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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"] 1125 / 1575ShadowDeathX
30x is not too far off then, those cards sure do overclock well.
I bet I can overclock them more but Overdrive caps them at that. lol Do the math Xenos 240 GFLOPS, 7970 , 3789 GFLOPS .... 3789/240= 15.7 , and thats not including the 12x the memory and 12x the memory bandwidth.360 has DDR3 at 512 bit. You would need super clock speeds to get 128 bit DDR4 to run as fast as lower clocked higher bit memory. Would be a major bandwidth bottle neck.How so? It is 4GB of United DDR4 RAM. 128 bit seems right for the kind of GPU they are putting in that machine. btw: The GPU is not high end.
It could be a Piledriver-based Hexa or Octa core APU.
64ALU based APUs don't get released until.....next year.
ShadowDeathX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"] this basically confirms that we wont see the next xbox till 2014 and that it will boast an amd kaveri apu likely with HCF with an hd 8670 mars. 4 gigs ram.. what is this a lightweight modern gaming mahcine or a joke?
ionusX
wow hd 8670??? where did u see that?
you read between the lines a bit and basically it would be their smartest move. omitting anyhting the hd 9000 series has to offer than wont be a rebadge. the hd 8670 mars should be roughly equal to a gts 450
Or aka 7750 which is suppose to be the kaveri apu's gpu performance range.[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]360 has DDR3 at 512 bit. You would need super clock speeds to get 128 bit DDR4 to run as fast as lower clocked higher bit memory. Would be a major bandwidth bottle neck. Do you know how DDR4 works? Maybe it can send more information per clock compared to DDR3.How so? It is 4GB of United DDR4 RAM. 128 bit seems right for the kind of GPU they are putting in that machine. btw: The GPU is not high end.
It could be a Piledriver-based Hexa or Octa core APU.
64ALU based APUs don't get released until.....next year.
Truth_Hurts_U
[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]360 has DDR3 at 512 bit. You would need super clock speeds to get 128 bit DDR4 to run as fast as lower clocked higher bit memory. Would be a major bandwidth bottle neck. 360 does not have 512bit bus ..... its 128bit look at the bandwidth's 22 Gb/s average. 128 bit DDR5 can do to 72GB/s and that's at 1125mhzHow so? It is 4GB of United DDR4 RAM. 128 bit seems right for the kind of GPU they are putting in that machine. btw: The GPU is not high end.
It could be a Piledriver-based Hexa or Octa core APU.
64ALU based APUs don't get released until.....next year.
Truth_Hurts_U
Also on that site if you look further down they have the 720 set at holiday 2013, Also with a 120w TDP means it wont be a powerhouse , your looking at 3-4x the performance for processing power and 3-4x for gpu performance. Which means your looking at an equivalent of a modern quad core and a souped up AMD 6670 type of computer.04dcarraherAnd the paper points to it being 6x-8x... Which also points to it being fake.
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Also on that site if you look further down they have the 720 set at holiday 2013, Also with a 120w TDP means it wont be a powerhouse , your looking at 3-4x the performance for processing power and 3-4x for gpu performance. Which means your looking at an equivalent of a modern quad core and a souped up AMD 6670 type of computer.Truth_Hurts_UAnd the paper points to it being 6x-8x... Which also points to it being fake. How is 6-8x pointing to it being fake? on the chart its shows ~8 which means upto.
Usually I'm calling bull**** on these things, but there's just soooooooo much stuff and ALL of it seems logical and possible.
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Also on that site if you look further down they have the 720 set at holiday 2013, Also with a 120w TDP means it wont be a powerhouse , your looking at 3-4x the performance for processing power and 3-4x for gpu performance. Which means your looking at an equivalent of a modern quad core and a souped up AMD 6670 type of computer.Truth_Hurts_UAnd the paper points to it being 6x-8x... Which also points to it being fake. That and they would not make their console based on ARM tech, it doesn thave the sophystication for the power they need... yet.
[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"] It is going to use the Kaveri APU. It pretty much confirmed. The GPU points to an 64ALU which is the Kaveri intergrated GCN GPU. Kaveri also allows the CPU and GPU to have full shared memory, which the powerpoint presents. Kaveri allows the GPU a frame buffer of.....you guessed it, 128-bit wide bus. Also shown on the powerpoint. Xbox 720 will use a Hex-core Kaveri APU.Truth_Hurts_UGonna be a weak POS.
Who cares if its going to weak compared to top of the line PCs. The Next Xbox will have a ton of new services and brand new gaming experience.
Kaveri + A Dual Core ARM Processoer = Win.
[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Also on that site if you look further down they have the 720 set at holiday 2013, Also with a 120w TDP means it wont be a powerhouse , your looking at 3-4x the performance for processing power and 3-4x for gpu performance. Which means your looking at an equivalent of a modern quad core and a souped up AMD 6670 type of computer.PhazevarianceAnd the paper points to it being 6x-8x... Which also points to it being fake. That and they would not make their console based on ARM tech, it doesn thave the sophystication for the power they need... yet. It will with Kaveri. A high end Kaveri chip will be around that 6 to 7 times more powerful than the Xbox 360 Microsoft is looking for.
ARM and APU's suck. There tablet and ultra book HW.Who cares if its going to weak compared to top of the line PCs. The Next Xbox will have a ton of new services and brand new gaming experience.
ShadowDeathX
Kaveri + A Dual Core ARM Processoer = Win.
[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]ARM and APU's suck. There tablet and ultra book HW. What you want a console to have? The top of line hardware?Who cares if its going to weak compared to top of the line PCs. The Next Xbox will have a ton of new services and brand new gaming experience.
Kaveri + A Dual Core ARM Processoer = Win.Truth_Hurts_U
Ever since Nintendo has shown everyone that you don't need an uber powerful console to numba 1, you aren't going to get anymore uber powerful console.
So it looks as though the 6670 rumors were true. Wonder if this means a APU+GPU crossfire is out of the question, and they've decided to go with just a APU? Sony is rumored to be going the APU+GPU crossfire route.
It's likely to be another HD Twin matchup with nearly identical specs.
Smart Glass, 2 Kinect Sensors:
Reason the X3 won't have killer specs:
"Cloud Value Proposition 2015"
-Access to the Latest and Greatest;
-No New Hardware Required
It is weak hardware compared to modern gaming PCs but more powerful than the Wii U. Price point seems similar as well though. I'm actually happy with it. All I want is 1080p native games and a new way to play. This will deliver that. I just don't want to keep paying for Xbox LIVE. =/So is everyone happy with these specs? Underwhelmed or better than you expected? 4gb ram is **** awesome
reach3
Crap specs. 4GB RAM means nothing. Lucky to get 1080p games running at 30 FPS. Forget about 1080p 3D games. Then there going to shove kinect down your throat and still make money off every sale. I just hope Sony don't hold back and release a "true" next gen system.So is everyone happy with these specs? Underwhelmed or better than you expected? 4gb ram is **** awesome
reach3
So is everyone happy with these specs? Underwhelmed or better than you expected? 4gb ram is **** awesome
reach3
4GB RAM is excellent. Was expecting APU+GPU crossfire, but this wouldn't surprise me.
Still thinking I'll be going PC+WiiU to start next-gen. Probaby pick up the "Full-HD Twins" a few years into the gen.
[QUOTE="reach3"]Crap specs. 4GB RAM means nothing. Lucky to get 1080p games running at 30 FPS. Forget about 1080p 3D games. Then there going to shove kinect down your throat and still make money off every sale. I just hope Sony don't hold back and release a "true" next gen system.So is everyone happy with these specs? Underwhelmed or better than you expected? 4gb ram is **** awesome
Truth_Hurts_U
The very best a console could have is probably a 7870, you still won't get near top of the line pc
If the specs are true you can forget about the tech demos. Samaritan? Nope... Agni's Philosophy? Nope...The very best a console could have is probably a 7870, you still won't get near top of the line pc
neo418
[QUOTE="neo418"]If the specs are true you can forget about the tech demos. Samaritan? Nope... Agni's Philosophy? Nope... That is why they said, those engines are scalable.The very best a console could have is probably a 7870, you still won't get near top of the line pc
Truth_Hurts_U
[QUOTE="neo418"]If the specs are true you can forget about the tech demos. Samaritan? Nope... Agni's Philosophy? Nope...The very best a console could have is probably a 7870, you still won't get near top of the line pc
Truth_Hurts_U
Don't worry those will be next gen's equivalent to cysis this gen lol. Gaming pcs ftw
Yep, screw consoles any more.Don't worry those will be next gen's equivalent to cysis this gen lol. Gaming pcs ftw
neo418
[QUOTE="neo418"]Yep, screw consoles any more.Don't worry those will be next gen's equivalent to cysis this gen lol. Gaming pcs ftw
Truth_Hurts_U
I think this gen was THE gen to have a gaming pc, last gen you didn't see that many multiplat games that were xbox/ps2/pc, and most times when it went from console to pc last gen, it was a realy bad port.
Holy hell you morons, that is fake as all hell...Come on. It's fake.famicommander
Seems to hint at 6670-level power and also details Smart Glass and Win8/Phone/Xbox integration back in 2010. Shows pathway to cloud upgrades by 2015.
Even if it's fake, these are all happening in one form or another.
[QUOTE="famicommander"]Holy hell you morons, that is fake as all hell...Come on. It's fake.gamecubepad
Seems to hint at 6670-level power and also details Smart Glass and Win8/Phone/Xbox integration back in 2010. Shows pathway to cloud upgrades by 2015.
Even if it's fake, these are all happening in one form or another.
1. If I'm making a fake document I can put whatever date I want on it. 2. A lot of the rest of it is insanely vague, and many of those things weren't too hard to predict in the first place. This is absolutely fake. Any of it that ends up similar to the real thing is completely by coincidence. Nothing to see here, move along.They will launch at 299$ with Kinect and plan a 10 year cycle ?
Xbox 360 costs 299$ with Kinect LOL
Maybe they meant a 10 month cycle
1. If I'm making a fake document I can put whatever date I want on it. 2. A lot of the rest of it is insanely vague, and many of those things weren't too hard to predict in the first place. This is absolutely fake. Any of it that ends up similar to the real thing is completely by coincidence. Nothing to see here, move along.famicommander
So it's fake, but it's going to happen, but all by coincidence.
Fairly elaborate to be fake. Could be old prototype specs to present to shareholders, as opposed to nonsensical gibberish from a smart idiot with too much time trying to prove some point to fanboys that rumors can't be trusted.
The points I mentioned are happening. It's all about software and cross-platform integration for MS.
[QUOTE="famicommander"]1. If I'm making a fake document I can put whatever date I want on it. 2. A lot of the rest of it is insanely vague, and many of those things weren't too hard to predict in the first place. This is absolutely fake. Any of it that ends up similar to the real thing is completely by coincidence. Nothing to see here, move along.gamecubepad
So it's fake, but it's going to happen, but all by coincidence.
Fairly elaborate to be fake. Could be old prototype specs to present to shareholders, as opposed to nonsensical gibberish from a smart idiot with too much time trying to prove some point to fanboys that rumors can't be trusted.
The points I mentioned are happening. It's all about software and cross-platform integration for MS.
No, it's absolutely not "old prototype specs", it's freaking totally fake. This is probably a college assignment of some sort. Just stop. It's absolutely fake.[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
They will launch at 299$ with Kinect and plan a 10 year cycle ?
Xbox 360 costs 299$ with KinectLOL
Maybe they meant a 10 month cycleneo418
$300 with breaking even or slight loss vs $300 at a profit
They state in the document that they plan to maintain margin. Which also points to it being FAKE.Please Log In to post.
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