KZ3 MP is the new MW2 ... Possibly Worse

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#1 W1NGMAN-
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How could GG screw up the MP of KZ3 when KZ2 was near perfection? Maybe perfection is a bit of an exaggeration but nothing major needed to be addressed in KZ2, less load times, more info displayed to a player before joining a room, easier way to party up, you know simple things that didn't involve the core game. Instead GG decided to fool around with the setup of KZ2 and managed to ruin everything that was good about KZ2 :? TSAs were a way to prevent frag campers of KZ2, now we simply have spawn campers due to the limited and poorly placed TSAs on the map! Each map seems to give one team the upper hand and due to this Warzone matches are ending more frequently with 5-2 scores or complete sweeps. Then theres "in game perks" where the rich get richer, not being able to mix n match abilities between classes, invisibility having no counter ... geez I can go on. KZ3 MP is an balanced piece of turd with better controls. Wish it was Socom 4 that released Feb 22 rather than this poor excuse of a "blockbuster title"
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#2 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"] Wish it was Socom 4 that released Feb 22 rather than this poor excuse of a "blockbuster title"

And have you seen what SOCOM looks like?
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#4 Lto_thaG
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People should really stop involving COD into f***ing everything.

We know,the game sucks.Stop whining about it every goddamn time.

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#5 DarkLink77
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Call of Duty infects just about everything. Thankfully certain franchises (Halo, Battlefield, etc) have remained true to their roots. Sorry to hear about KZ3 being a bit worse for wear due to CoD, though. I hope Guerilla fixes it for the fans.

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#6 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]How could GG screw up the MP of KZ3 when KZ2 was near perfection? Maybe perfection is a bit of an exaggeration but nothing major needed to be addressed in KZ2, less load times, more info displayed to a player before joining a room, easier way to party up, you know simple things that didn't involve the core game. Instead GG decided to fool around with the setup of KZ2 and managed to ruin everything that was good about KZ2 :? TSAs were a way to prevent frag campers of KZ2, now we simply have spawn campers due to the limited and poorly placed TSAs on the map! Each map seems to give one team the upper hand and due to this Warzone matches are ending more frequently with 5-2 scores or complete sweeps. Then theres "in game perks" where the rich get richer, not being able to mix n match abilities between classes, invisibility having no counter ... geez I can go on. KZ3 MP is an balanced piece of turd with better controls. Wish it was Socom 4 that released Feb 22 rather than this poor excuse of a "blockbuster title"

Go play KZ2.
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#7 finalstar2007
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Really now? i personally am loving Killzone 3 especially the online, much better than Killzone 2

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#8 timmy00
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Funny I loved MW2. :|

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#9 DarkLink77
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Funny I loved MW2. :|

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You best be trollin', Timmy. :P
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#10 Upparoom
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I can't say I greatly enjoyed KZ3's beta or KZ2's multiplayer in the long term. Both games have plenty of issues.

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#11 timmy00
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

Funny I loved MW2. :|

:]

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You best be trollin', Timmy. :P

Okay I didn't love it. However I did enjoy it. Though I had enough of the game when people started spamming explosives. Still I'll play the game with friends if I have to.

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Played one game of KZ3 MP the other day. Kept getting spawn camped...went back to Bulletstorm.
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#13 W1NGMAN-
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People should really stop involving COD into f***ing everything.

We know,the game sucks.Stop whining about it every goddamn time.

Lto_thaG
First off I only mentioned MW2 in the title for reference as to how crap KZ3 MP is, nothing about is in my OP Secondly this is my first thread "whinning" about KZ3 MP ... If your tired of it STOP ENTERING THESE THREADS ... :) Lastly your free to leave my thread, and ask a Mod to sticky a KZ3 Thread so you're not tempted to click on anymore :)
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Pretty much, I'm going back to the godliness that is Killzone 2.
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#15 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"] Wish it was Socom 4 that released Feb 22 rather than this poor excuse of a "blockbuster title"

And have you seen what SOCOM looks like?

Yea, graphically it looks like ass ... your point?
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#16 SaudiFury
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been really liking KZ3 MP way more then KZ2.

I have seen people trying to spawn kill, but more or less spawn campers seem to get mowed down rather quickly by the indistructible turrets near the spawn point.

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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]How could GG screw up the MP of KZ3 when KZ2 was near perfection? Maybe perfection is a bit of an exaggeration but nothing major needed to be addressed in KZ2, less load times, more info displayed to a player before joining a room, easier way to party up, you know simple things that didn't involve the core game. Instead GG decided to fool around with the setup of KZ2 and managed to ruin everything that was good about KZ2 :? TSAs were a way to prevent frag campers of KZ2, now we simply have spawn campers due to the limited and poorly placed TSAs on the map! Each map seems to give one team the upper hand and due to this Warzone matches are ending more frequently with 5-2 scores or complete sweeps. Then theres "in game perks" where the rich get richer, not being able to mix n match abilities between classes, invisibility having no counter ... geez I can go on. KZ3 MP is an balanced piece of turd with better controls. Wish it was Socom 4 that released Feb 22 rather than this poor excuse of a "blockbuster title"

Are you ok? I have been playing KZ3 all day and it's insanely addictive and the most fun I have had with an online shooter in a while and I played KZ2 a ton as well. Stop harping on stupid things and have fun.
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#18 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

People should really stop involving COD into f***ing everything.

We know,the game sucks.Stop whining about it every goddamn time.

W1NGMAN-

First off I only mentioned MW2 in the title for reference as to how crap KZ3 MP is


Point in case.You just can't create a thread without even mentioning COD and even if you don't do that,the discussion will probably revolve around COD.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"] Wish it was Socom 4 that released Feb 22 rather than this poor excuse of a "blockbuster title"W1NGMAN-
And have you seen what SOCOM looks like?

Yea, graphically it looks like ass ... your point?

Well, SOCOM is abandoning everything the previous titles were, in order to be a COD like "Blockbuster" At least that's what i got from the game-play videos.

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#20 W1NGMAN-
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Played one game of KZ3 MP the other day. Kept getting spawn camped...went back to Bulletstorm. CRUSHER88
It's like that everyday, in every other match ... SMDH!
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#21 Androvinus
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Sadly i have to agree that kz3 is not as good as kz2.
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]How could GG screw up the MP of KZ3 when KZ2 was near perfection? Maybe perfection is a bit of an exaggeration but nothing major needed to be addressed in KZ2, less load times, more info displayed to a player before joining a room, easier way to party up, you know simple things that didn't involve the core game. Instead GG decided to fool around with the setup of KZ2 and managed to ruin everything that was good about KZ2 :? TSAs were a way to prevent frag campers of KZ2, now we simply have spawn campers due to the limited and poorly placed TSAs on the map! Each map seems to give one team the upper hand and due to this Warzone matches are ending more frequently with 5-2 scores or complete sweeps. Then theres "in game perks" where the rich get richer, not being able to mix n match abilities between classes, invisibility having no counter ... geez I can go on. KZ3 MP is an balanced piece of turd with better controls. Wish it was Socom 4 that released Feb 22 rather than this poor excuse of a "blockbuster title"

I completely agree for the most part. However, that's why I play Operations. The cool cutscenes with me in them also help me stroke my e-peen. On topic, the Operations mode kind of forces people to actually accomplish tasks to win instead of just sitting there and camping. Though I do agree that KZ3 multiplayer is a far cry from KZ2 multiplayer.
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#23 W1NGMAN-
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Really now? i personally am loving Killzone 3 especially the online, much better than Killzone 2

finalstar2007
What game mode do you usually play? Operations is really fun but only 3 maps :( ... Warzone I just feel is unplayable at this point.
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#24 dkdk999
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wow man you really have a hard time differentiating between your opinion and facts don't you.
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#25 FIipMode
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And why the f*** is there already DLC coming out, and they didn't even make any new maps for Operations. GG lost their damn mind.
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#26 FIipMode
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wow man you really have a hard time differentiating between your opinion and facts don't you. dkdk999

It's better than putting a stupid IMO at the end of every post.

People need to realize most of what people say on the forums is their opinion.

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#27 BPoole96
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You already know my thoughts on it from earlier Wingman, but this game had so many poor development choices that its baffling. The only change that was made for the better is the controls. Not even the maps in this can hold a candle to the maps from KZ2. As it stands now, when Killzone 4 releases (which it will in a few years), I will not be buying it.

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Thankfully certain franchises (Halo, Battlefield, etc) have remained true to their roots.

DarkLink77

Halo: Reach has a class system...

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#29 Zaibach
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I gotta stop hanging around here, the collective ire for some games actually start ruining them for me, but thanks for your opinion bro. I'm gonna go back to kz3 3 now. I suggest you sell your copy and and stick to kz 2 instead of coming here *****ing about it

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And why the f*** is there already DLC coming out, and they didn't even make any new maps for Operations. GG lost their damn mind.FIipMode

I also read on the Killzone 3 forums that GG said additional maps for Operations is "Unlikely"

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And why the f*** is there already DLC coming out, and they didn't even make any new maps for Operations. GG lost their damn mind.FIipMode
Oh that's another thing ... this came with what 8 maps?? Soon to have 2 Map Packs already?? GG is worse than Activision!
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Word brother, it's like the whole MP team of GG left the studio. I don't know what happened, they certainly did not listen to kz2 fans blowing up their forum during the first beta (at least not enough).

Good for those of you who enjoy KZ3 though. However, I would make the bold statement for these people that if you played KZ2 with KZ3 controls, you would enjoy the MP in KZ2 more than the sequel.

8.5 is spot on.

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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] And have you seen what SOCOM looks like?GeneralShowzer

Yea, graphically it looks like ass ... your point?

Well, SOCOM is abandoning everything the previous titles were, in order to be a COD like "Blockbuster" At least that's what i got from the game-play videos.

This is true ... Zipper has me nervous about my precious Socom :?
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#34 FIipMode
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Not even the maps in this can hold a candle to the maps from KZ2.

BPoole96

http://www.1up.com/news/killzone-2-lead-level-designer

This might explain why, Brink is looking more appelaing to me now.

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#35 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]And why the f*** is there already DLC coming out, and they didn't even make any new maps for Operations. GG lost their damn mind.W1NGMAN-
Oh that's another thing ... this came with what 8 maps?? Soon to have 2 Map Packs already?? GG is worse than Activision!

Well, they tried something with KZ2, it didn't sell nearly enough. They were probably under pressure to make it more marketable, more like COD, i don't know .
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Word brother, it's like the whole MP team of GG left the studio. I don't know what happened, they certainly did not listen to kz2 fans blowing up their forum during the first beta (at least not enough).

Good for those of you who enjoy KZ3 though. However, I would make the bold statement for these people that if you played KZ2 with KZ3 controls, you would enjoy the MP in KZ2 more than the sequel.

8.5 is spot on.

RavenLoud

With all the flaws and poor decisions I've encountered from the MP, even an 8.5 is a higher. I have it at a 7/10 and most of that is because I enjoyed the campaign. Medal of Honor has better MP than KZ3...

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Every multiplayer FPS should have an invincible, cute robotic drone that goes around and pwns all the campers. :P
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#39 IppoTenma
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Yeaaahhh...I'm loving KZ3 way more than KZ2, and that's saying something. Haters gonna hate I guess.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Not even the maps in this can hold a candle to the maps from KZ2.

FIipMode

http://www.1up.com/news/killzone-2-lead-level-designer

This might explain why, Brink is looking more appelaing to me now.

Wingman was telling me about this earlier. Amazing how the absense of a single person can have such an impact on a game

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#41 arbitor365
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whining about classes being unbalanced and supposed "spawn camping" eh? sounds to me that you are looking for excuses as to why you keep getting beaten. those two things have been vastly lessened in this game compared to the last game. I calling BS on both complaints

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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] And have you seen what SOCOM looks like?GeneralShowzer

Yea, graphically it looks like ass ... your point?

Well, SOCOM is abandoning everything the previous titles were, in order to be a COD like "Blockbuster" At least that's what i got from the game-play videos.

Well there is supposed to be a classic mode that makes it more like the original but we will see
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I'm liking how the people who disagree don't say anything more than "are you serious?" "stop crying".:P

Btw chickenwing, I told Rockman how you are disliking KZ3 MP a lot and he bashed me.:( What's with all of this KZ3 defending?:P

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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]And why the f*** is there already DLC coming out, and they didn't even make any new maps for Operations. GG lost their damn mind.BPoole96

I also read on the Killzone 3 forums that GG said additional maps for Operations is "Unlikely"

That sucks, it's a great mode.D=
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#45 W1NGMAN-
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I gotta stop hanging around here, the collective ire for some games actually start ruining them for me, but thanks for your opinion bro. I'm gonna go back to kz3 3 now. I suggest you sell your copy and and stick to kz 2 instead of coming here *****ing about it

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I spent 65 day one on this game, spent months anticipating it so yea as long as there's no sticky preventing me from coming on here and *****ing about something I'm gonna continue to do so whenever I feel necessary, I'm not here to sway anyones view just curious to hear what others think about my point of view and get understanding of theirs ... by the way I put it up on craigslist while I made this thread :P
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Thankfully certain franchises (Halo, Battlefield, etc) have remained true to their roots.

Urworstnhtmare

Halo: Reach has a class system...

It's basically just the evolution of equipment, though. And you can't customize them, so it's still Halo.
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#47 FIipMode
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I'm liking how the people who disagree don't say anything more than "are you serious?" "stop crying".:Psanim02

It is disappointing when you write out clearly why the game is inferior all you get as a response is "stop crying" or "you just suck at the game".

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#48 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

I gotta stop hanging around here, the collective ire for some games actually start ruining them for me, but thanks for your opinion bro. I'm gonna go back to kz3 3 now. I suggest you sell your copy and and stick to kz 2 instead of coming here *****ing about it

W1NGMAN-

I spent 65 day one on this game, spent months anticipating it so yea as long as there's no sticky preventing me from coming on here and *****ing about something I'm gonna continue to do so whenever I feel necessary, I'm not here to sway anyones view just curious to hear what others think about my point of view and get understanding of theirs ... by the way I put it up on craigslist while I made this thread :P

Did you really?

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#49 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"]

Word brother, it's like the whole MP team of GG left the studio. I don't know what happened, they certainly did not listen to kz2 fans blowing up their forum during the first beta (at least not enough).

Good for those of you who enjoy KZ3 though. However, I would make the bold statement for these people that if you played KZ2 with KZ3 controls, you would enjoy the MP in KZ2 more than the sequel.

8.5 is spot on.

BPoole96

With all the flaws and poor decisions I've encountered from the MP, even an 8.5 is a higher. I have it at a 7/10 and most of that is because I enjoyed the campaign. Medal of Honor has better MP than KZ3...

Yea Kevin was being generous with that 8.5, 7 something sounds about right BeastPoole
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#50 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Call of Duty infects just about everything. Thankfully certain franchises (Halo, Battlefield, etc) have remained true to their roots. Sorry to hear about KZ3 being a bit worse for wear due to CoD, though. I hope Guerilla fixes it for the fans.

DarkLink77

There are some postive things created by the CoD series.. Namely perks and custom load outs.. Outside of that I will tend to agree.. Killstreaks for instance are entirely too powerful..