Killzone Shadowfall is MP graphics king. (no 56k)

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

 

Why does it have to be new and groundbreaking? Can't it just be judged on actual merit; i.e. that it's a really entertaining game to play? You know, kind of fulfilling the role that video games predominantly exist for?

And lol @ moaing about lack of creativity when you're stood in a Killzone thread.

tormentos

Because if you call something new or innovative damn it has to be,the game is COD with mech and jetpacks,is clear this game was done to ryde on COD multiplayer popularity is from the same damn creators.

The is funny because Killzone 2 multiplayer was by far and away one of the most difficult to pick games,it had a steep learning curve,it wasn't COD in any way shape or form,it was clear that the multiplayer wasn't aiming to be another COD.

Even if that's all it is, how many other games actually do that? 

Yeah KZ2 had a steep learning curve but that had more to do with shitty laggy aiming than it did actual game mechanics. KZ3 was the opposite and was very easy to pick up and play. KZ3 was more like CoD than Titanfall is

Personally I prefer the Battlefield style of ammo resupply :P

Zaibach

You filthy casual :P

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

 

Why does it have to be new and groundbreaking? Can't it just be judged on actual merit; i.e. that it's a really entertaining game to play? You know, kind of fulfilling the role that video games predominantly exist for?

And lol @ moaing about lack of creativity when you're stood in a Killzone thread.

seanmcloughlin

Because if you call something new or innovative damn it has to be,the game is COD with mech and jetpacks,is clear this game was done to ryde on COD multiplayer popularity is from the same damn creators.

The is funny because Killzone 2 multiplayer was by far and away one of the most difficult to pick games,it had a steep learning curve,it wasn't COD in any way shape or form,it was clear that the multiplayer wasn't aiming to be another COD.

Even if that's all it is, how many other games actually do that? 

Yeah KZ2 had a steep learning curve but that had more to do with shitty laggy aiming than it did actual game mechanics. KZ3 was the opposite and was very easy to pick up and play. KZ3 was more like CoD than Titanfall is

I still don't get why people think Killzone 3 is like CoD. I've extensively played both games, and I can confidently say that they're two very different games.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

Because if you call something new or innovative damn it has to be,the game is COD with mech and jetpacks,is clear this game was done to ryde on COD multiplayer popularity is from the same damn creators.

The is funny because Killzone 2 multiplayer was by far and away one of the most difficult to pick games,it had a steep learning curve,it wasn't COD in any way shape or form,it was clear that the multiplayer wasn't aiming to be another COD.

Demonjoe93

Even if that's all it is, how many other games actually do that? 

Yeah KZ2 had a steep learning curve but that had more to do with shitty laggy aiming than it did actual game mechanics. KZ3 was the opposite and was very easy to pick up and play. KZ3 was more like CoD than Titanfall is

I still don't get why people think Killzone 3 is like CoD. I've extensively played both games, and I can confidently say that they're two very different games.

I'm not saying it's a CoD clone, just that if Titanfall is like CoD then so is KZ3

All of these games being called CoD clones are very rarely actually like CoD

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Even if that's all it is, how many other games actually do that? 

Yeah KZ2 had a steep learning curve but that had more to do with shitty laggy aiming than it did actual game mechanics. KZ3 was the opposite and was very easy to pick up and play. KZ3 was more like CoD than Titanfall is

seanmcloughlin

I still don't get why people think Killzone 3 is like CoD. I've extensively played both games, and I can confidently say that they're two very different games.

I'm not saying it's a CoD clone, just that if Titanfall is like CoD then so is KZ3

All of these games being called CoD clones are very rarely actually like CoD

Oh, I know what you were saying. :P

I just hate that other people in this thread go around throwing the words "CoD clone" onto everything with a first-person perspective and a gun in your hands. I really do not think most of the people who say that stuff have played either Killzone 2 or 3.

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

people who are complaining that the game is blurry need to watch high-res videos of this game.

 

the game uses depth of field and other effects which are part of next-gen visual effects.

 

its sad to watch people who watch videos of this game in low res and claim they know what they're talking about.

seanmcloughlin

I've watched the 900MB video and they're right. It is over blurry at times but that's a staple of a Killzone game. GG use far too much motion blur and other blurry effects to make the image blend together a bit better and hide some of the uglier aspects so they dont' clash against others.

It's not AS blurry as others are saying but it's still there. It's like a fuzzy look to the visuals

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

people who are complaining that the game is blurry need to watch high-res videos of this game.

 

the game uses depth of field and other effects which are part of next-gen visual effects.

 

its sad to watch people who watch videos of this game in low res and claim they know what they're talking about.

gpuking

I've watched the 900MB video and they're right. It is over blurry at times but that's a staple of a Killzone game. GG use far too much motion blur and other blurry effects to make the image blend together a bit better and hide some of the uglier aspects so they dont' clash against others.

It's not AS blurry as others are saying but it's still there. It's like a fuzzy look to the visuals

Its high end PC graphics on a $400 console.  KillZone Shadow Fall is the Bees Knees.

[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I've watched the 900MB video and they're right. It is over blurry at times but that's a staple of a Killzone game. GG use far too much motion blur and other blurry effects to make the image blend together a bit better and hide some of the uglier aspects so they dont' clash against others.

It's not AS blurry as others are saying but it's still there. It's like a fuzzy look to the visuals

clyde46

[QUOTE="Consternated"]Crysis 3 has better graphics. gpuking

It really doesn't.

Yeah, pick the worst C3 MP screens you can find as always :roll:

From the open alpha:

Not mine. From the Lost island DLC:

Some more:

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

 

Why does it have to be new and groundbreaking? Can't it just be judged on actual merit; i.e. that it's a really entertaining game to play? You know, kind of fulfilling the role that video games predominantly exist for?

And lol @ moaing about lack of creativity when you're stood in a Killzone thread.

seanmcloughlin

Because if you call something new or innovative damn it has to be,the game is COD with mech and jetpacks,is clear this game was done to ryde on COD multiplayer popularity is from the same damn creators.

The is funny because Killzone 2 multiplayer was by far and away one of the most difficult to pick games,it had a steep learning curve,it wasn't COD in any way shape or form,it was clear that the multiplayer wasn't aiming to be another COD.

Even if that's all it is, how many other games actually do that? 

Yeah KZ2 had a steep learning curve but that had more to do with shitty laggy aiming than it did actual game mechanics. KZ3 was the opposite and was very easy to pick up and play. KZ3 was more like CoD than Titanfall is

My next review: Max Payne (PS2)

Demonjoe93sig

Oh man.. i hope you played the PC version aswell so your opinion on Max Payne may not be tainted. The PS2 port is shit for I and II both. The OG Xbox ports are far better.. but still not that good due to clunky controls.

Yeah, pick the worst C3 MP screens you can find as always :roll:

From the open alphaBen-Buja

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93sig"]

My next review: Max Payne (PS2)

Lucianu

Oh man.. i hope you played the PC version aswell so your opinion on Max Payne may not be tainted. The PS2 port is shit for I and II both. The OG Xbox ports are far better.. but still not that good due to clunky controls.

Unfortunately, I did play it on PS2. It was decent, but it had flaws.

Looks shitty

Rage010101

It looks great, my concern is, are they using dedicated servers and with the blue tooth PS4 controller input lag. I know the X1 will use primarily dedicated servers for their MP games plus the controller uses Wifi direct for much less input lag. I think after a while if you play MP games on X1 and then go play on PS4 you will notice a difference.

[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]Yeah, pick the worst C3 MP screens you can find as always :roll:

From the open alphagpuking

how about you change the thread to MP particle king then :roll:

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

people who are complaining that the game is blurry need to watch high-res videos of this game.

 

the game uses depth of field and other effects which are part of next-gen visual effects.

 

its sad to watch people who watch videos of this game in low res and claim they know what they're talking about.

seanmcloughlin

I've watched the 900MB video and they're right. It is over blurry at times but that's a staple of a Killzone game. GG use far too much motion blur and other blurry effects to make the image blend together a bit better and hide some of the uglier aspects so they dont' clash against others.

It's not AS blurry as others are saying but it's still there. It's like a fuzzy look to the visuals

Perhaps they can be turned off in the options menu?

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

 

Why does it have to be new and groundbreaking? Can't it just be judged on actual merit; i.e. that it's a really entertaining game to play? You know, kind of fulfilling the role that video games predominantly exist for?

And lol @ moaing about lack of creativity when you're stood in a Killzone thread.

tormentos

Because if you call something new or innovative damn it has to be,the game is COD with mech and jetpacks,is clear this game was done to ryde on COD multiplayer popularity is from the same damn creators.

The is funny because Killzone 2 multiplayer was by far and away one of the most difficult to pick games,it had a steep learning curve,it wasn't COD in any way shape or form,it was clear that the multiplayer wasn't aiming to be another COD.

[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]Yeah, pick the worst C3 MP screens you can find as always :roll:

From the open alphagpuking

Well they aren't action shots were particles really would be visible apart from the last one. Crysis 3 has local realtime reflections too though, the pictures don't really show it off that well. Here's a better one from the alpha:

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

I'm happy Shadow Fall is getting attention. I hope GG capitalizes on this by making a game that has lasting appeal. It's the only next gen exclusive shooter coming out this year. This is a pretty big opportunity for them and the KZ franchise.

Zaibach

GG are very talented team of devs, I agree, I too hope they capitalize on the attention they are getting.

If I were sony, I would put the KZ games front and centre of their PS4 marketing 

Unfortunately, I did play it on PS2. It was decent, but it had flaws.

Demonjoe93

I'm a big fan of the series, but it was unplayable for me after a couple of levels. I could stand the painfully bad graphics in comparison to the PC version, but i really couldn't stand the horrid controls, long loading times and wildly inconsistent framerate.

To put things into perspective based on my experience playing all three versions, the OG Xbox port is light years ahead of the PS2 port... and the PC version is light years ahead of the Xbox version.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

Because if you call something new or innovative damn it has to be,the game is COD with mech and jetpacks,is clear this game was done to ryde on COD multiplayer popularity is from the same damn creators.

The is funny because Killzone 2 multiplayer was by far and away one of the most difficult to pick games,it had a steep learning curve,it wasn't COD in any way shape or form,it was clear that the multiplayer wasn't aiming to be another COD.

campzor

Even if that's all it is, how many other games actually do that? 

Yeah KZ2 had a steep learning curve but that had more to do with shitty laggy aiming than it did actual game mechanics. KZ3 was the opposite and was very easy to pick up and play. KZ3 was more like CoD than Titanfall is

Then that kind of negates his argument even further

[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]Yeah, pick the worst C3 MP screens you can find as always :roll:

From the open alphaCroidX

how about you change the thread to MP particle king then :roll:

C3 has pretty good particles as well, albeit not as exaggerated in their size. There are volumetric smoke and fog shadows, The smoke is even affected by explosions too.

at 2:01 there's the bit about particles.

Nevertheless it's amazing what Guerilla Games pulled off in a launch title and in the mp too.

lol console graphics king.

[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]Yeah, pick the worst C3 MP screens you can find as always :roll:

From the open alphagpuking

:|

:lol:

no destruction - check

looks worst than the single player - check

small maps - check

small player count - check

virgin basement dweller having a hard on for shitty graphics - check

your opinion means shit - check

#STAYMADNREPLYWITHRAGE :cool:

[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]Yeah, pick the worst C3 MP screens you can find as always :roll:

From the open alphaseanmcloughlin

:|

Thank you, thats the part I was talking about.

Looks simply stunning.

[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]Yeah, pick the worst C3 MP screens you can find as always :roll:

From the open alphaseanmcloughlin

:|

How many times does the TC have to been shown Crysis 3 graphics to shut him up :roll:

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"] Those do look better but still lacking the insane particles, lighting and reflections of Shadowfall.

clone01

:|

Sure thing dude, I'm waiting for Outlast to come out soon and then A Machine for Pigs

:lol:

no destruction - check

looks worst than the single player - check

small maps - check

small player count - check

virgin basement dweller having a hard on for shitty graphics - check

your opinion means shit - check

#STAYMADNREPLYWITHRAGE :cool:

Tessellation

Wow i did not know so many things were wrong with Titanfall..:lol:

I wonder how it doesn't hit 1080p with all those problems you name there..:cool:

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

I'm happy Shadow Fall is getting attention. I hope GG capitalizes on this by making a game that has lasting appeal. It's the only next gen exclusive shooter coming out this year. This is a pretty big opportunity for them and the KZ franchise.

GuNsbl4ziN

GG are very talented team of devs, I agree, I too hope they capitalize on the attention they are getting.

If I were sony, I would put the KZ games front and centre of their PS4 marketing 

Wow, I never knew it was possible but all those badly compressed gifs make this game look hideous !

Would you look at that... another gpuking thread proclaiming his unfettered love for his favorite piece of plastic. Killzone looks good though, it'll be nice once we get some direct-feed shots from Digital Foundry though.

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]

:lol:

no destruction - check

looks worst than the single player - check

small maps - check

small player count - check

virgin basement dweller having a hard on for shitty graphics - check

your opinion means shit - check

#STAYMADNREPLYWITHRAGE :cool:

tormentos

Wow i did not know so many things were wrong with Titanfall..:lol:

I wonder how it doesn't hit 1080p with all those problems you name there..:cool:

Would you look at that... another gpuking thread proclaiming his unfettered love for his favorite piece of plastic. Killzone looks good though, it'll be nice once we get some direct-feed shots from Digital Foundry though.

Stevo_the_gamer

Too lazy to post any vids/pic etc. But KZ:SF really has nothing on BF4 PC imo.Sushiglutton

meh... i remember i played Battle field 3 and was driving a tank and couldn't even destroy a block of cement in the floor. That was it for that game with me.

Came in expecting a bunch of animated gif images.

Yep.

Not better graphics than Crysis 3 btw.

Even Metro looks better.

[QUOTE="gpuking"]

[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

Considering how Killzone 2 and Killzone 3 multiplayer looked this doesn't seem to be the sort of leap I would have expected. And aside from all the post process effects I don't see anything particularly amazing about the texture detail, geometry, lighting or physics. I think Battlefield 4 is more impressive in those areas. 

kalipekona

You need to go back to KZ3 mp again.

Thanks for proving my point. 

Yes, KZSF clearly looks better, but it isn't a dramatic leap of the sort that would send KZSF ahead of all other games as you claim it does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAt3GTOngJM

I mean, honestly, watch that Killzone 3 multiplayer footage above and try to tell me that KZSF represents a dramatic leap over that.

Edit: I also wanted to add that the foliage quality in that first shot looks decidedly current gen (aside from maybe the tree's leaves). Especially the grass, which is of a pretty poor quality. Lots of alpha aliasing there too. And look at the ground between the clumps of grass--the textures there look surprisingly low resolution. It actually reminds me of this particular section in Gears of War 3 that had grass and ground textures that looked similar to that. The textures on the small stones, the walkway border, and the large rocks are also pretty average-looking.

Maybe. But at the end of the day it is still Killzone.

I lol'ed at the Halo shield in the video. I guess Bungie should be flattered.

timbers_WSU

awful frame rate and does not even look that great.