Let's just get this out of the way. DualShock 3 > 360 controller. Fact.

You guys act like I didn't expect the Lemming army to come in here and start damage controlling to the fullest.

So far everything you guys have listed have been a bunch of biased opinions that hold no weight.

Try harder.

arkephonic

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You guys act like I didn't expect the Lemming army to come in here and start damage controlling to the fullest.

So far all you guys have listed a bunch of biased opinions that hold no weight.

Try harder.

BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You guys act like I didn't expect the Lemming army to come in here and start damage controlling to the fullest.

So far all you guys have listed a bunch of biased opinions that hold no weight.

Try harder.

almasdeathchild

I consider the D-pad a huge deal, because it basically renders an entire genre of games (fighting) unplayable unless you drop $100 bucks on a fight stick. I'm a casual fighting game player, and I have no desire for a fight stick, and trust me, I buy all my fighting games for the PS3, not the 360.

They both have their pros and cons. Fact.

360 controller pros: contour and bigger grip, button that stick up instead of being pancake flat.

360 controller cons: d pad is inaccurate and sometimes unresponsive, dual sticks are unequally placed.

PS3 controller pros: internal rechargeable battery, dual stick placement is equal, d pad is great.

PS3 controller cons: smaller design, doesn't fit contour of human hands, buttons are inferior and flat, L2/R2 triggers lack solidarity.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]i dont see what there is to try when they are merly the same with minor differences like you said.and about complaining about the d-bad it isnt bad as some people think,it's not ment to preform godly combos and all that fun stuff it's made for quick switches or invintory navigation. in the end it all gos into prefrence

almasdeathchild

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You guys act like I didn't expect the Lemming army to come in here and start damage controlling to the fullest.

So far all you guys have listed a bunch of biased opinions that hold no weight.

Try harder.

arkephonic

I consider the D-pad a huge deal, because it basically renders an entire genre of games (fighting) unplayable unless you drop $100 bucks on a fight stick. I'm a casual fighting game player, and I have no desire for a fight stick, and trust me, I buy all my fighting games for the PS3, not the 360.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You guys act like I didn't expect the Lemming army to come in here and start damage controlling to the fullest.

So far all you guys have listed a bunch of biased opinions that hold no weight.

Try harder.

BrunoBRS

It just sucks. I took all the dpads out of my 360 pads and i just store all the old sweat buildup in it

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]i dont see what there is to try when they are merly the same with minor differences like you said.and about complaining about the d-bad it isnt bad as some people think,it's not ment to preform godly combos and all that fun stuff it's made for quick switches or invintory navigation. in the end it all gos into prefrence

almasdeathchild

I consider the D-pad a huge deal, because it basically renders an entire genre of games (fighting) unplayable unless you drop $100 bucks on a fight stick. I'm a casual fighting game player, and I have no desire for a fight stick, and trust me, I buy all my fighting games for the PS3, not the 360.

You use the stick because you can't use the d-pad. Big difference. And yes, it is a huge deal.

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I consider the D-pad a huge deal, because it basically renders an entire genre of games (fighting) unplayable unless you drop $100 bucks on a fight stick. I'm a casual fighting game player, and I have no desire for a fight stick, and trust me, I buy all my fighting games for the PS3, not the 360.

arkephonic

You use the stick because you can't use the d-pad. Big difference. And yes, it is a huge deal.

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You use the stick because you can't use the d-pad. Big difference. And yes, it is a huge deal.

arkephonic

Anyone else use this?

Makes the DS3's triggers suck less.

Tikeio

They were great until they broke on me.

Which might have been my fault, but they were on the controller the whole time and just snapped in half one day.

I like how none of these "facts" prove anything, nor can you prove "preference". And why so many threads about controllers? Is this what the PS3 and 360 war has devolved into?SpruceCaboose

I just made a whole list of factual advantages the DualShock 3 has over the 360 controller, and no one can even list 1 factual advantage that the 360 controller has over the DualShock 3.

I never once said people couldn't or shouldn't have their own preference.

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]bull phucking sh!t.......im a fighting game player my self i use the stick on kof doa mk sc......sometimes ive used the d-pad but it isnt the sole purpose in order to play a fighting game

almasdeathchild

You use the stick because you can't use the d-pad. Big difference. And yes, it is a huge deal.

Actually, it's a deal breaker for everyone. The D-Pad on the 360 controller simply isn't as good as the one on the Dual Shock 3. It incorrectly registers inputs constantly, it is a complete deal breaker in every sense of the phrase.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You use the stick because you can't use the d-pad. Big difference. And yes, it is a huge deal.

arkephonic

Actually, it's a deal breaker for everyone. The D-Pad on the 360 controller simply isn't as good as the one on the Dual Shock 3. It incorrectly registers inputs constantly, it is a complete deal breaker in every sense of the phrase.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I like how none of these "facts" prove anything, nor can you prove "preference". And why so many threads about controllers? Is this what the PS3 and 360 war has devolved into?arkephonic

I just made a whole list of factual advantages the DualShock 3 has over the 360 controller, and no one can even list 1 factual advantage that the 360 controller has over the DualShock 3.

I never once said people couldn't or shouldn't have their own preference.

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]LT read......i can use it if i wish,it maybe a huge deal to you but not others

almasdeathchild

Actually, it's a deal breaker for everyone. The D-Pad on the 360 controller simply isn't as good as the one on the Dual Shock 3. It incorrectly registers inputs constantly, it is a complete deal breaker in every sense of the phrase.

This is basically the equivalent of you trying to convince me that dog poop smells and tastes good.

Do a simple google search, and you'll quickly find that the D-pad is single handedly the biggest fault of the 360 controller. It is very disliked all across the world, and for good reason. It doesn't work properly.

Do a simple google search, and you'll quickly find that the D-pad is single handedly the biggest fault of the 360 controller. It is very disliked all across the world, and for good reason. It doesn't work properly.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Do a simple google search, and you'll quickly find that the D-pad is single handedly the biggest fault of the 360 controller. It is very disliked all across the world, and for good reason. It doesn't work properly.

SpruceCaboose

It's a total deal breaker for me, and I would never even think of getting a fighting game on my 360. I always have and always will get fighting games on my PS3 because of the D-Pad. I mean, if you have the option, I don't think anyone would choose the 360 d-pad over the PS3 d-pad unless they just didn't know any better.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Do a simple google search, and you'll quickly find that the D-pad is single handedly the biggest fault of the 360 controller. It is very disliked all across the world, and for good reason. It doesn't work properly.

arkephonic

It's a total deal breaker for me, and I would never even think of getting a fighting game on my 360. I always have and always will get fighting games on my PS3 because of the D-Pad. I mean, if you have the option, I don't think anyone would choose the 360 d-pad over the PS3 d-pad unless they just didn't know any better.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Seems like the Google-verse also generally claims that to be the only fault too... And most places just say it sometime misregisters an input and that it isn't horrible, just not the best.SpruceCaboose

It's a total deal breaker for me, and I would never even think of getting a fighting game on my 360. I always have and always will get fighting games on my PS3 because of the D-Pad. I mean, if you have the option, I don't think anyone would choose the 360 d-pad over the PS3 d-pad unless they just didn't know any better.

Well at least you stopped playing fighting games on a good note. Bushido Blade is one of the best fighting games of all time.

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Actually, it's a deal breaker for everyone. The D-Pad on the 360 controller simply isn't as good as the one on the Dual Shock 3. It incorrectly registers inputs constantly, it is a complete deal breaker in every sense of the phrase.

arkephonic

This is basically the equivalent of you trying to convince me that dog poop smells and tastes good.

Do a simple google search, and you'll quickly find that the D-pad is single handedly the biggest fault of the 360 controller. It is very disliked all across the world, and for good reason. It doesn't work properly.

You're even more annoying than loosingends.

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]nope not for me and millions of other people who use it. maybe you cant use it or arnt used to it but alot of people use it and seem to do just fine,you are wrong again

almasdeathchild

This is basically the equivalent of you trying to convince me that dog poop smells and tastes good.

Do a simple google search, and you'll quickly find that the D-pad is single handedly the biggest fault of the 360 controller. It is very disliked all across the world, and for good reason. It doesn't work properly.

I'm not saying google searches are always truthful, I was just saying do a google search to see how prevalent the topic of discussion is concerning the faults of the D-pad on the 360 controller. Discussion that frequent over a particular topic doesn't spawn for no reason.

lol I just gotta post this....you keep trying to prove you are unbiased yet you make continual idiotic statements.

if your wrong about that what else could you be massively wrong about?

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

This is basically the equivalent of you trying to convince me that dog poop smells and tastes good.

Do a simple google search, and you'll quickly find that the D-pad is single handedly the biggest fault of the 360 controller. It is very disliked all across the world, and for good reason. It doesn't work properly.

arkephonic

I'm not saying google searches are always truthful, I was just saying do a google search to see how prevalent the topic of discussion is concerning the faults of the D-pad on the 360 controller. Discussion that frequent over a particular topic doesn't spawn for no reason.

Well at least you stopped playing fighting games on a good note. Bushido Blade is one of the best fighting games of all time.

arkephonic

The positions of the analog sticks make the 360 controller a 1000 times better for me.

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]im not trying to convice you of anything alot of people dont have a problem with it and some people do,get over it. and lol for googleing something and believing it

almasdeathchild

I'm not saying google searches are always truthful, I was just saying do a google search to see how prevalent the topic of discussion is concerning the faults of the D-pad on the 360 controller. Discussion that frequent over a particular topic doesn't spawn for no reason.

I agree, learn to use the stick if you can't use the D-pad. Sometimes people need to make sacrifices. I don't, because like I said, I buy my fighters on PS3, so I have a fully functional D-pad to use.

wow it has been a little while since we have had this thread. I'll go ahead and pretend to take the thread serious for 1 sec and say I have a little smaller than average sized hands and the ps3 controller is too small to be comfortable for my hands and my thumbs knock against each other in FPS...so I guess it's a good thing there are no good FPS on PS3 also(had to throw that one in as another cliched outdated SW claim for a thread that is the same).

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm not saying google searches are always truthful, I was just saying do a google search to see how prevalent the topic of discussion is concerning the faults of the D-pad on the 360 controller. Discussion that frequent over a particular topic doesn't spawn for no reason.

arkephonic

I agree, learn to use the stick if you can't use the D-pad. Sometimes people need to make sacrifices. I don't, because like I said, I buy my fighters on PS3, so I have a fully functional D-pad to use.

omfg.....the irony.....

almasdeathchild

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]and? things have issues all the time and some are fixed some cows use it as an argument(like the RROD where has this been??)im not saying it doesnt have faults but it isnt a gamebreaker or all omg unplayable game. if it's really that bad learn to play with the stick

almasdeathchild

I agree, learn to use the stick if you can't use the D-pad. Sometimes people need to make sacrifices. I don't, because like I said, I buy my fighters on PS3, so I have a fully functional D-pad to use.

You know what I mean? If you have car trouble, ride a bike. If the best option isn't available, use whatever works even if it isn't as desirable. I'm no fighting game pro, but I know that the D-pad is much better for fighting games than an analog stick.

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I agree, learn to use the stick if you can't use the D-pad. Sometimes people need to make sacrifices. I don't, because like I said, I buy my fighters on PS3, so I have a fully functional D-pad to use.

arkephonic

You know what I mean? If you have car trouble, ride a bike. If the best option isn't available, use whatever works even if it isn't as desirable. I'm no fighting game pro, but I know that the D-pad is much better for fighting games than an analog stick.

*laughs* I'm getting such a kick out of the crap this guy spews.
your my new favorite fakeboy ark I love gamers that proudly announce at every opportunity they are manticores over and over and over again trying to prove something to themselves.

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]omfg.....the irony.....

almasdeathchild

You know what I mean? If you have car trouble, ride a bike. If the best option isn't available, use whatever works even if it isn't as desirable. I'm no fighting game pro, but I know that the D-pad is much better for fighting games than an analog stick.

Well then we're back at square 1, considering you don't really have an option to use the D-pad on the 360 because it doesn't work properly, so it ultimately ends up being a preference that's forced upon you.

Correction, the Dual shock 2 had analog buttons with 256 points of pressure sensitivity. I remember this being talked about last gen in SW, about how analog buttons being a point of innovation or not during the PS2/Xbox/GC SW days.

Although other devs took advantage of them like Gran Turismo 3/4, I would certainly remember as Kojima's games took advantage of the analog buttons (ZOE 1/2, MGS2/3).

This is also something that translates to PS3's copies of MGS HD Collection, and is a feature not present in the 360 copies of MGS HD Collection.

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

You know what I mean? If you have car trouble, ride a bike. If the best option isn't available, use whatever works even if it isn't as desirable. I'm no fighting game pro, but I know that the D-pad is much better for fighting games than an analog stick.

arkephonic

Well then we're back at square 1, considering you don't really have an option to use the D-pad on the 360 because it doesn't work properly, so it ultimately ends up being a preference that's forced upon you.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]thats a damn prefrence!

almasdeathchild

Well then we're back at square 1, considering you don't really have an option to use the D-pad on the 360 because it doesn't work properly, so it ultimately ends up being a preference that's forced upon you.

People using gimped D-pads vs other people using gimped D-pads sounds fair to me.

How exactly are people competing against each other, 1 using a PS3 and the other using a 360 controller? Or do you mean a PS3 owner being forced to use a 360 d-pad, in which case the point would be irrelevant considering he's using a gimped d-pad, so his experience using a fully funtional one would be of no use.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]thats a damn prefrence!

almasdeathchild

Well then we're back at square 1, considering you don't really have an option to use the D-pad on the 360 because it doesn't work properly, so it ultimately ends up being a preference that's forced upon you.

The Dpad is terrible, it got so bad that M$ actually remade the Dpad due to concerns in Europe for the Dpad heavy and popular Winning series.

Then, They even remade a transforming Dpad for the 360, although it's better, it's not nearly as it should be.

This is well, well known for years all over the internet, in the world, and especially in SW since the 360 launched in 2005, but you seem new to SW so it makes sense why you didn't realize this.I noticed it day one with my two 360 purchases back in 2005, but I'm oldschool and I have a point of reference to the previous quality of Dpads. I've also taken apart 360 controllers and the design is just poor in the Dpad area, although the rest of the controller is great.

As far as your personal story of friends, yeah, I'm one of those guys that perform good on 360 dpads, but that takes more effort than it should, and even then I know I'm better on the PS Dpad, Saturn Dpad, or SNES Dpad for instance. This is well known also in the 2D and Fighting game community, not much to talk about. Everyone's got stories like that. Your friends, like me, are just overcoming a handicap we shouldn't have to overcome.

You are defending something the console manufacturer is already admitted to being a problem and tried to rectify.

Of course, this Dpad issue is a non issue for most games these days, as they use 3D. So, you will just run into trouble in switching weapons in shooters, here and there, and that's it.

It's the 2D games and Fighting game community that suffer, unless they invest in an arcade stick (which I also own).

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Well then we're back at square 1, considering you don't really have an option to use the D-pad on the 360 because it doesn't work properly, so it ultimately ends up being a preference that's forced upon you.

arkephonic

People using gimped D-pads vs other people using gimped D-pads sounds fair to me.

How exactly are people competing against each other, 1 using a PS3 and the other using a 360 controller? Or do you mean a PS3 owner being forced to use a 360 d-pad, in which case the point would be irrelevant considering he's using a gimped d-pad, so his experience using a fully funtional one would be of no use.

what pride are you trying to keep with the d-pad? if people really had this big of an issue with the d-pad more people would complain and probably stop buying them. my ps3 as we speak has become a dust bunnie farm. prefrence......i use stick cause it feels smooth ive used d-pad in fighting games for different play spec.

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Well then we're back at square 1, considering you don't really have an option to use the D-pad on the 360 because it doesn't work properly, so it ultimately ends up being a preference that's forced upon you.

SolidTy

The Dpad is terrible, it got so bad that M$ actually remade the Dpad due to concerns in Europe for the Dpad heavy and popular Winning series.

Then, They even remade a transforming Dpad for the 360, although it's better, it's not nearly as it should be.

This is well, well known for years all over the internet, in the world, and especially in SW since the 360 launched in 2005, but you seem new to SW so it makes sense why you didn't realize this.I noticed it day one with my two 360 purchases back in 2005, but I'm oldschool and I have a point of reference to the previous quality of Dpads. I've also taken apart 360 controllers and the design is just poor in the Dpad area, although the rest of the controller is great.

As far as your personal story of friends, yeah, I'm one of those guys that perform good on 360 dpads, but that takes more effort than it should, and even then I know I'm better on the PS Dpad, Saturn Dpad, or SNES Dpad for instance. This is well known also in the 2D and Fighting game community, not much to talk about. Everyone's got stories like that. Your friends, like me, are just overcoming a handicap we shouldn't have to overcome.

You are defending something the console manufacturer is already admitted to being a problem and tried to rectify.

They're pretty similar. I prefer concave to convex dual analog but the 360's d pad iis garbage plain and simple.

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[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]omg it's like talking to aussiepet.....the d-pad isnt broken i said sure it has faults but it isnt that broken few of my friends use the 360 d-pad and do great and sometimes out play ps3 owners. jesus christ.....

almasdeathchild

People using gimped D-pads vs other people using gimped D-pads sounds fair to me.

How exactly are people competing against each other, 1 using a PS3 and the other using a 360 controller? Or do you mean a PS3 owner being forced to use a 360 d-pad, in which case the point would be irrelevant considering he's using a gimped d-pad, so his experience using a fully funtional one would be of no use.

what pride are you trying to keep with the d-pad? if people really had this big of an issue with the d-pad more people would complain and probably stop buying them. my ps3 as we speak has become a dust bunnie farm. prefrence......i use stick cause it feels smooth ive used d-pad in fighting games for different play spec.

Like SolidTY just said, you're defending something Microsoft has already proclaimed an issue. They have already addressed it, and tried to rectify it, albeit unsuccessfully.

This is basically like the equivalent of you defending Sega and saying they still make consoles.