Killzone dev reacts to **** fanboy comment

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Wow that guy just owned every single fanboy agianst the PS3 and agianst any PS3 game.Wasdie

cba to read it,give me the main point plz

How hard is it to read it? It took me a whole minute, you probably wasted more time posting and waiting for somebody to sum it up rather than just reading it yourself.

Yeah, I just thought about that, and it does take the same amount of time to type up a couple of sentences. I read it.

[QUOTE="Udsen"]

Videos from E3? Those aren't verified? KZ2 looks visually amazing..I'm not saying it'll be OMGWTF AAA LOL...just it looks great so far. No, not nice logic.

dhjohns

Exactly. BTW, I was referring to your logic. ;)

My logic is perfectly fine. :|

Always-honest... no offense m8 but change your nick and stop gentle-bashing PS3 on every post you do...

KZ2 trailer was obviously not a gameplay movie,even if many claimed that. I like that you put " " between the failure but you still call it a failure. Noone knows if will be. Still the game will offer (from what weve seen till now) amazing graphics for a FPS game. Will be a failure because wont be like the trailer? We already know it wont...Dont get this gentle-bashing all the time from you m8.

It doesn't matter if you wait or don't wait. If this gen is not over, one is just erroneous about saying Sony has not accomplish anything or what they promise to the consumer. People bash at Bluray at the very beginning... but look it where it stands now. Everything takes step by step and Sony is showing that. With 2008 lineup and Home and LBP on the horizon, it will be a great year for PS3 owners and upcoming PS3 owners.

If Sony has not accomplish by the time this gen is over, then one can say that Sony promised to deliver this but they didn't. From now.... Fanboys just need to keep their mouth shut.... Like that one guy bashing at KillZoneII.

aka_aj03

So as long as Sony delivers before this gen is over, you are OK? Even though the hyperbole from them was- this gen doesn't start until we say, emotion engine hype, etc... That is fine for you, however, as a consumer I am a bit offended by Sony's tactics.

[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="Udsen"]

Videos from E3? Those aren't verified? KZ2 looks visually amazing..I'm not saying it'll be OMGWTF AAA LOL...just it looks great so far. No, not nice logic.

Udsen

Exactly. BTW, I was referring to your logic. ;)

My logic is perfectly fine. :|

Not even close. You haven't played the game and you don't know what the final product will be.

[QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="Udsen"]

Videos from E3? Those aren't verified? KZ2 looks visually amazing..I'm not saying it'll be OMGWTF AAA LOL...just it looks great so far. No, not nice logic.

dhjohns

Exactly. BTW, I was referring to your logic. ;)

My logic is perfectly fine. :|

Not even close. You haven't played the game and you don't know what the final product will be.

I said it looked great. I never said I played the game.

Do you understand yet? Do I need to say it again? KZ2 is one of the best LOOKING console FPS's. I never said it was a good GAME.

Use your head to figure it out.

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]

It doesn't matter if you wait or don't wait. If this gen is not over, one is just erroneous about saying Sony has not accomplish anything or what they promise to the consumer. People bash at Bluray at the very beginning... but look it where it stands now. Everything takes step by step and Sony is showing that. With 2008 lineup and Home and LBP on the horizon, it will be a great year for PS3 owners and upcoming PS3 owners.

If Sony has not accomplish by the time this gen is over, then one can say that Sony promised to deliver this but they didn't. From now.... Fanboys just need to keep their mouth shut.... Like that one guy bashing at KillZoneII.

dhjohns

So as long as Sony delivers before this gen is over, you are OK? Even though the hyperbole from them was- this gen doesn't start until we say, emotion engine hype, etc... That is fine for you, however, as a consumer I am a bit offended by Sony's tactics.

Hypothetically speaking if you have a 360 and ever got a rrod and you have to send your 360 in and wait.....

PlayStation 3 not even been two years in the market and look at their 08 line up and what they have accomplish so far... it pretty safe to say that Sony tactic is far ideal than of MS.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="stephant_6"]

[QUOTE="saolin323"]Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shameEricvon71

And Fable 2 puts all of those games to shame as well,right? :roll:

Yes, Fable 2 is 100x bigger in levels than KZ2, has 1000x more detial like grasses, trees, and not only flat empty grounds like Uncharted empty game, and vast cities etc

Killxzone 2 looks like a joke comparing IMO

I think we have found MS fanboy of the year..........

no, he's just Fable2 fanboy of the decade.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Wow that guy just owned every single fanboy agianst the PS3 and agianst any PS3 game.ukillwegrill

cba to read it,give me the main point plz

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Wow that guy just owned every single fanboy agianst the PS3 and agianst any PS3 game.EuroMafia

cba to read it,give me the main point plz

In an ASK THE DEV THREAD a dev replying doesn't seem like a normal thing to do, is it? :|

Funny how all they talk about is graphics. That's all that Killzone will be good for.sexy_chimp

Assumptions can be very amusing... judging the game before it even release.

[QUOTE="mtron32"] I think you guys have to understand that to a game developer, a fanboy is the equivilant to a complaining traveler in line at the airport. Jandurin

And airline employees lose their temper sometimes. Not that its right but its understandable. Especially in those situations where the customer is being way over dramatic and unrealistic.

Here's what I think the biggest issue with the dev's statement is: They can do nothing but deliver a wow'able game. Anything short of that will get the same fanboys jumping all over your dead body. The must deliver a killer app.

[QUOTE="najentus"]

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]I feel sorry for the guy, he reacted to the comment when he should have maintained his professionalism. However it must be hard to bite your lip and ignore these idiots. Just hope this doesn't blow up in his face.Burnsmiesta

Point to me the unprofessionalism in his posts. Most people here are talking without reading apparently.

So replying with a well written well thought out post is unprofessional?

I think these fanboys should boycott the game. Let's see who'll be owning who.

I think these fanboys should boycott the game. Let's see who'll be owning who.

ReverseCycology

You mean like when cows boycotted Capcom over DMC4? No..wait, they had more reason to boycott than what you're suggesting. You're honestly saying people should boycott Killzone 2 because a dev responded to a fanboy? Really? ReverseCycology, you have no logic at all. You and saolin, my Lord.

Any developer responding to fanboy comments should be fired. It's ethically wrong to do so.Cute_Red_Panda

I don't think the dev was just cruising the forums and saw that and threw up a response.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Funny how all they talk about is graphics. That's all that Killzone will be good for.aka_aj03

Assumptions can be very amusing... judging the game before it even release.

They are not talented developers. No amount of money will change that.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I think these fanboys should boycott the game. Let's see who'll be owning who.

Udsen

You mean like when cows boycotted Capcom over DMC4? No..wait, they had more reason to boycott than what you're suggesting. You're honestly saying people should boycott Killzone 2 because a dev responded to a fanboy? Really? ReverseCycology, you have no logic at all. You and saolin, my Lord.

First paragraph - if it's true that this fanboy is not going to hurt your feelings, then why did you write this little response? Because you have nothing better to do between developing Killzone 2 and sleeping but to prowl through the internet?

Second and Third paragraph - If it's true that the Sony rep claimed it was a movie from the game engine because of "fatigue, jetlag, and the madness that is E3", then why is it that you're only denying his claims just now? Perhaps you should have explained to him what this "representation" was beforehand.

Fourth Paragraph - Until something that is up to the potential of Crysis or looks better than Crysis is on a console, I'll really have my jaw dropped. I'm aware I'm requesting the impossible, but you're getting "dropped jaws" from people that give console games lower standards in terms of graphical prowess.

Fifth Paragraph - The definitive game of the PS3 has always been MGS4, and it has clearly shown what the PS3 is really capable of. No other game on the console can match it.

This dev is an idiot. I think that his time would be better spent working on KZ2 than actually responding to some idiotic poster on the internet. Hell, the way I see it, I guess I'm next!

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"][QUOTE="najentus"]

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]I feel sorry for the guy, he reacted to the comment when he should have maintained his professionalism. However it must be hard to bite your lip and ignore these idiots. Just hope this doesn't blow up in his face.najentus

Point to me the unprofessionalism in his posts. Most people here are talking without reading apparently.

So replying with a well written well thought out post is unprofessional?

It wasn't well-written or well thought out at all. If he really did think, he'd realize that advertising his game to an idiot fanboy isn't the best idea.

First paragraph - if it's true that this fanboy is not going to hurt your feelings, then why did you write this little response? Because you have nothing better to do between developing Killzone 2 and sleeping but to prowl through the internet?

Second and Third paragraph - If it's true that the Sony rep claimed it was a movie from the game engine because of "fatigue, jetlag, and the madness that is E3", then why is it that you're only denying his claims just now? Perhaps you should have explained to him what this "representation" was beforehand.

Fourth Paragraph - Until something that is up to the potential of Crysis or looks better than Crysis is on a console, I'll really have my jaw dropped. I'm aware I'm requesting the impossible, but you're getting "dropped jaws" from people that give console games lower standards in terms of graphical prowess.

Fifth Paragraph - The definitive game of the PS3 has always been MGS4, and it has clearly shown what the PS3 is really capable of. No other game on the console can match it.

This dev is an idiot. I think that his time would be better spent working on KZ2 than actually responding to some idiotic poster on the internet. Hell, the way I see it, I guess I'm next!

princeofshapeir

First paragraph - if it's true that this fanboy is not going to hurt your feelings, then why did you write this little response? Because you have nothing better to do between developing Killzone 2 and sleeping but to prowl through the internet?

Second and Third paragraph - If it's true that the Sony rep claimed it was a movie from the game engine because of "fatigue, jetlag, and the madness that is E3", then why is it that you're only denying his claims just now? Perhaps you should have explained to him what this "representation" was beforehand.

Fourth Paragraph - Until something that is up to the potential of Crysis or looks better than Crysis is on a console, I'll really have my jaw dropped. I'm aware I'm requesting the impossible, but you're getting "dropped jaws" from people that give console games lower standards in terms of graphical prowess.

Fifth Paragraph - The definitive game of the PS3 has always been MGS4, and it has clearly shown what the PS3 is really capable of. No other game on the console can match it.

This dev is an idiot. I think that his time would be better spent working on KZ2 than actually responding to some idiotic poster on the internet. Hell, the way I see it, I guess I'm next!

princeofshapeir

you do realise he is supposed to be on that board right? he isnt just prowling hes supposed to be there to answer questions.

[QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I think these fanboys should boycott the game. Let's see who'll be owning who.

heretrix

You mean like when cows boycotted Capcom over DMC4? No..wait, they had more reason to boycott than what you're suggesting. You're honestly saying people should boycott Killzone 2 because a dev responded to a fanboy? Really? ReverseCycology, you have no logic at all. You and saolin, my Lord.

No. Cows felt betrayed, though. Makes more sense than boycotting because a dev responded to a fanboy.

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Funny how all they talk about is graphics. That's all that Killzone will be good for.sexy_chimp

Assumptions can be very amusing... judging the game before it even release.

They are not talented developers. No amount of money will change that.

[QUOTE="najentus"][QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"][QUOTE="najentus"]

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]I feel sorry for the guy, he reacted to the comment when he should have maintained his professionalism. However it must be hard to bite your lip and ignore these idiots. Just hope this doesn't blow up in his face.princeofshapeir

Point to me the unprofessionalism in his posts. Most people here are talking without reading apparently.

So replying with a well written well thought out post is unprofessional?

It wasn't well-written or well thought out at all. If he really did think, he'd realize that advertising his game to an idiot fanboy isn't the best idea.

@_@ he advertised his game? Where Where.

Exactly the point. The guy knows nothing about development,he's just a kid fanboy. The fact that the developer even considered

responding to that is a bit astonishing. Games get bashed every day,devs should know this.

He just demonstrated unprofessionalism in my opinion.

stephant_6

The poster wasn't talking about techonology. He was talking about the publicity of the game.

That was stupid for the dev to react like that. Come on,it's just a stupid fanboy bashing the game,hundreds of people do that everyday. I think he just made himself look worse by making a big scene rather than just ignoring it.stephant_6

Blow out of proportion? Isn't he allowed to defend the creation he made? And how did he BLOW it out of proportion. Thats like EA not standing up to FOX. That developer didn't slander or attack the comment, he mearly stated that what he did was uncalled for and irrational. Is a developer not allowed to defend himself? Or should they be stepped on like a rug? Don't tell me that you wouldn't have defended yourself..he approached that situation in a civil manner. Not like a "child" like someone else said..

Gorilla Games displayed a tech demo at an E3, just like any developer. The next year they deliver on the tech demo, and all the haters say it was hype. In this industry you cant win for loosing.De_Bears

It wasn't a tech demo, it was just a pre-rendered video, it in no way represents the actual game and killzone 2 in its finished state couldn't technically compare to the render.

It wasn't a tech demo, it was just a pre-rendered video, it in no way represents the actual game and killzone 2 in its finished state couldn't technically compare to the render.michael098

Uuuuhhh.....Yeah it could.

Are you gonna try critiqueing the difference in character models? If so, you're heading for a brick wall.

[QUOTE="stephant_6"]

[QUOTE="saolin323"]Killzone 2 is IMO definatly one of the worst looking shooters coming, the textures are HORRIBLE and textures are non exostent at all in most things, the new Aliens shooter, Project offset, Far Cry 2, Crysis puts those graphics to last last gen shamesaolin323

And Fable 2 puts all of those games to shame as well,right? :roll:

Yes, Fable 2 is 100x bigger in levels than KZ2, has 1000x more detial like grasses, trees, and not only flat empty grounds like Uncharted empty game, and vast cities etc

Killxzone 2 looks like a joke comparing IMO

Yes, even KZ2 looks better than Fable 2, sorry.

I still think Fable 2 looks bad. I was expecting more form that game.

Pre-Alpha are concept sketchs as Alpha is the first build engine that is barley playable and missing many things that will be implemented in the final game.l

The fact is any dev who says "Dont judge this game, its pre-alpha" is trying to build hype for their game.

Pre-Alpha are concept sketchs as Alpha is the first build engine that is barley playable and missing many things that will be implemented in the final game.lhtekemerald

That all depends on what the final build of the game looks like. The more recent the generation, the more layers the environments and character models have.

wow - just lost respect for another dev. it's suprising how many of them act like children when their work is mildly threatened.. Jaffe, this idiot.

what ever happened to being an artist / professional and letting your work speak for yourself. words only drag most of em down as they never know how to pick em ;)

3picuri3

i'm super sure hes crying in his office cause he lost YOUR respect. You shouldnt say things like that it might offend someone.

Wow that guy just owned every single fanboy agianst the PS3 and agianst any PS3 game.Wasdie

Not really. But he sure as hell owned that fanboy.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

wow - just lost respect for another dev. it's suprising how many of them act like children when their work is mildly threatened.. Jaffe, this idiot.

what ever happened to being an artist / professional and letting your work speak for yourself. words only drag most of em down as they never know how to pick em ;)

nippon_gamer

i'm super sure hes crying in his office cause he lost YOUR respect. You shouldnt say things like that it might offend someone.

i don't think for others ;) so i don't care what him - or you think about my opinion.

thanks for the input though.

[QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I think these fanboys should boycott the game. Let's see who'll be owning who.

heretrix

You mean like when cows boycotted Capcom over DMC4? No..wait, they had more reason to boycott than what you're suggesting. You're honestly saying people should boycott Killzone 2 because a dev responded to a fanboy? Really? ReverseCycology, you have no logic at all. You and saolin, my Lord.

lol I know, Usden criticises other fanboys for not using logic and then comes out with stuff like this himself! Usden, you're not one to talk, your one of the biggest fanboys around! lol

Please explain to me in words, why the DMC4 Devs should be boycotted because they went multiplat? Is it un-ethical to deal with MS as they are secretly drug-dealers lol.

lol I know, Usden criticises other fanboys for not using logic and then comes out with stuff like this himself! Usden, you're not one to talk, your one of the biggest fanboys around! lol

Please explain to me in words, why the DMC4 Devs should be boycotted because they went multiplat? Is it un-ethical to deal with MS as they are secretly drug-dealers lol.

DAZZER7

I'm not endorsing either side of the boycott fence here, but I'd like to point out that there would actually be more warrant to boycott Capcom's DMC4 since they waited so long to actually announce the game's multiplat status. They drop the news mere days before the European release of the PS3--A blatantly malicious attempt at sabotage on Capcom's part. If they'd actually told us the game would be released for the 360 months in advance, there wouldn't be a problem.

This is opposed to a comment by a dev that corrects the misconceptions of a person who thought Guerrila (and Sony) said something about Killzone that they actually did not. Boycott over that? Please.

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]lol I know, Usden criticises other fanboys for not using logic and then comes out with stuff like this himself! Usden, you're not one to talk, your one of the biggest fanboys around! lol

Please explain to me in words, why the DMC4 Devs should be boycotted because they went multiplat? Is it un-ethical to deal with MS as they are secretly drug-dealers lol.

Pariah_001

I'm not endorsing either side of the boycott fence here, but I'd like to point out that there would actually be more warrant to boycott Capcom's DMC4 since they waited so long to actually announce the game's multiplat status. They drop the news mere days before the European release of the PS3--A blatantly malicious attempt at sabotage on Capcom's part. If they'd actually told us the game would be released for the 360 months in advance, there wouldn't be a problem.

This is opposed to a comment by a dev that corrects the misconceptions of a person who thought Guerrila (and Sony) said something about Killzone that they actually did not. Boycott over that? Please.

I think both reasons to boycott are ludicrous! Yep, Killzone 2 developers Guerilla were doing an 'ask the devs' thread. Fair enough but they showed complete un-professionalism in getting sucked into such a debate. But then again, I'm not going to be too hard on them as they passionately believe in their work and who would! So a silly bit of unprofessionalism on their part but certainly not worthy of a boycott.

Now Capcom with DMC4. I will put my hand up and say I didnt know that was the exact reason people were boycotting Capcom. I thought they were simple because they went multi! However, when a company announces new information should really be up to them. I would argue that it would have been more damaging to the PS3 if the information had been released earlier and given time to disseminate down to the general consumers and casuals! Not to mention there were several launches around the world over several months by different systems during that time. At some point it would have clashed with a launch. Maybe? I'm not sure myself, but I am sure that its a pretty tenuous reason to boycott a game.

But thats my take on it mate.

Still looks like crap, the ps1 texture quality don't help at all, keep hyping your flop game cows.BovinesOnPaska

uninstall fanboy.exe dude...seriously

[QUOTE="BovinesOnPaska"]Still looks like crap, the ps1 texture quality don't help at all, keep hyping your flop game cows.zero_snake99

uninstall fanboy.exe dude...seriously

Lol, that was good.

Anyways, it's nice to see devs standing up for their games. I thought he responded in the right manor also.

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"][QUOTE="najentus"]

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]I feel sorry for the guy, he reacted to the comment when he should have maintained his professionalism. However it must be hard to bite your lip and ignore these idiots. Just hope this doesn't blow up in his face.najentus

Point to me the unprofessionalism in his posts. Most people here are talking without reading apparently.

So replying with a well written well thought out post is unprofessional?

His anger came through in his post. Why did he even have to come down to the fanboys level by acknowledging him?
He needs to suck it up, accept this will always happen and get to the business of making a quality title.