Let's face it, minus exclusives the 360 does everything better

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#51 WilliamRLBaker
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Most definitely agreed there tc.

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#53 i5750at4Ghz
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PS3 is a better media device and is much more reliable as well. Other than that I agree.
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#54 KiZZo1
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I'm starting to wonder why i even own a ps3.

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Let me try to help ...

The spe's in the cell allow it to handle many processes at once. Why you see certain special effects in games like Killzone, Infamous, Motorstorm, Uncharted that you don't see elsewhere.

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But the cell still has advantages that a PC can not pull off.

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The 360 is actually outdated by PC standards. The Cell isn't. It's more like an arcade machine. It's designed specifically for games.

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if you want to see multiple explosions and stuff going on in the background and all sorts of crazy stuff going while streaming media at the same time from blu-ray, the ps3 will kick the crap out of a PC.

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Watch the fight scenes in infamous and watch all that is going on. A PC can't do that. If you think it can you are wrong.

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put Killzone on a PC and it would melt.

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#55 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Stop what? Consolites from saying multiplats on PC have no visual differences but the very miniscule differences between consoles somehow matter?

epicstory

This. Both consoles are worth owning (which is why I own both ;) ) but the whole "superior multiplats" is probably the stupidest arguement amongst the lemmings. (unless you want it on 360 for xbox live)

Outside of 4-5 multiplats (bayonetta, orange box, Mafia 2, etc) the games look exactly the same. Any difference is something incredibly minute, and just insignificant s*** that a normal human being wouldnt notice, like the 360 version running 60fps to PS3's 58.7fps. Strong "superiority" :roll:

Ive played Red Dead Redemption on both consoles. The game looks exactly the same, even though ive heard lemmings use that as ammo on here. Any difference between multiplats is so insignificant that if that bothers you then you shouldnt even be gaming.

This just makes me laugh because lems basically spit in cows faces when they bring up Killzone 3's graphics, but they get a hard on over a multiplat running 2 frames faster.

It's a solid argument. The differences may not be game breaking, but they're noticable. And cows use this argument for like the 2 multiplats that run better on the PS3. I'm sure you've used it too.

Your post makes the assumption that 1. I am a fanboy, like you, 2. That I actually give a damn about a console war, and 3. that I only game on 1 system ;)

To any normal non system-warrior, a game on 360 running 2 frames faster is not noticable unless you recorded both systems running side by side with a capture card, then spent all day analyzing screenshots from Lenz of Truth. Any normal human being in the real world wouldnt give two s***s. Whats funny, is that if this were a thread comparing Killzone 3 and Halo Reach's graphics, you would be saying the opposite ;)

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#56 ChubbyGuy40
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And the Xbox360 has alot of exclusives that are well recieved. Along with better multiplats. So the PS3 having a much better library is a load of bull as far as I'm concerned.

epicstory

PS3 exclusives: 1 AAAA, 8 AAA, 18 AA, 17 A

360 exclusives: 8 AAA, 17 AA, 17 A

44 for PS3, plus an AAAA on it's side while 360 has 42. I am not counting PSN/XBL since GS does not review every game from there. Also keep in mind the sheet has not been updated since May I believe, so some titles are missing. PS3 would have an even further lead if that were the case.

PS3 exclusives + multiplats: 300

360 exclusives + multiplats: 366

Those extra 66 are PC/360 or 360/Wii multiplats the PS3 obviously did not receive. The numbers in () I'll be putting below is a number to represent who has the best of what.

In short, 360 for multiplats (3) but it's last in exclusives (1). PS3 for the most balanced amount of exclusives (2) and multiplats (2.) Wii if you just want exclusives (3) since it wins with it's numbers but dead last in multiplats (1) (which is why it's the best to pair with PC.) You're right, it is a load of bull since every console comes out with a (2/3) score. It comes down to what you're looking for. Also we can't determine the exact diversity of genres between platforms because no one wants to count those.

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#57 ChubbyGuy40
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It's a solid argument. The differences may not be game breaking, but they're noticable. And cows use this argument for like the 2 multiplats that run better on the PS3. I'm sure you've used it too.

epicstory

Consolites say the same thing when we present those visual differences; which are much, much bigger on PC than between consoles; yet they claim it doesn't count/doesn't matter/some other excuse. Why should either get to use it for their platforms if they don't want to use it fairly.

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#58 catfishmoon23
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Worse controller, same multiplats, Netflix usage is free and you aren't being charged for a charged service, DLs are the same, Sony also pays for exclusive/timed content.

Don't think the hardware is designed for multimedia like the 360? That's completely 200% false. Blu-Ray player and 7.1 uncompressed audio via HDMI. It's far more suited. Not to mention the plethora of media card inputs and USB ports.

Yeah you are. We all know it so there's no use in denying it. The PS3 also has more high-scoring exclusives than the 360. It might even have more multiplats too but I'm not 100% on that.

Blu-Ray is superior to netflix in every way, so many people care. This is also blog material really.

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Also, Netflix offers 5.1 surround sound on PS3, a feature missing from the 360 app.

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Also, Netflix offers 5.1 surround sound on PS3, a feature missing from the 360 app.

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Really? Netflix on the 360 can't even stream that? First MS screws you over by charging you to use an already-being-paid-for service, then don't even give you all the benefits? Wow.

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#60 catfishmoon23
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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

Also, Netflix offers 5.1 surround sound on PS3, a feature missing from the 360 app.

ChubbyGuy40

Really? Netflix on the 360 can't even stream that? First MS screws you over by charging you to use an already-being-paid-for service, then don't even give you all the benefits? Wow.

Yeah, I'm really surprised they haven't updated it yet tbh.

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#61 StrongDeadlift
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I've seen your post buddy. You says all kinds of crap on here.

And did you quit gaming yet?

epicstory

Your talking about that thread I made when I said Infamous 2 would have been game of the year? Wait that was all?

Oh noes! Stop the presses, someone LIKES a game that happens to be on PS3! God forbid someone praises a game that is on PS3 :roll:.

Please enlighten me on the "all kinds of crap" that I post here. Because if that is it, then I have to wonder why you seem so bothered by the mere fact that someone even likes a game on PS3, gives PS3 positive attention, or associates themselves with PS3 in any way. :? You sure its cows with the problem?

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#62 epicstory
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[QUOTE="epicstory"]

I've seen your post buddy. You says all kinds of crap on here.

And did you quit gaming yet?

StrongDeadlift

Your talking about that thread I made when I said Infamous 2 would have been game of the year? Wait that was all?

Oh noes! Stop the presses, someone LIKES a game that happens to be on PS3! God forbid someone praises a game that is on PS3 :roll:.

Please enlighten me on the "all kinds of crap" that I post here. Because if that is it, then I have to wonder why you seem so bothered by the mere fact that someone even likes a game on PS3, gives PS3 positive attention, or associates themselves with PS3 in any way. :? You sure its cows with the problem?

Your not a bad poster, I'm not trying to offend you. I'll admit, you don't badmouth games or console, so I applaud you for that.

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Let's face it TC, anyone with low end gaming PC (almost everyone) dun need an X360 :P .

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#64 epicstory
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Let's face it TC, anyone with low end gaming PC (almost everyone) dun need an X360 :P .

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That's funny, because most of the ps3 users who constantly bash Microsoft don't even have one.

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#65 omho88
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[QUOTE="epicstory"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

Let's face it TC, anyone with low end gaming PC (almost everyone) dun need an X360 :P .

That's funny, because most of the ps3 users who constantly bash Microsoft don't even have one.

if you say so. 50 million PS3 owners dun have PCs and they can't even read nor write .... :?.
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#66 waltefmoney
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Let's face it TC, anyone with low end gaming PC (almost everyone) dun need an X360 :P .

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And why is that?

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#67 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="epicstory"]

I've seen your post buddy. You says all kinds of crap on here.

And did you quit gaming yet?

epicstory

Your talking about that thread I made when I said Infamous 2 would have been game of the year? Wait that was all?

Oh noes! Stop the presses, someone LIKES a game that happens to be on PS3! God forbid someone praises a game that is on PS3 :roll:.

Please enlighten me on the "all kinds of crap" that I post here. Because if that is it, then I have to wonder why you seem so bothered by the mere fact that someone even likes a game on PS3, gives PS3 positive attention, or associates themselves with PS3 in any way. :? You sure its cows with the problem?

Your not a bad poster, I'm not trying to offend you. I'll admit, you don't badmouth games or console, so I applaud you for that.

And I respect you more for saying that. Truce, I guess. :oops:

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#68 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

Let's face it TC, anyone with low end gaming PC (almost everyone) dun need an X360 :P .

waltefmoney

And why is that?

Because it has the least amount of exclusives of the 3 consoles. Majority of the multiplats that for some reason don't make it to PS3, are already on the PC.

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#69 epicstory
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[QUOTE="epicstory"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

Your talking about that thread I made when I said Infamous 2 would have been game of the year? Wait that was all?

Oh noes! Stop the presses, someone LIKES a game that happens to be on PS3! God forbid someone praises a game that is on PS3 :roll:.

Please enlighten me on the "all kinds of crap" that I post here. Because if that is it, then I have to wonder why you seem so bothered by the mere fact that someone even likes a game on PS3, gives PS3 positive attention, or associates themselves with PS3 in any way. :? You sure its cows with the problem?

StrongDeadlift

Your not a bad poster, I'm not trying to offend you. I'll admit, you don't badmouth games or console, so I applaud you for that.

And I respect you more for saying that. Truce, I guess. :oops:

Ya. ;) I realize I was kind of being rude to people I should have toned it down a little bit.

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I wish my console would greet me every time I turned it on.

Like Hal.

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#71 sakura_Ex
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This thread proves that the Xbox 360's 2011 is looking pretty damn weak .
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#72 KiZZo1
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Ya. ;) I realize I was kind of being rude to people I should have toned it down a little bit.

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You got a greeting from a moderator ? :lol:

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#73 Sagem28
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Tc you really opened my eyes ! Thank you so much !
I'm gonna go and throw my PS3 in the trashcan and get myself a treesixtie !

God bless you man !

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#74 waltefmoney
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Because it has the least amount of exclusives of the 3 consoles. Majority of the multiplats that for some reason don't make it to PS3, are already on the PC.

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How many more high scoring exclusives does the ps3 have? 2? The 360 more than makes up for that by having 7 more high scoring downloadable exclusives. So, assuming you own a gaming PC, the PS3 would be the worst choice of the three.

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To topic title: well that's nothing new. 360 has been the strongest one of the two this generation. Better online, better controller, better library when it still mattered. Not to mention this whole "PS3 exclusives" thing has been debunked anyway since most PS3 exclusives are flops and actually aren't that good...
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They're astoundingly similar to someone who has'nt become attached to either device.

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How many more high scoring exclusives does the ps3 have? 2? The 360 more than makes up for that by having 7 more high scoring downloadable exclusives. So, assuming you own a gaming PC, the PS3 would be the worst choice of the three.

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I don't count the PSN/XBL titles, because not all of them are ever reviewed and they don't include XBLA/VC/PSN VC in their spreadsheets. So PS3 still wins unless I'm wrong about them not scoring all of them. I also count high scoring from A and onward.

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That's actually not true at all, no free online, no blu ray, no standard HDD, less exclusives released and less exclusives upcoming. Face it, it does a lot worse out of the two.Sorry TC.
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This thread proves that the Xbox 360's 2011 is looking pretty damn weak .sakura_Ex
This thread does make the 360 fans look a little insecure, that sucks for them if true.
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I don't count the PSN/XBL titles, because not all of them are ever reviewed and they don't include XBLA/VC/PSN VC in their spreadsheets. So PS3 still wins unless I'm wrong about them not scoring all of them. I also count high scoring from A and onward.

ChubbyGuy40

Of course not every XBLA/PSN game ever gets reviewed, but even if you take that into account XBLA still kicks the crap out of PSN. And even if you count AE+, the difference is still 2 games.

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#82 epicstory
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That's actually not true at all, no free online, no blu ray, no standard HDD, less exclusives released and less exclusives upcoming. Face it, it does a lot worse out of the two.Sorry TC.1stPlaceWinner

As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't.

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#83 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]This thread proves that the Xbox 360's 2011 is looking pretty damn weak .1stPlaceWinner
This thread does make the 360 fans look a little insecure, that sucks for them if true.

That's nothing compared to how insecure the opposing faction makes themselves look on a daily basis. I mean, the sigs alone..

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#84 epicstory
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This thread proves that the Xbox 360's 2011 is looking pretty damn weak .sakura_Ex

One thread proves that? Cows make the most damage control threads, they're off the charts. A game flops, it's because the reviewer's an idiot and the game is actually really perfect. Give me a break.

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#85 epicstory
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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]This thread proves that the Xbox 360's 2011 is looking pretty damn weak .waltefmoney

This thread does make the 360 fans look a little insecure, that sucks for them if true.

That's nothing compared to how insecure the opposing faction makes themselves look on a daily basis. I mean, the sigs alone..

Exactly. The guy has the nerve to say that after one thread. What a joke.

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

I don't count the PSN/XBL titles, because not all of them are ever reviewed and they don't include XBLA/VC/PSN VC in their spreadsheets. So PS3 still wins unless I'm wrong about them not scoring all of them. I also count high scoring from A and onward.

waltefmoney

Of course not every XBLA/PSN game ever gets reviewed, but even if you take that into account XBLA still kicks the crap out of PSN. And even if you count AE+, the difference is still 2 games.

It does, but that'd mean the Wii would win in that category with it's mass-amount of legacy games and Wiiware titles that never get reviewed I'd bet.

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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]This thread proves that the Xbox 360's 2011 is looking pretty damn weak .epicstory

One thread proves that? Cows make the most damage control threads, they're off the charts. A game flops, it's because the reviewer's an idiot and the game is actually really perfect. Give me a break.

That doesn't make up for the 360 really having a drought in exclusives this year for the Fall quarter. I mean Gears 3 was delayed just so it'd have more, which doesn't matter because it releases a few days before Fall anyway so it's a summer title.

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It does, but that'd mean the Wii would win in that category with it's mass-amount of legacy games and Wiiware titles that never get reviewed I'd bet.

ChubbyGuy40

Maybe it could with the WiiWare titles, but I'm pretty sure legacy games wouldn't count in the spreadsheet.

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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]This thread proves that the Xbox 360's 2011 is looking pretty damn weak .1stPlaceWinner
This thread does make the 360 fans look a little insecure, that sucks for them if true.

lol they are insecure, this thread proves it, 360 does everything better? like what? crap hardware? some games on multiple discs? online fee? lack of exclusives? lets face it all its got going for it is multiplat games and those are starting to be more equal or better on ps3
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lol they are insecuretastetheacidmil

and then

this thread proves it, 360 does everything better? like what? crap hardware? some games on multiple discs? online fee? lack of exclusives? lets face it all its got going for it is multiplat games and those are starting to be more equal or better on ps3tastetheacidmil

talk about irony.

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#91 epicstory
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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]This thread proves that the Xbox 360's 2011 is looking pretty damn weak .tastetheacidmil
This thread does make the 360 fans look a little insecure, that sucks for them if true.

lol they are insecure, this thread proves it, 360 does everything better? like what? crap hardware? some games on multiple discs? online fee? lack of exclusives? lets face it all its got going for it is multiplat games and those are starting to be more equal or better on ps3

If all you're going to do is throw out insults, you can just leave. Like I said, haters gonna hate. And you actually might be insecure, because if you weren't, you wouldn't sit here and try to insult the Xbox360 8)

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#92 epicstory
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[QUOTE="tastetheacidmil"]lol they are insecurewaltefmoney

and then

this thread proves it, 360 does everything better? like what? crap hardware? some games on multiple discs? online fee? lack of exclusives? lets face it all its got going for it is multiplat games and those are starting to be more equal or better on ps3tastetheacidmil

talk about irony.

Ya, I noticed that too.

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#93 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

It does, but that'd mean the Wii would win in that category with it's mass-amount of legacy games and Wiiware titles that never get reviewed I'd bet.

waltefmoney

Maybe it could with the WiiWare titles, but I'm pretty sure legacy games wouldn't count in the spreadsheet.

That's why I don't count them either. If you're gonna count part of it, you should count all of it. That's my opinion anyway.

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#94 tastetheacidmil
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[QUOTE="tastetheacidmil"][QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] This thread does make the 360 fans look a little insecure, that sucks for them if true.epicstory

lol they are insecure, this thread proves it, 360 does everything better? like what? crap hardware? some games on multiple discs? online fee? lack of exclusives? lets face it all its got going for it is multiplat games and those are starting to be more equal or better on ps3

If all you're going to do is throw out insults, you can just leave. Like I said, haters gonna hate. And you actually might be insecure, because if you weren't, you wouldn't sit here and try to insult the Xbox360 8)

yup haters like the op, home truths are not insults, im far from insecure i aint the one making threads about the 360 being better, but some lems on here need to be taking down a notch
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#98 KiZZo1
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How many more high scoring exclusives does the ps3 have? 2?

waltefmoney

Given 360's year head start and better development tools, that's sort of bad ...

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#99 ChubbyGuy40
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And TC's post are truths, not being insecure. I think you need to calm your ass down.

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Better controller? opinion. Better multiplats? Also opinion. Netflix is also superior on the PS3, not a fact that can be argued against.

Hardware wasn't designed to be a multimedia device? It has everything the 360 has and more. Another non-arguable fact.

Based on the TC's past, and if I'm correct also past accounts, a lemming is he.

360 does everything better? Opinion. Blu-Ray is a major plus, no matter what.

I'm sorry but what in his post was truth?

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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]That's actually not true at all, no free online, no blu ray, no standard HDD, less exclusives released and less exclusives upcoming. Face it, it does a lot worse out of the two.Sorry TC.epicstory

As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't.


Does to me