Let's face it, minus exclusives the 360 does everything better

I bought a ps3 a while back and it turns out the 360 is still the better console to play most stuff on. Better controller. Better Multiplats. Netflix is more responsive. Dloads are faster. Most content is quicker to come up on 360.

Thing is I think the ps3 is the better console. I think it's capable of more if it was developed for. I don't think the hardware itself is designed to a multimedia device like the 360 is though.

I pretty much bought a ps3. All I use it for is The Show and Uncharted and a few other exlcusive games i'll try.

I'm not a 360 fanboy by any means. I don't even think the 360 is that great. I think it sucks in a lot of ways. I really was hoping the ps3 would be the more supported console this gen. BEcause I think it is capable of better games. But it's just not.

The ps3 does everything? Minus the exclusives the 360 does everything else better. And Blu-RAy.. But with Netflix who cares. I don't think I've used the blu-ray player on my ps3 once.

1. Bluray

2. Free online

3. Much lower failure rate

I could go on, 360 is inferior to the PS3 in many aspects and vice versa.

Nah. Everything is pretty much the same except for ps3 superior exclusives, like you said, but also free to play online, more reliable hardware, superior media (Bluray), and also better dev support. So ps3 has quite the edge, actually.

face it, sorry, it's over, fact:, let's be honest..

Let's face it, 360 exclusives > PS3 exclusives.

Let's face it, 360 exclusives > PS3 exclusives.

waltefmoney

that may be true too. The 360 might do everything better period. I've owned both for a while here and I'm starting to wonder why i even own a ps3.

Microsoft knew hd movies and games being dloadable is the future. You don't need blu-ray.

So its more powerful, fails less, has a quiet fan, has blu ray and comes with a standard hard drive in each model?

No? Then your argument is invalid.

Let's face it, 360 exclusives > PS3 exclusives.

waltefmoney

Also, I agree. UC and God of War just aren't system sellars to me, while Halo and Gears of War offer the best that online gaming has to offer and are easily some of the best exclusives this gen.

So its more powerful, fails less, has a quiet fan, has blu ray and comes with a standard hard drive in each model?

No? Then your argument is invalid.

SPYDER0416

More powerful? Please don't even start with this nonsense. And have you heard the fan in the Xbox360 slim. It's completely silent. And the Xbox360 offers more for it's price.

And fails less? What is this, 2006? Want me to talk about the PS3 in 2006?

Worse controller, same multiplats, Netflix usage is free and you aren't being charged for a charged service, DLs are the same, Sony also pays for exclusive/timed content.

Don't think the hardware is designed for multimedia like the 360? That's completely 200% false. Blu-Ray player and 7.1 uncompressed audio via HDMI. It's far more suited. Not to mention the plethora of media card inputs and USB ports.

Yeah you are. We all know it so there's no use in denying it. The PS3 also has more high-scoring exclusives than the 360. It might even have more multiplats too but I'm not 100% on that.

Blu-Ray is superior to netflix in every way, so many people care. This is also blog material really.

Worse controller, same multiplats, Netflix usage is free and you aren't being charged for a charged service, DLs are the same, Sony also pays for exclusive/timed content.

Don't think the hardware is designed for multimedia like the 360? That's completely 200% false. Blu-Ray player and 7.1 uncompressed audio via HDMI. It's far more suited. Not to mention the plethora of media card inputs and USB ports.

Yeah you are. We all know it so there's no use in denying it. The PS3 also has more high-scoring exclusives than the 360. It might even have more multiplats too but I'm not 100% on that.

Blu-Ray is superior to netflix in every way, so many people care. This is also blog material really.

ChubbyGuy40

Same multiplats? False(you're forgetting pc/xbox multiplats). More high scoring exlusives? Barely, let's wait for Gears of War 3 before we start getting ahead of ourselves here. Worse controller? That's completely your opinion so I could care less about what you think about a controller.

Worse controller, same multiplats, Netflix usage is free and you aren't being charged for a charged service, DLs are the same, Sony also pays for exclusive/timed content.

Don't think the hardware is designed for multimedia like the 360? That's completely 200% false. Blu-Ray player and 7.1 uncompressed audio via HDMI. It's far more suited. Not to mention the plethora of media card inputs and USB ports.

Yeah you are. We all know it so there's no use in denying it. The PS3 also has more high-scoring exclusives than the 360. It might even have more multiplats too but I'm not 100% on that.

Blu-Ray is superior to netflix in every way, so many people care. This is also blog material really.

ChubbyGuy40

1. maybe if you have small hands. I don't.

2. It really isn't. It can't handle the workload of general purpose tasks as well as the 360.

3. I'm really not. I've made many a post in the ps3's favor and been told I'm a ps3 fanboy. So your argument is invalid. I'm not a fanboy at all. I more just tell it how it is. I wish the ps3 was better. I don't want MS to have a monopoly. I'm all for competition. I think in ways game machines like the ps3 are going by the wayside and it's a loss. It really is. I think graphically if specifically coded for the ps3 is more powerful. When it comes to specific tasks and arcade style gaming the ps3's architecture is capable of more imo. But the resources to do that and money talks. That's the evil side of microsoft.

4. Downloadable games and movies is the future. It's really not blog material. It's the end of system wars. Sad maybe.

Your correct, the 360 does everything much superior to the PS3, it's just those few exclusive games the ps3 has, and even then, if those games were done on 360, they'd be much better.

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So its more powerful, fails less, has a quiet fan, has blu ray and comes with a standard hard drive in each model?

No? Then your argument is invalid.

epicstory

More powerful? Please don't even start with this nonsense. And have you heard the fan in the Xbox360 slim. It's completely silent. And the Xbox360 offers more for it's price.

And fails less? What is this, 2006? Want me to talk about the PS3 in 2006?

Great, so the fan in one model is quieter while everything else is still factually worse. Way to prove me wrong dude.

Also apparently, the PS3's failure rate is somehow worth mentioning in 2006. You know, even though its probably more in my favor if you mention it.

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

So its more powerful, fails less, has a quiet fan, has blu ray and comes with a standard hard drive in each model?

No? Then your argument is invalid.

epicstory

More powerful? Please don't even start with this nonsense. And have you heard the fan in the Xbox360 slim. It's completely silent.

Wish I could say the same thing, but I bought a 360 slim 2 weeks ago and it's loud as hell. A quiet fan in the console doesn't matter when the PSU sounds like a jet engine.

1. maybe if you have small hands. I don't.

2. It really isn't. It can't handle the workload of general purpose computing

3. I'm really not. I've made many a post in the ps3's favor and been told I'm a ps3 fanboy. So your argument is invalid. I'm not a fanboy at all. I more just tell it how it is. I wish the ps3 was better. I don't want MS to have a monopoly. I'm all for competition. I think in ways game machines like the ps3 are going by the wayside and it's a loss. It really is. I think graphically if specifically coded for the ps3 is more powerful. But the resources to do that and money talks. That's the evil side of microsoft.

4. Downloadable games and movies is the future. It's really not blog material. It's the end of system wars. Sad maybe.

Celtic_34

1. You do know all it is, is smaller grips. I have medium-large hands and the PS3 controller fits perfectly.

2. So? That is completely invalid and useless. It has far superior media capabilities, so it wins. Not to mention it has a web browser which you can do any "general purpose" activities there.

3. "Tell it how it is" in my opinion. Sorry but you're not a realist. It's 5 million units behind the 360, and both will never catch the Wii.

4. Maybe/maybe not. Physical is still the largest source of money. And it's entirely blog material because it's all opinion.

that may be true too. The 360 might do everything better period. I've owned both for a while here and I'm starting to wonder why i even own a ps3.

Celtic_34

Do you want me to remind you why you have a PS3?

Am playing the Infamous and Motorstorm demos. I know fanboys will disagree but I don't think PC's or the 360 can do this. Killzone is the same thing. The cell is different than normal PC architecture where it can handle many tasks at once why you see so much going on on screen. It's a different architecture much like RISC processors back in the day. It excels at certain kinds of gaming. Coupled with Blu-Ray and the ability to stream large amounts of media that can be incorporated into games. Yes standard PC architecture with a great GPU and loads of bandwith also has a huge advantage when pumping lots of textures in a huge open world environment. But it reminds me of back in the day when playing games on a game machine like an Amiga and then the PC came into the mix.

Celtic_34

TC be trolling us ... !!! :)

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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

So its more powerful, fails less, has a quiet fan, has blu ray and comes with a standard hard drive in each model?

No? Then your argument is invalid.

SPYDER0416

More powerful? Please don't even start with this nonsense. And have you heard the fan in the Xbox360 slim. It's completely silent. And the Xbox360 offers more for it's price.

And fails less? What is this, 2006? Want me to talk about the PS3 in 2006?

Great, so the fan in one model is quieter while everything else is still factually worse. Way to prove me wrong dude.

Also apparently, the PS3's failure rate is somehow worth mentioning in 2006. You know, even though its probably more in my favor if you mention it.

I can mention alot more than the failure rate lmao. But I'm not going to pick at straws like you. Have a nice day sir.

If you're not a pc gamer, xbox360 is definitely the better choice.

Same multiplats? False(you're forgetting pc/xbox multiplats). More high scoring exlusives? Barely, let's wait for Gears of War 3 before we start getting ahead of ourselves here. Worse controller? That's completely your opinion so I could care less about what you think about a controller.

epicstory

1. No no no no. No double standards here. They are the same multiplats. If PC multiplats are the same as console multiplats, then they are the same between consoles.

2. I already said I'm not sure on the number of multiplats for each system. I only know that PS3 still leads in higher scoring exclusives by 3-4 games. Not to mention Sony has a lot more games comming out this year and next than Microsoft does. All 360 has is Forza, Gears, and an HD remake.

3. It is, but so is the TC's post.

Meh, in terms of hardware there's not too much difference. I suppose technically the PS3 is a 'superior' model in terms of how it is built, but the outcome is basically the same.

It's what is packed into the console that you're concerned with, and yeah the XBOX has a hell of a lot more features, but with these features comes a price. The features you're paying for on top of XBL are great, but they're just not for me. Therefore the PS3 caters more to my needs. In terms of online play and servers, there really is no difference...again, it's just all the added features which you're paying for.

Let's face it, 360 exclusives > PS3 exclusives.

waltefmoney

[QUOTE="epicstory"]

Same multiplats? False(you're forgetting pc/xbox multiplats). More high scoring exlusives? Barely, let's wait for Gears of War 3 before we start getting ahead of ourselves here. Worse controller? That's completely your opinion so I could care less about what you think about a controller.

ChubbyGuy40

1. No no no no. No double standards here. They are the same multiplats. If PC multiplats are the same as console multiplats, then they are the same between consoles.

2. I already said I'm not sure on the number of multiplats for each system. I only know that PS3 still leads in higher scoring exclusives by 3-4 games. Not to mention Sony has a lot more games comming out this year and next than Microsoft does. All 360 has is Forza, Gears, and an HD remake.

3. It is, but so is the TC's post.

Double stanards? Please just stop.

Let's face it, 360 exclusives > PS3 exclusives.

waltefmoney

Only 1 and thats Forza, tbh thats my opinion im much more of an Uncharted guy when it comes to TPS's aswell.

Double stanards? Please just stop.

epicstory

Stop what? Consolites from saying multiplats on PC have no visual differences but the very miniscule differences between consoles somehow matter?

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that may be true too. The 360 might do everything better period. I've owned both for a while here and I'm starting to wonder why i even own a ps3.

KiZZo1

Do you want me to remind you why you have a PS3?

Am playing the Infamous and Motorstorm demos. I know fanboys will disagree but I don't think PC's or the 360 can do this. Killzone is the same thing. The cell is different than normal PC architecture where it can handle many tasks at once why you see so much going on on screen. It's a different architecture much like RISC processors back in the day. It excels at certain kinds of gaming. Coupled with Blu-Ray and the ability to stream large amounts of media that can be incorporated into games. Yes standard PC architecture with a great GPU and loads of bandwith also has a huge advantage when pumping lots of textures in a huge open world environment. But it reminds me of back in the day when playing games on a game machine like an Amiga and then the PC came into the mix.

Celtic_34

TC be trolling us ... !!! :)

I'm not trolling. My argument remains the same. Like I said I'm none of the above. I just tell it like it is. I'm probably the most fair tell it like it is, person on these boards. That's the funny part lol.

TC be trolling us ... !!! :)

KiZZo1

I'd take that out of your post if I were you. Calling someone a troll is an act of trolling, so mods will go after you :)

[QUOTE="epicstory"]

Double stanards? Please just stop.

ChubbyGuy40

Stop what? Consolites from saying multiplats on PC have no visual differences but the very miniscule differences between consoles somehow matter?

All I'm saying is xbox360 has L4D, Mass Effect 1, and is also getting Witcher 2. Those aren't on the PS3. You said the PS3 and Xbox360 have the same multiplats, which is false.

I'm not trolling. My argument remains the same. Like I said I'm none of the above. I just tell it like it is in my opinion. I'm probably the most educated fair person on these boards. That's the funny part lol.

Celtic_34

Well educated and fair user? You are far from it. Now, you are doing what he accused you of.

And if you're going to say stuff like this, at least be correct about what you're saying.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Let's face it, 360 exclusives > PS3 exclusives.

razgriz_101

Only 1 and thats Forza, tbh thats my opinion im much more of an Uncharted guy when it comes to TPS's aswell.

UC's online is more for casuals anyway.

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I'm not trolling. My argument remains the same. Like I said I'm none of the above. I just tell it like it is in my opinion. I'm probably the most educated fair person on these boards. That's the funny part lol.

ChubbyGuy40

Well educated and fair user? You are far from it. Now, you are doing what he accused you of.

And if you're going to say stuff like this, at least be correct about what you're saying.

And you let your biases get the best of you, so you cannot be considered a fair user either.

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

I'm not trolling. My argument remains the same. Like I said I'm none of the above. I just tell it like it is in my opinion. I'm probably the most educated fair person on these boards. That's the funny part lol.

ChubbyGuy40

Well educated and fair user? You are far from it. Now, you are doing what he accused you of.

And if you're going to say stuff like this, at least be correct about what you're saying.

I was editing that post.

I still think the ps3 is better at specific tasks. That hasn't changed. I think for certain types of games it's better than the 360 for sure.

I understand the architecture of these consoles in general terms probably better than anyone on these boards. That isn't a lie or a troll. I'd say that's probably true.

I'm an unbiased person and understand how computers work. Can I give you every detail? No but even the people who can have no idea how it applies in a real world scenario half the time.

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[QUOTE="epicstory"]

Double stanards? Please just stop.

epicstory

Stop what? Consolites from saying multiplats on PC have no visual differences but the very miniscule differences between consoles somehow matter?

All I'm saying is xbox360 has L4D, Mass Effect 1, and is also getting Witcher 2. Those aren't on the PS3. You said the PS3 and Xbox360 have the same multiplats, which is false.

They told PS3 users to wait on the news. It was never confirmed The Witcher 2 wasn't going to PS3. That's the most complicated platform to develop for and they need more time since they are a small team.

I was talking about the visual differences. When I said the same multiplats, that's exactly what I meant. I wasn't talking about the PC/360 multiplats in that argument.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

I'm not trolling. My argument remains the same. Like I said I'm none of the above. I just tell it like it is in my opinion. I'm probably the most educated fair person on these boards. That's the funny part lol.

epicstory

Well educated and fair user? You are far from it. Now, you are doing what he accused you of.

And if you're going to say stuff like this, at least be correct about what you're saying.

And you let your biases get the best of you, so you cannot be considered a fair user either.

I never claimed that because I'm not ignorant enough to believe that. I know I'm not fair. I hate MS platforms and love Sony and Nintendo. I game on PC because it has the best of everything when it comes to games.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Celtic_34"]

I'm not trolling. My argument remains the same. Like I said I'm none of the above. I just tell it like it is in my opinion. I'm probably the most educated fair person on these boards. That's the funny part lol.

Celtic_34

Well educated and fair user? You are far from it. Now, you are doing what he accused you of.

And if you're going to say stuff like this, at least be correct about what you're saying.

I was editing that post.

I still think the ps3 is better at specific tasks. That hasn't changed. I think for certain types of games it's better than the 360 for sure.

I understand the architecture of these consoles in general terms probably better than anyone on these boards. That isn't a lie or a troll. I'd say that's probably true.

People just aren't used to seeing PS3 owners that don't actually hate the Xbox360 with every ounce of their being and bash it every chance they get. You're a rare breed on this website my friend.

I agree. Exclusives aren't everything too me, so I prefer the Xbox360. It has alot of haters, but alot of PS3 users come off as insercure to me, and they go to great lengths to insult the Xbox360 for no reason. Sony's fanbase is absolutely insanse. I'm a big Sony guy myself, but the PS3 fanboys on this site are just absolutely delusional to great extents. Also, this thread is going to get nothing but hate, but haters gonna hate8)

epicstory

Yes, those damn PS3 fans always bash every single game on 360 dont they? Oh please, if I didnt know any better and went off the lemming consensus on this site, I would think Killzone 2 and 3 were in the 60's on Metacritic (despite being AAA and AA). Lemmings are the only faction on this site that will treat an AA-AAA game like it is the biggest abomination to mankind.

How many cows bash something like Alan Wake for example? Or Left 4 Dead? or Fable? now compare that to what you find in a Killzone Or most recently by yourself, an Infamous 2 thread?(or any PS3 exclusive thread).

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Well educated and fair user? You are far from it. Now, you are doing what he accused you of.

And if you're going to say stuff like this, at least be correct about what you're saying.

ChubbyGuy40

And you let your biases get the best of you, so you cannot be considered a fair user either.

I never claimed that because I'm not ignorant enough to believe that. I know I'm not fair. I hate MS platforms and love Sony and Nintendo. I game on PC because it has the best of everything when it comes to games.

Exactly. So I feel like I'm wasting my time responding to you because I basically know what you're going to say anyway. A man who cannot look at things from a logical standpoint is not a man worth arguing with.

I still think the ps3 is better at specific tasks. That hasn't changed. I think for certain types of games it's better than the 360 for sure.

I understand the architecture of these consoles in general terms probably better than anyone on these boards. That isn't a lie or a troll. I'd say that's probably true.

I'm an unbiased person and understand how computers work. Can I give you every detail? No but even the people who can have no idea how it applies in a real world scenario half the time.

Celtic_34

The PS3 is better at some tasks and the 360 is better at others. They're damn near equal in visual prowess and this is confirmed by the visuals of Gears 3 and Uncharted 3.

No you don't. Both Teuf and Ron know about them in great detail. They know a lot more than you do. So yes, it is a lie. I also highly doubt you know the basic fundamentals of the core architecture behind the chips in these consoles.

Facts speak louder than your biased words. I understand computers work too. Transisitors go off and on while creating ones and zeros.

Exactly. So I feel like I'm wasting my time responding to you because I basically know what you're going to say anyway. A man who cannot look at things from a logical standpoint is not a man worth arguing with.

epicstory

So why are you even trying to argue with me when you didn't even understand my post in the first place? Isn't that a logical fail on your behalf?

Consoles have certain advantages. The 360 really doesn't in ways. It's basically standard pc architecture in a little box and it's outdated. The ps3 does.

Celtic_34

I bought a ps3 a while back and it turns out the 360 is still the better console to play most stuff on.

Celtic_34

I think I notice a small inconsistency.

Ok, well that is debatable, and also, why would you minus exclusives anyway? PS3 has a much better library than the 360 since the PS3 has the multiplats and a lot more exclusives which are also well received.

Ok, well that is debatable, and also, why would you minus exclusives anyway? PS3 has a much better library than the 360 since the PS3 has the multiplats and a lot more exclusives which are also well received.

trugs26

And the Xbox360 has alot of exclusives that are well recieved. Along with better multiplats. So the PS3 having a much better library is a load of bull as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE="epicstory"]

Double stanards? Please just stop.

ChubbyGuy40

Stop what? Consolites from saying multiplats on PC have no visual differences but the very miniscule differences between consoles somehow matter?

Outside of 4-5 multiplats (bayonetta, orange box, Mafia 2, etc) the games look exactly the same. Any difference is something incredibly minute, and just insignificant s*** that a normal human being wouldnt notice, like the 360 version running 60fps to PS3's 58.7fps. Strong "superiority" :roll:

Ive played Red Dead Redemption on both consoles. The game looks exactly the same, even though ive heard lemmings use that as ammo on here. Any difference between multiplats is so insignificant that if that bothers you then you shouldnt even be gaming.

This just makes me laugh because lems basically spit in cows faces when they bring up Killzone 3's graphics, but they get a hard on over a multiplat running 2 frames faster.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="epicstory"]

Double stanards? Please just stop.

StrongDeadlift

Stop what? Consolites from saying multiplats on PC have no visual differences but the very miniscule differences between consoles somehow matter?

Outside of 4-5 multiplats (bayonetta, orange box, Mafia 2, etc) the games look exactly the same. Any difference is something incredibly minute, and just insignificant s*** that a normal human being wouldnt notice, like the 360 version running 60fps to PS3's 58.7fps. Strong "superiority" :roll:

Ive played Red Dead Redemption on both consoles. The game looks exactly the same, even though ive heard lemmings use that as ammo on here. Any difference between multiplats is so insignificant that if that bothers you then you shouldnt even be gaming.

This just makes me laugh because lems basically spit in cows faces when they bring up Killzone 3's graphics, but they get a hard on over a multiplat running 2 frames faster.

It's a solid argument. The differences may not be game breaking, but they're noticable. And cows use this argument for like the 2 multiplats that run better on the PS3. I'm sure you've used it too.

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[QUOTE="epicstory"]

I agree. Exclusives aren't everything too me, so I prefer the Xbox360. It has alot of haters, but alot of PS3 users come off as insercure to me, and they go to great lengths to insult the Xbox360 for no reason. Sony's fanbase is absolutely insanse. I'm a big Sony guy myself, but the PS3 fanboys on this site are just absolutely delusional to great extents. Also, this thread is going to get nothing but hate, but haters gonna hate8)

epicstory

Yes, those damn PS3 fans always bash every single game on 360 dont they? Oh please, if I didnt know any better and went off the lemming consensus on this site, I would think Killzone 2 and 3 were in the 60's on Metacritic (despite being AAA and AA). Lemmings are the only faction on this site that will treat an AA-AAA game like it is the biggest abomination to mankind.

How many cows bash something like Alan Wake for example? now compare that to what you find in a Killzone(or any PS3 exclusive thread).

Your post is like the complete opposite of the people on this site. You're crazy if you believe what you wrote. Plus I know you're a banned user and I'm pretty sure I know what your other account is.

As for your "banned account" accusation, im not even going to address that. I dont even post on here like that lol.