Lets Finish This! - Nintendo Has Not Abandoned Their Core Group!

If you want to be able to Debate in this Topic, I

suggest you READ and not just LOOK

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This list below is showing the amount of games that Nintendo releases every year starting with the GameCube in 2001 and ending with this year's holiday season. Lets just see how this year compares with other years.

GameCube

2001 - Things are Starting up

1. WaveRace Blue Storm
2. Luigis Mansion
3. Super Smash Bros Melee - Big Fall Title
4. Pikmin

2002 - Mario and Metroid + other great titles

1. Eternal Darkness (2nd Party)
2. Super Mario Sunshine - Big Spring Title
3. Animal Crossing - Big Summer Title
4. StarFox Adventures
5. Mario Party 4
6. Metroid Prime - Big Fall Title

2003 - WORST Nintendo year of the GameCube

1. The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker - Big Spring Title
2. Wario World
3. Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
4. F-Zero GX (SEGA) - Big Summer Title
5. Mario Party 5
6. Mario Kart Double Dash - Big Fall Title
7. Pokemon Channel

2004 - Best Nintendo Year of the GameCube

1. Pokemon Coliseum
2. WarioWare: Mega Party Game$ - Big Spring Title
3. Custom Robo (2nd Party)
4. Legend of Zelda: Four Sword Adventures
5. Pikmin 2 - Big Summer Title
6. Donkey Konga
7. Mario Party: The Thousand Year Door - Big Fall Title
8. Mario Power Tennis
9. Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - Big Fall Title
10. Mario Party 6

2005 - A very Average Year. No HUGE titles at all.

1. Star Fox: Assult (Namco)
2. Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat - Big Spring Title
3. Donkey Donga 2
4. Geist (2nd Party)
5. Mario SuperStar Baseball
6. Battalion Wars - Big Summer Title
7. Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
8. Fire Emblem: Path of Radience - Big Fall Title
9. Mario Party 7

2006 - If Zelda was not here... this year would be useless.

1. Super Mario Strikers - Big Spring Title
2. Chibi-Robo
3. Odama (2nd Party) - Big Summer Title
4. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - Big Summer Title

Ok, so... the GameCube sucked. What good games it had, they were GREAT! But Nintendo just didn't put out a lot of big titles every year. If there was a Time for anyone to say that they are leaving their core Audience... it would have been here. With Titles like Chibi Robo and Odama for the GameCube's last year, those are pretty casual games. Now lets look at the Wii.

Wii

2006 - the Wii Begins

1. Excite Truck
2. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - Big Fall Title
3. Wii Sports

2007 - Best Year Nintendo has Had in a LONG TIME!!!

1. Wii Play
2. WarioWare: Smooth Moves
3. Super Paper Mario - Big Spring Title
4. Mario Party 8
5. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
6. Pokemon Battle Revolution
7. Mario Strikers Charged
8. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - Big Summer Title
9. Donkey Kong: Barrel Blast
10. Battalion Wars 2
11. Endless Ocean
12. Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn
13. Super Mario Galaxy - Big Fall Title
14. Super Smash Brothers: Brawl - Big Winter Title

When games like Battalion Wars, Fire Emblem, Wario Ware, and Mario Strikers were considered BIG releases for the year on GameCube, they are 2nd tier to the REAL big titles! This is proof that Nintendo is focused on ALL gamers. They are not sacrificing titles to create these non-gamer games... but they are making MORE games at a time. How? These simple games like Wii Sports, Wii Play, and Wii Fit take a group of 20 people or less to make! Because of this, Nintendo fans to not have to suffer through with just these titles. So, what do we know about 2008?

2008 - from what we know (and i'm guessing here people)

1. Mario Kart Wii - Big Spring Title
2. Wii Fit
3. Disaster: Day of Crisis - Big Summer Title
4. Kriby's Adventure
5. Project HAMMER
6. Animal Crossing - Big Fall Title

Other Titles may include; Pikmim 3, Starfox, Wave Race, 1080º, and several more. This is hardly anything from what we really know. Nintendo has stated that they have over 40 titles in the works for Wii, and we know about 12 of them. They also stated that most of them are for the "Hardcore". This probably means titles like Pikmin and Starfox! :D

Now, If you have read this... you may now debate. I hope you enjoyed my look back at just how Nintendo supports their consoles!

Yes, you are right, the Wii is finished.

Where's the pictures??? Why is there a 56k warning on the top??? :?

Anyway, this thread speaks the truth but sadly fanboy's won't listen!!!

I'm a little confused ... are you saying Warior Ware & Mario Strikers are suppose to appeal to the more indepth gamer? (avoiding the word hardcore)

And Donkey Kong jungle beat was a highlight ... please ... are you only going by sales because that was a junk rip-off/sidetrack of what was possible the ebst platformer on the SNES (no I'm not following the herd on Mario)

Also you have a game typo "Mario Party : Thousand Year Door" ... isnt it somethign like "Paper Mario RPG : Thousand Year Door" ... that game was awesome :D

Good job... now watch as the fanboys rush in. They fear the Wii--why else would they care enough to make fun of it?--ProtoMan--

They must fear the PS3 even more.

Here are some quick comparisons for you all to ponder.

1. If this year is the Best year for the Wii, it will still be MUCH better than the Gamecubes best year -

2004 - Best Nintendo Year of the GameCube

1. Pokemon Coliseum
2. WarioWare: Mega Party Game$ - Big Spring Title
3. Custom Robo (2nd Party)
4. Legend of Zelda: Four Sword Adventures
5. Pikmin 2 - Big Summer Title
6. Donkey Konga
7. Mario Party: The Thousand Year Door - Big Fall Title
8. Mario Power Tennis
9. Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - Big Fall Title
10. Mario Party 6

2007 - Best Year Nintendo has Had in a LONG TIME!!!

1. Wii Play
2. WarioWare: Smooth Moves
3. Super Paper Mario - Big Spring Title
4. Mario Party 8
5. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
6. Pokemon Battle Revolution
7. Mario Strikers Charged
8. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - Big Summer Title
9. Donkey Kong: Barrel Blast
10. Battalion Wars 2
11. Endless Ocean
12. Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn
13. Super Mario Galaxy - Big Fall Title
14. Super Smash Brothers: Brawl - Big Winter Title

2006 - If Zelda was not here... this year would be useless.

1. Super Mario Strikers - Big Spring Title
2. Chibi-Robo
3. Odama (2nd Party) - Big Summer Title
4. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - Big Summer Title

2008 - from what we know (and i'm guessing here people)

1. Mario Kart Wii - Big Spring Title
2. Wii Fit
3. Disaster: Day of Crisis - Big Summer Title
4. Kriby's Adventure
5. Project HAMMER
6. Animal Crossing - Big Fall Title

Want to put up my special post kansas?nintendofreak_2

haha, if you wish you can do it as a post.

"If anyone needs MORE proof - READ THIS!"

something along those lines ;)

Where's the pictures??? Why is there a 56k warning on the top??? :?

Anyway, this thread speaks the truth but sadly fanboy's won't listen!!!

FireEmblem_Man

sorry, as I was making it I was putting in pictures of each game... then I said "Hey, there are too many games"

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]Want to put up my special post kansas?kansasdude2009

haha, if you wish you can do it as a post.

"If anyone needs MORE proof - READ THIS!"

something along those lines ;)

How'd your driving test go?

Where's the pictures??? Why is there a 56k warning on the top??? :?

Anyway, this thread speaks the truth but sadly fanboy's won't listen!!!

FireEmblem_Man

all you've proven is that nintendo is sticking to its guns in mario, metroid and smash.

of course this is nintnedo's best year with all 3 at one time. You make it seem like a bigger deal than it really is.

all you've proven is that nintendo is sticking to its guns in mario, metroid and smash.

of course this is nintnedo's best year with all 3 at one time. You make it seem like a bigger deal than it really is.

JPOBS

I'm a little confused ... are you saying Warior Ware & Mario Strikers are suppose to appeal to the more indepth gamer? (avoiding the word hardcore)

And Donkey Kong jungle beat was a highlight ... please ... are you only going by sales because that was a junk rip-off/sidetrack of what was possible the ebst platformer on the SNES (no I'm not following the herd on Mario)

Meu2k7

Did you read it? Because it all makes sense. I am saying that if you complain about Nintendo not supporting it's core gamer, you are SADLY mistaken. Because it has more games coming out this year than ever. In 2005, Fire Emblem was considered a HUGE highlight for the Fall on Gamecube. Well... Fire Emblem is coming out November 5th on Wii. Why is it not big this time? Because there a a ton of better games from nintendo that are coming.

Oh, and for it's season, DK:JB was considered a big highlight compared to other Nintendo games in that season.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

all you've proven is that nintendo is sticking to its guns in mario, metroid and smash.

of course this is nintnedo's best year with all 3 at one time. You make it seem like a bigger deal than it really is.

nintendogamer6

Kansasdude is seriously making it seem like an accomplishment to be proud of.

If i put twilight princess, metroid prime and melee in the same year on gamecube, it would be the same thing.

all you've proven is that nintendo is sticking to its guns in mario, metroid and smash.

of course this is nintnedo's best year with all 3 at one time. You make it seem like a bigger deal than it really is.

JPOBS

But it is a big deal. People seem to have this oppinion that Nintendo have suddenly destroyed a sector of their market, which is totally untrue.

I'm a little confused ... are you saying Warior Ware & Mario Strikers are suppose to appeal to the more indepth gamer? (avoiding the word hardcore)

And Donkey Kong jungle beat was a highlight ... please ... are you only going by sales because that was a junk rip-off/sidetrack of what was possible the ebst platformer on the SNES (no I'm not following the herd on Mario)

Also you have a game typo "Mario Party : Thousand Year Door" ... isnt it somethign like "Paper Mario RPG : Thousand Year Door" ... that game was awesome :D

Meu2k7

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

I'm a little confused ... are you saying Warior Ware & Mario Strikers are suppose to appeal to the more indepth gamer? (avoiding the word hardcore)

And Donkey Kong jungle beat was a highlight ... please ... are you only going by sales because that was a junk rip-off/sidetrack of what was possible the ebst platformer on the SNES (no I'm not following the herd on Mario)

kansasdude2009

Did you read it? Because it all makes sense. I am saying that if you complain about Nintendo not supporting it's core gamer, you are SADLY mistaken. Because it has more games coming out this year than ever. In 2005, Fire Emblem was considered a HUGE highlight for the Fall on Gamecube. Well... Fire Emblem is coming out November 5th on Wii. Why is it not big this time? Because there a a ton of better games from nintendo that are coming.

Oh, and for it's season, DK:JB was considered a big highlight compared to other Nintendo games in that season.

Thats part of his point, those titles were big on the GC, but aren't getting that much attention this time around because there are better games coming out.

2008 - from what we know (and i'm guessing here people)

1. Mario Kart Wii - Big Spring Title
2. Wii Fit
3. Disaster: Day of Crisis - Big Summer Title
4. Kriby's Adventure
5. Project HAMMER
6. Animal Crossing - Big Fall Title

Bit suprised are yeh?
kansasdude2009

There is really no point in having Project H.A.M.M.E.R. there. They say it's on hold, but I don't believe them. I think it's canned. I also think that maybe Disaster is the game that got more casual... which is sad.

Let's hope not though. I'm dying for some Disaster action! I really don't care about Project H.A.M.M.E.R. although it would be nice to have.

This is a really good thread though.

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]Want to put up my special post kansas?nintendofreak_2

haha, if you wish you can do it as a post.

"If anyone needs MORE proof - READ THIS!"

something along those lines ;)

How'd your driving test go?

we had a tornado durring it, and we stopped... its been rescheduled :(

on topic - this is pretty funny to watch.

No, they haven't abandoned anybody who lives in dies by the next update to the Zelda or Mario series. But they sure have given up on the rest of "hardcore" gamers.Teufelhuhn

If that's the case, they weren't trying in the first place.

This THREAD just proves and ONLY proves a MAJORITY of those games are 1st Party titles.....Key titles that help sell Nintendo platforms.

Wii is still on a silver platter for Non-gaming casuals to feast on.

Sorry, sheep. Wii still sucks in my book. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Let's remove all the non-games and complete casual stuff from your 2k7 list: Super Paper Mario - Big Spring Title Mario Strikers Charged Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - Big Summer Title Battalion Wars 2 Endless Ocean Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn Super Mario Galaxy - Big Fall Title Super Smash Brothers: Brawl - Big Winter Title Still a decent list, but not much of a leg up on the GC's best year. And beyond that, this puts almost every major Nintendo franchise out the door in the first year with no announcements of other stuff. Nobody questioned whether or not the Wii has traditional Nintendo fanchises now, those were already in development (heck, TP and SPM were directly ported from GC). The doubt is if we see any of this stuff again later in the gen. Also, Project HAMMER was cancelled.ReverieDLM

Also Project HAMMER was not cancelled they just stoped production to work on another game.(at one time I knew what that game was but iv forgotten)

They're still making their core games, but even with all their massive success over the last couple years the only direction they've expanded is towards casual junk. Those game lineups before this year were just utter junk too. And I guess they're still appealing to their core group if all that's left of the core group are a bunch of fruits who love cutesy crap... because really most everyone normal was long gone during the Gamecube days.Lazy_Boy88

Go play Fire Emblem and see if it is cutesy!!!

No, they haven't abandoned anybody who lives in dies by the next update to the Zelda or Mario series. But they sure have given up on the rest of "hardcore" gamers.Teufelhuhn

Teuf, you want Pikmin 3, admit it.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

I'm a little confused ... are you saying Warior Ware & Mario Strikers are suppose to appeal to the more indepth gamer? (avoiding the word hardcore)

And Donkey Kong jungle beat was a highlight ... please ... are you only going by sales because that was a junk rip-off/sidetrack of what was possible the ebst platformer on the SNES (no I'm not following the herd on Mario)

Also you have a game typo "Mario Party : Thousand Year Door" ... isnt it somethign like "Paper Mario RPG : Thousand Year Door" ... that game was awesome :D

nintendofreak_2

If nintendo throws all thier big name games in one year of course its going to kill any other year they've had. 2008 and beyond will have the same second tier titles.

again, whats the big deal?

Also, Project HAMMER was cancelled.ReverieDLM

And its going to be the same in 2008.

If nintendo throws all thier big name games in one year of course its going to kill any other year they've had. 2008 and beyond will have the same second tier titles.

again, whats the big deal?

JPOBS

[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]he is proving that nintendo hasn't stop focussing on casuals. JPOBS

Kansasdude is seriously making it seem like an accomplishment to be proud of.

If i put twilight princess, metroid prime and melee in the same year on gamecube, it would be the same thing.

ahh... but it wasn't. This is not a debate on whether Nintedo has been recycling its material or not. My question is why do people say Nintendo has abandoned their Core group when this is the best "core group" year Nintendo has had in over 6 years?

think of it as you wish, but I suggest you read the topic.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]
And its going to be the same in 2008.

If nintendo throws all thier big name games in one year of course its going to kill any other year they've had. 2008 and beyond will have the same second tier titles.

again, whats the big deal?

nintendofreak_2

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

I'm a little confused ... are you saying Warior Ware & Mario Strikers are suppose to appeal to the more indepth gamer? (avoiding the word hardcore)

And Donkey Kong jungle beat was a highlight ... please ... are you only going by sales because that was a junk rip-off/sidetrack of what was possible the ebst platformer on the SNES (no I'm not following the herd on Mario)

Also you have a game typo "Mario Party : Thousand Year Door" ... isnt it somethign like "Paper Mario RPG : Thousand Year Door" ... that game was awesome :D

JPOBS

If nintendo throws all thier big name games in one year of course its going to kill any other year they've had. 2008 and beyond will have the same second tier titles.

again, whats the big deal?

You didn't read it. Star Fox, Pikmin, Wave Race, are all possibilities for 08, and its also been said that Miyamoto is working on a new IP.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]he is proving that nintendo hasn't stop focussing on casuals. kansasdude2009

Kansasdude is seriously making it seem like an accomplishment to be proud of.

If i put twilight princess, metroid prime and melee in the same year on gamecube, it would be the same thing.

ahh... but it wasn't. This is not a debate on whether Nintedo has been recycling its material or not. My question is why do people say Nintendo has abandoned their Core group when this is the best "core group" year Nintendo has had in over 6 years?

think of it as you wish, but I suggest you read the topic.

Most multiplats are missing. My main complaint about the wii. And I say they've abandoned the core b/c this gen it's essential for the core audience to have a good online. Wii doesn't have good online. It has few games and even when they do have good games, the online will still suck b/c there is absolutely no communication or sense of being in a community. You can't see your friends when playing, you can't even talk to them! (no strategy during MoH) Online for Wii is basically playing against CPU, only you know those other cars/ people are actual people. The online is not immersive at all.

U MAD?

You didnt even highlight most of the GC titles that appealed to the hardcore audience. Selectiveness ftl.

Exactly so i fail to see whatever point this thread was supposed to make.

JPOBS

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]
[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

I'm a little confused ... are you saying Warior Ware & Mario Strikers are suppose to appeal to the more indepth gamer? (avoiding the word hardcore)

And Donkey Kong jungle beat was a highlight ... please ... are you only going by sales because that was a junk rip-off/sidetrack of what was possible the ebst platformer on the SNES (no I'm not following the herd on Mario)

Also you have a game typo "Mario Party : Thousand Year Door" ... isnt it somethign like "Paper Mario RPG : Thousand Year Door" ... that game was awesome :D

goodlay

If nintendo throws all thier big name games in one year of course its going to kill any other year they've had. 2008 and beyond will have the same second tier titles.

again, whats the big deal?

You didn't read it. Star Fox, Pikmin, Wave Race, are all possibilities for 08, and its also been said that Miyamoto is working on a new IP.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

Exactly so i fail to see whatever point this thread was supposed to make.

nintendofreak_2