Less than a third of hermits have 8+ GB RAM. PROOF INSIDE !

The same spot because most people dont upgrade that often...I go to lans once a month pretty large ones 150 people and up and most the people have old gpu's like nvid 400 series and 6000 series amd.

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

A measly 30% of hermits have 8+ GB RAM, but all of a sudden they act as if it's nothing?

EXPOSED !

jun_aka_pekto

I don't see the point of this. Also, That's system RAM. You do know that does not include the VRAM in video cards, right? 

Good size of RAM for gaming starts at 6GB, not 8. Besides you didn´t provide any link to the source. How do we know you are not inventing your stats.

Look at how long it is taking software companys to code for quad cores....we are on 8 core consumer cpu's now...we are in a bad economy and people dont have cash to blow like in 06. I can upgrade any time but how many people can afford it?

im using 32gb of ddr3 ram overkill yes. 

Higher than 8GB is not needed, I'm one of the 21.80%.

If I remember correctly, my PC barely used over half of my memory in games.

PS4 is using a single pool of 8GB GDDR5 of memory (weird, I know), and I think that's for the whole system including the OS and games, so it's not 8GB solely for games since some of the GBs will be used for the OS and background processes.

What's vital for PC gaming is the GPU memory, not RAM. Mine is 2GB GDDR5.

PS4 is using a single pool of 8GB GDDR5 of memory (weird, I know), and I think that's for the whole system including the OS and games, so it's not 8GB solely for games since some of the GBs will be used for the OS and background processes.

GeForce-

PCs also have OS, you know.

[QUOTE="GeForce-"]

PS4 is using a single pool of 8GB GDDR5 of memory (weird, I know), and I think that's for the whole system including the OS and games, so it's not 8GB solely for games since some of the GBs will be used for the OS and background processes.

KiZZo1

PCs also have OS, you know.

My dad can beat your dad lol....I love consumer cultures the people fight for the company when it should be the other way around.

low memory can cause the game to pause to load during gameplay  but once it's loaded up it runs fine.

developers wont even allow games to be like that on console.

[QUOTE="GeForce-"]

PS4 is using a single pool of 8GB GDDR5 of memory (weird, I know), and I think that's for the whole system including the OS and games, so it's not 8GB solely for games since some of the GBs will be used for the OS and background processes.

KiZZo1

PCs also have OS, you know.

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="GeForce-"]

PS4 is using a single pool of 8GB GDDR5 of memory (weird, I know), and I think that's for the whole system including the OS and games, so it's not 8GB solely for games since some of the GBs will be used for the OS and background processes.

nextgenjoke

PCs also have OS, you know.

Ya every PC gamer has a 7970.......lol surreeeee. Anyway once consloe guys can play at 1080 it wont matter because thats really the big diff right now between console and pc.....You can not tell me that when you max a game then draw back some of the features most the time you cant tell a diff. But once you change res thats when you can really start seeing quality diffrences.

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

PCs also have OS, you know.

nihonking

Ya every PC gamer has a 7970.......lol surreeeee. Anyway once consloe guys can play at 1080 it wont matter because thats really the big diff right now between console and pc.....You can not tell me that when you max a game then draw back some of the features most the time you can tell a diff. But once you change res thats when you can really start seeing quality diffrences.

[QUOTE="nihonking"]

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"] ps4 cpu and gpu have to share from that 8gb lol. pc with 4gb ddr3 main and 6gb gddr5 7970 own ps4 lolnextgenjoke

Ya every PC gamer has a 7970.......lol surreeeee. Anyway once consloe guys can play at 1080 it wont matter because thats really the big diff right now between console and pc.....You can not tell me that when you max a game then draw back some of the features most the time you can tell a diff. But once you change res thats when you can really start seeing quality diffrences.

two can play that game....

ps4 gddr5 > PC

Cause there's no need now for more then 4gb I upgraded to 12gb from 3gb to be ready for future games but even stuff like crysis 3 on high 1080p or battlefield 3 on ultra only uses around 1.3gb of ram when I checked. My ram usage went up a bit over 4gb when playing them but its due to windows and other application using more since I have so much extra ram now. Before it would be allocate as much ram as possible to the game and it would take a bit for my pc to get full responsiveness back as it relocates the ram back to everything else for normal desktop use. I also have 3gb of dedicated vram now vs the 1gb I had before not sure how much is being used there.  But ram isn't very expensive now and when there is a need for more in games more pc gamers will upgrade.

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"][QUOTE="nihonking"]

 

Ya every PC gamer has a 7970.......lol surreeeee. Anyway once consloe guys can play at 1080 it wont matter because thats really the big diff right now between console and pc.....You can not tell me that when you max a game then draw back some of the features most the time you can tell a diff. But once you change res thats when you can really start seeing quality diffrences.

nihonking

two can play that game....

ps4 gddr5 > PC

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="GeForce-"]

PS4 is using a single pool of 8GB GDDR5 of memory (weird, I know), and I think that's for the whole system including the OS and games, so it's not 8GB solely for games since some of the GBs will be used for the OS and background processes.

nextgenjoke

PCs also have OS, you know.

Fortunately, Steam also has stats on VRAM, so you can get owned on that account too:

Where's those 6 GB, seems that even less than 30% have it :lol:

 "virtual" memory, which behaves like directly and contiguous addressable read/write memory with the harddrive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

PCs also have OS, you know.

KiZZo1

Fortunately, Steam also has stats on VRAM, so you can get owned on that account too:

Where's those 6 GB, seems that even less than 30% have it :lol:

those charts are irrellavant a good 1gig gpu will perform better than the ps4...ram is a non issue and has been for years...Its cheap for a reason.

lol you could run crysis 3 with 512 mb ram system ram  on pc  it would just be studdering like hell but once you walked around the area and loads up run better 

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

PCs also have OS, you know.

KiZZo1

Fortunately, Steam also has stats on VRAM, so you can get owned on that account too:

Where's those 6 GB, seems that even less than 30% have it :lol:

I've had 24 gigs for a while now and I'm not even a hermit.

Wiimotefan

 "virtual" memory, which behaves like directly and contiguous addressable read/write memory with the harddrive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory

nextgenjoke

And are you claiming memory is what makes PC better than ps4 lol....thats silly...its the high end cpu's and gpu's memory convos need to die.

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

 "virtual" memory, which behaves like directly and contiguous addressable read/write memory with the harddrive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory

nihonking

And are you claiming memory is what makes PC better than ps4 lol....thats silly...its the high end cpu's and gpu's memory convos need to die.

pc you can still run it but with studdering.

[QUOTE="nihonking"]

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

 "virtual" memory, which behaves like directly and contiguous addressable read/write memory with the harddrive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory

nextgenjoke

And are you claiming memory is what makes PC better than ps4 lol....thats silly...its the high end cpu's and gpu's memory convos need to die.

You seem to like memory allot lol

1. It's optional (which is a good thing, you can get as much RAM as you need).
2. RAM isn't everything.
3. 4gb is enough to play a lot of games on max given that you've got a good GPU/CPU set up.

trugs26

Exactly why tessellation wouldn't work  on a next gen console.

LOLOLOL RAM is the new Cell :lol: Oh man, Im loving this :PII_Seraphim_II

Lol, RAM is the new cell. And like this gen, it'll turn out to mean exactly jack $hit in the end.

 

The PS4 will struggle to keep up with the xbox, and both will be outdated a year after release conpared to PC.

 

 

 

Kinthalis

[QUOTE="GeForce-"]

PS4 is using a single pool of 8GB GDDR5 of memory (weird, I know), and I think that's for the whole system including the OS and games, so it's not 8GB solely for games since some of the GBs will be used for the OS and background processes.

KiZZo1

PCs also have OS, you know.

Cows DO know that the successor to GDDR5 is hitting PC's next year and has been in spec development for a while right?

Right? Guys?

Yea, I don't throw money down the toilet and upgrade everything every 18 months to keep up-to-date. I only upgrade once a gen. (I don't actually upgrade, just get a new computer)

It's not like devs target non-existent hardware, so why bother 'til the next gen is up and running?

Fortunately, Steam also has stats on VRAM, so you can get owned on that account too:

Where's those 6 GB, seems that even less than 30% have it :lol:

KiZZo1

Well, that is unexpected... I expected more VRAM than 1GB from PC gamers. :?

Although, there are non-PC gamers using Steam solely for messaging. freedomfreak is one of them. I think that kind of messed up the statistics.

Didn't you get the memo? RAM only mattered last gen.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Lol, RAM is the new cell. And like this gen, it'll turn out to mean exactly jack $hit in the end.

 

The PS4 will struggle to keep up with the xbox, and both will be outdated a year after release conpared to PC.

 

 

 

tormentos

The xbox had 3 cores when we still had Pentium Ds and the first Duo Cores, in whic hthe latter STILL outperformed the xbox 360

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="GeForce-"]

PS4 is using a single pool of 8GB GDDR5 of memory (weird, I know), and I think that's for the whole system including the OS and games, so it's not 8GB solely for games since some of the GBs will be used for the OS and background processes.

faizan_faizan

PCs also have OS, you know.

Regardless ... add the average amount of GPU memory to the quantities in the OP, and it's still way below 8 GB, with the added deficiency that it's fixed.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

PCs also have OS, you know.

KiZZo1

Regardless ... add the average amount of GPU memory to the quantities in the OP, and it's still way below 8 GB, with the added deficiency that it's fixed.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

PCs also have OS, you know.

KiZZo1

Regardless ... add the average amount of GPU memory to the quantities in the OP, and it's still way below 8 GB, with the added deficiency that it's fixed.

A measly 30% of hermits have 8+ GB RAM, but all of a sudden they act as if it's nothing?

 

EXPOSED !

KiZZo1

I think you are forgetting to add the graphic card ram to your 'equation' peasant.

Well, that is unexpected... I expected more VRAM than 1GB from PC gamers. :?

GeForce-

Well, you can transfer to GPU memory from RAM. But ... then you'll have doubling of the data in both memories, which is why just adding both memories does not properly represent the RAM storage capacity. And also why PS3 256 MB + 256 MB is inferior to 360's 512 MB.

Although, there are non-PC gamers using Steam solely for messaging. freedomfreak is one of them. I think that kind of messed up the statistics.

GeForce-

Sure thing. I'm waiting you to bring forth the same point when a new record is set for the concurrent number of users on Steam.

LOL my PC has 4GB of ram and 1 GB of graphic card ram and it's only one of those dirt cheap off the shelf super market PCs.

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

A measly 30% of hermits have 8+ GB RAM, but all of a sudden they act as if it's nothing?

 

EXPOSED !

tenaka2

I think you are forgetting to add the graphic card ram to your 'equation' peasant.

herms EXPOSED!

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

I've had 24 gigs for a while now and I'm not even a hermit.

Eddie-Vedder

Didn't you get the memo? RAM only mattered last gen.

Pray_to_me

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Lol, RAM is the new cell. And like this gen, it'll turn out to mean exactly jack $hit in the end.

 

The PS4 will struggle to keep up with the xbox, and both will be outdated a year after release conpared to PC.

 

 

 

tormentos

^ the definition of trolling

The Cell had more Cores and Threads than £1000+ PC's of the time aswell you muppet, it means jack s***.

The xbox had 3 cores when we still had Pentium Ds and the first Duo Cores, in whic hthe latter STILL outperformed the xbox 360

MBirdy88