Less than a third of hermits have 8+ GB RAM. PROOF INSIDE !

Truth hurts doesn't it. You asshats all claim to have these $2000 rigs that run every game on maxed out settings and then you all add your dad's man juice to run it is Go Go Gadget mode. Every Hermit I have ever met ends up with rig hardly better than my Alienware laptop. Never fails.timbers_WSU

My system is 100% real.

Come at me BRO!

Oh, look I own these meh systems too.

I wonder what those percentages would be if you added video ram too? Since PCs have both DDR3 system RAM and GDDR5 for Video Memory and that list only counts system memory. Either way 1-124 GB of ram ( more if you include video memory ) on the PC is available now, the PS4 is not, and by the time it is available, the PS4 will be even more out dated by PCs.

oh sh*t, we got people posting their rigs to shutdown the naysayers, I'm so glad sony announced the ps4, this place has been ever so much lively 

[QUOTE="clyde46"] And this ladies and gentlemen is what we call the 1%'ers of PC gamers everywhere.lowe0

lol off you go again. Its not compare the word is 'Judge'.

I guess you are one of the peasants that advocates the removal of PCs from system wars.

oh sh*t, we got people posting their rigs to shutdown the naysayers, I'm so glad sony announced the ps4, this place has been ever so much lively

Chris_Williams

:lol:

Yeah, feels nice. Was getting so old the last 3 years.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"] And this ladies and gentlemen is what we call the 1%'ers of PC gamers everywhere.tenaka2

lol off you go again. Its not compare the word is 'Judge'.

I guess you are one of the peasants that advocates the removal of PCs from system wars.

Not every PC gamer is on steam or took part in that survey you know...

Cows are petty silent about their amazing CPU.Under_Armour

Their GDDR5 will reduce workload from the CPU. That's how amazing that GDDR5 is :shock:

[QUOTE="tormentos"] I already prove how on Skyrim 1GB of ram less on 2 different 7850 actually deliver a bigger blow to performance,than the hit the 7850 get for been under power vs card like the 7970.. Skyrim 1920x1200. 7850 1GB 50FPS. 7850 2GB 83FPS. Difference 33FPS more on the 2GB version of the same card. _Matt_

Can I have a link for this? I don't believe you here. Unless this was tested on a monitor setup of way more than 1920x1080, the extra video memory would make absolutely minimal difference.

.. The majority of gamers out there only need 4 to 6 gb's of ram.. I have 8gb's my self and that is overkill right now. I don't think I have ever seen the usage go above 5gbs.. sSubZerOo

How much does Crysis 3 maxed out use?

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"].. The majority of gamers out there only need 4 to 6 gb's of ram.. I have 8gb's my self and that is overkill right now. I don't think I have ever seen the usage go above 5gbs.. R4gn4r0k

How much does Crysis 3 maxed out use?

A measly 30% of hermits have 8+ GB RAM, but all of a sudden they act as if it's nothing?

EXPOSED !

KiZZo1

I think this once again exposes the contradictory nature of the hardcore PS gamers. They never seem to understand that they are NOT the majority of any "group". Most people don't care about PCs as much as them or even know as much as them. Most people don't enjoy thinking about hardware or maximizing settings, etc.

The reality is that most people have PCs in their home but they are primarily used for e-mail, internet and basic word processing. So when PC users try to use PC sales and pervasiveness to brag about their supriority, they are already missing the point. Which explains to me why they are so confused that console gaming gets so much attention. They don't get that people will buy a PC for countless reasons, many of which have nothing to do with games. But when people buy a console, you know they will be using it for playing games (majority of the time - case could be made for BR/netflix when PS3 launched as it was half the price of other BR players at the time).

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"].. The majority of gamers out there only need 4 to 6 gb's of ram.. I have 8gb's my self and that is overkill right now. I don't think I have ever seen the usage go above 5gbs.. R4gn4r0k

How much does Crysis 3 maxed out use?

  I can't speak for Crysis 3 but for Crysis 2 and Crysis 1.. Not much..  The higher the settings you go isn't a drain on the ram.. Its a drain on the video card and their memory..   And I wouldn't think Crysis 3 to change that much, I think something like Total War Shogun 2 uses way more ram.. 

I'm guessing over 3GB.

mitu123

You mean GDDR or DDR ?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I'm guessing over 3GB.

R4gn4r0k

You mean GDDR or DDR ?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I'm guessing over 3GB.

R4gn4r0k

You mean GDDR or DDR ?

:|  GDDR is ram on the video card.. DDR is general system ram.. Which one are you asking?

trolling because:

• you pretend that the ps4 have 8Gb dedicate to the GPU, the truth is that it is going to use 5-4Gb max for vram purposes
• you make it sound like a $1000(titan) is inferior to the ps4
• you ignore that the HD7970/6GB(much cheaper than titan) exist and also offer same vram as titan
• you ignore that the HD7970/6GB have more Vram than ps4 gpu, you ignore that it have almost 2 times faster vram than ps4 gpu.
• you try to pass, that you get more performance by doubling that vram instead of doubling that processing power with cheap tricks

There is nothing more to argue with you, simply because you are trolling.

MK-Professor

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]trolling because:

• you pretend that the ps4 have 8Gb dedicate to the GPU, the truth is that it is going to use 5-4Gb max for vram purposes
• you make it sound like a $1000(titan) is inferior to the ps4
• you ignore that the HD7970/6GB(much cheaper than titan) exist and also offer same vram as titan
• you ignore that the HD7970/6GB have more Vram than ps4 gpu, you ignore that it have almost 2 times faster vram than ps4 gpu.
• you try to pass, that you get more performance by doubling that vram instead of doubling that processing power with cheap tricks

There is nothing more to argue with you, simply because you are trolling.

tormentos

A resolution at which console gamers can't even play on.. Thats higher than 1080p, something Killzone 4 was only able to have a locked 30fps at.. 

That's DDR, GDDR wise I've seen 3.8GB.XD

mitu123

Wow that's a lot. I thought the 3GB on my graphics card would suffice for a while :P

Yeah a lot of DDR isn't really needed for games. There are other PC uses where it is needed.

:|  GDDR is ram on the video card.. DDR is general system ram.. Which one are you asking?

sSubZerOo

I was asking him if he was talking about GDDR or DDR, what's wrong with asking that ? :?

And? One person out of how many So you overpaid just to play games a $79 used 360 can play. That is your own dumbass fault. "Come at me bro?" We will talk again when you are not talking like a 10 year old wannabe gangster with down syndrome......K?timbers_WSU

Is that the best you can do bro? U is mad. :lol:

I just wanna be hip and cool just like you and your console friends. Whats wrong with that?

You enjoy your POS consoles and I'll enjoy my luxury PC that makes you QQ in your sleep at night.

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] And? One person out of how many So you overpaid just to play games a $79 used 360 can play. That is your own dumbass fault. "Come at me bro?" We will talk again when you are not talking like a 10 year old wannabe gangster with down syndrome......K?Truth_Hurts_U

Is that the best you can do bro? U is mad. :lol:

I just wanna be hip and cool just like you and your console friends. Whats wrong with that?

You enjoy your POS consoles and I'll enjoy my luxury PC that makes you QQ in your sleep at night.

If your PC is what you consider luxury then you are more pathetic than I originally gave you credit for. Go outside and quit being an embarrassment to your parents. timbers_WSU

How about you get a job, so you can afford a new console and not a hand me down. :lol:

This is fun!

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That's DDR, GDDR wise I've seen 3.8GB.XD

R4gn4r0k

Wow that's a lot. I thought the 3GB on my graphics card would suffice for a while :P

Yeah a lot of DDR isn't really needed for games. There are other PC uses where it is needed.

However I used 3360x2100 for that and I bet multi-monitors are even worse of course.

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

How about you get a job, so you can afford a new console and not a hand me down. :lol:

This is fun!

Truth_Hurts_U

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] If your PC is what you consider luxury then you are more pathetic than I originally gave you credit for. Go outside and quit being an embarrassment to your parents. Truth_Hurts_U

How about you get a job, so you can afford a new console and not a hand me down. :lol:

This is fun!

A resolution at which console gamers can't even play on.. Thats higher than 1080p, something Killzone 4 was only able to have a locked 30fps at.. sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] I already prove how on Skyrim 1GB of ram less on 2 different 7850 actually deliver a bigger blow to performance,than the hit the 7850 get for been under power vs card like the 7970.. Skyrim 1920x1200. 7850 1GB 50FPS. 7850 2GB 83FPS. Difference 33FPS more on the 2GB version of the same card. tormentos

Can I have a link for this? I don't believe you here. Unless this was tested on a monitor setup of way more than 1920x1080, the extra video memory would make absolutely minimal difference.

Seems pretty inconclusive to me. So for a single open world console port game out of those tested, at a resolution ABOVE what next gen consoles will run at, 2GB cards did better than 1GB cards. My point still for the majority stands, that unless stupidly high resolution, extra video memory does almost nothing. And I can bet if you did the same test between a 2GB card and a 3GB card, there would be 0 difference even in Skyrim at 1200p

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] [QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] If your PC is what you consider luxury then you are more pathetic than I originally gave you credit for. Go outside and quit being an embarrassment to your parents. timbers_WSU

How about you get a job, so you can afford a new console and not a hand me down. :lol:

This is fun!

U so mad... Even your post is loosing it.

If your life was so good you wouldn't be on here giving PC guys grief.

Seems pretty inconclusive to me. So for a single open world console port game out of those tested, at a resolution ABOVE what next gen consoles will run at, 2GB cards did better than 1GB cards. My point still for the majority stands, that unless stupidly high resolution, extra video memory does almost nothing. And I can bet if you did the same test between a 2GB card and a 3GB card, there would be 0 difference even in Skyrim at 1200p_Matt_

Hell the 7850 can display 2560x1600 which way higher than 1920x1200..tormentos

[QUOTE="tormentos"]Hell the 7850 can display 2560x1600 which way higher than 1920x1200..mitu123

It's great both systems have a lot of RAM, but what really matters is the amount of shader processors. PS4 is about a 7850. From what I could see on steam survey ~25% have cards equal or greater than a 7850, so PS4 will be a competitive system with the average rig for at least 2yrs.

Largely, that's how it was with 360 until 2007 when Crysis dropped and consoles never matched it. Even next-gen consoles might have trouble running it maxed with an array of mods on. 

It's great both systems have a lot of RAM, but what really matters is the amount of shader processors. PS4 is about a 7850. From what I could see on steam survey ~25% have cards equal or greater than a 7850, so PS4 will be a competitive system with the average rig for at least 2yrs.

Largely, that's how it was with 360 until 2007 when Crysis dropped and consoles never matched it. Even next-gen consoles might have trouble running it maxed with an array of mods on. 

gamecubepad

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]Hell the 7850 can display 2560x1600 which way higher than 1920x1200..tormentos

BTW I'm sure that benchmark is for single player because I own the game, put over 60 hours into it and knows that the multiplayer is more demanding so it'll certainly struggle with multiplayer with 64 players. Heck single player uses less VRAM as well.

The PS4 has like 1152SP the 7850 1024 SP i think not sure don't remember well the numbers. Is a little better than the 7850,not only that if you take into account that the PS4 is not targeting anything higher than 1080p,it should keep the PS4 at least 3 year at least close to PC.tormentos

It's also probably using GCN 2.0 and HSA, so it's got that avantage. Plenty of RAM too. PC hardware moves fast, though. 2yrs. from when the next-gen HD Twins drop there will be hardware and games that push it right back to the Crysis levels of 2007. Happens every cycle.

Last cycle was more comparable to high-end PC than this gen. PS4 is less of a jump compared to 360.

Stop comparing DDR3 with GDDR5. 


No PC gaming rig has 8GB's of GDDR5.  SLI/Crossfire setups don't take advantage of both GPU's ram count. If you have two 4GB GPU's in SLI you are still stuck with 4GB's of VRAM. 

Now, the PS4 has 8GB's of unified GDDR5 ram, so it is shared with the CPU/GPU/OS. Though the OS will likely only take 1GB max, so you will have 7GB's of GDDR5 dedicated to game development. Also, PC games right now are not made with 7GB's of GDDR5 ram in mind. 

If you have two 4GB GPU's in SLI you are still stuck with 4GB's of VRAM. 

emgesp

Stop comparing DDR3 with GDDR5. 


No PC gaming rig has 8GB's of GDDR5.  SLI/Crossfire setups don't take advantage of both GPU's ram count. If you have two 4GB GPU's in SLI you are still stuck with 4GB's of VRAM. 

Now, the PS4 has 8GB's of unified GDDR5 ram, so it is shared with the CPU/GPU/OS. Though the OS will likely only take 1GB max, so you will have 7GB's of GDDR5 dedicated to game development. Also, PC games right now are not made with 7GB's of GDDR5 ram in mind. 

emgesp

Stop comparing DDR3 with GDDR5.


No PC gaming rig has 8GB's of GDDR5. SLI/Crossfire setups don't take advantage of both GPU's ram count. If you have two 4GB GPU's in SLI you are still stuck with 4GB's of VRAM.

Now, the PS4 has 8GB's of unified GDDR5 ram, so it is shared with the CPU/GPU/OS. Though the OS will likely only take 1GB max, so you will have 7GB's of GDDR5 dedicated to game development. Also, PC games right now are not made with 7GB's of GDDR5 ram in mind.

emgesp

Here's the thing... SLI and CF use that RAM to run 2 GPUs at 1 time and they both render their on part of the image. So to say that you get no benefit out of that VRAM is wrong.

That's like saying you only really need 2GB VRAM to run 2 GTX 680's. Which is false.