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#51 NineTailedGoku
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LMAO @ the lack of lems in this thread:lol:

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#52 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

I like the Game Juggling info. Sounds pretty neat. That's the only part I liked though.

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This. The PS Vita does the same already so i'm wondering whether it's a feature we'll see make the jump to the PS4 too though, i'm also a tad surprised Sony hasn't got this patented to prevent MS doing it?

umm don't think you would be able patented something like that. Either way that stuff be going on in computers FOR YEARS
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#53 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

I like the Game Juggling info. Sounds pretty neat. That's the only part I liked though.

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Really? I have never wanted to pause a game to start playing another one :|. Don't get under what circumstance you would want to do that.

This right here. I don't see how that feature can add anything I'd care about.
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#54 Silenthps
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Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist or anything... but that mandatory always on kinect sounds kind of creepy and could potentially be used as an extreme invasion of privacy.
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#55 Kingpin0114
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Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist or anything... but that mandatory always on kinect sounds kind of creepy and could potentially be used as an extreme invasion of privacy. Silenthps

 

Just make sure you're not doing something freaky while the nextbox is on. :P

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#56 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

I like the Game Juggling info. Sounds pretty neat. That's the only part I liked though.

Chutebox

Really? I have never wanted to pause a game to start playing another one :|. Don't get under what circumstance you would want to do that.

This right here. I don't see how that feature can add anything I'd care about.

 

there is sooo many things you can do with muti tasking...

you never had 2 things going on your computer going at once?

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#57 k2theswiss
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Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist or anything... but that mandatory always on kinect sounds kind of creepy and could potentially be used as an extreme invasion of privacy. Silenthps
just rub your balls on it and hope someone is watching... or just duck tape it lol. Ya i don't think that will fly over well, I can see them being sold in EVERY BOX bUT not something you should be FORCED TO be plugged in
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"] Really? I have never wanted to pause a game to start playing another one :|. Don't get under what circumstance you would want to do that.k2theswiss

This right here. I don't see how that feature can add anything I'd care about.

 

there is sooo many things you can do with muti tasking...

you never had 2 things going on your computer going at once?

But pausing a game to start another one? That's what they're talking about, right? I mean, that's kinda already available on PS3 and 360 with the home buttons, but not to that extent. Why wouldn't you just save the game and quit? Gotta load the game again, but big whoop
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If all these rumours turn out to be true, Lems are going to have a miserable time on System Wars this gen. :lol:
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#60 Shewgenja
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I wonder if the system will work correctly if you point the Kinect2 at a wall or the back of your TV.

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#61 BZSIN
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This thread is severely lacking in the damage control department. Come on, don't be shy. There's got to be at least a couple of you out there to liven it up a bit.

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If all these rumours turn out to be true, Lems are going to have a miserable time on System Wars this gen. :lol:Xaero_Gravity

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkN74HJlALhjvQx1CxWga

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Where did the lems go?

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#63 Goyoshi12
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Man, a lot of Kotaku news going around.

For a fourm that has extreme distaste towards them there seems to be a lot of free publicity going for them and their site.

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'...describing the graphical leap from current-gen console gaming like going from playing Halo 2 on an original Xbox to playing Crysis on a powerful PC.'

It must be black magic :o

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With those specs no chance in hell..

True. That claim is probably a lie...or the specs...or both!!!

The 'multiple tasks running at the same time' thing sounds great, though.

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#65 Eddie-Vedder
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I think we may be looking at the near extinction of Lems :lol: Next gen 90% of these lems will buy a playstation :lol: 

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I don't think adding kinect going to change the cost of the console very much. Also with those saying that it's mandatory, it's not mandatory that they use it. It's just part of the system if they want to use it. The Wii-U has a built in camera does not make it mandatory that all games use it. Personally the only reason I will pick up the new Xbox is if Kinect has been improved on. I want more interactive games.
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#67 BigBoss255
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Laaaaame. I don't see what's funny about this even though I'm a cow. Competition is good, those rumours make the next box sound like donkey d**k. The game switching sounds interesting though but pretty pointless really.
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I don't think adding kinect going to change the cost of the console very much. Also with those saying that it's mandatory, it's not mandatory that they use it. It's just part of the system if they want to use it. The Wii-U has a built in camera does not make it mandatory that all games use it. Personally the only reason I will pick up the new Xbox is if Kinect has been improved on. I want more interactive games. HarlockJC
Yeah it does. They have probably used alot of money to improve the tech, and having it mandatory with all consoles instead of an addon makes the consoles more expensive. Which is why the console is less powerfull than the PS4 and has the cheaper and slower DDR3 RAM.
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I don't think adding kinect going to change the cost of the console very much. Also with those saying that it's mandatory, it's not mandatory that they use it. It's just part of the system if they want to use it. The Wii-U has a built in camera does not make it mandatory that all games use it. Personally the only reason I will pick up the new Xbox is if Kinect has been improved on. I want more interactive games. HarlockJC
> Kinect
> Interactive games

Pick one.

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I don't think adding kinect going to change the cost of the console very much. Also with those saying that it's mandatory, it's not mandatory that they use it. It's just part of the system if they want to use it. The Wii-U has a built in camera does not make it mandatory that all games use it. Personally the only reason I will pick up the new Xbox is if Kinect has been improved on. I want more interactive games. Martin_G_N
Yeah it does. They have probably used alot of money to improve the tech, and having it mandatory with all consoles instead of an addon makes the consoles more expensive. Which is why the console is less powerfull than the PS4 and has the cheaper and slower DDR3 RAM.

it is less powerful then the ps4? really? didn't know Sony/MS released the info...
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#71 Big_Pecks
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I so hope these rumours are real now. It can't possibly be this bad. :lol:

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#72 Shewgenja
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Well, now we know why they are using DDR3 lol!

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#73 NEWMAHAY
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Cows are talking more about the 720 than the ps4
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#74 -Patrick_92-
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This thread is severely lacking in the damage control department. Come on, don't be shy. There's got to be at least a couple of you out there to liven it up a bit.

BZSIN
I love that there is a Kinect with every system, that way the cost goes up making it look more like a worthy product if the price is higher, MS should also raise the price of Live too for the Nextbox, cause then more people see that price go up and assume it's even better than XBLG on the 360 (and it would be too, cause MS wouldn't raise the price for nothing). And with Kinect always on while I am playing my games is great, cause then MS can figure out exactly who their key demographic is and provide more rich and compelling games for me to buy. [spoiler] :P [/spoiler]
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#75 Cherokee_Jack
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There's no way both the Kinect requirement and the quoted specs are true. If they want a SKU below $400, it's one or the other.

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I don't think adding kinect going to change the cost of the console very much. Also with those saying that it's mandatory, it's not mandatory that they use it. It's just part of the system if they want to use it. The Wii-U has a built in camera does not make it mandatory that all games use it. Personally the only reason I will pick up the new Xbox is if Kinect has been improved on. I want more interactive games. Martin_G_N
Yeah it does. They have probably used alot of money to improve the tech, and having it mandatory with all consoles instead of an addon makes the consoles more expensive. Which is why the console is less powerfull than the PS4 and has the cheaper and slower DDR3 RAM.

All game systems this gen will include some kind of camera. MS is using the Kinect, Sony will have something close to the Kinect as well at launch.
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#77 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I don't think adding kinect going to change the cost of the console very much. Also with those saying that it's mandatory, it's not mandatory that they use it. It's just part of the system if they want to use it. The Wii-U has a built in camera does not make it mandatory that all games use it. Personally the only reason I will pick up the new Xbox is if Kinect has been improved on. I want more interactive games. DrTrafalgarLaw

> Kinect
> Interactive games

Pick one.

Games like Kinect sports where your body motion controls the game is more Interactive than any other console game on the market.
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I'm guessing Kinectimals 3 will be a launch title.

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#79 super600  Moderator
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The console is okay according to these rumors. I think the PS4 may have the ceepy kinect like camera thing to

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The console is okay according to these rumors. I think the PS4 may have the ceepy kinect like camera thing to

super600

playstation has always had an eyetoy, it was never a means of control for every game like MS wants to introduce.

you will shake your arms and your legs for hours on end, and you will like it damnit! Don't you dare f*cking sit down either.

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The console is okay according to these rumors. I think the PS4 may have the ceepy kinect like camera thing to

ReadingRainbow4

playstation has always had an eyetoy, it was never a means of control for every game like MS wants to introduce.

you will shake your arms and your legs for hours on end, and you will like it damnit! Don't you dare f*cking sit down either.

I read a rumor that talked about how the eyetoy may be used to sign into your account on the PS4 or something like that to recognize who the person right next to it is. It may reach kinect 2 creepy according ot what I heard;

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#82 TheEroica  Moderator
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Yay, rumours.

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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

The console is okay according to these rumors. I think the PS4 may have the ceepy kinect like camera thing to

super600

playstation has always had an eyetoy, it was never a means of control for every game like MS wants to introduce.

you will shake your arms and your legs for hours on end, and you will like it damnit! Don't you dare f*cking sit down either.

I read a rumor that talked about how the eyetoy may be used to sign into your account on the PS4 or something like that to recognize who the person right next to it is. It may reach kinect 2 creepy according ot what I heard;

I haven't seen anything on that, but that would be some weirdness.

Like scanning the retina? That would bring security to a new level.

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#84 Cherokee_Jack
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The Kinect can already recognize your face and connect it with an account. It just sucks at it, judging from Quick Looks.

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#85 Martin_G_N
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[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I don't think adding kinect going to change the cost of the console very much. Also with those saying that it's mandatory, it's not mandatory that they use it. It's just part of the system if they want to use it. The Wii-U has a built in camera does not make it mandatory that all games use it. Personally the only reason I will pick up the new Xbox is if Kinect has been improved on. I want more interactive games. HarlockJC
Yeah it does. They have probably used alot of money to improve the tech, and having it mandatory with all consoles instead of an addon makes the consoles more expensive. Which is why the console is less powerfull than the PS4 and has the cheaper and slower DDR3 RAM.

All game systems this gen will include some kind of camera. MS is using the Kinect, Sony will have something close to the Kinect as well at launch.

You mean Move? Maybe they will improve on that. That's an add-on anyways, it won't be mandatory with every PS4. Kinect is more than just a camera, and the new xbox has built in hardware ment for Kinect. But I'm wondering if lems are alright with mandatory installs now??
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

The console is okay according to these rumors. I think the PS4 may have the ceepy kinect like camera thing to

super600

playstation has always had an eyetoy, it was never a means of control for every game like MS wants to introduce.

you will shake your arms and your legs for hours on end, and you will like it damnit! Don't you dare f*cking sit down either.

I read a rumor that talked about how the eyetoy may be used to sign into your account on the PS4 or something like that to recognize who the person right next to it is. It may reach kinect 2 creepy according ot what I heard;

No, lemming.

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Most of this sounds interesting (I know, definitely the opinion of the rest of SW) but how could they fvck up something as simple as me being able to use my older contollers on the new system? Unbelievable MS, un-friggin'-believable...it's not as if they are wired and have some new connection port, that I would actually understand to a certain extent, but they are wireless; blatant milkage of consumers.
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#88 HarlockJC
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You mean Move? Maybe they will improve on that. That's an add-on anyways, it won't be mandatory with every PS4. Kinect is more than just a camera, and the new xbox has built in hardware ment for Kinect. But I'm wondering if lems are alright with mandatory installs now??Martin_G_N
First if you think I am lemm half the people on this board will point and laugh at you, I don't even own a 360 anymore. However on a side note I am talking about Sony camera. Sony has a record of coping other companies, personally I see them making their camera just as good as the kinetic.
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Not trusting superDAE at all....
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#90 Martin_G_N
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[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]You mean Move? Maybe they will improve on that. That's an add-on anyways, it won't be mandatory with every PS4. Kinect is more than just a camera, and the new xbox has built in hardware ment for Kinect. But I'm wondering if lems are alright with mandatory installs now??HarlockJC
First if you think I am lemm half the people on this board will point and laugh at you, I don't even own a 360 anymore. However on a side note I am talking about Sony camera. Sony has a record of coping other companies, personally I see them making their camera just as good as the kinetic.

That mandatory install part was not pointed at you alone, it was a question to every lems that used that against the PS3 :). I just added it. You have a point, and I'm sure Sony will improve the Move tech, and maybe even make it more Kinect-like, if it's a market for it. But right now, they are not prioritizing that.
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[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]You mean Move? Maybe they will improve on that. That's an add-on anyways, it won't be mandatory with every PS4. Kinect is more than just a camera, and the new xbox has built in hardware ment for Kinect. But I'm wondering if lems are alright with mandatory installs now??HarlockJC
First if you think I am lemm half the people on this board will point and laugh at you, I don't even own a 360 anymore. However on a side note I am talking about Sony camera. Sony has a record of coping other companies, personally I see them making their camera just as good as the kinetic.

Are you really saying sony making a better eyetoy is Sony copying M$? That's really lols dude. If anything M$ copied EyeToy.
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Now what if sony does this with their console?
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Mandatory Kinect just sounds like a ploy to make you buy another when the pos breaks.
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#94 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] Are you really saying sony making a better eyetoy is Sony copying M$? That's really lols dude. If anything M$ copied EyeToy.

No but I am saying they are going to make the eyecam closer to the kinect in functions.
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#95 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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Sony fantrolls are setting themselves up for a big fall once again. That's all i'm sayin :cool:

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Sony fantrolls are setting themselves up for a big fall once again. That's all i'm sayin :cool:

HaRmLeSS_RaGe
Or, Lemmings are in for one hell of a bashing in 9 days.
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

Sony fantrolls are setting themselves up for a big fall once again. That's all i'm sayin :cool:

clyde46

Or, Lemmings are in for one hell of a bashing in 9 days.

If it's nothing but Kinect when this all goes down, I'm guessing there won't be many lemmings for cows to do anything with.

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#99 delta3074
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]""The next-generation Xboxthe one that will follow the still-popular Xbox 360will run multiple games at once, require game installations, and will only work when a much-improved version of the popular but divisive Kinect sensor array is plugged in, according to a source who says he has access to development hardware. Those are a just a few details about the new console, codenamed Durango, that were shared with us by a person with access to next-gen information. Our source also claims to have a pair of Durango development kits."" Kinect As we reported a year ago, the new version of the Kinect motion-control sensor array will be included with every Durango sold. The unit seems far superior to the one currently found for the Xbox 360 (or the PC, for that matter). Perhaps most importantly, this isn't an optional accessory. It's mandatory. Not only does a Kinect ship with every console, but it must be plugged in and calibrated for the console to even function. This requirement is due to the way Kinect has been integrated with the Durango; because every console can be guaranteed of having the camera, developers can now program every game with the peripheral in mind. It's also because the Kinect will always be watching you. The new version of the camera is able to track up to six individual "skeletons" in the same room at all times. This has clear gameplay implications, such as allowing a game to instantly identify a person, but could also be related to a recently-patented Microsoft system for monitoring and maybe even charging users based on who is watching what. SuperDae's Kinect documentation also makes mention of automatic player identification becoming part of a gameplay experience. Storage & Installs A point of confusion during the lifetime of the Xbox 360, and one of consternation for developers, was the way in which Microsoft split the install base of the machine, selling some consoles with a hard drive and others without. This meant games could not be programmed to specifically take advantage of a hard drive installation. That divide is gone this time around, with all Durango retail consoles shipping with an HDD. That drive is 500GB in size, which should be enough for your media storage needs, but it'll mostly be used for games, which must now be installed immediately upon first insertion of the game disc. The Durango will be able to run more than one game or app at once, according to the information shared with us. If you're, say, a computer or smartphone user, this is not exactly sending-a-man-to-the-moon level of innovation. But game consoles have long been stuck just running the system-level functions (cross-game voice-chat, Achievement alerts, etc) while a single game runs. On an Xbox 360, even an app as simple as Twitter could only be used if whatever game the user was playing was shut down first. Durango, thankfully, gets past that. Controller The Durango's control pad will be a "natural evolution" of the Xbox 360's pad, according to SuperDaE's info. While this suggests a near-identical layoutnot necessarily a problem considering the cross-platform popularity of the layout with the PCXbox 360 controllers won't work with the Durango, as they use what Microsoft is calling a "new wireless technology." While various outlets, including Kotaku, have shared information on the technical specifications of Durango development kits, the specs you're about to see here are those for the final retail units that consumers will be getting their hands on. The next Xbox will run on custom hardware that includes an 8-core, 64-bit CPU running at 1.6ghz, an 800mhz DirectX 11.x graphics processor units and, alongside them, various "custom hardware blocks" that are able to handle certain individual tasks, taking the strain off the main CPU. http://kotaku.com/5982986/we-know-all-about-the-next-xbox-from-someone-who-says-theyve-got-one

Very ineresting article, don't like the part about Kinect watching me all the time though, better not be watching me whilst the console is OFF,lol
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#100 bobbetybob
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I don't think Microsoft is stupid enough to force a Kinect on everyone, maybe I'll end up eating those words but there seems to be plenty of reasons NOT to have a Kinect with every console, unless they've improve it dramatically, make it smaller, more responsive and a lot cheaper to produce. The biggest of course being that plenty of people have odd set ups, I have a desk with a TV on it and sit right in front of it like a computer, which basically means that using the current Kinect it would see my face and nothing else. Plenty of people sit on their bed to play Xbox, sit cross legged, maybe some people swing from the ceiling like Tarzan, who knows, but the point is unless it's improved it's basically going to be an expensive webcam and microphone for a lot of people. Maybe that's just what MS wants though if it's going to monitor you (creepy) 24/7.

 

But as long as the price is right though does any of that really matter? Most games will barely use it just like the "Kinect enabled" games do now.Â