Let's just get this out of the way. DualShock 3 > 360 controller. Fact.

I'm not gonna lie, I just read all of the responses since I've been away, and I have yet to see 1 single person list 1 single valid advantage that the 360 controller has over the DualShock 3. The only 2 things I have seen are people saying they think the 360 controller is more comfortable, which is completely subjective and modified by individual bias, and the other being that people like the triggers more, which is also completely subjective modified by individual bias.

This far into the thread, no one has listed 1 single objective advantage that the 360 controller has over the DualShock 3.

The Dualshock 3 has all of the objective advantages.

• Better battery in the DualShock 3 (Lithium Ion) vs the 360 controller (Nickel Metal Hydride). The DualShock 3 battery also comes standard, not as a $20 add-on.

• Not only does the DualShock 3 come with a better battery as standard than the 360 controller aftermarket battery, but the DualShock 3 lithium ion battery also offers more playtime than the nickel metal hydride 360 controller's alternative.

• The charging cable for the DualShock 3 is a universal USB cable, whereas the 360 controller uses a proprietary cable.

• Sixaxis technology is in the DualShock 3 and completely absent in the 360 controller. The 360 controller also offers no alternative.

• All buttons on the DualShock 3 are analog/pressure sensitive. Triangle, Circle, Square, L1, R1, Select, Start, as well as the D-Pad are all analog/pressure sensitive. Every button on the 360 controller is digital, and lacks analog/pressure sensitivity, including the D-Pad.

• The DualShock 3 features finer analog sensitivity than the 360 controller, increased to 10-bit precision from the 8-bit precision of the 360 controller. The DualShock 3 controller also uses both analog and digital signals simultaneously at all times during gameplay, while the 360 controller does not. 8-bit analog precision technology that the 360 controller uses is very dated, and was used in last generation controllers.

• The Bluetooth wireless technology used in the DualShock 3 is newer, more expensive, and more advanced than the proprietary wireless 2.4GHz protocol used for the 360 controller. Bluetooth also eliminates interference which would otherwise be troublesome when using the 360's alternative.

• The D-Pad on the DualShock 3 works, while the D-Pad on the 360 controller does not work.

I'd say it is also worth mentioning that the DualShock 3 is a cooler name than Xbox 360 controller. The 360 controller just can't catch a break, can it?

So, can anyone list me an objective advantage that the 360 controller has over the DualShock 3? Because all I've seen so far has been just a bunch of subjective, biased opinions from people who probably don't even have a PS3. Where are the objective arguments? Things like comfort which are entirely subjective are useless arguments because that's all in the eye of the beholder. Just as many people think the PS3 controller is more comfortable, and comfort is all a matter of opinion which is heavily swayed by individual preference and bias.

I'll come back in an hour or 2 and see if anyone has contributed a single objective advantage for the 360 controller, which if it hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will ever happen.

arkephonic

It's all about preference. This is a FPS generation and the 360 controller is far more suited for this type of gameplay. The triggers just feel more natural and satisfying compared to a bumper(R1) firing button. Not to mention the 360 controller molds into my hands better.

I prefer the offset thumbsticks and the triggers. And You have a nice bullet pointed list, but you have to weigh the impact of each.

I can recharge the 360 controller while the 360 is in sleep mode... after a full recharge, the 360 automatically turns off.

I also like the ability to easily plug things into the 360 controller. The microphone plugs right into the bottom, as does the chatpad, which I use as much as I use my mic. The chatpad even draws power from the controller. The PS3 set doesn't work as smoothely.

Technically, the DS3 battery may be better, but how does that translate to my gaming experience. The 360 controller battery lasts for days with moderate to high usage. The 360's guide button also flashes when it's low on battery.

The pressure sensitive buttons... again, how meaningful is that while playing? I don't see a noticeable difference. It's a nice win for the DS3, but only on paper.

But hey, mileage will vary for each. These little details don't amount to much on either end of the conversation because the controllers work and they're functionally sound. You can nitpick all you want, but the differences aren't significant in real world terms.

Personally, I call it a draw.

I prefer the offset thumbsticks and the triggers. And You have a nice bullet pointed list, but you have to weigh the impact of each.

I can recharge the 360 controller while the 360 is in sleep mode... after a full recharge, the 360 automatically turns off.

I also like the ability to easily plug things into the 360 controller. The microphone plugs right into the bottom, as does the chatpad, which I use as much as I use my mic. The chatpad even draws power from the controller. The PS3 set doesn't work as smoothely.

Technically, the DS3 battery may be better, but how does that translate to my gaming experience. The 360 controller battery lasts for days with moderate to high usage. The 360's guide button also flashes when it's low on battery.

The pressure sensitive buttons... again, how meaningful is that while playing? I don't see a noticeable difference. It's a nice win for the DS3, but only on paper.

But hey, mileage will vary for each. These little details don't amount to much on either end of the conversation because the controllers work and they're functionally sound. You can nitpick all you want, but the differences aren't significant in real world terms.

Personally, I call it a draw.

VoodooHak

You don't plug keyboards and microphones into the DualShock 3. You can use any bluetooth keyboard or headset and just pair them with the PS3 console, you don't need all these devices plugged into the controller itself. Plugging things into controllers like that is ancient technology, that stuff is last gen. I use a motorola bluetooth headset and an extra bluetooth keyboard and mouse that came with my computer for my PS3, and none of them plug into the controller, they all work wirelessly with the PS3 system.

A lot of the differences actually do translate into your gaming experience, most notably, the analog sticks and D-pad. The analog sticks on the DualShock 3 use 10-bit analog precision which allows for much more precise levels of accuracy, whereas the 360 controller uses 8-bit analog precision that is tech from last generation and lacks the level of accuracy. The D-pad on the 360 controller is arguably the worst D-pad ever put on a gaming controller, whereas the D-pad on the DualShock 3 is arguably the best D-pad ever put on a gaming controller. Whether it be 2D games, fighting games, changing equipment in Call of Duty or switching between gadgets on the fly in Batman Arkham City, a nice D-pad is invaluable when playing games, and it makes the experience much better.

Additions like pressure sensitive/ analog buttons and D-pad, as well as Sixaxis support are advantages, especially considering the 360 controller doesn't support any of them, or even any alternatives. How could nothing be better than more features? The game that makes best use of them are Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, a game that got a 10 here on Gamespot. I couldn't have picked a better game to utilize such features. The MLB The Show games also use them, as well as Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, Killzone, and a few other PS3 exclusives. The reason multi-plats don't support them is because they try to make games equal across all platforms, and the 360 doesn't offer any of these features.

I'll come back in an hour or 2 and see if anyone has contributed a single objective advantage for the 360 controller, which if it hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will ever happen.arkephonic

Already did. The 360 controller actually fits my hands. Again, PS3 controller is made for women, children, and feminine men. Which are you again?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]I'll come back in an hour or 2 and see if anyone has contributed a single objective advantage for the 360 controller, which if it hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will ever happen.brennanhuff

Already did. The 360 controller actually fits my hands. Again, PS3 controller is made for women, children, and feminine men. Which are you again?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]I'll come back in an hour or 2 and see if anyone has contributed a single objective advantage for the 360 controller, which if it hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will ever happen.brennanhuff

Already did. The 360 controller actually fits my hands. Again, PS3 controller is made for women, children, and feminine men. Which are you again?

The only thing related to children here is your intelligence level. You consider that objective?

poor tc, i would also hate the 360 controller if i walked in on the controller, my mom and the infinite warthog ammo vibration trick.

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]I'll come back in an hour or 2 and see if anyone has contributed a single objective advantage for the 360 controller, which if it hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will ever happen.PinnacleGamingP

Already did. The 360 controller actually fits my hands. Again, PS3 controller is made for women, children, and feminine men. Which are you again?

Bwhahahahahahaha!

What the hell does this nonsense have to do with physical size of the controller? Second, I already posted this pages ago. And most importantly, jellyfish? I have owned a PS3 since 2008. Nice try.

Even for a Sony cheerleader this is embarrassing. Quit now, for the good of your squad.

Kinda crazy how we're already on page 6 and not 1 person has given an objective advantage for the 360 controller.

Page 6 is around the time where people start resorting to insults and name calling.

Ah yes, right on cue.

AKA I win, you lose.

The only thing related to children here is your intelligence level.

arkephonic

Page 6 is around the time where people start resorting to insults and name calling.arkephonic

lol.

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The only thing related to children here is your intelligence level.

Stevo_the_gamer

Page 6 is around the time where people start resorting to insults and name calling.arkephonic

lol.

That wasn't a subjective opinion, that was a fact. Facts aren't considered name calling.

That is unless you agree with the notion that DualShock 3 is designed for women and children is an objective fact, than I would question your intelligence level as well.

That wasn't a subjective opinion, that was a fact. Facts aren't considered name calling.

arkephonic

Stevo doesn't know what objective and subjective means, go figure.

Stevo doesn't know what objective and subjective means, go figure.

arkephonic

Stevo doesn't know what objective and subjective means, go figure.

arkephonic

Feel free to contribute to the thread anytime, Stevo. Or you could just troll and derail threads like you always do.

Stevo doesn't know what objective and subjective means, go figure.

arkephonic

Or you could just troll and derail threads like you always do.

arkephonic

lol.

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Stevo doesn't know what objective and subjective means, go figure.

Aljosa23

Comfort is subjective.

That laundry list of advantages I listed? Those are objective.

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Stevo doesn't know what objective and subjective means, go figure.

arkephonic

Comfort is subjective.

That laundry list of advantages I listed? Those are objective.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Come on man, your title is an opinion and has the word "Fact". Clearly it is you who doesn't know.

Aljosa23

Comfort is subjective.

That laundry list of advantages I listed? Those are objective.

Subjective.

Feel free to contribute to the thread anytime, Stevo. Or you could just troll and derail threads like you always do.

arkephonic

srry again about this officer, a misunderstanding thats all, alright folks move along were all busy here.

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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Comfort is subjective.

That laundry list of advantages I listed? Those are objective.

arkephonic

Subjective.

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]All those "advantages" go out the window when the thing isn't ergonomically acceptable.

Aljosa23

Subjective.

Lol, none of the advantages I listed are subjective, they're objective.

Build and buttons are better on the ps1, 2, 3 controller, general design is superior for the 360 controller.

Lol, none of the advantages I listed are subjective, they're objective.

arkephonic

your posts read like advertising that youll see on the back of the box luls

Let me give you some examples of subjective arguments and objective arguments.

Humans need water to survive: Objective

Humans need food to survive: Objective

Death Metal is the best music in the world: Subjective

A 2009 Ford Mustang requires gasoline to drive: Objective

Metal Gear Solid 4 is the best video game ever made: Subjective

The Xbox 360 controller is more comfortable to hold than the DualShock 3: Subjective

The Xbox 360 has better triggers than the DualShock 3: Subjective

All of the things I listed in the original post are objective, not subjective. The only advantages given thus far for 360 controller advantages have been subjective.

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Lol, none of the advantages I listed are subjective, they're objective.

Aljosa23

your posts read like advertising that youll see on the back of the box luls

D-pad and analog sticks alone make it better to use.

And the most important feature of a gamepad that the DS3 is missing is ergonomics. I prefer all the other stuff it offers over the 360 wireless... but it is a hand-cramping machine, especially when I play for more than 2-3 hours at a time.foxhound_fox

Comfort is subjective. I have big hands, I can grip an NBA sized basketball with 1 hand, and I find the DualShock 3 more comfortable, but I didn't put that in my list because comfort is a subjective argument.

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]NEWSFLASH: Video games are 100% subjective.

sts106mat

Lol, none of the advantages I listed are subjective, they're objective.

one of those items highlighted in your list of so called "advantages" is the triggers, yet you say that the shape of them is subjective. so your above point is wrong for a start. lets say that both consoles allowed the use of any controller and you had a choice between the larger 360 pad and the smaller less comfortable for larger handed individuals, which one would you choose?

despite having a ps2 all last gen and thinking that the xbox controller was too large, this gen i have realised that the layout of the 360 pad is far superior and suits my hands better.

someone once posted a great article here that looked at controllers from years ago up until now, i cannot remember who it was, but it showed WHY the layout of the sticks on the 360 pad are the way they are it goes back to almost the beginning of gaming. its the Dual shock thats actually out of place.....

If you actually read the context behind my trigger point, I declared them equal and based on personal preference. If you expect me to read what you say, then read what I say.

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[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

one of those items highlighted in your list of so called "advantages" is the triggers, yet you say that the shape of them is subjective. so your above point is wrong for a start. lets say that both consoles allowed the use of any controller and you had a choice between the larger 360 pad and the smaller less comfortable for larger handed individuals, which one would you choose?

despite having a ps2 all last gen and thinking that the xbox controller was too large, this gen i have realised that the layout of the 360 pad is far superior and suits my hands better.

someone once posted a great article here that looked at controllers from years ago up until now, i cannot remember who it was, but it showed WHY the layout of the sticks on the 360 pad are the way they are it goes back to almost the beginning of gaming. its the Dual shock thats actually out of place.....

sts106mat

If you actually read the context behind my trigger point, I declared them equal and based on personal preference. If you expect me to read what you say, then read what I say.

Please, save me the herp derp, the context says otherwise.

Comfort is subjective. I have big hands, I can grip an NBA sized basketball with 1 hand, and I find the DualShock 3 more comfortable, but I didn't put that in my list because comfort is a subjective argument.arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]Comfort is subjective. I have big hands, I can grip an NBA sized basketball with 1 hand, and I find the DualShock 3 more comfortable, but I didn't put that in my list because comfort is a subjective argument.foxhound_fox

A video game forum isn't the place for me to be bragging about my penis size.

I never said people couldn't or shouldn't prefer the 360 controller, I'm just pointing out that all of the objective advantages are in the DualShock 3's favor.

A video game forum isn't the place for me to be bragging about my penis size.arkephonic

I never said people couldn't or shouldn't prefer the 360 controller, I'm just pointing out that all of the objective advantages are in the DualShock 3's favor.arkephonic

You should feel really bad about wasting so much forum bandwidth on an essentially useless and non-productive argument.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]A video game forum isn't the place for me to be bragging about my penis size.foxhound_fox

I never said people couldn't or shouldn't prefer the 360 controller, I'm just pointing out that all of the objective advantages are in the DualShock 3's favor.arkephonic

What is up with your obsession over my penis size? Why would I be talking about how big it is on a video game internet forum?

The fact that the DualShock 3 has all of the objective advantages is a topic for discussion. Whether you like it or not is none of my concern, just like your curiosity of my penis size should be none of your concern, unless you're a male that is attracted to other males, in which case let me just get this out of the way, I'm straight.

ITT: People calling OP names for using logic with facts. Hmmm

What is up with your obsession over my penis size? Why would I be talking about how big it is on a video game internet forum?

The fact that the DualShock 3 has all of the objective advantages is a topic for discussion. Whether you like it or not is none of my concern, just like your curiosity of my penis size should be none of your concern, unless you're a male that is attracted to other males, in which case let me just get this out of the way, I'm straight.

arkephonic

again to the OP does this count in your logic

xbox>>>gamecube>>>>dreamcast>>>>ps2

n64>>>>saturn>>>>>>>ps1

DS3>>>>>>>KB/M

XBL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PSN

Really with you objective points you really are grasping at straws, who gives £$%^ if you prefer the DS3 over 360 control. Also with your "facts" can you actually proves them, you asked for facts for which one was better but can you provide them

so me proof that the charge on the DS3 is longer,

show me proof of the fact that the ds3 is more accurate then the 360 control, and not just the 8/10 BS you throw around, actually professional opinions

show me the connection on the ps3 is better then 360, same as above, all you have spouted on this is YOU'VE (reliable sourse) had trouble

NO you cant as so far 15 pages into this topic you havent showned anything to prove your "facts". Your basing you ownage on sixaxis ( for which even sony have mostly forgotten about, as was a cheap tacked on trick) and pressure sensitive button which again is rarely used by anyone but MGS or GT.

I never said people couldn't or shouldn't prefer the 360 controller, I'm just pointing out that all of the objective advantages are in the DualShock 3's favor.

arkephonic

360 controller >>>>>>> ps3 controller

PS3 movie playback >>> 360 movie playback (blu ray)

xboxlive >> psn

Thats just my opinion

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]Comfort is subjective. I have big hands, I can grip an NBA sized basketball with 1 hand, and I find the DualShock 3 more comfortable, but I didn't put that in my list because comfort is a subjective argument.foxhound_fox

hahaha, foxhound >>

The tech alone in the DS3 makes it the better controller and that is a FACT people.igsmither

Wow. this thread is still going?