Less than a third of hermits have 8+ GB RAM. PROOF INSIDE !

Stop comparing DDR3 with GDDR5. 


No PC gaming rig has 8GB's of GDDR5.  SLI/Crossfire setups don't take advantage of both GPU's ram count. If you have two 4GB GPU's in SLI you are still stuck with 4GB's of VRAM. 

Now, the PS4 has 8GB's of unified GDDR5 ram, so it is shared with the CPU/GPU/OS. Though the OS will likely only take 1GB max.  

emgesp

Gfx would be same whether it had 4GB or 8GB, the GPU core clock, # of shader proc, and memory speed mean more than amount of RAM. The extra RAM was added for non-gaming purposes, the same reason MS has 8GB in X3.

SLI/Xfire setups have massive amounts of shader processors and 384-bit GDDR5 RAM. PS4 can still be crushed with 2yr-old PC hardware.

We have to understand that only about 2% of the worlds gamers are on this site spewing s^&*t..AND most here TRY to make the next group feel inferior in some way or another..REAL gamers dont..It dont matter what consoles come up with, for hermits its always going to be 10 year ago tech.

Okay?

I am one of those people with 8GB of RAM.

Why are you using a game from pre-PS4? What about the games on made for PS4 that push the system to it's limits? I don't see a PS4 game reaching 1600p unless it's not pushing the system, not to mention the VRAM usage will be a lot worse.

BTW I'm sure that benchmark is for single player because I own the game, put over 60 hours into it and knows that the multiplayer is more demanding so it'll certainly struggle with multiplayer with 64 players. Heck single player uses less VRAM as well.

mitu123

And there's not a single consolite with a console that has more than 2gb ram :lol:

[QUOTE="mitu123"]Why are you using a game from pre-PS4? What about the games on made for PS4 that push the system to it's limits? I don't see a PS4 game reaching 1600p unlessit's not pushing the system, not to mention the VRAM usage will be a lot worse.

BTW I'm sure that benchmark is for single player because I own the game, put over 60 hours into it and knows that the multiplayer is more demanding so it'll certainly struggle with multiplayer with 64 players. Heck single player uses less VRAM as well.

tormentos

The reason it's going for 1080p at 30FPS is because it's the perfect balance between performance and graphics.

And there's not a single consolite with a console that has more than 2gb ram :lol:

anshul89

and yet they still pump out fantastic visuals..humm..this is why we in the tech world preach that consoles are developed to utilize their hardware more so then a pc for gaming..when its main focus is gaming it dont take as much power..eh,...go figure..

[QUOTE="mitu123"]Why are you using a game from pre-PS4? What about the games on made for PS4 that push the system to it's limits? I don't see a PS4 game reaching 1600p unlessit's not pushing the system, not to mention the VRAM usage will be a lot worse.

BTW I'm sure that benchmark is for single player because I own the game, put over 60 hours into it and knows that the multiplayer is more demanding so it'll certainly struggle with multiplayer with 64 players. Heck single player uses less VRAM as well.

tormentos

  Yet Killzone 4 was onlly at a locked 30fps.

No, it doesn't, but it's not a good indicator for next gen games made for PS4 along with next gen PC games requiring better hardware. 1600p on PS4 would be difficult for something like BF4 even(unless they made it look like last gen versions).

The reason it's going for 1080p at 30FPS is because it's the perfect balance between performance and graphics.

mitu123

It is nothing. I have 32 gigs of ram and I got it dirt cheap.

It is nothing. I have 32 gigs of ram and I got it dirt cheap.

heretrix

*no longer feels proud of 12GB RAM....* sigh

8GB on my Laptop and 16GB on my Desktop. So...yea. And you can max any game out there with 4GB so...

[QUOTE="mitu123"] No, it doesn't, but it's not a good indicator for next gen games made for PS4 along with next gen PC games requiring better hardware. 1600p on PS4 would be difficult for something like BF4 even(unless they made it look like last gen versions).

The reason it's going for 1080p at 30FPS is because it's the perfect balance between performance and graphics.

tormentos

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

It is nothing. I have 32 gigs of ram and I got it dirt cheap.

_Matt_

*no longer feels proud of 12GB RAM....* sigh

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

It is nothing. I have 32 gigs of ram and I got it dirt cheap.

heretrix

*no longer feels proud of 12GB RAM....* sigh

Wow, although how did 48GB go down to 32GB? Motherboard not support more than 32GB?

Also less than a third play at 1080p. >.>

[QUOTE="emgesp"]

Stop comparing DDR3 with GDDR5. 


No PC gaming rig has 8GB's of GDDR5.  SLI/Crossfire setups don't take advantage of both GPU's ram count. If you have two 4GB GPU's in SLI you are still stuck with 4GB's of VRAM. 

Now, the PS4 has 8GB's of unified GDDR5 ram, so it is shared with the CPU/GPU/OS. Though the OS will likely only take 1GB max.  

gamecubepad

Gfx would be same whether it had 4GB or 8GB, the GPU core clock, # of shader proc, and memory speed mean more than amount of RAM. The extra RAM was added for non-gaming purposes, the same reason MS has 8GB in X3.

SLI/Xfire setups have massive amounts of shader processors and 384-bit GDDR5 RAM. PS4 can still be crushed with 2yr-old PC hardware.

You know that ram is DDR3 ram not GDDR5? You can't buy GDDR5 ram by itself.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="mitu123"] No, it doesn't, but it's not a good indicator for next gen games made for PS4 along with next gen PC games requiring better hardware. 1600p on PS4 would be difficult for something like BF4 even(unless they made it look like last gen versions).

The reason it's going for 1080p at 30FPS is because it's the perfect balance between performance and graphics.

mitu123

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="mitu123"]Why are you using a game from pre-PS4? What about the games on made for PS4 that push the system to it's limits? I don't see a PS4 game reaching 1600p unlessit's not pushing the system, not to mention the VRAM usage will be a lot worse.

BTW I'm sure that benchmark is for single player because I own the game, put over 60 hours into it and knows that the multiplayer is more demanding so it'll certainly struggle with multiplayer with 64 players. Heck single player uses less VRAM as well.

sSubZerOo

  Yet Killzone 4 was onlly at a locked 30fps.

lol people are funny. That was a presentation video. Uncharted 3 had a presentation vid running at 60fps and it turns out to be 30. no one knows how KZ SF will run on PS4. But looking at how it never drop to 29fps no matter what happens on screen tells me PS4 can run it at 60fps in sleep mode xD

Its all up to the developers. Nothing wrong with 30fps, everyone will play online the same, no advantages.

  Yet Killzone 4 was onlly at a locked 30fps.

sSubZerOo

Wait so because Killzone is targeting 1080p 30FPS that mean all PS3 games = 1080p 30FPS.? Dude is a launch game compare Resistance 1 to Killzone Uncharted 3 if it wasn't because both games are PS3 games,you would not know they are from the same console. So the PS4 has a GPU stronger than the 7850 but some how can't use it over 1080p 30FPS,that is sad in fact horribly sad because if the PS4 was actually targeting 1600p,it would achieve better frames than the 7850 thanks to efficiency and having the CPU and GPU on the same die as well as more ram.tormentos

So around 15-20 million STEAM Users hae 8GB of Ram not including non-steam PC gamers. You realize nothing really uses over 4gb outside of a couple games right? Hell even laptops come with 4gb-8gb ram as of late and years ago. This isn't suprising. 

Many Steam users are simply CSS players. CSS is a game from 2004.

OP forgot about vram. Average gpu on steam has 1gb.

Crysis 3 for example uses about 1gb of system ram and about 2gb vram at max settings 1080p.

The PS4 will not reserve more than 1GB for the OS. The added ram was for game development. emgesp

A 7850 can't utilize 8GB of GDDR5. It's constrained by it's 1280 shader procs. Only a single game shows performance benefits on the 7850 between 1GB and 2GB versions. There is no practical gain with adding an additional 4GB GDDR5 to a card that's already using ~3GB.

It's going to be for features like MS is pushing. DVR, multiple services or games running simulataneously.

Don't forget most of them run at low to medium settings, and tends to post screen shots that were rendered by someone else's $3000 machine. PS4 already own most gaming PCs already.

[QUOTE="emgesp"]The PS4 will not reserve more than 1GB for the OS. The added ram was for game development. gamecubepad

A 7850 can't utilize 8GB of GDDR5. It's constrained by it's 1280 shader procs. Only a single game shows performance benefits on the 7850 between 1GB and 2GB versions. There is no practical gain with adding an additional 4GB GDDR5 to a card that's already using ~3GB.

It's going to be for features like MS is pushing. DVR, multiple services or games running simulataneously.

  I reckon its only going to use 2gb.. Which is still huge for a console.. I just wish people would get their heads out of their asses in hyping its going to amazing.. When based on past track record of Sony there is no guarentee of that what so ever.. I hope all the consoles are great, because in the end the consumer wins.. This fanboyism in which they want other competitiors to fail really illustrates that they would like nothing better then having their company in a monopoly in which they can bend over to get what ever the said company wants.

If you play on single monitor and not go higher than 1600p through custom res it'll work.

However I used 3360x2100 for that and I bet multi-monitors are even worse of course.

mitu123

I see. Yeah I don't plan on going much higher soon. I will in the future though, I would like a wider screen, but am not a fan of a multiple display setup. I know the bezels in between screens would bother me. I would much rather have one ultrawide screen.

[QUOTE="emgesp"]

Stop comparing DDR3 with GDDR5.


No PC gaming rig has 8GB's of GDDR5. SLI/Crossfire setups don't take advantage of both GPU's ram count. If you have two 4GB GPU's in SLI you are still stuck with 4GB's of VRAM.

Now, the PS4 has 8GB's of unified GDDR5 ram, so it is shared with the CPU/GPU/OS. Though the OS will likely only take 1GB max, so you will have 7GB's of GDDR5 dedicated to game development. Also, PC games right now are not made with 7GB's of GDDR5 ram in mind.

Truth_Hurts_U

Here's the thing... SLI and CF use that RAM to run 2 GPUs at 1 time and they both render their on part of the image. So to say that you get no benefit out of that VRAM is wrong.

That's like saying you only really need 2GB VRAM to run 2 GTX 680's. Which is false.

Na, every hermit in the world can run any game on max setting no problem.

Clock-w0rk

i got 12gb, im in the elites!!!

i got 12gb, im in the elites!!!

telefanatic

[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

i got 12gb, im in the elites!!!

Sushiglutton

Yeah DDR3 is so outdated. GDDR5 is all the rage now.

Put some GDDR5 in your motherboard bro, eventhough it won't accept it.

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

And there's not a single consolite with a console that has more than 2gb ram :lol:

VanDammFan

and yet they still pump out fantastic visuals..humm..this is why we in the tech world preach that consoles are developed to utilize their hardware more so then a pc for gaming..when its main focus is gaming it dont take as much power..eh,...go figure..

Don't forget most of them run at low to medium settings, and tends to post screen shots that were rendered by someone else's $3000 machine. PS4 already own most gaming PCs already.

Mr_BillGates

Don't forget most of them run at low to medium settings, and tends to post screen shots that were rendered by someone else's $3000 machine. PS4 already own most gaming PCs already.

Mr_BillGates

Don't forget most of them run at low to medium settings, and tends to post screen shots that were rendered by someone else's $3000 machine. PS4 already own most gaming PCs already.

Mr_BillGates

everyone should having a gaming pc and consoles because of that.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

*no longer feels proud of 12GB RAM....* sigh

_Matt_

Wow, although how did 48GB go down to 32GB? Motherboard not support more than 32GB?

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

And there's not a single consolite with a console that has more than 2gb ram :lol:

PurpleMan5000

and yet they still pump out fantastic visuals..humm..this is why we in the tech world preach that consoles are developed to utilize their hardware more so then a pc for gaming..when its main focus is gaming it dont take as much power..eh,...go figure..

OH so you telling me what "I" think looks good is wrong?SOrry bro..I have my own opinions on that one..and yes consoles use hardware differently than pcs..eh,..this s^&t never ends..

I've got 16 Gigs of RAM. 

You idiots would have to duck tape together 4 PS4's to come close to the performance of my rig.

Come at me consolites!

I've got 16 Gigs of RAM. 

 

You idiots would have to duck tape together 4 PS4's to come close to the performance of my rig.

 

Come at consolites!

Kinthalis