Killzone dev reacts to **** fanboy comment

[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

saolin323

Most shooters are linear, so far from ALL KZ2 videos, this is one of the MOST linear shooters ever created though

The graphics are not finished, but look mediocre, Aliens graphics are not finished but look 2 generations ahead, so why hype KZ2, i do not give a crap about yet another more of the sam linear shooter, that can't even compare to the worst graphically ?

Project Offset is PC/360, that is CONFIRMED !!! Far Cry 2 also looks like day and night better than KZ2, the game simply is one of the worst looking upcoming next gen titles, any gae with a minimal shader coating looks vastly better than that

Also, to nake those graphics look better would take some more years, how far away is that game ? When is its release date, late 2015 ?

1) So far from ALL? And how many videos are there of KZ2? Yup... not many. So it is very unwise to judge.

2) Mediocre? You must have extremely high standards. :| Nothing's gonna remotely please you.

3) Lol, no comment. That's just too much.

4) Now you got even more ridiculous...

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

And I love how people will make fun of him for this. But when lead dev at Valve or the douche dev from Guitar Hero wants to take their time to bash PS3, that's all good. We can use that for months and months to say the PS3 is impossible to dev on. Seems a little hypocritical.

The_Crucible

Here's the thing...Valve has proven themselves BEYOND ANY DOUBT. The Half Life series, Steam, Team Fortress are highly regarded software EVERYWHERE. Guitar Hero is a billion dollar franchise. Harmonix then goes on to make freakin' Rock Band (Huge Success)....Of course they can talk crap and people will listen. THEY'VE EARNED IT.

Guerilla?

Hello? Anyone? Bueller?

They have a lot to prove. And taking down some internet fanboy ain't the way to do it. Just make a fantastic game and your work will speak for itself...Usually.

Right. Yeah, Valve is real respectable this gen. Take a last gen game, port it to 360 and PS3. Take Team Fortress, put it on 360 and PS3 and have it run like crap. Take Portal, (the only REAL good thing to come from Orange Box) and they didn't even create it. Tell me why they have earned my respect as a PS3 owner? By giving the already weak porting to EA? Maybe I'm missing something.

Oh, Guitar hero. yeah, it sells like hotcakes. But tell me where those games push console limits. Tell me how a dev of a game like Guitar Hero knows more about how to work with the PS3 than, let's say, Epic? Tell me a dev on Guitar Hero has really pushed console limitations.

And as for Portal, it would not have been as good without Valve's participation, they were instrumental in shaping the game into what it is today. The designers sad as much in the developers commentary of the game.

You want to talk about Valve's contributions this gen just look at the Steam service and how it's shaping the future of digital distribution on the PC.

As for Guitar Hero, who gives a flying fart about pushing console limitations GH and Rock Band are AMAZING experiences that are fun as hell. Technical proficiency means nothing if your game turns out to be crap.

So far Guerilla's track record is pretty spotty with the only bright spot being the PSP Killzone game. Are your really comparing them to Valve or Harmonix?

Seriously?

"The truth is that NOBODY is releasing the definitive game of the PS3 only 3 years into it's lifespan."

killzone guy, meet metal gear 4 :D

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

And I love how people will make fun of him for this. But when lead dev at Valve or the douche dev from Guitar Hero wants to take their time to bash PS3, that's all good. We can use that for months and months to say the PS3 is impossible to dev on. Seems a little hypocritical.

istreakforfood

Here's the thing...Valve has proven themselves BEYOND ANY DOUBT. The Half Life series, Steam, Team Fortress are highly regarded software EVERYWHERE. Guitar Hero is a billion dollar franchise. Harmonix then goes on to make freakin' Rock Band (Huge Success)....Of course they can talk crap and people will listen. THEY'VE EARNED IT.

Guerilla?

Hello? Anyone? Bueller?

They have a lot to prove. And taking down some internet fanboy ain't the way to do it. Just make a fantastic game and your work will speak for itself...Usually.

Right. Yeah, Valve is real respectable this gen. Take a last gen game, port it to 360 and PS3. Take Team Fortress, put it on 360 and PS3 and have it run like crap. Take Portal, (the only REAL good thing to come from Orange Box) and they didn't even create it. Tell me why they have earned my respect as a PS3 owner? By giving the already weak porting to EA? Maybe I'm missing something.

Oh, Guitar hero. yeah, it sells like hotcakes. But tell me where those games push console limits. Tell me how a dev of a game like Guitar Hero knows more about how to work with the PS3 than, let's say, Epic? Tell me a dev on Guitar Hero has really pushed console limitations.

blame EA for the horrible ps3 port.

[QUOTE="stephant_6"]

[QUOTE="saolin323"]Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shamesaolin323

And Fable 2 puts all of those games to shame as well,right? :roll:

Yes, Fable 2 is 100x bigger in levels than KZ2, has 1000x more detial like grasses, trees, and not only flat empty grounds like Uncharted empty game, and vast cities etc

Killxzone 2 looks like a joke comparing IMO

I think we have found MS fanboy of the year..........

devs are humans too chil outTnasty11

Was this farret7 that said this. Because there was a time I made a stupid comment about them not showing killzone2 in a forum and he ended up quoting me in an interview.

[QUOTE="stephant_6"][QUOTE="NathanDrake"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

wow - just lost respect for another dev. it's suprising how many of them act like children when their work is mildly threatened.. Jaffe, this idiot.

what ever happened to being an artist / professional and letting your work speak for yourself. words only drag most of em down as they never know how to pick em ;)

GIJames248

I think his response was well written.

Let me ask you something. Let's say that you work on something for many years. Obviously you will be proud of what you have done so far and you feel confident that what you have done might be the best or one of the best products out there.

And than all of a sodden a guy comes around who porbably knows nothing about game development and starts to bash your product and starts to say that this other one is better......now how would you feel???

Exactly the point. The guy knows nothing about development,he's just a kid fanboy. The fact that the developer even considered responding to that is a bit astonishing. Games get bashed every day,devs should know this.

He just demonstrated unprofessionalism in my opinion.

How is it unproffesional to state the truth? I agree that I'm surprised he bothered to answer, but I in know way think it unproffesional.

I have to say some of you people are truley amazing with your thought process, there is a section on the playstation forum that is called ask the Devs????? There are responding to question!!! Hence the title ASK THE DEVS!!!!!

[QUOTE="GIJames248"][QUOTE="stephant_6"][QUOTE="NathanDrake"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

wow - just lost respect for another dev. it's suprising how many of them act like children when their work is mildly threatened.. Jaffe, this idiot.

what ever happened to being an artist / professional and letting your work speak for yourself. words only drag most of em down as they never know how to pick em ;)

Ericvon71

I think his response was well written.

Let me ask you something. Let's say that you work on something for many years. Obviously you will be proud of what you have done so far and you feel confident that what you have done might be the best or one of the best products out there.

And than all of a sodden a guy comes around who porbably knows nothing about game development and starts to bash your product and starts to say that this other one is better......now how would you feel???

Exactly the point. The guy knows nothing about development,he's just a kid fanboy. The fact that the developer even considered responding to that is a bit astonishing. Games get bashed every day,devs should know this.

He just demonstrated unprofessionalism in my opinion.

How is it unproffesional to state the truth? I agree that I'm surprised he bothered to answer, but I in know way think it unproffesional.

I have to say some of you people are truley amazing with your thought process, there is a section on the playstation forum that is called ask the Devs????? There are responding to question!!! Hence the title ASK THE DEVS!!!!!

This is why I got flammed by one of them. I wrote a really angry post on why they hadnt shown any killzone 2 stuff yet and farret just burned. Then a few days later in an iterview quoted me.

Was this farret7 that said this. Because there was a time I made a stupid comment about them not showing killzone2 in a forum and he ended up quoting me in an interview.

Killfox

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

wow - just lost respect for another dev. it's suprising how many of them act like children when their work is mildly threatened.. Jaffe, this idiot.

what ever happened to being an artist / professional and letting your work speak for yourself. words only drag most of em down as they never know how to pick em ;)

NathanDrake

I think his response was well written.

Let me ask you something. Let's say that you work on something for many years. Obviously you will be proud of what you have done so far and you feel confident that what you have done might be the best or one of the best products out there.

And than all of a sodden a guy comes around who porbably knows nothing about game development and starts to bash your product and starts to say that this other one is better......now how would you feel???

The developer shouldn't have responded in the first place. He should have let the game do the talking. He did lose all respect from me.

Poor cry baby dev, he got his feelings hurt by some random fanboy in a forum. This just shows you how insecure these guys are about Killzone 2. I mean if Killzone 2 is spectacular in their own eyes, I don't get why you let some random fanboy in a forum get to you. Sometimes when you hear the truth, even fanboys might tell the truth, it just rubs you the wrong way, and this is why the dev reacted like that.

[QUOTE="NathanDrake"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

wow - just lost respect for another dev. it's suprising how many of them act like children when their work is mildly threatened.. Jaffe, this idiot.

what ever happened to being an artist / professional and letting your work speak for yourself. words only drag most of em down as they never know how to pick em ;)

stephant_6

I think his response was well written.

Let me ask you something. Let's say that you work on something for many years. Obviously you will be proud of what you have done so far and you feel confident that what you have done might be the best or one of the best products out there.

And than all of a sodden a guy comes around who porbably knows nothing about game development and starts to bash your product and starts to say that this other one is better......now how would you feel???

Exactly the point. The guy knows nothing about development,he's just a kid fanboy. The fact that the developer even considered responding to that is a bit astonishing. Games get bashed every day,devs should know this.

He just demonstrated unprofessionalism in my opinion.

he should have just typed this:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

YOU FAIL.

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

saolin323

Yea only thing that tops killzone in terrible graphics is fable.

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

saolin323

I am not a PS3 fanboy nor do I own a PS3, but I can just tell you right now that KZ2 already has better graphics than Fable 2 and will have better graphics when it comes out. Why are you hyping Fable 2? The first one was HORRIBLE and the second one looks very unpolished.

Poor cry baby dev, he got his feelings hurt by some random fanboy in a forum. This just shows you how insecure these guys are about Killzone 2. I mean if Killzone 2 is spectacular in their own eyes, I don't get why you let some random fanboy in a forum get to you. Sometimes when you hear the truth, even fanboys might tell the truth, it just rubs you the wrong way, and this is why the dev reacted like that.

ReverseCycology

You probably didn't read the article did you? He basically asked why can't there be more than one good game on the market at once, said that everyone was in amazement of the game from its demos and that the kid who was flaming was factually incorrect.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

MadExponent

I am not a PS3 fanboy nor do I own a PS3, but I can just tell you right now that KZ2 already has better graphics than Fable 2 and will have better graphics when it comes out. Why are you hyping Fable 2? The first one was HORRIBLE and the second one looks very unpolished.

The original Fable was over hyped, the devs over promised, and it under delivered.

Poor cry baby dev, he got his feelings hurt by some random fanboy in a forum. This just shows you how insecure these guys are about Killzone 2. I mean if Killzone 2 is spectacular in their own eyes, I don't get why you let some random fanboy in a forum get to you. Sometimes when you hear the truth, even fanboys might tell the truth, it just rubs you the wrong way, and this is why the dev reacted like that.

ReverseCycology

Right. It was the one fanboy that madde him write that. Sure it was.

OR, its the thousands of them filling boards with misquotes and misinformation about the game. Such as telling us its "teh most linear shooter" because we've seen like 10 minutes of gameplay. Or "that's teh worst A.I. I've ever seen" when we've only seen early play without all A.I. even being used.

Poor cry baby dev, he got his feelings hurt by some random fanboy in a forum. This just shows you how insecure these guys are about Killzone 2. I mean if Killzone 2 is spectacular in their own eyes, I don't get why you let some random fanboy in a forum get to you. Sometimes when you hear the truth, even fanboys might tell the truth, it just rubs you the wrong way, and this is why the dev reacted like that.

ReverseCycology

You probably didn't read the article did you? He basically asked why can't there be more than one good game on the market at once, said that everyone was in amazement of the game from its demos and that the kid who was flaming was factually incorrect.

Poor cry baby dev, he got his feelings hurt by some random fanboy in a forum. This just shows you how insecure these guys are about Killzone 2. I mean if Killzone 2 is spectacular in their own eyes, I don't get why you let some random fanboy in a forum get to you. Sometimes when you hear the truth, even fanboys might tell the truth, it just rubs you the wrong way, and this is why the dev reacted like that.

ReverseCycology

I thought that that dev had the right to OWN that idiot who obviously knows NOTHING about development.

That guy has worked to make that game as good as possible for 3+ years, at E3 everyone is amazed by the game, everyone who knows about games things its jaw dropping. In other words this game could be the best of the year, having all this time, money and technology put into it.

So much has been put into this game to make it amazing, and some idiot has the nerve to bash literally 100's of devs and their hard work, making himself look like a fool. If it were me I'd be angry.

Why should he take this **** from some guy who knows nothing about the game? He deserved the ownage he got, and so does everyone else who think this game will suck knowing nothing about it.

Same goes for anyone else bashing any game. If you have not played it/know nothing about it dont say anything bad about it. You will most likely make yourself look as stupid as the guy who dared to challenge the dev.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

MadExponent

I am not a PS3 fanboy nor do I own a PS3, but I can just tell you right now that KZ2 already has better graphics than Fable 2 and will have better graphics when it comes out. Why are you hyping Fable 2? The first one was HORRIBLE and the second one looks very unpolished.

[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

heretrix

I am not a PS3 fanboy nor do I own a PS3, but I can just tell you right now that KZ2 already has better graphics than Fable 2 and will have better graphics when it comes out. Why are you hyping Fable 2? The first one was HORRIBLE and the second one looks very unpolished.

and fable 1 received an 85% at gr and mc. that's not horrible imo.

fable 2 looks very polished. saolin show him the greatness that is fable 2 lol.

[QUOTE="stephant_6"]

[QUOTE="saolin323"]Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shamesaolin323

And Fable 2 puts all of those games to shame as well,right? :roll:

Yes, Fable 2 is 100x bigger in levels than KZ2, has 1000x more detial like grasses, trees, and not only flat empty grounds like Uncharted empty game, and vast cities etc

Killxzone 2 looks like a joke comparing IMO

Give it up Fable 2 isn't that great by what we seen so far and they probably might flop it because they are trying to do so many things and they could cut out other things like in the first game.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

jlh47

I am not a PS3 fanboy nor do I own a PS3, but I can just tell you right now that KZ2 already has better graphics than Fable 2 and will have better graphics when it comes out. Why are you hyping Fable 2? The first one was HORRIBLE and the second one looks very unpolished.

and fable 1 received an 85% at gr and mc. that's not horrible imo.

fable 2 looks very polished. saolin show him the greatness that is fable 2 lol.

C'mon man don't get him started up. I am so annoyed at seeing those ugly screen shots that I could actually puke.

Too long, didn't read. But I'm going to continue bashing KZ2 so I can bug him.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

jlh47

I am not a PS3 fanboy nor do I own a PS3, but I can just tell you right now that KZ2 already has better graphics than Fable 2 and will have better graphics when it comes out. Why are you hyping Fable 2? The first one was HORRIBLE and the second one looks very unpolished.

and fable 1 received an 85% at gr and mc. that's not horrible imo.

fable 2 looks very polished. saolin show him the greatness that is fable 2 lol.

[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

MadExponent

I am not a PS3 fanboy nor do I own a PS3, but I can just tell you right now that KZ2 already has better graphics than Fable 2 and will have better graphics when it comes out. Why are you hyping Fable 2? The first one was HORRIBLE and the second one looks very unpolished.

and fable 1 received an 85% at gr and mc. that's not horrible imo.

fable 2 looks very polished. saolin show him the greatness that is fable 2 lol.

C'mon man don't get him started up. I am so annoyed at seeing those ugly screen shots that I could actually puke.

funny thing is is that they're not ugly screens...

Too long, didn't read. But I'm going to continue bashing KZ2 so I can bug him.

Eponique

I never bashed KZ2 before really, but now I think I'll start. Gotta get these devs good and riled.

Too long, didn't read. But I'm going to continue bashing KZ2 so I can bug him.

Eponique

And what do you gain from bugging him?

Wow that guy just owned every single fanboy agianst the PS3 and agianst any PS3 game.Wasdie

Don't you mean he owned EVERY FANBOY, not just those against the PS3 and PS3 games in development or are other platforms free game for criticism?

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

saolin323

Shouldn't you be starting another FABLE 2 IS TEH GAME!! thread?

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

Too long, didn't read. But I'm going to continue bashing KZ2 so I can bug him.

Jandurin

I never bashed KZ2 before really, but now I think I'll start. Gotta get these devs good and riled.

I can see it now:

"Look, I had to take time to respond to the ridiculous assumptions that the game would be terrible"

"But the game is terrible"

"Right. But if I didn't have to defend myself on the internet, it would have been better. Owning noobs takes time"

After the hype and praise that was heaped upon the original Killzone, with Sony going as far as using the phrase "Sony's Halo Killer is Coming" in promo material and then the pure letdown of the actual Killzone game, its not unreasonable for gamers to be at least a little leary of Killzone 2.

I hope its an awesome game, I truly do.

However the developers have failed to deliver once, and while videos and trailers are nice the only way that Guerilla will be vindicated is when the game hits the shelves and actually delivers on what we have been promised since 2005.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Wow that guy just owned every single fanboy agianst the PS3 and agianst any PS3 game.heretrix

How so? He basically gave more attention to some braindead teenager than was warranted. A better response is to just make a kick ass game and then let that speak for you.

I said the same thing about Dyack, Jaffe and anyone else dumb enough to stoop to an internet forum fanboy's level.

You are supposed to be making a game, why are you wasting time with this nonsense? It's moronic. You aren't owning anyone but yourself.

Agreed. He needs to develop his energies at developing the game and not responding to silly internet comments. There are millions of these. The way to shut them up- make a good game. :shock:

Wow that guy just owned every single fanboy agianst the PS3 and agianst any PS3 game.Wasdie

In a nutshell....absolutely.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Wow that guy just owned every single fanboy agianst the PS3 and agianst any PS3 game.dhjohns

How so? He basically gave more attention to some braindead teenager than was warranted. A better response is to just make a kick ass game and then let that speak for you.

I said the same thing about Dyack, Jaffe and anyone else dumb enough to stoop to an internet forum fanboy's level.

You are supposed to be making a game, why are you wasting time with this nonsense? It's moronic. You aren't owning anyone but yourself.

Agreed. He needs to develop his energies at developing the game and not responding to silly internet comments. There are millions of these. The way to shut them up- make a good game. :shock:

Click on teh link and look at what section that post was on. Ask the devs forum and the kid did it while the dev was actively answering questions. If you really expected him to brush it off and not denounce the rumors then that's silly.

I cant really stick up for him when he's lying blatantly. The sony rep did not get confused and say it was a movie from the engine. When asked "is this gameplay" he replied "oh yeah, that's all gameplay." Exact words. So, Guerilla Games, stop trying to twist what actually happened and admit that the hype-train rolled a little too far and exaggerations were made.

If it was just one guy who made a mistake; why did guerilla themselves confirm that it was gameplay? It only came out eventually that it wasn't when the people who made it spoke out about the tools they'd used.

[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Wow that guy just owned every single fanboy agianst the PS3 and agianst any PS3 game.najentus

How so? He basically gave more attention to some braindead teenager than was warranted. A better response is to just make a kick ass game and then let that speak for you.

I said the same thing about Dyack, Jaffe and anyone else dumb enough to stoop to an internet forum fanboy's level.

You are supposed to be making a game, why are you wasting time with this nonsense? It's moronic. You aren't owning anyone but yourself.

Agreed. He needs to develop his energies at developing the game and not responding to silly internet comments. There are millions of these. The way to shut them up- make a good game. :shock:

Click on teh link and look at what section that post was on. Ask the devs forum and the kid did it while the dev was actively answering questions. If you really expected him to brush it off and not denounce the rumors then that's silly.

Here is the problem, I expect him to do his job. His job- develop the game. Also, he wasn't answering any questions, he was just responding to negative comments. Here's a thought, make a good game and that will shut everyone up. If the game is going to be half as good as this guy thinks, it should speak for itself.

I feel sorry for the guy, he reacted to the comment when he should have maintained his professionalism. However it must be hard to bite your lip and ignore these idiots. Just hope this doesn't blow up in his face.Burnsmiesta

Point to me the unprofessionalism in his posts. Most people here are talking without reading apparently.

dhjohns

Here is the problem, I expect him to do his job. His job- develop the game. Also, he wasn't answering any questions, he was just responding to negative comments. Here's a thought, make a good game and that will shut everyone up. If the game is going to be half as good as this guy thinks, it should speak for itself.

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2. Go to the interview without researching the company. You might wind up being asked if you're familiar with their work - if you are, then this streamlines the process and shows you're either interested in what the company's been up to or smart enough to fake it.
3. Become a tester thinking it's awesome to be paid to play games all day. Imagine working on a game belonging to a genre that's not your favourite. Now imagine that game is only half finished. Now imagine that as you sit down to play, you get handed a checklist describing the way you're going to play it. All day. Now imagine coming back every day for a week to that.
4. Getting a job as a tester as your way into the industry and assuming that within six weeks you'll be a Game Designer. Testers become Designers because they are good teamworkers with a track record for dependability, a good eye for game mechanics and are capable of communicating their ideas effectively - who were also lucky enough to catch a break. You are not 'owed' your break and may have to apply for a junior position elsewhere to get to the next rung on the ladder.

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That last one is too long to post the whole thing. Yea he wasn't answering questions right? :roll: , you are right that making a game is the best way to shut them up, but his big post was more to clear up misconceptions.

Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shame

On top of that, KZ2 seems like one of the most boring and linear shooters ever created, a game that i would think twice before i owuld ever rent

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Considering it's one of the best looking, if not best looking console FPS, I lol @ you.

lol, that guy is pretty good at not answering questions.

Is it gonna look as good as Crysis?

Answer: 1. Crysis on what sort of PC? That's the problem with PC's.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Wow that guy just owned every single fanboy agianst the PS3 and agianst any PS3 game.dhjohns

Here is the problem, I expect him to do his job. His job- develop the game. Also, he wasn't answering any questions, he was just responding to negative comments. Here's a thought, make a good game and that will shut everyone up. If the game is going to be half as good as this guy thinks, it should speak for itself.

Well, Sony and Guerrilla both remained completely silent, not saying a word on KZ2 from E3 2005 until E3 2007. Where after just remaining silent and completely ignoring insane amounts of criticism, they indeed did proceed to completely destroy 2 years of insults and bashing by doing just what you are asking....letting the game speak for itself.

The devs at Guerrilla, like with any other devs with a game in development, answer fans questions and respond on forums from time to time. Just because he put a little fanboy who does not know his rear end from a hole in the ground in his place by making an educated, professional and mature response, it in no way suggests that "he is not working on his game", lol.