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#151 i_am_interested
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Yeah people believe it or not, Stalker is more realistic, real life does not look like what you see in movies and Killzone 2 and 3.ocstew
who cares, toy story and shrek dont look realistic at all but they look a billion times better than Stalker

this "realistic" artstyle being held as the standard is a joke

i forgot that what was going on in Helghan was "real life"

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#152 Sw33tChilLi
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I would give credit if it WAS due. Killzone tries way to hard with it's visuals. I mean, I know it's an eradiated wasteland, but do you really need to apply a brown filter to the entire screen? It shows a lack of confidence in their art direction if you ask me. Especially compared to Stalker, which is also set in a nuclear wasteland. And I've said MANY times that Killzone has the best animations I've ever seen in a game.

Just look.

The game should be called Killzone 3: Colors. Each level has a different color filter!

As opposed to Stalker:

Killzone looks forced, and synthetic, while Stalkers looks believable.

WhenCicadasCry

Believable? So thats what makes a game look good now? Ok..

And a lack of confidence with the artists? So making a game based in New York is showing a greater confidence in their art right instead of making up a completely new world? Psshhh

Oh, and this screen above doesn't look very brown to me...

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#153 themyth01
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Crysis is graphically superior and actually has a varied color palette. KZ3 looks good, but it still look exactly like KZ2.
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#154 Bazooka_4ME
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

I would give credit if it WAS due. Killzone tries way to hard with it's visuals. I mean, I know it's an eradiated wasteland, but do you really need to apply a brown filter to the entire screen? It shows a lack of confidence in their art direction if you ask me. Especially compared to Stalker, which is also set in a nuclear wasteland. And I've said MANY times that Killzone has the best animations I've ever seen in a game.

Just look.

The game should be called Killzone 3: Colors. Each level has a different color filter!

As opposed to Stalker:

Killzone looks forced, and synthetic, while Stalkers looks believable.

Samvigote

Is it me of the first screens from Killzone look better than those stalker screen you posted.? Maybe you are getting bad ones or low spec ones those are not impressive at all.

Second Stalker and any PC game should surpass Killzone 3 without problem,the specs are higher as simple as that there is no shame in that,is not like stalker is running on 360 looking as good as on PC,i don't know but the reasons you use to downgrade Killzone 3 are silly,second and the biggest part Killzone is not based on earth,so every building,or colors should look like everthing on earth does.

From where i see it you are just looking for silly excuses to downplay something that look incredible already,the level of graphics show in Killzone 3 multiplaying beat almost all games on 360 single player which say allot,because games tend to look better in single player than in multiplayer,but Killzone manage to keep those great graphics there when many other games loss them.

Also what i have see so far is 1 stage,so how can i judge a palete of colors of a complete game by just 1 map,what i have see in the artic stage look incredible,with snow,waves hitting ice burgs things falling down destrutible environment it is just great,now i am not downplaying Crysis 2 in any way,but i think like i say that Crysis 2 will look better but on PC on 360 or PS3 i think Killzone 3 will beat it quite easy.

Killzone 3 is set on a demolished planet and deserted leaving only the Helghasts themselves inhabiting it. Seriesly though, people want to assume warzone such as in Iraq and Afghanistan to look like this..

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#155 i_am_interested
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EVERYONE, the people on here who ridicule killzone for not looking REALISTIC are a joke and are nothing but killzone hating bridge dwellers who look like shrek

http://sianlouise.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/walle-may8-4.jpg

i guess games like crysis and stalker look better than Wall-E because "real life" DOESNT LOOK LIKE THIS ^^^^^^^

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#156 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="ocstew"]Yeah people believe it or not, Stalker is more realistic, real life does not look like what you see in movies and Killzone 2 and 3.i_am_interested

who cares, toy story and shrek dont look realistic at all but they look a billion times better than Stalker

this "realistic" artstyle being held as the standard is a joke

i forgot that what was going on in Helghan was "real life"

That'd be fine except many proponents of KZ keep saying the gunplay and animations in KZ is the most realistic. So what are they basing those assumptions on?

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#157 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

I would give credit if it WAS due. Killzone tries way to hard with it's visuals. I mean, I know it's an eradiated wasteland, but do you really need to apply a brown filter to the entire screen? It shows a lack of confidence in their art direction if you ask me. Especially compared to Stalker, which is also set in a nuclear wasteland. And I've said MANY times that Killzone has the best animations I've ever seen in a game.

Just look.

The game should be called Killzone 3: Colors. Each level has a different color filter!

As opposed to Stalker:

Killzone looks forced, and synthetic, while Stalkers looks believable.

Sw33tChilLi

Believable? So thats what makes a game look good now? Ok..

And a lack of confidence with the artists? So making a game based in New York is showing a greater confidence in their art right instead of making up a completely new world? Psshhh

Oh, and this screen above doesn't look very brown to me...

It looks dull. And fyi, making up a new world is the easy way out as you don't actually have to model the game on real-life structures, rather make up some really simplistic and easy to render structures that look like they're made out of cubes.

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#158 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"]Yeah people believe it or not, Stalker is more realistic, real life does not look like what you see in movies and Killzone 2 and 3.jun_aka_pekto

who cares, toy story and shrek dont look realistic at all but they look a billion times better than Stalker

this "realistic" artstyle being held as the standard is a joke

i forgot that what was going on in Helghan was "real life"

That'd be fine except many proponents of KZ keep saying the gunplay and animations in KZ is the most realistic. So what are they basing those assumptions on?

you have one guy up above complaining about killzones COLORS and another guy who sounds like hes complaining about grain filters, take your pick

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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] who cares, toy story and shrek dont look realistic at all but they look a billion times better than Stalker

this "realistic" artstyle being held as the standard is a joke

i forgot that what was going on in Helghan was "real life"

i_am_interested

That'd be fine except many proponents of KZ keep saying the gunplay and animations in KZ is the most realistic. So what are they basing those assumptions on?

you have one guy up above complaining about killzones COLORS and another guy who sounds like hes complaining about grain filters, take your pick

Both.. how are they mutually exclusive? the grain or noise appears to be a side-effect of their MLAA implementation because I don't remember seeing it in KZ2.

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#160 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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EVERYONE, the people on here who ridicule killzone for not looking REALISTIC are a joke and are nothing but killzone hating bridge dwellers who look like shrek

http://www.mannythemovieguy.com/images/wall-e.jpg

i guess games like crysis and stalker look better than Wall-E because "real life" DOESNT LOOK LIKE THIS ^^^^^^^

i_am_interested

It doesn't buddy. Killzone is not realistic in their colours. And neither is that Walle picture. Most movies whether they be Saving Private Ryan or Shrek are STYLIZED. Killzone is STYLIZED. That means they are not aiming for a realistic looks, rather one that emulates the mood at the time. Get it now?

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#161 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

That'd be fine except many proponents of KZ keep saying the gunplay and animations in KZ is the most realistic. So what are they basing those assumptions on?

themyth01

you have one guy up above complaining about killzones COLORS and another guy who sounds like hes complaining about grain filters, take your pick

Both.. how are they mutually exclusive? the grain or noise appears to be a side-effect of their MLAA implementation because I don't remember seeing it in KZ2.

Sigh. It's not an artifact. They put a crapload of grain, along with dull colours, along with motion blur because it's meant to look "Cool" and motion picture like.
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#162 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="Samvigote"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

I would give credit if it WAS due. Killzone tries way to hard with it's visuals. I mean, I know it's an eradiated wasteland, but do you really need to apply a brown filter to the entire screen? It shows a lack of confidence in their art direction if you ask me. Especially compared to Stalker, which is also set in a nuclear wasteland. And I've said MANY times that Killzone has the best animations I've ever seen in a game.

Just look.

The game should be called Killzone 3: Colors. Each level has a different color filter!

As opposed to Stalker:

Killzone looks forced, and synthetic, while Stalkers looks believable.

Bazooka_4ME

Is it me of the first screens from Killzone look better than those stalker screen you posted.? Maybe you are getting bad ones or low spec ones those are not impressive at all.

Second Stalker and any PC game should surpass Killzone 3 without problem,the specs are higher as simple as that there is no shame in that,is not like stalker is running on 360 looking as good as on PC,i don't know but the reasons you use to downgrade Killzone 3 are silly,second and the biggest part Killzone is not based on earth,so every building,or colors should look like everthing on earth does.

From where i see it you are just looking for silly excuses to downplay something that look incredible already,the level of graphics show in Killzone 3 multiplaying beat almost all games on 360 single player which say allot,because games tend to look better in single player than in multiplayer,but Killzone manage to keep those great graphics there when many other games loss them.

Also what i have see so far is 1 stage,so how can i judge a palete of colors of a complete game by just 1 map,what i have see in the artic stage look incredible,with snow,waves hitting ice burgs things falling down destrutible environment it is just great,now i am not downplaying Crysis 2 in any way,but i think like i say that Crysis 2 will look better but on PC on 360 or PS3 i think Killzone 3 will beat it quite easy.

Killzone 3 is set on a demolished planet and deserted leaving only the Helghasts themselves inhabiting it. Seriesly though, people want to assume warzone such as in Iraq and Afghanistan to look like this..

I'm not saying it has to be colorful, but when a simple grainy brown filter is applied to make it look "gritty", it's pretty embaressing. Maybe it's just me. :cry: Stalkers way of portraying a deserted ghost town after a nuclear disaster is so subtle, while Killzones is so in your face, it looks horrrible. Subtlety >> Forced.

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#163 themyth01
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Anyways objectively, it looks like this:

Crysis 2 uses Global Illumation a technique where lighting information of objects is not calculated independently of the environment but rather with taking the environment into account, this is very taxing on the hardware and very few games make use of it (I think Stalker is the other one).KZ3 does NOT use GI, it uses baked textures. GI creates a better lighting system because light bounces multiple time with objects in the environment while some light energy is absorbed by the objects.

KZ3 uses MLAA, Crysis 2 uses 2xMSAA.

KZ3 is rendered on 720p and so is Crysis 2, both run at 30fps.

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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

[QUOTE="Samvigote"]

Is it me of the first screens from Killzone look better than those stalker screen you posted.? Maybe you are getting bad ones or low spec ones those are not impressive at all.

Second Stalker and any PC game should surpass Killzone 3 without problem,the specs are higher as simple as that there is no shame in that,is not like stalker is running on 360 looking as good as on PC,i don't know but the reasons you use to downgrade Killzone 3 are silly,second and the biggest part Killzone is not based on earth,so every building,or colors should look like everthing on earth does.

From where i see it you are just looking for silly excuses to downplay something that look incredible already,the level of graphics show in Killzone 3 multiplaying beat almost all games on 360 single player which say allot,because games tend to look better in single player than in multiplayer,but Killzone manage to keep those great graphics there when many other games loss them.

Also what i have see so far is 1 stage,so how can i judge a palete of colors of a complete game by just 1 map,what i have see in the artic stage look incredible,with snow,waves hitting ice burgs things falling down destrutible environment it is just great,now i am not downplaying Crysis 2 in any way,but i think like i say that Crysis 2 will look better but on PC on 360 or PS3 i think Killzone 3 will beat it quite easy.

WhenCicadasCry

Killzone 3 is set on a demolished planet and deserted leaving only the Helghasts themselves inhabiting it. Seriesly though, people want to assume warzone such as in Iraq and Afghanistan to look like this..

I'm not saying it has to be colorful, but when a simple grainy brown filter is applied to make it look "gritty", it's pretty embaressing. Maybe it's just me. :cry:

It's everyone who cringes at the thought of Killzone 2 being labeled GFX KING OMG OMGO MGG. That kind sirs belong to UC2.

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#166 Bazooka_4ME
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I'm not saying it has to be colorful, but when a simple grainy brown filter is applied to make it look "gritty", it's pretty embaressing. Maybe it's just me. :cry:

WhenCicadasCry

Don't worry it's just you...:roll:

So far, judging from that video:

Textures = Crysis 2

Framerate = Killzone 3

Ragdoll animation = Killzone 3

Sound = Killzone 3

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#168 Bazooka_4ME
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theres nothing to get

realistic art is no kind of end all standard and people who worship it as know nothing

http://i55.tinypic.com/27zxaqg.gif

HELGHAN ISNT REAL, this above gif ISNT REAL

people who ridicule killzone for not looking realistic know nothing

DO YOU GET IT?

i_am_interested

wow that gif actually has more color in it rather than just brown....

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#170 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"] It doesn't buddy. Killzone is not realistic in their colours. And neither is that Walle picture. Most movies whether they be Saving Private Ryan or Shrek are STYLIZED. Killzone is STYLIZED. That means they are not aiming for a realistic looks, rather one that emulates the mood at the time. Get it now?

ocstew

theres nothing to get

realistic art is no kind of end all standard and people who worship it as know nothing

http://i55.tinypic.com/27zxaqg.gif

HELGHAN ISNT REAL, this above gif ISNT REAL

people who ridicule killzone for not looking realistic know nothing

DO YOU GET IT?

Wait so you're saying that if we made a game that was set on a blue planet with blue everything it would be "realistic" because in imaginary world it's realistic. HAHAHAHA. We aren't worshipping anything, rather we're pointing out that KZ is not realistic, at least in this world :)

EXCEPT EVERYONE ALREADYS KNOWS KILLZONES WORLD AND ATMOSPHERE ISNT REALISTIC

and people who feel the need to tell people that killzone isnt realistic looking arent doing anyone any favors, theyre pretty much just ridiculing it

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#172 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="ocstew"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

theres nothing to get

realistic art is no kind of end all standard and people who worship it as know nothing

http://i55.tinypic.com/27zxaqg.gif

HELGHAN ISNT REAL, this above gif ISNT REAL

people who ridicule killzone for not looking realistic know nothing

DO YOU GET IT?

i_am_interested

Wait so you're saying that if we made a game that was set on a blue planet with blue everything it would be "realistic" because in imaginary world it's realistic. HAHAHAHA. We aren't worshipping anything, rather we're pointing out that KZ is not realistic, at least in this world :)

EXCEPT EVERYONE ALREADYS KNOWS KILLZONES WORLD AND ATMOSPHERE ISNT REALISTIC

and people who feel the need to tell people that killzone isnt realistic looking arent doing anyone any favors, theyre pretty much just ridiculing it

Neither is Halos, it doesn't mean the entire screen is brown.

How anyone can defend that is beyond me.

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#173 FIipMode
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People arguing about subjective views on art style?

Hell yeah sign me up, I'm getting a front seat on this.

http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af45/Flipmode10/scarjo_popcorn.gif?t=1287889617

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#174 i_am_interested
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doesnt matter if halos screen isnt brown, i wasnt aware that guerilla games was actually located in redmond and secretly named bungie

keep pretending like youre not a killzone troll, ive seen your killzone "confused with its identity" comments

how can i defend it? easily, i know nothing about helghans sun or the amount of POLLUTION there

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#175 WhenCicadasCry
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doesnt matter if halos screen isnt brown, i wasnt aware that guerilla games was actually located in redmond and secretly named bungie keep pretending like youre not a troll, ive seen your killzone "confused with its identity comments"i_am_interested

I hate Killzone. :lol: Stalker deserves the praise, but Killzone recieves it. :(

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Killzone 3 is set on a demolished planet and deserted leaving only the Helghasts themselves inhabiting it. Seriesly though, people want to assume warzone such as in Iraq and Afghanistan to look like this..

Bazooka_4ME

I've been to Iraq and other similar locations. Even in the middle of all the rubble in urban areas, there's clarity of detail and presence of colors. Even a monochromatic planet like Mars isn't always blurry and devoid of color.

Honestly, I don't mind the sometimes monochromatic look of KZ3. There were worse offenders in the past like Quake 2 and the original Ghost Recon. KZ3 looks fine in that respect. But, about that gritty/filtered/blurry look the developers gave to the KZ series..... That one I find a bit more perplexing. It wouldn't be a deal-breaker to me. But, it'd be one of those those things that'll make me ask what the developers were thinking....or rather what flaws/limitations where they trying to cover up?

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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]doesnt matter if halos screen isnt brown, i wasnt aware that guerilla games was actually located in redmond and secretly named bungie keep pretending like youre not a troll, ive seen your killzone "confused with its identity comments"WhenCicadasCry

I hate Killzone. :lol: Stalker deserves the praise, but Killzone recieves it. :(

its too bad trolling other games doesnt give that game praise

it just makes you look like a sad troll, seriously how pathetic is hating other games

oh no, killzones doing things that other games arent, lets give everyone at guerrilla labotomies and make them play "realistic" looking games everyday

lets make them start by making it take place on earth and not some other random solar system

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#178 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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People arguing about subjective views on art style?

Hell yeah sign me up, I'm getting a front seat on this.

http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af45/Flipmode10/scarjo_popcorn.gif?t=1287889617

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Posting gifs like that is seriously lame, i just needed to point that out

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#179 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]doesnt matter if halos screen isnt brown, i wasnt aware that guerilla games was actually located in redmond and secretly named bungie keep pretending like youre not a troll, ive seen your killzone "confused with its identity comments"i_am_interested

I hate Killzone. :lol: Stalker deserves the praise, but Killzone recieves it. :(

its too bad trolling other games doesnt give that game praise

it just makes you look like a sad troll, seriously how pathetic is hating other games

oh no, killzones doing things that other games arent, lets give everyone at guerrilla labotomies and make them play "realistic" looking games everyday

lets make them start by making it take place on earth and not some other random solar system

Lol. It's a run of the mill shooter no. 46. I know cows have to cling on to it, because they've got nothing that compares to Halo, but you'll soon realize how bad and uninspired Killzone really is.

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#180 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

I hate Killzone. :lol: Stalker deserves the praise, but Killzone recieves it. :(

WhenCicadasCry

its too bad trolling other games doesnt give that game praise

it just makes you look like a sad troll, seriously how pathetic is hating other games

oh no, killzones doing things that other games arent, lets give everyone at guerrilla labotomies and make them play "realistic" looking games everyday

lets make them start by making it take place on earth and not some other random solar system

Lol. It's a run of the mill shooter no. 46. I know cows have to cling on to it, because they've got nothing that compares to Halo, but you'll soon realize how bad and uninspired Killzone really is.

wow, it must be breaking news that every shooter out there is doing what every other shooter out there is also doing

im sure this stalker game is probably run of the mill shooter no. 45

keep hating on killzone, youre doing a great job getting stalker the praise you think it deserves by hating on killzone

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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

People arguing about subjective views on art style?

Hell yeah sign me up, I'm getting a front seat on this.

ocstew

Posting gifs like that is seriously lame, i just needed to point that out

Lamer than arguing about artstyles? I think not.:D

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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] its too bad trolling other games doesnt give that game praise

it just makes you look like a sad troll, seriously how pathetic is hating other games

oh no, killzones doing things that other games arent, lets give everyone at guerrilla labotomies and make them play "realistic" looking games everyday

lets make them start by making it take place on earth and not some other random solar system

i_am_interested

Lol. It's a run of the mill shooter no. 46. I know cows have to cling on to it, because they've got nothing that compares to Halo, but you'll soon realize how bad and uninspired Killzone really is.

wow, it must be breaking news that every shooter out there is doing what every other shooter out there is also doing im sure this stalker game is probably run of the mill shooter no. 45

You've never played STALKER before have you?
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#183 MethodManFTW
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] its too bad trolling other games doesnt give that game praise

it just makes you look like a sad troll, seriously how pathetic is hating other games

oh no, killzones doing things that other games arent, lets give everyone at guerrilla labotomies and make them play "realistic" looking games everyday

lets make them start by making it take place on earth and not some other random solar system

i_am_interested

Lol. It's a run of the mill shooter no. 46. I know cows have to cling on to it, because they've got nothing that compares to Halo, but you'll soon realize how bad and uninspired Killzone really is.

wow, it must be breaking news that every shooter out there is doing what every other shooter out there is also doing im sure this stalker game is probably run of the mill shooter no. 45

stalker is an open world FPS RPG... i'd say it's a good fallout. but why cant you just just accept you like Killzone, that other dude doesn't. I personally love Killzone, but there isn't one game in existence everyone likes.
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#184 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] its too bad trolling other games doesnt give that game praise

it just makes you look like a sad troll, seriously how pathetic is hating other games

oh no, killzones doing things that other games arent, lets give everyone at guerrilla labotomies and make them play "realistic" looking games everyday

lets make them start by making it take place on earth and not some other random solar system

i_am_interested

Lol. It's a run of the mill shooter no. 46. I know cows have to cling on to it, because they've got nothing that compares to Halo, but you'll soon realize how bad and uninspired Killzone really is.

wow, it must be breaking news that every shooter out there is doing what every other shooter out there is also doing im sure this stalker game is probably run of the mill shooter no. 45

Then you've obviously never played it. Atleast I play games before I judge them. I'm talking about Killzone 2, not 3, although I doubt 3 will stray from the same tried and tested formula.

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#185 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Lol. It's a run of the mill shooter no. 46. I know cows have to cling on to it, because they've got nothing that compares to Halo, but you'll soon realize how bad and uninspired Killzone really is.

ferret-gamer

wow, it must be breaking news that every shooter out there is doing what every other shooter out there is also doing im sure this stalker game is probably run of the mill shooter no. 45

You've never played STALKER before have you?

nope, but i highly doubt its the revolutionary shooter unlike any other thats come before it that people on here want to criticize killzone for not being

if it is id sure love to know what makes it so

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#186 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Lol. It's a run of the mill shooter no. 46. I know cows have to cling on to it, because they've got nothing that compares to Halo, but you'll soon realize how bad and uninspired Killzone really is.

MethodManFTW

wow, it must be breaking news that every shooter out there is doing what every other shooter out there is also doing im sure this stalker game is probably run of the mill shooter no. 45

stalker is an open world FPS RPG... i'd say it's a good fallout. but why cant you just just accept you like Killzone, that other dude doesn't. I personally love Killzone, but there isn't one game in existence everyone likes.

what is there for me to accept? that trolling and HATING games is pathetic? ok i accept that

if people dont like games, thats their business, but whats going on in this thread is FLAT OUT TROLLING

i mean seriously, complaining about colors?

the guy even admitted that he hates killzone because apparently stalker doesnt get any praise - whos fault is that? must be guerillas

its so necessary for him to cry about stalker in this thread

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#187 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="i_am_interested"] wow, it must be breaking news that every shooter out there is doing what every other shooter out there is also doing im sure this stalker game is probably run of the mill shooter no. 45i_am_interested

stalker is an open world FPS RPG... i'd say it's a good fallout. but why cant you just just accept you like Killzone, that other dude doesn't. I personally love Killzone, but there isn't one game in existence everyone likes.

what is there for me to accept? that trolling and HATING games is pathetic? ok i accept that

if people dont like games, thats their business, but whats going on in this thread is FLAT OUT TROLLING

i mean seriously, complaining about colors?

the guy even admitted that he hates killzone because apparently stalker doesnt get any praise - whos fault is that? must be guerillas

its so necessary for him to cry about stalker in this thread

You really know how this started? Not lemmings or hermits, but cows who said that Crysis 2 looked craptastic when compared with KZ3.
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#188 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"]stalker is an open world FPS RPG... i'd say it's a good fallout. but why cant you just just accept you like Killzone, that other dude doesn't. I personally love Killzone, but there isn't one game in existence everyone likes.ocstew

what is there for me to accept? that trolling and HATING games is pathetic? ok i accept that

if people dont like games, thats their business, but whats going on in this thread is FLAT OUT TROLLING

i mean seriously, complaining about colors?

the guy even admitted that he hates killzone because apparently stalker doesnt get any praise - whos fault is that? must be guerillas

its so necessary for him to cry about stalker in this thread

You really know how this started? Not lemmings or hermits, but cows who said that Crysis 2 looked craptastic when compared with KZ3.

really? in this thread? quickly searching through all 10 pages didnt bring up anyone referring to crysis 2 as craptastic or even using the word crap other than to talk about the video or specifically the trees in crysis 2 when compared to crysis 1

so feel free to point it out in this thread unless youre making stuff up, especially anyone ridiculing crysis 2 before that killzone 3 troll showed up

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#189 Samvigote
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I'm not saying it has to be colorful, but when a simple grainy brown filter is applied to make it look "gritty", it's pretty embaressing. Maybe it's just me. :cry: Stalkers way of portraying a deserted ghost town after a nuclear disaster is so subtle, while Killzones is so in your face, it looks horrrible. Subtlety >> Forced.

WhenCicadasCry

But he gave you a nice example dude,you can't spec colorful environment on a game like Killzone,which by the way you or any of us haven't play until the end,the game taking place in the another universe alone justify the color palete,is not earth is not pretty forest is a war zone on a alien planet,in fact Killzone 3 from what i have see has capture the filling of war very good.

But like the dude you quote proved environment even here can't be dull and bland with very little color even real ones like Ikar.

You know what i think is just you and there is nothing embaressing about Killzone 3 graphics,the games look better now that anything i have ever seen on consoles,sure it doesn't beat the mighty PC but it doesn't have to,the game look super for a console game.

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#190 deactivated-6079d224de716
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But he gave you a nice example dude,you can't spec colorful environment on a game like Killzone,which by the way you or any of us haven't play until the end,the game taking place in the another universe alone justify the color palete,is not earth is not pretty forest is a war zone on a alien planet,in fact Killzone 3 from what i have see has capture the filling of war very good.

But like the dude you quote proved environment even here can't be dull and bland with very little color even real ones like Ikar.

You know what i think is just you and there is nothing embaressing about Killzone 3 graphics,the games look better now that anything i have ever seen on consoles,sure it doesn't beat the mighty PC but it doesn't have to,the game look super for a console game.

Samvigote

Just ignore him, he's ill with unreasonable KZ hate. The funny thing is that he called Terminator FPS amazing, while it is basically a KZ2 ripoff graphics and atmosphere wise.

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#191 GeneralShowzer
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Doesn't anybody notice this?

Crysis did it's own thing, had it's own special FOV, it's own MP mods, it's own pacing.

KZ2 had that heavy feel to it, and it was kind of slow paced.

Now they both look like MW2. And what's with the floating numbers. . Seriously. And Killstreaks.UGH

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#192 Samvigote
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Neither is Halos, it doesn't mean the entire screen is brown.

How anyone can defend that is beyond me.

WhenCicadasCry

Well maybe if it was based on the Helgan planet it would be,maybe you should go under water half a mile to see how colorful everything around you is,or maybe you should go to the desert and see how colorful everything is,even lizard are sand colored...:)

Give it up dude is you the game is fine and you can't realisticly spec a game which is base on another planet which is a theater of war almost destroyed to look like the amazon rain forest dude.

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#193 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Doesn't anybody notice this?

Crysis did it's own thing, had it's own special FOV, it's own MP mods, it's own pacing.

KZ2 had that heavy feel to it, and it was kind of slow paced.

Now they both look like MW2. And what's with the floating numbers. . Seriously. And Killstreaks.UGH

GeneralShowzer

I was afraid on the part of KZ3 that if will get CoDified but judging from the beta videos it is just a more streamlined KZ2 gameplay wise. Floating numbers are lame though. C2 on the other hand just screams MW2. I hope Crytek still has some time to find their own feel.

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#194 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

Doesn't anybody notice this?

Crysis did it's own thing, had it's own special FOV, it's own MP mods, it's own pacing.

KZ2 had that heavy feel to it, and it was kind of slow paced.

Now they both look like MW2. And what's with the floating numbers. . Seriously. And Killstreaks.UGH

Orchid87

I was afraid on the part of KZ3 that if will get CoDified but judging from the beta videos it is just a more streamlined KZ2 gameplay wise. Floating numbers are lame though. C2 on the other hand just screams MW2. I hope Crytek still has some time to find their own feel.

I don't own KZ2, but I've played it a bit. From what i can tell that beta is too fast paced, numbers floating around, people dying from one shot, kill-streaks, ect. I don't remember KZ2 being like that. This screams COD.
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#195 dommeus
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KZ3 looks and sounds lots better from I have seen so far.

crappy youtube beta compare. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujtf202V87Ukillzowned24

Who cares when it won't play nearly as well...graphics isn't everything cows

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#196 II_Seraphim_II
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Crysis 2 looks so boring imo :?
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#197 PAL360
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Terrible comparation!!!

Going by the vid both look terrible but im glad i have seen better vids. In reality they look equally great.

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#198 PAL360
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I'm going to say Killzone 3 looks a lot better. Crysis reminds me of how MS hyped Perfect Dark Zero, which turned out to be a large turd.

Heirren

A vid of a game remind you of a hype of a game? What does this even mean??

Anyway, PDZ was not very good but wasnt half as bad as Haze for example. And we all know which one got more hype...

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#199 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

Doesn't anybody notice this?

Crysis did it's own thing, had it's own special FOV, it's own MP mods, it's own pacing.

KZ2 had that heavy feel to it, and it was kind of slow paced.

Now they both look like MW2. And what's with the floating numbers. . Seriously. And Killstreaks.UGH

GeneralShowzer

I was afraid on the part of KZ3 that if will get CoDified but judging from the beta videos it is just a more streamlined KZ2 gameplay wise. Floating numbers are lame though. C2 on the other hand just screams MW2. I hope Crytek still has some time to find their own feel.

I don't own KZ2, but I've played it a bit. From what i can tell that beta is too fast paced, numbers floating around, people dying from one shot, kill-streaks, ect. I don't remember KZ2 being like that. This screams COD.

Killzone 2 was always fast paced, ALWAYS, unless you were on the largest map in the game. I don't like the floating numbers, but they are more apealing then the little number on a side of the screen, halo does them very well. It's really easy to kill bots on easy with full support on, it's really to show of the game, the real beta is tommorow. Headshots, yeah. Kill streaks are just a way of saying that you got a streak of kills, no damn thing flying in and killing everything.
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#200 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Samvigote"]

Is it me of the first screens from Killzone look better than those stalker screen you posted.? Maybe you are getting bad ones or low spec ones those are not impressive at all.

Second Stalker and any PC game should surpass Killzone 3 without problem,the specs are higher as simple as that there is no shame in that,is not like stalker is running on 360 looking as good as on PC,i don't know but the reasons you use to downgrade Killzone 3 are silly,second and the biggest part Killzone is not based on earth,so every building,or colors should look like everthing on earth does.

From where i see it you are just looking for silly excuses to downplay something that look incredible already,the level of graphics show in Killzone 3 multiplaying beat almost all games on 360 single player which say allot,because games tend to look better in single player than in multiplayer,but Killzone manage to keep those great graphics there when many other games loss them.

Also what i have see so far is 1 stage,so how can i judge a palete of colors of a complete game by just 1 map,what i have see in the artic stage look incredible,with snow,waves hitting ice burgs things falling down destrutible environment it is just great,now i am not downplaying Crysis 2 in any way,but i think like i say that Crysis 2 will look better but on PC on 360 or PS3 i think Killzone 3 will beat it quite easy.

WhenCicadasCry

Killzone 3 is set on a demolished planet and deserted leaving only the Helghasts themselves inhabiting it. Seriesly though, people want to assume warzone such as in Iraq and Afghanistan to look like this..

I'm not saying it has to be colorful, but when a simple grainy brown filter is applied to make it look "gritty", it's pretty embaressing. Maybe it's just me. :cry: Stalkers way of portraying a deserted ghost town after a nuclear disaster is so subtle, while Killzones is so in your face, it looks horrrible. Subtlety >> Forced.

How so, it's a bad comparison, stalker takes place years after the disaster, killzone portrays it during the disaster, You can't compare it. When you are going to show off a warzone, you have to show of a warzone.