Killzone Open Beta - Thoughts?

Hey SW and Killzone Fans,
Have you tried the open beta yet? If so what are your thoughts?

My thoughts:

I never was a Killzone fan, and to be honest this beta still hasn't changed my opinion on it. I mean you think after the second installment, they could change the controls to have L2 as aim down scope, and R2 for fire...What was the point of making L2 and R2 trigger fingers if the first hand developers do not utilize it as such?

I will say they had vastly improved the crouch which uses the L button interface rather than the awkward second analog stick.

It would be nice to have a thread where we can peacefully discuss the beta, but unfortunately there is a sticky so good luck finding an intelligent conversation amongs the lemmings sense of accomplishment over the games "flop" and the DC from the cows.

The last couple matches I've been in its been incredibly unbalanced. There would be like 6 people on one team, then 2 on the other. I guess its because I was playing at 1 in the morning since I didnt have that problem during the day.

Edit: and I prefer R1 for shooting and holding L2 to crouch on the PS3, it feels much better imo.

It would be nice to have a thread where we can peacefully discuss the beta, but unfortunately there is a sticky so good luck finding an intelligent conversation amongs the lemmings sense of accomplishment over the games "flop" and the DC from the cows.

brennan7777

I agree. I didn't see a KZ3 Open Beta sticky thread. So I assumed it was alright to post this thread.

laggity lag lag.

laggity lag lag.

EddieTheHead84

I didnt have lag at all in any of the matches I played in.

I spent a few hours on it last night. I love it. I am not very into MP to be honest. I laways dig fighting through the story based campaign more. But I have to say I am really liking KZ3 beta. I do agree with TC, I want to use the R2 button as my trigger. I always do in SP so every once in a while it trips me up. But overall it is a lot of fun. cainetao11

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laggity lag lag.

SuprmanLuvHandl

I didnt have lag at all in any of the matches I played in.

The last couple matches I've been in its been incredibly unbalanced. There would be like 6 people on one team, then 2 on the other. I guess its because I was playing at 1 in the morning since I didnt have that problem during the day.

Edit: and I prefer R1 for shooting and holding L2 to crouch on the PS3, it feels much better imo.

SuprmanLuvHandl

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laggity lag lag.

soulitane

I didnt have lag at all in any of the matches I played in.

Oh and to reply to what you said I have to disagree. The R2 button on the Dualshock is terrible. I need something that is more quick, accessible and responsive which makes the R1 my prefered shoot button.

The beta hasn't done much for me except somewhat make me regret I pre-ordered it. Ehhh, I'll keep playing it for a few more days and see what I think after that.

Oh and to reply to what you said I have to disagree. The R2 button on the Dualshock is terrible. I need something that is more quick, accessible and responsive which makes the R1 my prefered shoot button.

brennan7777

I'm not saying the L1/R2 should be mandatory, but to deny such option is the reason I opted out of KZ2 in the first place. it seems the developer can't understand that there are people that prefer to have this option like myself. The trigger buttons feel more comfortable, and is easily within reach so I can pull fast shots and the like. If they follow what Activision does and add it as an extra option, I wouldn't complain. :P

My new favourite console shooter

Hey SW and Killzone Fans,
Have you tried the open beta yet? If so what are your thoughts?

My thoughts:

I never was a Killzone fan, and to be honest this beta still hasn't changed my opinion on it. I mean you think after the second installment, they could change the controls to have L2 as aim down scope, and R2 for fire...What was the point of making L2 and R2 trigger fingers if the first hand developers do not utilize it as such?

I will say they had vastly improved the crouch which uses the L button interface rather than the awkward second analog stick.

Zanoh

Umm, you know you CAN switch that, right?

Go into Options and Wireless Controller and change your controls to "Alternate" which is basically COD controls (L1 to aim, R3 to melee). Then, down below where the sensitivity settings are, you should see two options. One says "Swap R1 and R2" and the other says "Swap L1 and L2." Swap both those and voila: Aiming with L2; shooting with R2.

I generally prefer L1/R1 for aiming/shooting, but L2 and R2 can be comfortable as well if you have Dual Triggers like I do.

EDIT: Dead Space 2, BioShock 2, and Call Of Duty ALSO have this under their options settings. So it seems like developers are starting to listen. The difference on those games though is that you only have the option to swap both, whereas on Killzone 3 you can swap one, the other, or both. Either way, I know it's a pain, but I feel that the one thing that consoles should borrow from the PC is full button mapping in all games a la the Resistance games.

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Oh and to reply to what you said I have to disagree. The R2 button on the Dualshock is terrible. I need something that is more quick, accessible and responsive which makes the R1 my prefered shoot button.

Zanoh

I'm not saying the L1/R2 should be mandatory, but to deny such option is the reason I opted out of KZ2 in the first place. it seems the developer can't understand that there are people that prefer to have this option like myself. The trigger buttons feel more comfortable, and is easily within reach so I can pull fast shots and the like. If they follow what Activision does and add it as an extra option, I wouldn't complain. :P

Gonna try my Fragnstein tomorrow probably, test it out. If it doesn't work well, color me uninterested. I hate using controllers for FPS games.DragonfireXZ95

How is that anyway? I've seen videos and it looks great. I'd love to pick one up eventually. Then I'd have 3 options for shooters (DS3, Move, and FnS).

Anyway, I know for a fact that it worked with Killzone 2. I see no reason why it wouldn't work with Killzone 3. If anything, it should work better with the higher sensitivity and smoother controls.

Also, random sidenote: I know Killzone 3 will more than likely have Custom Soundtracks as KZ2 did, but it annoyed me that they didn't at least allow it in the Botzone portion of the beta. I totally understand not having it in there though because they want people to listen to the stellar score and sound design though.

I only had time to play a few matches and I have to get used to the lowered health / higher damage or whatever since I'm still used to KZ2, but I like what I've played so far.

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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

Oh and to reply to what you said I have to disagree. The R2 button on the Dualshock is terrible. I need something that is more quick, accessible and responsive which makes the R1 my prefered shoot button.

Messiahbolical-

I'm not saying the L1/R2 should be mandatory, but to deny such option is the reason I opted out of KZ2 in the first place. it seems the developer can't understand that there are people that prefer to have this option like myself. The trigger buttons feel more comfortable, and is easily within reach so I can pull fast shots and the like. If they follow what Activision does and add it as an extra option, I wouldn't complain. :P

I said this in an earlier post. :P

Agreed. This is one of the things I loved about the Resistance series and wish more games would cop from PCs on consoles: Button mapping for every game. I know devs try to pick the best button combos to fit their games that they can, but some design choices just feel awkward. The hardest part of button mapping I imagine would be accounting for when the user has changed their controls settings and a context sensitive prompt appears on the screen.

For example, in Killzone 3 you sneak up on an enemy for a stealth kill. Normally it says "L1" but you've switched to the "Alternate" setting. Now it prompts you to press "R3", which is your new melee button. Coding for button mapping wouldn't be immensely hard I believe, but you would have to take all those context sensitive situations into account so that the onscreen prompt matched what the user changed the controls to. I imagine a lot of devs just see it as an oversight or a waste of time.

I will say that Killzone 3 is one of the better shooters, but I don't plan on buying it.

I'm absolutely loving it. BTW, for everyone not happy with the shooting layout, buy the 5 dollar real triggers. They work great and instantly make your R2 and L2 buttons feel comparable to the triggers on the 360 controller. Ever since I got them I reversed the shooting layout on all my shooters and haven't looked back. incuensuocha

Agreed. Bought 4 sets for all my controllers. :)

They're great for those few games that don't allow remapping to L1/R1 like BioShock. Also, they feel way better for driving games and even if you don't remap aiming and shooting to them they're great for secondary weapons (grenades, etc.).

I'm absolutely loving it. BTW, for everyone not happy with the shooting layout, buy the 5 dollar real triggers. They work great and instantly make your R2 and L2 buttons feel comparable to the triggers on the 360 controller. Ever since I got them I reversed the shooting layout on all my shooters and haven't looked back. incuensuocha

The ISA death screams are so cheesy I want to switch my speakers off every time I hear them.

I do enjoy it often. I mean, I prefer the Killzone 2 weighty feel a lot more and is multiplayer set up but this game is still great. I am stll buying it because I enjoyed the multplayer but I hate that the beta sometimes will not let me connect at all. I dont know what is wrong with it.

Looks great and plays great. I haven't experienced any lag problems.

I cant seen to play longer than 20 minutes... I'm getting used to the exaggerated movement on the guns, and I'm not talking about the recoil. More like when your getting ready to aim. And the field of view is what has bothered me the most, its not easy to see whats around you, I feel bunched in to a little 4:3 screen. I was planning on buying the game, but after the beta I'm not so sure, I just cant see myself playing the MP much after the game is out.

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Oh and to reply to what you said I have to disagree. The R2 button on the Dualshock is terrible. I need something that is more quick, accessible and responsive which makes the R1 my prefered shoot button.

Zanoh

I'm not saying the L1/R2 should be mandatory, but to deny such option is the reason I opted out of KZ2 in the first place. it seems the developer can't understand that there are people that prefer to have this option like myself. The trigger buttons feel more comfortable, and is easily within reach so I can pull fast shots and the like. If they follow what Activision does and add it as an extra option, I wouldn't complain. :P

If you wish hard enough, GG might implement L2/R2 aiming and shoot mechanics.

Oh wait, it's already there... :o The "Options" menu really is a gift from the heavens...

When I played it, I was like o.o am I playing bad company 2? You have to admit the feel is pretty similar.

When I played it, I was like o.o am I playing bad company 2? You have to admit the feel is pretty similar.

supdotcom

Na, I thought I was playing Killzone...

When I played it, I was like o.o am I playing bad company 2? You have to admit the feel is pretty similar.

supdotcom

I thought it was pretty awesome except for how cheap the Sniper Rifle, those Marksmen were killing me with that gun when I was right in front of them and that's not how the Sniper Rifle worked in Killzone 2.

I thought it was pretty awesome except for how cheap the Sniper Rifle, those Marksmen were killing me with that gun when I was right in front of them and that's not how the Sniper Rifle worked in Killzone 2.

Demonjoe93

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I thought it was pretty awesome except for how cheap the Sniper Rifle, those Marksmen were killing me with that gun when I was right in front of them and that's not how the Sniper Rifle worked in Killzone 2.

RadecSupreme

Sniper rifle in KZ3 works too well without scoping. FAIL compared to KZ2.

It's fun. I like it.

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I thought it was pretty awesome except for how cheap the Sniper Rifle, those Marksmen were killing me with that gun when I was right in front of them and that's not how the Sniper Rifle worked in Killzone 2.

RadecSupreme

Wait, Marksmen don't have to use the Sniper Rifle?

Im loving the beta. A lot has changed since the Closed Beta. But its quite sad that they didn't put in the turbine map and highway.

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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

I thought it was pretty awesome except for how cheap the Sniper Rifle, those Marksmen were killing me with that gun when I was right in front of them and that's not how the Sniper Rifle worked in Killzone 2.

Demonjoe93

Wait, Marksmen don't have to use the Sniper Rifle?

Hey SW and Killzone Fans,
Have you tried the open beta yet? If so what are your thoughts?

My thoughts:

I never was a Killzone fan, and to be honest this beta still hasn't changed my opinion on it. I mean you think after the second installment, they could change the controls to have L2 as aim down scope, and R2 for fire...What was the point of making L2 and R2 trigger fingers if the first hand developers do not utilize it as such?

I will say they had vastly improved the crouch which uses the L button interface rather than the awkward second analog stick.

Zanoh

You can use L2 for fire and R2 for aim down.

Just go on options somewhere and it should say something like switch l1 and l2.

If this has already been posted mb

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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

Oh and to reply to what you said I have to disagree. The R2 button on the Dualshock is terrible. I need something that is more quick, accessible and responsive which makes the R1 my prefered shoot button.

xYamatox

I'm not saying the L1/R2 should be mandatory, but to deny such option is the reason I opted out of KZ2 in the first place. it seems the developer can't understand that there are people that prefer to have this option like myself. The trigger buttons feel more comfortable, and is easily within reach so I can pull fast shots and the like. If they follow what Activision does and add it as an extra option, I wouldn't complain. :P

If you wish hard enough, GG might implement L2/R2 aiming and shoot mechanics.

Oh wait, it's already there... :o The "Options" menu really is a gift from the heavens...

Oh my previous post was already said by you.

Agh just woke up I should read the whole thread xDD