. if you think H4 is going to look that blurry on the TV (I see more jpeg artifacts then anything here) your going to be surprised. KZ's detail looks like mush itself in those screens.

Halo can do scale and detail too. I believe this multiplayer?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

mems_1224

u take others opinions FAR too serious...

Y so butthurt brah?

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Like I said, emotional.

ShadowMoses900

If you want to troll me you'll have to do better than that.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

Vatusus

u take others opinions FAR too serious...

Y so butthurt brah?

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

ShadowMoses900

FACT: Halo has bettter sales, bigger and more community support, better scores, more modes, user-created content, deeper lore, and is objectively better than Killzone in almost every way other than graphics. The reviews, sales, size of the community and extreme hype are proof.

Graphics are debatable. On a technical level, KZ wins, I can accept that. On an artistic level, however, it just depends on what you like more.

It is not subjective as to what game is better quality when the vast majority agree on 1. It just means there is a small minority that disagrees. In the real world, majority rules. Elections are decided by majority, Consumer products are decided by what the majority wants, and entertainment is decided by the majority. To say that Killzone>Halo is not wrong, but to deny that the majority disagrees with you is.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] its ok dude, you dont have to get mad. we all know you have a bad case of buyers remorse and its understandable. if i had nothing to look forward to except 1 game for the rest of the gen id be bummed too.mems_1224

If you want to troll me you'll have to do better than that.

Oh yes you know it. I am so angry! I can't believe people prefer Halo over Killzone, how dare they have a different opinion than I have! This really get's under my skin....

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"] Now it's pretty clear kz3's level of detail is simply superior, and the fxaa in H4 is really making the screen blurry.ReadingRainbow4

It's also evident that KZ's has a terrible alpha issues (as seen with the hair) and the AA/shimmering issues are prevalent. if you think H4 is going to look that blurry on the TV (I see more jpeg artifacts then anything here) your going to be surprised. KZ's detail looks like mush itself in those screens.

Halo can do scale and detail too. I believe this multiplayer?

Agreed that has to be the blandest thing I've seen in a while, the textures are so boring and repetitive this is pretty much what 80% of all Failo levels look like, not to mention every level is so simplistic they just put a few placeholders in each to try and populate it, not impressed but what else can you expect from a yearly rehash

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

It's also evident that KZ's has a terrible alpha issues (as seen with the hair) and the AA/shimmering issues are prevalent. if you think H4 is going to look that blurry on the TV (I see more jpeg artifacts then anything here) your going to be surprised. KZ's detail looks like mush itself in those screens.

Halo can do scale and detail too. I believe this multiplayer?

mems_1224

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] nah, Halo being better is not debatable. more modes, more options, better community, etc...killzone doesnt even have the best graphics anymore. Halo 4 looks cleaner and a lot more colorful than the dull brown, black and gray in Killzone. truth hurts bruh, i know but just accept that killzone will never be in the same league as any halo gamemems_1224

u take others opinions FAR too serious...

Y so butthurt brah?

(mis)informing that someone prefering Killzone over Halo is wrong?

That sounds butthurt over someones opinion to me...

but w/e makes u sleep at night brah

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

If you want to troll me you'll have to do better than that.

ShadowMoses900

Oh yes you know it. I am so angry! I can't believe people prefer Halo over Killzone, how dare they have a different opinion than I have! This really get's under my skin....

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

u take others opinions FAR too serious...

Y so butthurt brah?

Vatusus

(mis)informing that someone prefering Killzone over Halo is wrong?

That sounds butthurt over someones opinion to me...

but w/e makes u sleep at night brah

KZ3 has nice poly-counts and some nice effects but it's a quite boring shooter.

Honestly, the best part of the game was flying with the spaceship.

They should turn the series into a space shooter, imo.

Would be more interesting than the generic FPS gameplay it has.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

Plagueless

FACT: Halo has bettter sales, bigger and more community support, better scores, more modes, user-created content, deeper lore, and is objectively better than Killzone in almost every way other than graphics. The reviews, sales, size of the community and extreme hype are proof.

Graphics are debatable. On a technical level, KZ wins, I can accept that. On an artistic level, however, it just depends on what you like more.

It is not subjective as to what game is better quality when the vast majority agree on 1. It just means there is a small minority that disagrees. In the real world, majority rules. Elections are decided by majority, Consumer products are decided by what the majority wants, and entertainment is decided by the majority. To say that Killzone>Halo is not wrong, but to deny that the majority disagrees with you is.

so, let me get this straight... better scores = factually better?

ok, I can play this game too

so you're saying that MGS4, SMG2 and GTAIV are factually the best games this gen?

He's right, graphics are the only factual aspect in a game. Everything else is subjective. Dont try to sell Halo as the better game because it had better scores. Thats just fanboy talking

To the people saying Killzone 3 has better graphics than Halo 4...

Killzone 3

Halo 4

Icing on the cake: That cutscene is pre-rendered on PS3. The one from Halo 4 is realtime.

Keep backpedaling...

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] no butthurt bro, just informing mems_1224

(mis)informing that someone prefering Killzone over Halo is wrong?

That sounds butthurt over someones opinion to me...

but w/e makes u sleep at night brah

ok brah

There's lots of bad pics in this thread.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

Plagueless

FACT: Halo has bettter sales, bigger and more community support, better scores, more modes, user-created content, deeper lore, and is objectively better than Killzone in almost every way other than graphics. The reviews, sales, size of the community and extreme hype are proof.

Graphics are debatable. On a technical level, KZ wins, I can accept that. On an artistic level, however, it just depends on what you like more.

It is not subjective as to what game is better quality when the vast majority agree on 1. It just means there is a small minority that disagrees. In the real world, majority rules. Elections are decided by majority, Consumer products are decided by what the majority wants, and entertainment is decided by the majority. To say that Killzone>Halo is not wrong, but to deny that the majority disagrees with you is.

I love how someone can express an entirely subjective opinion in SW and yet still be called a biased fanboy. Also you calling me a biased fanboy is a bit ironic on your end don't you think?

Your "facts" does not make Halo the better game. Despite all those things you mentioned I still had way more fun with Killzone this gen than Halo, and most of your arguments are fallacies. More sales and community makes Halo better? Ok so COD is better than Halo as well right? I mean this is your logic after all so you have to agree with it. The Wii must also be your favorite system because it sold so well and has the biggest community, you should be a sheep and not a lem. Do you see the flaw in your logic?

But I'm not going to take the time to further destroy your argument. It is simply a waste of energy on my part. The only thing you did was support my orgional point that 360 fanboys are getting emotional over nothing. I do not care what your opinion is, I find Killzone to be the better game series this gen and if that upsets you then put a helmet on.

I think this guy sums up my thoughts on this "debate" quite nicely:Killzone Haters Need To Shut Up - YouTube

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

Vatusus

FACT: Halo has bettter sales, bigger and more community support, better scores, more modes, user-created content, deeper lore, and is objectively better than Killzone in almost every way other than graphics. The reviews, sales, size of the community and extreme hype are proof.

Graphics are debatable. On a technical level, KZ wins, I can accept that. On an artistic level, however, it just depends on what you like more.

It is not subjective as to what game is better quality when the vast majority agree on 1. It just means there is a small minority that disagrees. In the real world, majority rules. Elections are decided by majority, Consumer products are decided by what the majority wants, and entertainment is decided by the majority. To say that Killzone>Halo is not wrong, but to deny that the majority disagrees with you is.

so, let me get this straight... better scores = factually better?

ok, I can play this game too

so you're saying that MGS4, SMG2 and GTAIV are factually the best games this gen?

He's right, graphics are the only factual aspect in a game. Everything else is subjective. Dont try to sell Halo as the better game because it had better scores. Thats just fanboy talking

Oh yes you know it. I am so angry! I can't believe people prefer Halo over Killzone, how dare they have a different opinion than I have! This really get's under my skin....ShadowMoses900

Even Resistance 3 looks better.

Mozelleple112

:lol:Really man?

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

Vatusus

FACT: Halo has bettter sales, bigger and more community support, better scores, more modes, user-created content, deeper lore, and is objectively better than Killzone in almost every way other than graphics. The reviews, sales, size of the community and extreme hype are proof.

Graphics are debatable. On a technical level, KZ wins, I can accept that. On an artistic level, however, it just depends on what you like more.

It is not subjective as to what game is better quality when the vast majority agree on 1. It just means there is a small minority that disagrees. In the real world, majority rules. Elections are decided by majority, Consumer products are decided by what the majority wants, and entertainment is decided by the majority. To say that Killzone>Halo is not wrong, but to deny that the majority disagrees with you is.

so, let me get this straight... better scores = factually better?

ok, I can play this game too

so you're saying that MGS4, SMG2 and GTAIV are factually the best games this gen?

He's right, graphics are the only factual aspect in a game. Everything else is subjective. Dont try to sell Halo as the better game because it had better scores. Thats just fanboy talking

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

ShadowMoses900

FACT: Halo has bettter sales, bigger and more community support, better scores, more modes, user-created content, deeper lore, and is objectively better than Killzone in almost every way other than graphics. The reviews, sales, size of the community and extreme hype are proof.

Graphics are debatable. On a technical level, KZ wins, I can accept that. On an artistic level, however, it just depends on what you like more.

It is not subjective as to what game is better quality when the vast majority agree on 1. It just means there is a small minority that disagrees. In the real world, majority rules. Elections are decided by majority, Consumer products are decided by what the majority wants, and entertainment is decided by the majority. To say that Killzone>Halo is not wrong, but to deny that the majority disagrees with you is.

I love how someone can express an entirely subjective opinion in SW and yet still be called a biased fanboy. Also you calling me a biased fanboy is a bit ironic on your end don't you think?

Your "facts" does not make Halo the better game. Despite all those things you mentioned I still had way more fun with Killzone this gen than Halo, and most of your arguments are fallacies. More sales and community makes Halo better? Ok so COD is better than Halo as well right? I mean this is your logic after all so you have to agree with it. The Wii must also be your favorite system because it sold so well and has the biggest community, you should be a sheep and not a lem. Do you see the flaw in your logic?

But I'm not going to take the time to further destroy your argument. It is simply a waste of energy on my part. The only thing you did was support my orgional point that 360 fanboys are getting emotional over nothing. I do not care what your opinion is, I find Killzone to be the better game series this gen and if that upsets you then put a helmet on.

I think this guy sums up my thoughts on this "debate" quite nicely:Killzone Haters Need To Shut Up - YouTube

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

Vatusus

FACT: Halo has bettter sales, bigger and more community support, better scores, more modes, user-created content, deeper lore, and is objectively better than Killzone in almost every way other than graphics. The reviews, sales, size of the community and extreme hype are proof.

Graphics are debatable. On a technical level, KZ wins, I can accept that. On an artistic level, however, it just depends on what you like more.

It is not subjective as to what game is better quality when the vast majority agree on 1. It just means there is a small minority that disagrees. In the real world, majority rules. Elections are decided by majority, Consumer products are decided by what the majority wants, and entertainment is decided by the majority. To say that Killzone>Halo is not wrong, but to deny that the majority disagrees with you is.

so, let me get this straight... better scores = factually better?

ok, I can play this game too

so you're saying that MGS4, SMG2 and GTAIV are factually the best games this gen?

He's right, graphics are the only factual aspect in a game. Everything else is subjective. Dont try to sell Halo as the better game because it had better scores. Thats just fanboy talking

He is using so many fallacies that it's clear this guy has no understanding of how to form a decent argument. The scary thing though is his line of logic that majority=right. That line of thinking is not only stupid, but extreamely dangerous.

It's that kind of thinking that stops progress, things like slavery and other oppressive regimes were supported by the majority, his logic that would be ok. It also takes away a persons invidualism with that mentality, it's the same "if the majority jumped off a bridge would you do it too?" kind of thing.

And using his logic he would do it. But that's not surprising, they are called Lemmings for a reason.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"] I love how you always try to act like you're not a fanboy but your bias just shines right though.

FACT: Halo has bettter sales, bigger and more community support, better scores, more modes, user-created content, deeper lore, and is objectively better than Killzone in almost every way other than graphics. The reviews, sales, size of the community and extreme hype are proof.

Graphics are debatable. On a technical level, KZ wins, I can accept that. On an artistic level, however, it just depends on what you like more.

It is not subjective as to what game is better quality when the vast majority agree on 1. It just means there is a small minority that disagrees. In the real world, majority rules. Elections are decided by majority, Consumer products are decided by what the majority wants, and entertainment is decided by the majority. To say that Killzone>Halo is not wrong, but to deny that the majority disagrees with you is.

mems_1224

I love how someone can express an entirely subjective opinion in SW and yet still be called a biased fanboy. Also you calling me a biased fanboy is a bit ironic on your end don't you think?

Your "facts" does not make Halo the better game. Despite all those things you mentioned I still had way more fun with Killzone this gen than Halo, and most of your arguments are fallacies. More sales and community makes Halo better? Ok so COD is better than Halo as well right? I mean this is your logic after all so you have to agree with it. The Wii must also be your favorite system because it sold so well and has the biggest community, you should be a sheep and not a lem. Do you see the flaw in your logic?

But I'm not going to take the time to further destroy your argument. It is simply a waste of energy on my part. The only thing you did was support my orgional point that 360 fanboys are getting emotional over nothing. I do not care what your opinion is, I find Killzone to be the better game series this gen and if that upsets you then put a helmet on.

I think this guy sums up my thoughts on this "debate" quite nicely:Killzone Haters Need To Shut Up - YouTube

You didn't even read it, nor would I expect you to. It's too long didn't read kind of thing.

But I'll just let this sum up my responses: Killzone Haters Need To Shut Up - YouTube

Not angry at all friend. It's an overall mellow day, the weather could be better though.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

From a graphics standpoint Killzone is better, this is not debatable.

For what game is better quality, that is a matter of opinion and is entirely subjective.

I don't know why 360 fanboys are getting so emotional about this.

ShadowMoses900

FACT: Halo has bettter sales, bigger and more community support, better scores, more modes, user-created content, deeper lore, and is objectively better than Killzone in almost every way other than graphics. The reviews, sales, size of the community and extreme hype are proof.

Graphics are debatable. On a technical level, KZ wins, I can accept that. On an artistic level, however, it just depends on what you like more.

It is not subjective as to what game is better quality when the vast majority agree on 1. It just means there is a small minority that disagrees. In the real world, majority rules. Elections are decided by majority, Consumer products are decided by what the majority wants, and entertainment is decided by the majority. To say that Killzone>Halo is not wrong, but to deny that the majority disagrees with you is.

I love how someone can express an entirely subjective opinion in SW and yet still be called a biased fanboy. Also you calling me a biased fanboy is a bit ironic on your end don't you think?

Your "facts" does not make Halo the better game. Despite all those things you mentioned I still had way more fun with Killzone this gen than Halo, and most of your arguments are fallacies. More sales and community makes Halo better? Ok so COD is better than Halo as well right? I mean this is your logic after all so you have to agree with it. The Wii must also be your favorite system because it sold so well and has the biggest community, you should be a sheep and not a lem. Do you see the flaw in your logic?

But I'm not going to take the time to further destroy your argument. It is simply a waste of energy on my part. The only thing you did was support my orgional point that 360 fanboys are getting emotional over nothing. I do not care what your opinion is, I find Killzone to be the better game series this gen and if that upsets you then put a helmet on.

I think this guy sums up my thoughts on this "debate" quite nicely:Killzone Haters Need To Shut Up - YouTube

:lol::lol::lol:

And with respons to your Cod argument, why do you have to bring Cod in to rescue Killzone?

Cod does not have a more dedicated community than Halo. Cod fans play the new game and forget the old ones. There are almost 0 players on Cod 4 or WaW, despite 4 being the best Cod ever and WaW being the last good WWII shooter.

Now look at Halo, Reach still cracking 100,000 2+ years after release, Halo 3 still in the top 20 games on XBL 5+ years after release, and Halo 2, when it was shut down in 2010 STILL had people playing it, 6 years after release!!

Also it would be good to add that the biggest webseries ever, Red vs Blue, is based on what game? Oh right. Halo.

You also totally missed the better lore, better score, more modes, user generated content, etc. What's your crappy argument to that? :lol:

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"] I love how you always try to act like you're not a fanboy but your bias just shines right though.

FACT: Halo has bettter sales, bigger and more community support, better scores, more modes, user-created content, deeper lore, and is objectively better than Killzone in almost every way other than graphics. The reviews, sales, size of the community and extreme hype are proof.

Graphics are debatable. On a technical level, KZ wins, I can accept that. On an artistic level, however, it just depends on what you like more.

It is not subjective as to what game is better quality when the vast majority agree on 1. It just means there is a small minority that disagrees. In the real world, majority rules. Elections are decided by majority, Consumer products are decided by what the majority wants, and entertainment is decided by the majority. To say that Killzone>Halo is not wrong, but to deny that the majority disagrees with you is.

ShadowMoses900

so, let me get this straight... better scores = factually better?

ok, I can play this game too

so you're saying that MGS4, SMG2 and GTAIV are factually the best games this gen?

He's right, graphics are the only factual aspect in a game. Everything else is subjective. Dont try to sell Halo as the better game because it had better scores. Thats just fanboy talking

He is using so many fallacies that it's clear this guy has no understanding of how to form a decent argument. The scary thing though is his line of logic that majority=right. That line of thinking is not only stupid, but extreamely dangerous.

It's that kind of thinking that stops progress, things like slavery and other oppressive regimes were supported by the majority, his logic that would be ok. It also takes away a persons invidualism with that mentality, it's the same "if the majority jumped off a bridge would you do it too?" kind of thing.

And using his logic he would do it. But that's not surprising, they are called Lemmings for a reason.

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I love how someone can express an entirely subjective opinion in SW and yet still be called a biased fanboy. Also you calling me a biased fanboy is a bit ironic on your end don't you think?

Your "facts" does not make Halo the better game. Despite all those things you mentioned I still had way more fun with Killzone this gen than Halo, and most of your arguments are fallacies. More sales and community makes Halo better? Ok so COD is better than Halo as well right? I mean this is your logic after all so you have to agree with it. The Wii must also be your favorite system because it sold so well and has the biggest community, you should be a sheep and not a lem. Do you see the flaw in your logic?

But I'm not going to take the time to further destroy your argument. It is simply a waste of energy on my part. The only thing you did was support my orgional point that 360 fanboys are getting emotional over nothing. I do not care what your opinion is, I find Killzone to be the better game series this gen and if that upsets you then put a helmet on.

I think this guy sums up my thoughts on this "debate" quite nicely:Killzone Haters Need To Shut Up - YouTube

ShadowMoses900

You didn't even read it, nor would I expect you to. It's too long didn't read kind of thing.

But I'll just let this sum up my responses: Killzone Haters Need To Shut Up - YouTube

Not angry at all friend. It's an overall mellow day, the weather could be better though.

Halo could be 8bit and it'd still be better than any killzone.

drop the mike.