Leaked (56 page) doc on future XBOX plans? Removed by MS lawyers

[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]Okay, that could do the job, but what is the point of that? Why not just use Blu-ray?GamerwillzPS

Blu-ray now is cheaper than it was in 2006, and the speed have gone faster. The PS3 has 2x of drive speed which is the lowest, and is one of PS3's disadvantages. 12x is the fastest available now. PS4 and Xbox 720 (or whatever the name they are calling it) are expected to use 12x Blu-ray.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Blu-Ray is slower, proprietary and more expensive than DVD9, not to mention much lower adoption.

It's a gimmick.

Sony almost tanked because of Blu-Ray, because they spent money on a gimmick rather than proper hardware, that's why almost none of their games have AA.

MS spent money on an AA chip and upscaler, Sony spent money on Blu-Ray.

ZombieKiller7

Blu-ray is a gimmick? :shock:

Do some research and find out what made the PS3 so successful in terms of games, and then come back. You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

PS3 is successful?

Very.

No need for blu-ray.

None whatsoever.

It's a gimmick.

ZombieKiller7

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="Overlord93"] For any number of reasons. Cost most likely. If microsoft can avoid using blu-ray, I think it's likely they will.Overlord93

Blu-ray now is cheaper than it was in 2006, and the speed have gone faster. The PS3 has 2x of drive speed which is the lowest, and is one of PS3's disadvantages. 12x is the fastest available now. PS4 and Xbox 720 (or whatever the name they are calling it) are expected to use 12x Blu-ray.

Blu-ray is necessary, they will have to use it unless their console is going to be Kinect-oriented.

Microsoft wants to be Nintendo now, so yeah, they will be cutting the cost. :roll:

PS4 is the only console to get if you want actual games. Or PC.

[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Blu-ray now is cheaper than it was in 2006, and the speed have gone faster. The PS3 has 2x of drive speed which is the lowest, and is one of PS3's disadvantages. 12x is the fastest available now. PS4 and Xbox 720 (or whatever the name they are calling it) are expected to use 12x Blu-ray.

GamerwillzPS

Blu-ray is necessary, they will have to use it unless their console is going to be Kinect-oriented.

Microsoft wants to be Nintendo now, so yeah, they will be cutting the cost. :roll:

PS4 is the only console to get if you want actual games. Or PC.

4 GB memory and 2 multi-core CPU's? I call bogus. The bus speed woudn't handle the CPU bandwidth and you don't need a big OS for a game console so 4GB RAM is not needed either. ScreamDream

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="Overlord93"] Cheaper, but not cheapest. MS wants to keep cost down. And they will trim as many unnecessary hardware features to do so.Overlord93

Blu-ray is necessary, they will have to use it unless their console is going to be Kinect-oriented.

Microsoft wants to be Nintendo now, so yeah, they will be cutting the cost. :roll:

PS4 is the only console to get if you want actual games. Or PC.

You are wrong.

Why? Here they are:-

• Games are getting bigger in each generation because more data will be needed for better animations, graphics and physics. PS3 proved this. Almost all PS3 exclusives are using more than 10GB with some exceeded 20GB!

• Internet connections are not fit for digital distribution yet. Many households around the world are lagging behind. I remember having a dial-up connection in this house. Then moved on my first broadband which is 2Mb. 8Mb was next. And now I got 13Mb. This took about 12 years to advance. Yes, you are reading it correctly, 12 years. It's because I'm not living in a city.

[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Blu-ray is necessary, they will have to use it unless their console is going to be Kinect-oriented.

Microsoft wants to be Nintendo now, so yeah, they will be cutting the cost. :roll:

PS4 is the only console to get if you want actual games. Or PC.

GamerwillzPS

You are wrong.

Why? Here they are:-

• Games are getting bigger in each generation because more data will be needed for better animations, graphics and physics. PS3 proved this. Almost all PS3 exclusives are using more than 10GB with some exceeded 20GB!

• Internet connections are not fit for digital distribution yet. Many households around the world are lagging behind. I remember having a dial-up connection in this house. Then moved on my first broadband which is 2Mb. 8Mb was next. And now I got 13Mb. This took about 12 years to advance. Yes, you are reading it correctly, 12 years. It's because I'm not living in a city.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="Overlord93"] I've already shown blu-ray is not necesary. That was my first point. ¬_¬Overlord93

You are wrong.

Why? Here they are:-

• Games are getting bigger in each generation because more data will be needed for better animations, graphics and physics. PS3 proved this. Almost all PS3 exclusives are using more than 10GB with some exceeded 20GB!

• Internet connections are not fit for digital distribution yet. Many households around the world are lagging behind. I remember having a dial-up connection in this house. Then moved on my first broadband which is 2Mb. 8Mb was next. And now I got 13Mb. This took about 12 years to advance. Yes, you are reading it correctly, 12 years. It's because I'm not living in a city.

:|

Mmkay.

It's ben proven false, people. Check this thread.

It's just a project from a student.

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Blu-ray is a gimmick? :shock:

Do some research and find out what made the PS3 so successful in terms of games, and then come back. You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

GamerwillzPS

PS3 is successful?

Very.

It's ben proven false, people. Check this thread.

It's just a project from a student.

Lucianu

Makes sense. The idea of 2 CPUs is just stupid.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

It's ben proven false, people. Check this thread.

It's just a project from a student.

Wasdie

Makes sense. The idea of 2 CPUs is just stupid.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

PS3 is successful?

Phazevariance

Very.

Blu-ray has contributed to that.

If it wasn't for Blu-ray, those exclusives would have been different and toned down. So Blu-ray is what made the PS3 stand out in this generation.

So Blu-ray is what made the PS3 stand out in this generation.

GamerwillzPS

You know it's a sad state of affairs when a console's best point is apparently it's storage medium.

[QUOTE="ScreamDream"]4 GB memory and 2 multi-core CPU's? I call bogus. The bus speed woudn't handle the CPU bandwidth and you don't need a big OS for a game console so 4GB RAM is not needed either. ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

It's ben proven false, people. Check this thread.

It's just a project from a student.

Wasdie

Makes sense. The idea of 2 CPUs is just stupid.

well somebody should tell the internet this was just a term paper. the story,s on the front page of IGN AND Kotaku. lol. but considering those two sights im guessing noones too surprised. interesting that the article got taken down apparantly for copyright issues. hmmmmmm

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

My PC is 30x more powerful in GPU. My PC wins.

theuncharted34

Your PC has a 3-way GTX 680 SLI?

That's the only way you'd have 30x the GPU power than xbox 360.:P (A bit more, perhaps)

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

My PC is 30x more powerful in GPU. My PC wins.

RyviusARC

Your PC has a 3-way GTX 680 SLI?

That's the only way you'd have 30x the GPU power than xbox 360.:P (A bit more, perhaps)

well somebody should tell the internet this was just a term paper. the story,s on the front page of IGN AND Kotaku. lol. but considering those two sights im guessing noones too surprised. interesting that the article got taken down apparantly for copyright issues. hmmmmmm

tikki25x

[QUOTE="tikki25x"]

well somebody should tell the internet this was just a term paper. the story,s on the front page of IGN AND Kotaku. lol. but considering those two sights im guessing noones too surprised. interesting that the article got taken down apparantly for copyright issues. hmmmmmm

ShadowDeathX

Who the hell games in their living room anyway i game in my bedroom.Xboxdroolz

[QUOTE="tikki25x"]

well somebody should tell the internet this was just a term paper. the story,s on the front page of IGN AND Kotaku. lol. but considering those two sights im guessing noones too surprised. interesting that the article got taken down apparantly for copyright issues. hmmmmmm

ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="tikki25x"]

well somebody should tell the internet this was just a term paper. the story,s on the front page of IGN AND Kotaku. lol. but considering those two sights im guessing noones too surprised. interesting that the article got taken down apparantly for copyright issues. hmmmmmm

famicommander

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"] Tell me how a term paper has stuff on it that wasn't announced 2 years ago but was just announced 2 weeks ago?spiderluck

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="famicommander"] You can put whatever date you want on a fake, dude. Just because it says 2010 on it doesn't mean it wasn't made last week.tikki25x

Both the GTX 680 and 7970 are above 15x faster then the Xenos but are not 24x(unless your including all other aspects). However the 7970 also has 12x the memory and 12x the memory bandwidth, while the GTX 680 has 8x the memory and over 8x the memory bandwidth. 04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Both the GTX 680 and 7970 are above 15x faster then the Xenos but are not 24x(unless your including all other aspects). However the 7970 also has 12x the memory and 12x the memory bandwidth, while the GTX 680 has 8x the memory and over 8x the memory bandwidth. spiderluck

lol @ people acting like you cant use your pc in the living room. Who the hell games in their living room anyway i game in my bedroom.Xboxdroolz

Why would anyone that doesn't live at home with their parents have their video games in their bedroom? Doesn't make sense.:?

Updated OP.

Update: Covington and Burling LLP, Microsoft Corporation's legal counsel requested the removal of the document.

This doesn't validate the veracity, however, Occam's razor...

The only reason i ever gamed in the living room because my parents had bigger tv than me, but they'd end up kicking me out of the room because they want to watch cable tv lol.Xboxdroolz