Least innovative console manufacturer

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MonsieurX

Now that I think about it, I would say MS is the least innovative console manufacturer at the moment.

Lately Sony has released the ps vita (first hand held with 2 touch interfaces) and will release Wonder book sometime this year.

MS hasn't done anything innovative lately.

hiphop_quotable

[QUOTE="hiphop_quotable"]

Now that I think about it, I would say MS is the least innovative console manufacturer at the moment.

Lately Sony has released the ps vita (first hand held with 2 touch interfaces) and will release Wonder book sometime this year.

MS hasn't done anything innovative lately.

KC_Hokie

I forgot about smartglass, but kinect is just an improvement on an existing concept. The eyetoy.

[QUOTE="hiphop_quotable"]

Now that I think about it, I would say MS is the least innovative console manufacturer at the moment.

Lately Sony has released the ps vita (first hand held with 2 touch interfaces) and will release Wonder book sometime this year.

MS hasn't done anything innovative lately.

KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="hiphop_quotable"]

Now that I think about it, I would say MS is the least innovative console manufacturer at the moment.

Lately Sony has released the ps vita (first hand held with 2 touch interfaces) and will release Wonder book sometime this year.

MS hasn't done anything innovative lately.

hiphop_quotable

I forgot about smartglass, but kinect is just an improvement on an existing concept. The eyetoy.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="hiphop_quotable"]

Now that I think about it, I would say MS is the least innovative console manufacturer at the moment.

Lately Sony has released the ps vita (first hand held with 2 touch interfaces) and will release Wonder book sometime this year.

MS hasn't done anything innovative lately.

GamingGod999

[QUOTE="hiphop_quotable"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Kinect and Smartglass aren't innovative? GunSmith1_basic

I forgot about smartglass, but kinect is just an improvement on an existing concept. The eyetoy.

Well if you put it that way, can't we say the same thing about the ps move as well.

I think that company approached Sony too. I remember seeing a video of the guy who created the move using that camera tech. Maybe Sony wanted to use it but MS bought them out before they could. Idk

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Kinect and Smartglass aren't innovative? KC_Hokie

the difference is not that big and if it were then Move wouldn't have been as accurate as it is because its accuracy is 100% dependant on the head-tracking functionality.What Kinect does that the Eyetoy doesn't is that it recognizes different parts of the body while the Eyetoy is just head-tracking and nothing more. But the Xbox Live Vision is just a simple webcam.... lol

But yeah Kinect is innovation since improvements count as innovation too.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="GamingGod999"]

Gue1

the difference is not that big and if it were then Move wouldn't have been as accurate as it is because its accuracy is 100% dependant on the head-tracking functionality.What Kinect does that the Eyetoy doesn't is that it recognizes different parts of the body while the Eyetoy is just head-tracking and nothing more. But the Xbox Live Vision is just a simple webcam.... lol

But yeah Kinect is innovation since improvements count as innovation too.

The difference is huge. Lets not forget the voice recognition either. And no, the xbox live vision has games for it, and they're just as bad as eye toy games.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The Eyetoy was a gaming webcame like the Xbox Live Vision. Kinect is a significant leap in motion gaming. It's like comparing a 28.8K modem with broadband. RR360DD

the difference is not that big and if it were then Move wouldn't have been as accurate as it is because its accuracy is 100% dependant on the head-tracking functionality.What Kinect does that the Eyetoy doesn't is that it recognizes different parts of the body while the Eyetoy is just head-tracking and nothing more. But the Xbox Live Vision is just a simple webcam.... lol

But yeah Kinect is innovation since improvements count as innovation too.

The difference is huge. Lets not forget the voice recognition either. And no, the xbox live vision has games for it, and they're just as bad as eye toy games.

IIRC the ps eye does have voice recognition.

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

the difference is not that big and if it were then Move wouldn't have been as accurate as it is because its accuracy is 100% dependant on the head-tracking functionality.What Kinect does that the Eyetoy doesn't is that it recognizes different parts of the body while the Eyetoy is just head-tracking and nothing more. But the Xbox Live Vision is just a simple webcam.... lol

But yeah Kinect is innovation since improvements count as innovation too.

RR360DD

The difference is huge. Lets not forget the voice recognition either. And no, the xbox live vision has games for it, and they're just as bad as eye toy games.

Vision Library, [14]which can perform advanced facial recognition/analysis and CV-based head tracking, [12] and PSVR (PlayStation Voice Recognition), a speech recognitionlibrary intended to support about 20 different languages. [15] The facial technology can identify features such as eyes, mouth, eyebrows, nose, and eyeglasses; read the shape of the mouth and detect a smile; [13][fn 2] determine the position and orientation of the subject's head; and estimate the age and gender of the face. [11]

frame rates of 60 hertz at a 640×480 pixel resolution, and 120 hertz at 320×240 pixels,[1]

OmniVision Technologies on a sensor chip design using larger sensor pixels, allowing for more effective low-light operation. [9]

If the Eyetoy were a crappy webcam with head-tracking the Move wouldn't be as accurate as it is. And right now between all the motion sensing controllers like the Wii-mote plus and Kinect, the Move is the closest one to the 1:1 reaction. But mind you that none of them are 1:1.

The XBL Vision is just a crappy webcam with laggy head-tracking and like 3 games which don't even work the way they should. It's even compatible with the PS3 because is just a crappy cheap as* webcam with an Xbox logo on it.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] what innovations have sony games made exactly? uncharted isnt innovative. gow 3 isn't innovative. killzone isn't innovative. lbp isn't innovativemems_1224

Wow.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Nintendo is the only right answer. Using outdated tech and refusing to get with the times (they are just NOW getting HD! ) is inexcusable. If Nintendo was the only company around we would never be playing great games with great graphics or good online. Nintendo should just go 3rd party and stop making systems, if they don't want to adapt and move on, then let them go the way of the dinosaurs.

I don't know why people are saying Sony. They are the best in the business. They are always pushing forward with the new tech, and they determine what the standard is. Like what they did with Blu Ray, DVD is for last gen. MS can't make a system that actyally works to save their lives, ya you can talk about the slim but come on, that is still brand new. Give them another 5 years and we'll see what happens.

Plus MS only cares about nickle and diming people, they don't care about games much at all really. Hence why they stopped making new IP's.

Blabadon

Actually Nintendo copied them. Ever heard of Eye Toy?

Regardless it does not matter. Competition is based on taking ideas and improving them, and Sony does this the best. Which is why they are the best for the industry and the most innovative.

Sony took the analog from N64, and improved it by making 2. Which even to this day is STILL the industry standard. Sony used CD's, then DVD's, and finally today Blu Rays (the standard for this gen and next gen. LOL at DVD). Sony determines what the standard is each gen. Not MS and sure as hell not Nintendo.

And Sony has the best quality games, especially this gen.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Nintendo is the only right answer. Using outdated tech and refusing to get with the times (they are just NOW getting HD! ) is inexcusable. If Nintendo was the only company around we would never be playing great games with great graphics or good online. Nintendo should just go 3rd party and stop making systems, if they don't want to adapt and move on, then let them go the way of the dinosaurs.

I don't know why people are saying Sony. They are the best in the business. They are always pushing forward with the new tech, and they determine what the standard is. Like what they did with Blu Ray, DVD is for last gen. MS can't make a system that actyally works to save their lives, ya you can talk about the slim but come on, that is still brand new. Give them another 5 years and we'll see what happens.

Plus MS only cares about nickle and diming people, they don't care about games much at all really. Hence why they stopped making new IP's.

ShadowMoses900

Actually Nintendo copied them. Ever heard of Eye Toy?

Regardless it does not matter. Competition is based on taking ideas and improving them, and Sony does this the best. Which is why they are the best for the industry and the most innovative.

Sony took the analog from N64, and improved it by making 2. Which even to this day is STILL the industry standard. Sony used CD's, then DVD's, and finally today Blu Rays (the standard for this gen and next gen. LOL at DVD). Sony determines what the standard is each gen. Not MS and sure as hell not Nintendo.

And Sony has the best quality games, especially this gen.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Nintendo is the only right answer. Using outdated tech and refusing to get with the times (they are just NOW getting HD! ) is inexcusable. If Nintendo was the only company around we would never be playing great games with great graphics or good online. Nintendo should just go 3rd party and stop making systems, if they don't want to adapt and move on, then let them go the way of the dinosaurs.

I don't know why people are saying Sony. They are the best in the business. They are always pushing forward with the new tech, and they determine what the standard is. Like what they did with Blu Ray, DVD is for last gen. MS can't make a system that actyally works to save their lives, ya you can talk about the slim but come on, that is still brand new. Give them another 5 years and we'll see what happens.

Plus MS only cares about nickle and diming people, they don't care about games much at all really. Hence why they stopped making new IP's.

ShadowMoses900

Actually Nintendo copied them. Ever heard of Eye Toy?

Regardless it does not matter. Competition is based on taking ideas and improving them, and Sony does this the best. Which is why they are the best for the industry and the most innovative.

Sony took the analog from N64, and improved it by making 2. Which even to this day is STILL the industry standard. Sony used CD's, then DVD's, and finally today Blu Rays (the standard for this gen and next gen. LOL at DVD). Sony determines what the standard is each gen. Not MS and sure as hell not Nintendo.

And Sony has the best quality games, especially this gen.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Blabadon"] Why did Sony copy them with motion controls if "they're a generation ahead of Nintendo?"mems_1224

Actually Nintendo copied them. Ever heard of Eye Toy?

Regardless it does not matter. Competition is based on taking ideas and improving them, and Sony does this the best. Which is why they are the best for the industry and the most innovative.

Sony took the analog from N64, and improved it by making 2. Which even to this day is STILL the industry standard. Sony used CD's, then DVD's, and finally today Blu Rays (the standard for this gen and next gen. LOL at DVD). Sony determines what the standard is each gen. Not MS and sure as hell not Nintendo.

And Sony has the best quality games, especially this gen.

That explains why every console they've made has been the best of its generation :)

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Actually Nintendo copied them. Ever heard of Eye Toy?

Regardless it does not matter. Competition is based on taking ideas and improving them, and Sony does this the best. Which is why they are the best for the industry and the most innovative.

Sony took the analog from N64, and improved it by making 2. Which even to this day is STILL the industry standard. Sony used CD's, then DVD's, and finally today Blu Rays (the standard for this gen and next gen. LOL at DVD). Sony determines what the standard is each gen. Not MS and sure as hell not Nintendo.

And Sony has the best quality games, especially this gen.

crimsonman1245

That explains why every console they've made has been the best of its generation :)

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] actually, sony is the best at stealing ideas then implementing them in a half assed way.mems_1224

That explains why every console they've made has been the best of its generation :)

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

That explains why every console they've made has been the best of its generation :)

crimsonman1245

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

Yet it gets outpermored by most multiplats on the 360. Power is nice, but when its not being used or can't be used its useless.

Best third party? Don't think so.

Free online, but also inferior online. Weird way to look at it.

360 has rechargable battery packs.

Nope, its not cheaper. HDD? 360s that ship with a HDD are still cheaper than the PS3. Wifi? 360s have built in wifi now. PS3s controller charger is useless, way too short meaning you can't play while charging. The 360s charger cable is much longer, therefore better.

Also, the 360 has the PS3 beat in sales and has more A, AA and AAA games than the PS3 so its definitely in last place.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

That explains why every console they've made has been the best of its generation :)

crimsonman1245

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

Actually PS3 is a lot more powerful than 360. This is why it's exclusives outmatch everything on Xbox and 360 cannot match them. However in order to get this power you have to develop exclusively for PS3, which is why 360 is holding games back. If all the games were just made for PS3 only they would look and play SO much better, their graphics would so much more advanced.

The PS3 isn't more powerful, I wish the PS3 blockheads would get that into there thick skulls.

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] ps3 certainly hasn't so i dont see how thats possible.ShadowMoses900

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

Actually PS3 is a lot more powerful than 360. This is why it's exclusives outmatch everything on Xbox and 360 cannot match them. However in order to get this power you have to develop exclusively for PS3, which is why 360 is holding games back. If all the games were just made for PS3 only they would look and play SO much better, their graphics would so much more advanced.

And time and time again, people who look at the specs say they're about the same.

Cows bein' cows.....

The PS3 isn't more powerful, I wish the PS3 blockheads would get that into there thick skulls.

The PS3 isn't more powerful, I wish the PS3 blockheads would get that into there thick skulls.

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] ps3 certainly hasn't so i dont see how thats possible.RR360DD

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

Yet it gets outpermored by most multiplats on the 360. Power is nice, but when its not being used or can't be used its useless.

Most multiplats look and play the same, this is such a weak argument I don't know why Lems keep trying to use it. You cannot tell the difference between them, only in a few rare cases the PS3 get's a bad port. However this is due to bad devs and not the PS3 it's self. The PC also get's bad ports on occasion, is it the PC's fault? No it's clearly the devs. PS3 is the same way.

Best third party? Don't think so.

What do you mean? Prove otherwise.

Free online, but also inferior online. Weird way to look at it.

Only difference is cross game chat (which is free on Vita) and some updates are slower (but XBL Silver members get same fast updates as Gold). So what are you really paying for with XBL? Aside from those two things there is no differnce. The fact that XBL charges a fee and has dashboard ads makes it inferior in my eyes.

360 has rechargable battery packs.

Ok? How is this a plus? PS3 doesn't take batteries, you just plug it in and let it charge. Either way this is a petty argument, but LOL at using having to use battery packs in 2012.

Nope, its not cheaper. HDD? 360s that ship with a HDD are still cheaper than the PS3. Wifi? 360s have built in wifi now. PS3s controller charger is useless, way too short meaning you can't play while charging. The 360s charger cable is much longer, therefore better.

This whole argument is too silly and wrong to warrent a logical response. Not worth the time.

Also, the 360 has the PS3 beat in sales and has more A, AA and AAA games than the PS3 so its definitely in last place.

And? How does this affect you? So something is better because it sells more? So you love Justin Beiber because he sells so many albulms right? You must love to smoke too becasue cigarettes sell so much more right? Using your logic the Wii is better than your 36 because it sold more. Besides this is also a weak argument because the PS3 and 360 are neck and neck in sales, it's such a small difference it's not even worth trying to use as "ownage".

My responses in Bold obviously. You should try to use better arguments, like mention that XBL has a huge library of download games. Or that the updates on 360 are usually faster than PSN.

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] ps3 certainly hasn't so i dont see how thats possible.ShadowMoses900

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

Actually PS3 is a lot more powerful than 360. This is why it's exclusives outmatch everything on Xbox and 360 cannot match them. However in order to get this power you have to develop exclusively for PS3, which is why 360 is holding games back. If all the games were just made for PS3 only they would look and play SO much better, their graphics would so much more advanced.

And time and time again, people who look at the specs say they're about the same.

Cows bein' cows.....

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

TopTierHustler

Actually PS3 is a lot more powerful than 360. This is why it's exclusives outmatch everything on Xbox and 360 cannot match them. However in order to get this power you have to develop exclusively for PS3, which is why 360 is holding games back. If all the games were just made for PS3 only they would look and play SO much better, their graphics would so much more advanced.

And time and time again, people who look at the specs say they're about the same.

Cows bein' cows.....

Look at my gamertag. I have 88% of all Skyrim trophies and have done the main quest and all guilds and have over 100 hours into it. How did I manage to do that if PS3 can't handle Skyrim as you claim?

It only had some issues at launch because of lazy devs. There are bad ports on PC too, GTA4? Using your logic PC obviously cannot handle GTA4 then. See the flaw in your logic? Bad ports are due to bad devs.

And just because some people say something, doesn't make it true.

Here read this and learn from the experts:Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3: The Hardware Throwdown - IGN

I can show you my in depth power comparison between the two systems if you want to see it. It is all made up of facts and only facts. Only fanboys would deny it.

Also just look at the meat and potoatoes, if 360 was just as powerful as PS3 we would have seen it by now. But yet it has nothing to match the PS3 exclusives. 360 cannot do graphics as good as UC, KZ, God of War, The Last of Us etc...

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

That explains why every console they've made has been the best of its generation :)

crimsonman1245

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

ShadowMoses900

Yet it gets outpermored by most multiplats on the 360. Power is nice, but when its not being used or can't be used its useless.

Most multiplats look and play the same, this is such a weak argument I don't know why Lems keep trying to use it. You cannot tell the difference between them, only in a few rare cases the PS3 get's a bad port. However this is due to bad devs and not the PS3 it's self. The PC also get's bad ports on occasion, is it the PC's fault? No it's clearly the devs. PS3 is the same way.

Best third party? Don't think so.

What do you mean? Prove otherwise.

Free online, but also inferior online. Weird way to look at it.

Only difference is cross game chat (which is free on Vita) and some updates are slower (but XBL Silver members get same fast updates as Gold). So what are you really paying for with XBL? Aside from those two things there is no differnce. The fact that XBL charges a fee and has dashboard ads makes it inferior in my eyes.

360 has rechargable battery packs.

Ok? How is this a plus? PS3 doesn't take batteries, you just plug it in and let it charge. Either way this is a petty argument, but LOL at using having to use battery packs in 2012.

Nope, its not cheaper. HDD? 360s that ship with a HDD are still cheaper than the PS3. Wifi? 360s have built in wifi now. PS3s controller charger is useless, way too short meaning you can't play while charging. The 360s charger cable is much longer, therefore better.

This whole argument is too silly and wrong to warrent a logical response. Not worth the time.

Also, the 360 has the PS3 beat in sales and has more A, AA and AAA games than the PS3 so its definitely in last place.

And? How does this affect you? So something is better because it sells more? So you love Justin Beiber because he sells so many albulms right? You must love to smoke too becasue cigarettes sell so much more right? Using your logic the Wii is better than your 36 because it sold more. Besides this is also a weak argument because the PS3 and 360 are neck and neck in sales, it's such a small difference it's not even worth trying to use as "ownage".

My responses in Bold obviously. You should try to use better arguments, like mention that XBL has a huge library of download games. Or that the updates on 360 are usually faster than PSN.

They weren't my arguments, I merely shot down his.

Nope, its the majority of multiplats. I don't care if the differences are so small its unnoticable or huge, the majorty still run better on the 360 and thats fact.

Nope, thats not the only difference, then again I would expect such a weak argument from someone who hasn't used both services extensively. XBL is a much much better service. End of.

Did I say it was a plus? Both controllers have the ability to recharge. Big deal. He brought it up.

Doesn't affect me, but when determining which console is winning it certainly matters. Wii is first in sales, 360 second and PS3 LAST. :)

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] ps3 certainly hasn't so i dont see how thats possible.ShadowMoses900

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

Actually PS3 is a lot more powerful than 360. This is why it's exclusives outmatch everything on Xbox and 360 cannot match them. However in order to get this power you have to develop exclusively for PS3, which is why 360 is holding games back. If all the games were just made for PS3 only they would look and play SO much better, their graphics would so much more advanced.

Both consoles are outdated, but to be honest, i think PS3 not even as capable as the 360. SubHD rockstar games, not ram enough to run Bethesda games, worse performance in most cases...hmm

Some PS3 exclusives are indeed good looking and very polished. You should give credit to their devs for doing marvels on a console with such a bad hardware design :twisted:

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

PAL360

Actually PS3 is a lot more powerful than 360. This is why it's exclusives outmatch everything on Xbox and 360 cannot match them. However in order to get this power you have to develop exclusively for PS3, which is why 360 is holding games back. If all the games were just made for PS3 only they would look and play SO much better, their graphics would so much more advanced.

Both consoles are outdated, but to be honest, i think PS3 not even as capable as the 360. SubHD rockstar games, not ram enough to run Bethesda games, worse performance in most cases...hmm

Some PS3 exclusives are indeed good looking and very polished. You should give credit to their devs for doing marvels on a console with such a bad hardware design :twisted:

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Nintendo is the only right answer. Using outdated tech and refusing to get with the times (they are just NOW getting HD! ) is inexcusable. If Nintendo was the only company around we would never be playing great games with great graphics or good online. Nintendo should just go 3rd party and stop making systems, if they don't want to adapt and move on, then let them go the way of the dinosaurs.

I don't know why people are saying Sony. They are the best in the business. They are always pushing forward with the new tech, and they determine what the standard is. Like what they did with Blu Ray, DVD is for last gen. MS can't make a system that actyally works to save their lives, ya you can talk about the slim but come on, that is still brand new. Give them another 5 years and we'll see what happens.

Plus MS only cares about nickle and diming people, they don't care about games much at all really. Hence why they stopped making new IP's.

ShadowMoses900

Actually Nintendo copied them. Ever heard of Eye Toy?

Regardless it does not matter. Competition is based on taking ideas and improving them, and Sony does this the best. Which is why they are the best for the industry and the most innovative.

Sony took the analog from N64, and improved it by making 2. Which even to this day is STILL the industry standard. Sony used CD's, then DVD's, and finally today Blu Rays (the standard for this gen and next gen. LOL at DVD). Sony determines what the standard is each gen. Not MS and sure as hell not Nintendo.

And Sony has the best quality games, especially this gen.

lol...TCHBO

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

-Strongest console (not by much, but still)

-Blu Ray

-Best first party (Of course thats an opinon, but you can easily make the argument, certainly much better than Microsofts)

-Best third party exclusives

-Most reliable HD console

-Free online

-Rechargable controller

-Cheaper than 360 (XBL fees, HDD, Wifi, Controller charger make the 360 much more expensive)

PAL360

Actually PS3 is a lot more powerful than 360. This is why it's exclusives outmatch everything on Xbox and 360 cannot match them. However in order to get this power you have to develop exclusively for PS3, which is why 360 is holding games back. If all the games were just made for PS3 only they would look and play SO much better, their graphics would so much more advanced.

Both consoles are outdated, but to be honest, i think PS3 not even as capable as the 360. SubHD rockstar games, not ram enough to run Bethesda games, worse performance in most cases...hmm

Some PS3 exclusives are indeed good looking and very polished. You should give credit to their devs for doing marvels on a console with such a bad hardware design :twisted:

Was that an attempt at trolling from PAL360? You need practice bro.

And for RROD here is my old Xbox Gamertag. jasothebestn - Xbox Live Gamertag

So I have used both services extensively. Only difference is XBL has faster updates, and cross game chat. It also has WAY more kids on it too. Not worth paying for at all.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Actually PS3 is a lot more powerful than 360. This is why it's exclusives outmatch everything on Xbox and 360 cannot match them. However in order to get this power you have to develop exclusively for PS3, which is why 360 is holding games back. If all the games were just made for PS3 only they would look and play SO much better, their graphics would so much more advanced.

ShadowMoses900

Both consoles are outdated, but to be honest, i think PS3 not even as capable as the 360. SubHD rockstar games, not ram enough to run Bethesda games, worse performance in most cases...hmm

Some PS3 exclusives are indeed good looking and very polished. You should give credit to their devs for doing marvels on a console with such a bad hardware design :twisted:

Was that an attempt at trolling from PAL360? You need practice bro.

And for RROD here is my old Xbox Gamertag. jasothebestn - Xbox Live Gamertag

So I have used both services extensively. Only difference is XBL has faster updates, and cross game chat. It also has WAY more kids on it too. Not worth paying for at all.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Actually PS3 is a lot more powerful than 360. This is why it's exclusives outmatch everything on Xbox and 360 cannot match them. However in order to get this power you have to develop exclusively for PS3, which is why 360 is holding games back. If all the games were just made for PS3 only they would look and play SO much better, their graphics would so much more advanced.

ShadowMoses900

Both consoles are outdated, but to be honest, i think PS3 not even as capable as the 360. SubHD rockstar games, not ram enough to run Bethesda games, worse performance in most cases...hmm

Some PS3 exclusives are indeed good looking and very polished. You should give credit to their devs for doing marvels on a console with such a bad hardware design :twisted:

Was that an attempt at trolling from PAL360? You need practice bro.

And for RROD here is my old Xbox Gamertag. jasothebestn - Xbox Live Gamertag

So I have used both services extensively. Only difference is XBL has faster updates, and cross game chat. It also has WAY more kids on it too. Not worth paying for at all.

Love how you act like the unbiased guy here lol

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Both consoles are outdated, but to be honest, i think PS3 not even as capable as the 360. SubHD rockstar games, not ram enough to run Bethesda games, worse performance in most cases...hmm

Some PS3 exclusives are indeed good looking and very polished. You should give credit to their devs for doing marvels on a console with such a bad hardware design :twisted:

PAL360

Was that an attempt at trolling from PAL360? You need practice bro.

And for RROD here is my old Xbox Gamertag. jasothebestn - Xbox Live Gamertag

So I have used both services extensively. Only difference is XBL has faster updates, and cross game chat. It also has WAY more kids on it too. Not worth paying for at all.

Love how you act like the unbiased guy here lol

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Both consoles are outdated, but to be honest, i think PS3 not even as capable as the 360. SubHD rockstar games, not ram enough to run Bethesda games, worse performance in most cases...hmm

Some PS3 exclusives are indeed good looking and very polished. You should give credit to their devs for doing marvels on a console with such a bad hardware design :twisted:

PAL360

Was that an attempt at trolling from PAL360? You need practice bro.

And for RROD here is my old Xbox Gamertag. jasothebestn - Xbox Live Gamertag

So I have used both services extensively. Only difference is XBL has faster updates, and cross game chat. It also has WAY more kids on it too. Not worth paying for at all.

Love how you act like the unbiased guy here lol

When did I say I was unbiased? This is SW, everyone is biased. Especially you.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Was that an attempt at trolling from PAL360? You need practice bro.

And for RROD here is my old Xbox Gamertag. jasothebestn - Xbox Live Gamertag

So I have used both services extensively. Only difference is XBL has faster updates, and cross game chat. It also has WAY more kids on it too. Not worth paying for at all.

ShadowMoses900

Love how you act like the unbiased guy here lol

When did I say I was unbiased? This is SW, everyone is biased. Especially you.

I know im one of the most biased aswell! '360 and PS3 have the same power' See? :P

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Blabadon"] Why did Sony copy them with motion controls if "they're a generation ahead of Nintendo?"mems_1224

Actually Nintendo copied them. Ever heard of Eye Toy?

Regardless it does not matter. Competition is based on taking ideas and improving them, and Sony does this the best. Which is why they are the best for the industry and the most innovative.

Sony took the analog from N64, and improved it by making 2. Which even to this day is STILL the industry standard. Sony used CD's, then DVD's, and finally today Blu Rays (the standard for this gen and next gen. LOL at DVD). Sony determines what the standard is each gen. Not MS and sure as hell not Nintendo.

And Sony has the best quality games, especially this gen.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="hiphop_quotable"]

Now that I think about it, I would say MS is the least innovative console manufacturer at the moment.

Lately Sony has released the ps vita (first hand held with 2 touch interfaces) and will release Wonder book sometime this year.

MS hasn't done anything innovative lately.

hiphop_quotable

I forgot about smartglass, but kinect is just an improvement on an existing concept. The eyetoy.