Let's just get this out of the way. DualShock 3 > 360 controller. Fact.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

People using gimped D-pads vs other people using gimped D-pads sounds fair to me.

How exactly are people competing against each other, 1 using a PS3 and the other using a 360 controller? Or do you mean a PS3 owner being forced to use a 360 d-pad, in which case the point would be irrelevant considering he's using a gimped d-pad, so his experience using a fully funtional one would be of no use.

arkephonic

what pride are you trying to keep with the d-pad? if people really had this big of an issue with the d-pad more people would complain and probably stop buying them. my ps3 as we speak has become a dust bunnie farm. prefrence......i use stick cause it feels smooth ive used d-pad in fighting games for different play spec.

Like SolidTY just said, you're defending something Microsoft has already proclaimed an issue. They have already addressed it, and tried to rectify it, albeit unsuccessfully.

This is basically like the equivalent of you defending Sega and saying they still make consoles.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]omg it's like talking to aussiepet.....the d-pad isnt broken i said sure it has faults but it isnt that broken few of my friends use the 360 d-pad and do great and sometimes out play ps3 owners. jesus christ.....

almasdeathchild

The Dpad is terrible, it got so bad that M$ actually remade the Dpad due to concerns in Europe for the Dpad heavy and popular Winning series.

Then, They even remade a transforming Dpad for the 360, although it's better, it's not nearly as it should be.

This is well, well known for years all over the internet, in the world, and especially in SW since the 360 launched in 2005, but you seem new to SW so it makes sense why you didn't realize this.I noticed it day one with my two 360 purchases back in 2005, but I'm oldschool and I have a point of reference to the previous quality of Dpads. I've also taken apart 360 controllers and the design is just poor in the Dpad area, although the rest of the controller is great.

As far as your personal story of friends, yeah, I'm one of those guys that perform good on 360 dpads, but that takes more effort than it should, and even then I know I'm better on the PS Dpad, Saturn Dpad, or SNES Dpad for instance. This is well known also in the 2D and Fighting game community, not much to talk about. Everyone's got stories like that. Your friends, like me, are just overcoming a handicap we shouldn't have to overcome.

You are defending something the console manufacturer is already admitted to being a problem and tried to rectify.

Of course, this Dpad issue is a non issue for most games these days, as they use 3D. So, you will just run into trouble in switching weapons in shooters, here and there, and that's it.

It's the 2D games and Fighting game community that suffer, unless they invest in an arcade stick (which I also own).

Well, I agree it's not like we are dealing with an Atari 2600 stick (horrid by todays standards as it was stiff, but great back then), those things were terrible in retrospect...but it's something the community should be aware of and vocal about so that when the 720/Durango does launch, hopefully our conplaints/bi***ing corrects the one issue I've had with the controller.

Also, as I said, it's a non issue to people that don't play 2D heavy, and especially fighting games. My brother plays FPS, and he doesn't notice the Dpad hardly ever, save for in a COD session when the wrong weapon gets selected occasionally. :P

As far as your personal experience of the Dpad never failing you, I can't speak for you, but it could be you don't play Dpad intensive games nearly as much as others do.

Anyways, happy gaming. I just wanted to touch base about the Dpad history with the 360, and I hope that word of mouth will allow for a better Dpad next gen...of course, Dpad's are becoming more and more irrelevant these days with modern 3D games. :P

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

The Dpad is terrible, it got so bad that M$ actually remade the Dpad due to concerns in Europe for the Dpad heavy and popular Winning series.

Then, They even remade a transforming Dpad for the 360, although it's better, it's not nearly as it should be.

This is well, well known for years all over the internet, in the world, and especially in SW since the 360 launched in 2005, but you seem new to SW so it makes sense why you didn't realize this.I noticed it day one with my two 360 purchases back in 2005, but I'm oldschool and I have a point of reference to the previous quality of Dpads. I've also taken apart 360 controllers and the design is just poor in the Dpad area, although the rest of the controller is great.

As far as your personal story of friends, yeah, I'm one of those guys that perform good on 360 dpads, but that takes more effort than it should, and even then I know I'm better on the PS Dpad, Saturn Dpad, or SNES Dpad for instance. This is well known also in the 2D and Fighting game community, not much to talk about. Everyone's got stories like that. Your friends, like me, are just overcoming a handicap we shouldn't have to overcome.

You are defending something the console manufacturer is already admitted to being a problem and tried to rectify.

Of course, this Dpad issue is a non issue for most games these days, as they use 3D. So, you will just run into trouble in switching weapons in shooters, here and there, and that's it.

It's the 2D games and Fighting game community that suffer, unless they invest in an arcade stick (which I also own).

SolidTy

Well, I agree it's not like we are dealing with an Atari 2600 stick (horrid by todays standards as it was stiff, but great back then), those things were terrible in retrospect...but it's something the community should be aware of and vocal about so that when the 720/Durango does launch, hopefully our conplaints/bi***ing corrects the one issue I've had with the controller.

Also, as I said, it's a non issue to people that don't play 2D heavy, and especially fighting games. My brother plays FPS, and he doesn't notice the Dpad hardly ever, save for in a COD session when the wrong weapon gets selected occasionally. :P

As far as your personal experience of the Dpad never failing you, I can't speak for you, but it could be you don't play Dpad intensive games nearly as much as others do.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]leader boards. and a few of them are multiplat players.

what pride are you trying to keep with the d-pad? if people really had this big of an issue with the d-pad more people would complain and probably stop buying them. my ps3 as we speak has become a dust bunnie farm. prefrence......i use stick cause it feels smooth ive used d-pad in fighting games for different play spec.

almasdeathchild

Like SolidTY just said, you're defending something Microsoft has already proclaimed an issue. They have already addressed it, and tried to rectify it, albeit unsuccessfully.

This is basically like the equivalent of you defending Sega and saying they still make consoles.

I'm not trying to gang up on you, I'm just saying you're defending something that is extremely hard to defend.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Like SolidTY just said, you're defending something Microsoft has already proclaimed an issue. They have already addressed it, and tried to rectify it, albeit unsuccessfully.

This is basically like the equivalent of you defending Sega and saying they still make consoles.

arkephonic

I'm not trying to gang up on you, I'm just saying you're defending something that is extremely hard to defend.

I'm not trying to gang up on you, I'm just saying you're defending something that is extremely hard to defend.

arkephonic

If it was a fact you should have put up a poll, but we know why you didn't :PSpartan070

360 > PS3 controller-wise proven fact. fact you need to argue about it to prove otherwise shows me your doubt too. But since it's human nature to have things our way even tho we know deep down the truth, to settle our egos...this post doesn't surprise me. it's amusing. soapandbubbles

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]360 > PS3 controller-wise proven fact. fact you need to argue about it to prove otherwise shows me your doubt too. But since it's human nature to have things our way even tho we know deep down the truth, to settle our egos...this post doesn't surprise me. it's amusing. igsmither

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]360 > PS3 controller-wise proven fact. fact you need to argue about it to prove otherwise shows me your doubt too. But since it's human nature to have things our way even tho we know deep down the truth, to settle our egos...this post doesn't surprise me. it's amusing. igsmither

Well said. Look to page 1 for the proof it is.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]it was a problem sure i wont deny it. but it really isnt that bad. sure right now im useing the newer version i recently got to replace my old one from use. but even with that really old one the d-pad never ever failed me. and few others feel the same.

almasdeathchild

Well, I agree it's not like we are dealing with an Atari 2600 stick (horrid by todays standards as it was stiff, but great back then), those things were terrible in retrospect...but it's something the community should be aware of and vocal about so that when the 720/Durango does launch, hopefully our conplaints/bi***ing corrects the one issue I've had with the controller.

Also, as I said, it's a non issue to people that don't play 2D heavy, and especially fighting games. My brother plays FPS, and he doesn't notice the Dpad hardly ever, save for in a COD session when the wrong weapon gets selected occasionally. :P

As far as your personal experience of the Dpad never failing you, I can't speak for you, but it could be you don't play Dpad intensive games nearly as much as others do.

Anyways, happy gaming. I just wanted to touch base about the Dpad history with the 360, and I hope that word of mouth will allow for a better Dpad next gen...of course, Dpad's are becoming more and more irrelevant these days with modern 3D games. :P

I feel you brother gamer. I have a buddy that you remind me of in RL...he is great at SF games, and while I can kick his butt, he gives me a run for my money. He is persistent and is intent on overcoming any challenge. I can only do smaller string combos than I can with a better Dpad...which btw, I can do even greater combos with an Arcade stick, lol. He's great at SF on 360 though, and I like playing him, as it's the only system he has. :P

Combo wise it works like this for me 8 way arcade stick > 4 way arcade stick > PS3 Dpad > 360 Dpad.

Either way, happy gaming mi amigo. :P

[QUOTE="igsmither"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]360 > PS3 controller-wise proven fact. fact you need to argue about it to prove otherwise shows me your doubt too. But since it's human nature to have things our way even tho we know deep down the truth, to settle our egos...this post doesn't surprise me. it's amusing. arkephonic

Well said. Look to page 1 for the proof it is.

Literally, the only things you can argue that the 360 controller has over the PS3 controller are subjective, while the DualShock 3 has all of the objective advantages in its favor.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]If it was a fact you should have put up a poll, but we know why you didn't :PSpruceCaboose

Polls in SW are about factions and not about accurate results anyways. :P

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]360 > PS3 controller-wise proven fact. fact you need to argue about it to prove otherwise shows me your doubt too. But since it's human nature to have things our way even tho we know deep down the truth, to settle our egos...this post doesn't surprise me. it's amusing. igsmither

better community

more mature in more then one obvious reasons

both play at 1080p so graphics look the same on both systems. they are pretty much the same except that ps3 puts out exclusives and most are forgetable or could be multiplat

ps3 takes alot of games that could be 360 exclusive but takes them to keep afloat and hogs their own exclusives(your welcome for castle crashers)

every multiplat runs better on 360 thats a fact

and that overhyped blue-ray? doesnt add to anything but playing movies and reading discs. blu ray discs hold alot more data so they are made on said discs.other then that it doesnt add to gameing what so ever

problem???

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, I agree it's not like we are dealing with an Atari 2600 stick (horrid by todays standards as it was stiff, but great back then), those things were terrible in retrospect...but it's something the community should be aware of and vocal about so that when the 720/Durango does launch, hopefully our conplaints/bi***ing corrects the one issue I've had with the controller.

Also, as I said, it's a non issue to people that don't play 2D heavy, and especially fighting games. My brother plays FPS, and he doesn't notice the Dpad hardly ever, save for in a COD session when the wrong weapon gets selected occasionally. :P

As far as your personal experience of the Dpad never failing you, I can't speak for you, but it could be you don't play Dpad intensive games nearly as much as others do.

Anyways, happy gaming. I just wanted to touch base about the Dpad history with the 360, and I hope that word of mouth will allow for a better Dpad next gen...of course, Dpad's are becoming more and more irrelevant these days with modern 3D games. :P

SolidTy

I feel you brother gamer. I have a buddy that you remind me of in RL...he is great at SF games, and while I can kick his butt, he gives me a run for my money. He is persistent and is intent on overcoming any challenge. I can only do smaller string combos than I can with a better Dpad...which btw, I can do even greater combos with an Arcade stick, lol. He's great at SF on 360 though, and I like playing him, as it's the only system he has. :P

Combo wise it works like this for me 8 way arcade stick > 4 way arcade stick > PS3 Dpad > 360 Dpad.

Either way, happy gaming mi amigo. :P

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="igsmither"] Everything about the PS3 is better than the 360 and that's a FACT - show me proof it isn't arkephonic

Well said. Look to page 1 for the proof it is.

Literally, the only things you can argue that the 360 controller has over the PS3 controller are subjective, while the DualShock 3 has all of the objective advantages in its favor.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="igsmither"] Everything about the PS3 is better than the 360 and that's a FACT - show me proof it isn't arkephonic

Well said. Look to page 1 for the proof it is.

Literally, the only things you can argue that the 360 controller has over the PS3 controller are subjective, while the DualShock 3 has all of the objective advantages in its favor.

Oh, I didn't notice that quote said everything about the PS3, and not just the PS3 controller. I do think the 360 has some advantages over the PS3.

You make some decent points, but you fail in other aspects. On paper, the DS3 is the superior controller in a technical sense. But put these controllers in hands and you get a very different response. In reality, do an unused gyroscope, (sixaxis) pressure buttons, and 10 bit analogs a huge noticable difference? Hell No. The only thing the DS3 has going for it is the D-pad. You are outright BSing us on battery life, my rechargeable 360 batteries get between 40 and 50 hours of play before needing a charge. And I would like to see some real proof of Bluetooth being superior to a 2.4 ghz protocal, as the only thing you said is "ive had more issues with 360." Then you have the nerve to say that lems only say that the 360 pad is better based on personal bias, and based on your earlier statements that makes you a hypocrite. Nevermind the fact that the 360 controller actually has curves on it to fit the hand, or that the triggers actually *shocker* CONFORM to your damn finger! Here's how it works, the index finger bends, meets the trigger and settles into it, whereas the DS3 triggers are bent the other way, forcing the finger to rest on top of them instead of inside. Using the DS3 triggers is like putting a condom on backwards, from the tip to the hole.Plagueless

After all that, not 1 factual point, all opinions.

All you're saying is you think the 360 controller is more comfortable. That's entirely subjective. Then you disregard the increased analog precision saying it isn't noticable. It's very noticable.

[QUOTE="igsmither"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]360 > PS3 controller-wise proven fact. fact you need to argue about it to prove otherwise shows me your doubt too. But since it's human nature to have things our way even tho we know deep down the truth, to settle our egos...this post doesn't surprise me. it's amusing. almasdeathchild

better community

more mature in more then one obvious reasons

both play at 1080p so graphics look the same on both systems. they are pretty much the same except that ps3 puts out exclusives and most are forgetable or could be multiplat

ps3 takes alot of games that could be 360 exclusive but takes them to keep afloat and hogs their own exclusives(your welcome for castle crashers)

every multiplat runs better on 360 thats a fact

and that overhyped blue-ray? doesnt add to anything but playing movies and reading discs. blu ray discs hold alot more data so they are made on said discs.other then that it doesnt add to gameing what so ever

problem???

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="igsmither"] Everything about the PS3 is better than the 360 and that's a FACT - show me proof it isn't igsmither

better community

more mature in more then one obvious reasons

both play at 1080p so graphics look the same on both systems. they are pretty much the same except that ps3 puts out exclusives and most are forgetable or could be multiplat

ps3 takes alot of games that could be 360 exclusive but takes them to keep afloat and hogs their own exclusives(your welcome for castle crashers)

every multiplat runs better on 360 thats a fact

and that overhyped blue-ray? doesnt add to anything but playing movies and reading discs. blu ray discs hold alot more data so they are made on said discs.other then that it doesnt add to gameing what so ever

problem???

Ohhh look its PS3 fanboy #244664.

The #1 way to spot a fanboy is using the word fact in any thread topic or title.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]You make some decent points, but you fail in other aspects. On paper, the DS3 is the superior controller in a technical sense. But put these controllers in hands and you get a very different response. In reality, do an unused gyroscope, (sixaxis) pressure buttons, and 10 bit analogs a huge noticable difference? Hell No. The only thing the DS3 has going for it is the D-pad. You are outright BSing us on battery life, my rechargeable 360 batteries get between 40 and 50 hours of play before needing a charge. And I would like to see some real proof of Bluetooth being superior to a 2.4 ghz protocal, as the only thing you said is "ive had more issues with 360." Then you have the nerve to say that lems only say that the 360 pad is better based on personal bias, and based on your earlier statements that makes you a hypocrite. Nevermind the fact that the 360 controller actually has curves on it to fit the hand, or that the triggers actually *shocker* CONFORM to your damn finger! Here's how it works, the index finger bends, meets the trigger and settles into it, whereas the DS3 triggers are bent the other way, forcing the finger to rest on top of them instead of inside. Using the DS3 triggers is like putting a condom on backwards, from the tip to the hole.arkephonic

After all that, not 1 factual point, all opinions.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]You make some decent points, but you fail in other aspects. On paper, the DS3 is the superior controller in a technical sense. But put these controllers in hands and you get a very different response. In reality, do an unused gyroscope, (sixaxis) pressure buttons, and 10 bit analogs a huge noticable difference? Hell No. The only thing the DS3 has going for it is the D-pad. You are outright BSing us on battery life, my rechargeable 360 batteries get between 40 and 50 hours of play before needing a charge. And I would like to see some real proof of Bluetooth being superior to a 2.4 ghz protocal, as the only thing you said is "ive had more issues with 360." Then you have the nerve to say that lems only say that the 360 pad is better based on personal bias, and based on your earlier statements that makes you a hypocrite. Nevermind the fact that the 360 controller actually has curves on it to fit the hand, or that the triggers actually *shocker* CONFORM to your damn finger! Here's how it works, the index finger bends, meets the trigger and settles into it, whereas the DS3 triggers are bent the other way, forcing the finger to rest on top of them instead of inside. Using the DS3 triggers is like putting a condom on backwards, from the tip to the hole.Plagueless

After all that, not 1 factual point, all opinions.

So basically you're just going to pretend that the 10-bit analog precision, superior D-pad, pressure sensitive analog buttons and Sixaxis technology don't exist? It's all about the battery life and wireless technology? I like how you cut out so many things to try and make yourself sound legit.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]You make some decent points, but you fail in other aspects. On paper, the DS3 is the superior controller in a technical sense. But put these controllers in hands and you get a very different response. In reality, do an unused gyroscope, (sixaxis) pressure buttons, and 10 bit analogs a huge noticable difference? Hell No. The only thing the DS3 has going for it is the D-pad. You are outright BSing us on battery life, my rechargeable 360 batteries get between 40 and 50 hours of play before needing a charge. And I would like to see some real proof of Bluetooth being superior to a 2.4 ghz protocal, as the only thing you said is "ive had more issues with 360." Then you have the nerve to say that lems only say that the 360 pad is better based on personal bias, and based on your earlier statements that makes you a hypocrite. Nevermind the fact that the 360 controller actually has curves on it to fit the hand, or that the triggers actually *shocker* CONFORM to your damn finger! Here's how it works, the index finger bends, meets the trigger and settles into it, whereas the DS3 triggers are bent the other way, forcing the finger to rest on top of them instead of inside. Using the DS3 triggers is like putting a condom on backwards, from the tip to the hole.arkephonic

After all that, not 1 factual point, all opinions.

All you're saying is you think the 360 controller is more comfortable. That's entirely subjective. Then you disregard the increased analog precision saying it isn't noticable. It's very noticable.

Sony has quietly released a newer model of the DualShock3, one that is 500mA and 5.0V. This newer model of the DualShock3 has a larger, longer lasting battery inside of it and is slightly different in color when compared to the original DualShock3.

The original DualShock 3 draws up to 300mA of current up to 3.7 V. This version was comparable if not a little bit longer lasting than the play and charge kit, which doesn't come standard to begin with.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

After all that, not 1 factual point, all opinions.

arkephonic

So basically you're just going to pretend that the 10-bit analog precision, superior D-paf d, pressure sensitive analog buttons and Sixaxis technology don't exist? It's all about the battery life and wireless technology? I like how you cut out so many things to try and make yourself sound legit.

Sony has quietly released a newer model of the DualShock3, one that is 500mA and 5.0V. This newer model of the DualShock3 has a larger, longer lasting battery inside of it and is slightly different in color when compared to the original DualShock3.

The original DualShock 3 draws up to 300mA of current up to 3.7 V. This version was comparable if not a little bit longer lasting than the play and charge kit, which doesn't come standard to begin with.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="igsmither"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

better community

more mature in more then one obvious reasons

both play at 1080p so graphics look the same on both systems. they are pretty much the same except that ps3 puts out exclusives and most are forgetable or could be multiplat

ps3 takes alot of games that could be 360 exclusive but takes them to keep afloat and hogs their own exclusives(your welcome for castle crashers)

every multiplat runs better on 360 thats a fact

and that overhyped blue-ray? doesnt add to anything but playing movies and reading discs. blu ray discs hold alot more data so they are made on said discs.other then that it doesnt add to gameing what so ever

problem???

almasdeathchild

[QUOTE="Plagueless"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

After all that, not 1 factual point, all opinions.

arkephonic

So basically you're just going to pretend that the 10-bit analog precision, superior D-pad, pressure sensitive analog buttons and Sixaxis technology don't exist? It's all about the battery life and wireless technology? I like how you cut out so many things to try and make yourself sound legit.

In practice the controllers are pretty similar. The D-pad is the big difference. 10 bit precision blah blah blah doesn't really make much difference to the average person. Like both controllers but the specs aren't what ultimately determine better. The more technologically advanced system doesn't always end up being the one people enjoy for example.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="igsmither"] you mean all those screaming children that play on xbox live? LOL the rest of what you said was pretty much QQigsmither

way i see it here is you are a blind arrogant fanboy that seems to know nothing of their"favorite" system you can even put up an argument to defend it besides "look it up" i can do the same to prove 360 is better.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Sony has quietly released a newer model of the DualShock3, one that is 500mA and 5.0V. This newer model of the DualShock3 has a larger, longer lasting battery inside of it and is slightly different in color when compared to the original DualShock3.

The original DualShock 3 draws up to 300mA of current up to 3.7 V. This version was comparable if not a little bit longer lasting than the play and charge kit, which doesn't come standard to begin with.

almasdeathchild

"Let's just get this out of the way. DualShock 3 > 360 controller. Fact."

DualShock 3 has crappy triggers So IMO

DualShock 3 < 360 controller for shooters

DualShock 3 > 360 controller for everything else.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Sony has quietly released a newer model of the DualShock3, one that is 500mA and 5.0V. This newer model of the DualShock3 has a larger, longer lasting battery inside of it and is slightly different in color when compared to the original DualShock3.

The original DualShock 3 draws up to 300mA of current up to 3.7 V. This version was comparable if not a little bit longer lasting than the play and charge kit, which doesn't come standard to begin with.

PinnacleGamingP

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]the blue DS.....dem memories....../sniff

almasdeathchild

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] i just got a blue DS3, it looks amazing, that brings the tally up to 4. cant get enough of my dualshocks...

PinnacleGamingP

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"] And half your damn stuff is opinion. It is a Fact that the 360 controller conforms to the hand more. Just look at the shapes. You show me a link to your battery life and wireless arguments, and then you can talk facts. Until then you are not credible in any way.Plagueless

So basically you're just going to pretend that the 10-bit analog precision, superior D-paf d, pressure sensitive analog buttons and Sixaxis technology don't exist? It's all about the battery life and wireless technology? I like how you cut out so many things to try and make yourself sound legit.

I don't have a list on hand of all the games that support the features, but why would I need one? This thread is about the controllers themselves, not the games.

You say that 10-bit is hardly noticeable, which is questionable. I can tell a huge difference. In anything from first person shooters to racing games, the precision I get with the DualShock 3 is much better than the 360 controller. I noticed it a ton when I played Forza 4 for about a week straight.

D-pad is the primary input for 2D games and fighting games.

Bluetooth is more advanced technology than 2.4GHz protocol. It is newer, and it eliminates interference that would otherwise be troublesome when using 2.4GHz.

The PS3 has a better D-Pad and is rechargeable out of the box. That's it. The 360 controller is superior in every other way for me.

[QUOTE="igsmither"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]oh dont phucking bs me ive played my share of psn to hear kids screaming all the time. it's on both sides. and the rest isnt QQ you say that cause you cant back anything up.

almasdeathchild

way i see it here is you are a blind arrogant fanboy that seems to know nothing of their"favorite" system you can even put up an argument to defend it besides "look it up" i can do the same to prove 360 is better.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="igsmither"] I don't need to back anything up, go search for some ps3 info and you will see for yourself why the xbox 360 can't keep up. The reason they are more kids playing on the 360 is because their parents buy them the cheapest of the two. ps. on the topic of controllers, the 360 pad triggers hurt my fingers and also the ps3 pad has motion tech in it, does the 360? No igsmither

way i see it here is you are a blind arrogant fanboy that seems to know nothing of their"favorite" system you can even put up an argument to defend it besides "look it up" i can do the same to prove 360 is better.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="igsmither"] I don't need to back anything up, go search for some ps3 info and you will see for yourself why the xbox 360 can't keep up. The reason they are more kids playing on the 360 is because their parents buy them the cheapest of the two. ps. on the topic of controllers, the 360 pad triggers hurt my fingers and also the ps3 pad has motion tech in it, does the 360? No igsmither

way i see it here is you are a blind arrogant fanboy that seems to know nothing of their"favorite" system you can even put up an argument to defend it besides "look it up" i can do the same to prove 360 is better.

That's a different topic entirely. I'm a firm believer that the KB/M is the definitive controller, bar none. You especially need one for MMO's and RTS's. The only things that KB/M don't do well are 2D games, fighting games and racing games, which the DualShock 3 just so happens to be the best at.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

So basically you're just going to pretend that the 10-bit analog precision, superior D-paf d, pressure sensitive analog buttons and Sixaxis technology don't exist? It's all about the battery life and wireless technology? I like how you cut out so many things to try and make yourself sound legit.

arkephonic

I don't have a list on hand of all the games that support the features, but why would I need one? This thread is about the controllers themselves, not the games.

You say that 10-bit is hardly noticeable, which is questionable. I can tell a huge difference. In anything from first person shooters to racing games, the precision I get with the DualShock 3 is much better than the 360 controller. I noticed it a ton when I played Forza 4 for about a week straight.

D-pad is the primary input for 2D games and fighting games.

Bluetooth is more advanced technology than 2.4GHz protocol. It is newer, and it eliminates interference that would otherwise be troublesome when using 2.4GHz.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"] Already agreed on Dpad, but why are the other things such a big deal? Name one recent game that uses sixaxis. Name one multiplat that just absolutely requires the use of pressure sensitive buttons. And finally, name your source for your battery life and Bluetooth arguments. Here's the thing. Most modern games use analogs, and dpad is only used for quick presses. This 10 bit analog stuff is barley noticeable, and pressure sensitive buttons are used in very little games. However, the 360 has its awesome triggers, which are miles ahead of their PS3 coumterpart. Why else would shooting games on PS3 default to R1 to shoot?almasdeathchild

I don't have a list on hand of all the games that support the features, but why would I need one? This thread is about the controllers themselves, not the games.

You say that 10-bit is hardly noticeable, which is questionable. I can tell a huge difference. In anything from first person shooters to racing games, the precision I get with the DualShock 3 is much better than the 360 controller. I noticed it a ton when I played Forza 4 for about a week straight.

D-pad is the primary input for 2D games and fighting games.

Bluetooth is more advanced technology than 2.4GHz protocol. It is newer, and it eliminates interference that would otherwise be troublesome when using 2.4GHz.

This thread is about controllers, not games. It is a fact that the PS3 has pressure sensitive analog buttons. The D-pad is pressure sensitive as well. Just off the top of my head, games like Metal Gear Solid 4/ HD Collection and Gran Turismo use them all.

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I don't have a list on hand of all the games that support the features, but why would I need one? This thread is about the controllers themselves, not the games.

You say that 10-bit is hardly noticeable, which is questionable. I can tell a huge difference. In anything from first person shooters to racing games, the precision I get with the DualShock 3 is much better than the 360 controller. I noticed it a ton when I played Forza 4 for about a week straight.

D-pad is the primary input for 2D games and fighting games.

Bluetooth is more advanced technology than 2.4GHz protocol. It is newer, and it eliminates interference that would otherwise be troublesome when using 2.4GHz.

arkephonic

This thread is about controllers, not games. It is a fact that the PS3 has pressure sensitive analog buttons. The D-pad is pressure sensitive as well. Just off the top of my head, games like Metal Gear Solid 4/ HD Collection and Gran Turismo use them all.