Let's just get this out of the way. DualShock 3 > 360 controller. Fact.

[QUOTE="igsmither"]The tech alone in the DS3 makes it the better controller and that is a FACT people.Badosh

[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="igsmither"]The tech alone in the DS3 makes it the better controller and that is a FACT people.igsmither

[QUOTE="igsmither"][QUOTE="Badosh"] No.Badosh

[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="igsmither"] No.igsmither

ITT: People calling OP names for using logic with facts. Hmmm

Masenkoe

I appreciate both but I prefer the DAs of the 360 controller while the D-Pad of the DS is so much better it's not even funny.

That's why I give my vote to DS3, that D-Pad is used extensively in almost every sinlge game that features any kind of inventory and the difference is far more noticable than the difference in DAs.

I expect from an xbox fanboy...igsmither

That was well written. But you know how I figured iprefered the 360 controller? I played games with both. I don't care about anything else. Just using them. I don't do anything but play games with them. And I am more comfortable with 360 controller.cainetao11

The tech alone in the DS3 makes it the better controller and that is a FACT people.igsmither

No, its a fact the the PS3 has some better technology, but that does not make it the better controller.

[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="igsmither"]The tech alone in the DS3 makes it the better controller and that is a FACT people.igsmither

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

I prefer the offset thumbsticks and the triggers. And You have a nice bullet pointed list, but you have to weigh the impact of each.

I can recharge the 360 controller while the 360 is in sleep mode... after a full recharge, the 360 automatically turns off.

I also like the ability to easily plug things into the 360 controller. The microphone plugs right into the bottom, as does the chatpad, which I use as much as I use my mic. The chatpad even draws power from the controller. The PS3 set doesn't work as smoothely.

Technically, the DS3 battery may be better, but how does that translate to my gaming experience. The 360 controller battery lasts for days with moderate to high usage. The 360's guide button also flashes when it's low on battery.

The pressure sensitive buttons... again, how meaningful is that while playing? I don't see a noticeable difference. It's a nice win for the DS3, but only on paper.

But hey, mileage will vary for each. These little details don't amount to much on either end of the conversation because the controllers work and they're functionally sound. You can nitpick all you want, but the differences aren't significant in real world terms.

Personally, I call it a draw.

arkephonic

You don't plug keyboards and microphones into the DualShock 3. You can use any bluetooth keyboard or headset and just pair them with the PS3 console, you don't need all these devices plugged into the controller itself. Plugging things into controllers like that is ancient technology, that stuff is last gen. I use a motorola bluetooth headset and an extra bluetooth keyboard and mouse that came with my computer for my PS3, and none of them plug into the controller, they all work wirelessly with the PS3 system.

A lot of the differences actually do translate into your gaming experience, most notably, the analog sticks and D-pad. The analog sticks on the DualShock 3 use 10-bit analog precision which allows for much more precise levels of accuracy, whereas the 360 controller uses 8-bit analog precision that is tech from last generation and lacks the level of accuracy. The D-pad on the 360 controller is arguably the worst D-pad ever put on a gaming controller, whereas the D-pad on the DualShock 3 is arguably the best D-pad ever put on a gaming controller. Whether it be 2D games, fighting games, changing equipment in Call of Duty or switching between gadgets on the fly in Batman Arkham City, a nice D-pad is invaluable when playing games, and it makes the experience much better.

Additions like pressure sensitive/ analog buttons and D-pad, as well as Sixaxis support are advantages, especially considering the 360 controller doesn't support any of them, or even any alternatives. How could nothing be better than more features? The game that makes best use of them are Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, a game that got a 10 here on Gamespot. I couldn't have picked a better game to utilize such features. The MLB The Show games also use them, as well as Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, Killzone, and a few other PS3 exclusives. The reason multi-plats don't support them is because they try to make games equal across all platforms, and the 360 doesn't offer any of these features.

But you can plug in the PS3 version of a chatpad that, oddly enough, goes on top of the controller. The chatpad on the 360 is great solution for texting, all done on one device held in your hands instead of having to swap between different devices. Ergonomically, I find it a superior solution for texting and supporting a headset that comes with most 360's out of the box.

Like said earlier, the advantages of a more sensitive analog stick is academic. When the rubber meets the road, the difference is minimal. I have no problems with the 360 analog sticks for anything, especially with shooters. On top of that, any advantage the DS3 analog sticks have is negated by the symmetrical stick layout and the size of the controler itself which I find a little too small, leaving my hands cramped during longer play sessions.

Sixaxis? Really? It's use in games is so few and far between that it's virtually inconsequential.

These advantages you list are great on paper, but don't mean much while I'm playing.

[QUOTE="igsmither"]The tech alone in the DS3 makes it the better controller and that is a FACT people.Snugenz

No, its a fact the the PS3 has some better technology, but that does not make it the better controller.

Exactly my point.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

I prefer the offset thumbsticks and the triggers. And You have a nice bullet pointed list, but you have to weigh the impact of each.

I can recharge the 360 controller while the 360 is in sleep mode... after a full recharge, the 360 automatically turns off.

I also like the ability to easily plug things into the 360 controller. The microphone plugs right into the bottom, as does the chatpad, which I use as much as I use my mic. The chatpad even draws power from the controller. The PS3 set doesn't work as smoothely.

Technically, the DS3 battery may be better, but how does that translate to my gaming experience. The 360 controller battery lasts for days with moderate to high usage. The 360's guide button also flashes when it's low on battery.

The pressure sensitive buttons... again, how meaningful is that while playing? I don't see a noticeable difference. It's a nice win for the DS3, but only on paper.

But hey, mileage will vary for each. These little details don't amount to much on either end of the conversation because the controllers work and they're functionally sound. You can nitpick all you want, but the differences aren't significant in real world terms.

Personally, I call it a draw.

VoodooHak

You don't plug keyboards and microphones into the DualShock 3. You can use any bluetooth keyboard or headset and just pair them with the PS3 console, you don't need all these devices plugged into the controller itself. Plugging things into controllers like that is ancient technology, that stuff is last gen. I use a motorola bluetooth headset and an extra bluetooth keyboard and mouse that came with my computer for my PS3, and none of them plug into the controller, they all work wirelessly with the PS3 system.

A lot of the differences actually do translate into your gaming experience, most notably, the analog sticks and D-pad. The analog sticks on the DualShock 3 use 10-bit analog precision which allows for much more precise levels of accuracy, whereas the 360 controller uses 8-bit analog precision that is tech from last generation and lacks the level of accuracy. The D-pad on the 360 controller is arguably the worst D-pad ever put on a gaming controller, whereas the D-pad on the DualShock 3 is arguably the best D-pad ever put on a gaming controller. Whether it be 2D games, fighting games, changing equipment in Call of Duty or switching between gadgets on the fly in Batman Arkham City, a nice D-pad is invaluable when playing games, and it makes the experience much better.

Additions like pressure sensitive/ analog buttons and D-pad, as well as Sixaxis support are advantages, especially considering the 360 controller doesn't support any of them, or even any alternatives. How could nothing be better than more features? The game that makes best use of them are Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, a game that got a 10 here on Gamespot. I couldn't have picked a better game to utilize such features. The MLB The Show games also use them, as well as Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, Killzone, and a few other PS3 exclusives. The reason multi-plats don't support them is because they try to make games equal across all platforms, and the 360 doesn't offer any of these features.

But you can plug in the PS3 version of a chatpad that, oddly enough, goes on top of the controller. The chatpad on the 360 is great solution for texting, all done on one device held in your hands instead of having to swap between different devices. Ergonomically, I find it a superior solution for texting and supporting a headset that comes with most 360's out of the box.

Like said earlier, the advantages of a more sensitive analog stick is academic. When the rubber meets the road, the difference is minimal. I have no problems with the 360 analog sticks for anything, especially with shooters. On top of that, any advantage the DS3 analog sticks have is negated by the symmetrical stick layout and the size of the controler itself which I find a little too small, leaving my hands cramped during longer play sessions.

Sixaxis? Really? It's use in games is so few and far between that it's virtually inconsequential.

These advantages you list are great on paper, but don't mean much while I'm playing.

I can type like 180 words a minute on a keyboard, and probably 20 words a minute max on one of those little chat pads. I'll take the wireless keyboard.

See what that was? It was a subjective opinion, I prefer the keyboard. Does it make it better? No.

You may prefer the 360 controller, but you're missing the point entirely. The fact that you prefer the 360 controller doesn't make all of the objective advantages of the DS3 disappear. How would the position of the analog sticks negate 10-bit analog precision?

This is like comparing a mini-van to a Porsche.

The Porsche is more impressive on paper. It's faster with more torque and horsepower, it handles better, and is overall the more impressive vehicle, but there are tons of people out there who prefer the mini-van. Good luck convincing a die hard mini-van owner that a Porsche is better.

This is like comparing a mini-van to a Porsche.

The Porsche is more impressive on paper. It's faster with more torque and horsepower, it handles better, and is overall the more impressive vehicle, but there are tons of people out there who prefer the mini-van. Good luck convincing a die hard mini-van owner that a Porsche is better.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

This is like comparing a mini-van to a Porsche.

The Porsche is more impressive on paper. It's faster with more torque and horsepower, it handles better, and is overall the more impressive vehicle, but there are tons of people out there who prefer the mini-van. Good luck convincing a die hard mini-van owner that a Porsche is better.

princeofshapeir

Does the fact that a mini-van owner prefers mini-van over Porsche make the Porsche engine disappear?

This is like comparing a mini-van to a Porsche.

The Porsche is more impressive on paper. It's faster with more torque and horsepower, it handles better, and is overall the more impressive vehicle, but there are tons of people out there who prefer the mini-van. Good luck convincing a die hard mini-van owner that a Porsche is better.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

This is like comparing a mini-van to a Porsche.

The Porsche is more impressive on paper. It's faster with more torque and horsepower, it handles better, and is overall the more impressive vehicle, but there are tons of people out there who prefer the mini-van. Good luck convincing a die hard mini-van owner that a Porsche is better.

jessejay420

Actually it is a perfect analogy.

[QUOTE="jessejay420"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

This is like comparing a mini-van to a Porsche.

The Porsche is more impressive on paper. It's faster with more torque and horsepower, it handles better, and is overall the more impressive vehicle, but there are tons of people out there who prefer the mini-van. Good luck convincing a die hard mini-van owner that a Porsche is better.

arkephonic

Actually it is a perfect analogy.

What if someone prefers the comfort of a Geo Metro seat compared to a Lamborghini seat.

Does that make the Geo Metro the better vehicle?

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

This is like comparing a mini-van to a Porsche.

The Porsche is more impressive on paper. It's faster with more torque and horsepower, it handles better, and is overall the more impressive vehicle, but there are tons of people out there who prefer the mini-van. Good luck convincing a die hard mini-van owner that a Porsche is better.

arkephonic

Does the fact that a mini-van owner prefers mini-van over Porsche make the Porsche engine disappear?

What if someone prefers the comfort of a Geo Metro seat compared to a Lamborghini seat.

Does that make the Geo Metro the better vehicle?

arkephonic

What if someone prefers the comfort of a Geo Metro seat compared to a Lamborgini seat.

Does that make the Geo Metro the better vehicle?

arkephonic

What if someone prefers the comfort of a Geo Metro seat compared to a Lamborghini seat.

Does that make the Geo Metro the better vehicle?

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] They're just goddamn controllers. People prefer what their hands fit better in (lol) and for many people that's the 360 controller. Get over it and stop sh!tposting.princeofshapeir

Does the fact that a mini-van owner prefers mini-van over Porsche make the Porsche engine disappear?

So wait, let me guess, if you crashed a Lamborghini, it would be the manufacturer's fault, right? Not yours? That's pretty hilarious that a human being has so little coordination that they can't prevent their thumbs from hitting each other. Funny how I have never once had that issue.

Your entire post was just subjective opinion, no need to respond to it, I just found this part pretty hilarious. Do you have trouble going up and down the stairs too?

The dualshock is a poor controller. My thumbs should not tap each other, and yet they do while playing with a dualshock. Hopefully the PS4 will improve this archaically designed controller.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Does the fact that a mini-van owner prefers mini-van over Porsche make the Porsche engine disappear?

arkephonic

So wait, let me guess, if you crashed a Lamborghini, it would be the manufacturer's fault, right? Not yours? That's pretty hilarious that a human being has so little coordination that they can't prevent their thumbs from hitting each other. Funny how I have never once had that issue.

Your entire post was just subjective opinion, no need to respond to it, I just found this part pretty hilarious. Do you have trouble going up and down the stairs too?

This is like comparing a mini-van to a Porsche.

The Porsche is more impressive on paper. It's faster with more torque and horsepower, it handles better, and is overall the more impressive vehicle, but there are tons of people out there who prefer the mini-van. Good luck convincing a die hard mini-van owner that a Porsche is better.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Second, on comfort, which is totally subjective: the positioning of the analogs on the DS3 and how damn massive they are often results in my thumbs colliding with each other when I strafe right and pan the camera to the left (i.e. move the left thumbstick and right thumbstick toward each other). The positioning of the 360 analogs is therefore much, much better--your thumbs don't collide, the sticks are contoured to your thumbs, and they are smaller. princeofshapeir

So wait, let me guess, if you crashed a Lamborghini, it would be the manufacturer's fault, right? Not yours? That's pretty hilarious that a human being has so little coordination that they can't prevent their thumbs from hitting each other. Funny how I have never once had that issue.

Your entire post was just subjective opinion, no need to respond to it, I just found this part pretty hilarious. Do you have trouble going up and down the stairs too?

Uh oh, someone's angry.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

This is like comparing a mini-van to a Porsche.

The Porsche is more impressive on paper. It's faster with more torque and horsepower, it handles better, and is overall the more impressive vehicle, but there are tons of people out there who prefer the mini-van. Good luck convincing a die hard mini-van owner that a Porsche is better.

igsmither

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

So wait, let me guess, if you crashed a Lamborghini, it would be the manufacturer's fault, right? Not yours? That's pretty hilarious that a human being has so little coordination that they can't prevent their thumbs from hitting each other. Funny how I have never once had that issue.

Your entire post was just subjective opinion, no need to respond to it, I just found this part pretty hilarious. Do you have trouble going up and down the stairs too?

arkephonic

Uh oh, someone's angry.

Won't respond to legit points. Pulls red herrings and resorts to insults to circumvent logic.

Just so we're all clear here, if someone prefers a Geo Metro seat to a Lamborghini seat, that makes the Geo Metro the better vehicle, right?

Just so we're all clear here, if someone prefers a Geo Metro seat to a Lamborghini seat, that makes the Geo Metro the better vehicle, right?

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] You still haven't said a goddamn thing regarding the 360 controller being plug-and-play with PC. Second, I have large hands; I don't have to have impaired coordination to have my thumbs collide because Sony's controller is so damn tiny and the analogs are right next to each other. Implying I'm some dumb klutz is so goddamn funny, especially considering you're the brain-dead idiot who bought a 360 for absolutely no reason and doesn't even use it. Besides, this entire thread is dedicated to subjective opinion. If you're going to ignore the legit points I made that are objective, like plug-and-play and a more natural analog placement, then this only proves that you really are an arrogant prickprinceofshapeir

Uh oh, someone's angry.

Won't respond to legit points. Pulls red herrings and resorts to insults to circumvent logic.

Be honest, bro. Tell us how you really feel. Let it all out.

I like my 360 controller better than my PS3 controller..It simply feels better in "my" hands...

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Uh oh, someone's angry.

arkephonic

Won't respond to legit points. Pulls red herrings and resorts to insults to circumvent logic.

Be honest, bro. Tell us how you really feel. Let it all out.

Okay.

Just so we're all clear here, if someone prefers a Geo Metro seat to a Lamborghini seat, that makes the Geo Metro the better vehicle, right?

arkephonic

I like my 360 controller better than my PS3 controller..It simply feels better in "my" hands...

masiisam

Just so we're all clear here, if someone prefers a Geo Metro seat to a Lamborghini seat, that makes the Geo Metro the better vehicle, right?

arkephonic

Just so we're all clear here, if someone prefers a Geo Metro seat to a Lamborghini seat, that makes the Geo Metro the better vehicle, right?

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Just so we're all clear here, if someone prefers a Geo Metro seat to a Lamborghini seat, that makes the Geo Metro the better vehicle, right?

Another48hours

The 360 controller actually has the advantage with not having the built in rechargeable battery like the PS3. Once the PS3 controller is drained you have to plug in via USB and sit close for awhile. Plus, once the PS3 controller loses it's charge cycle you'll be stuck with using a usb cable for good or keep buying new controllers.. With the 360 you can just get a rechargeable kit and just keep swapping batteries. PS3 controller doesn't give you that luxuary.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Just so we're all clear here, if someone prefers a Geo Metro seat to a Lamborghini seat, that makes the Geo Metro the better vehicle, right?

Another48hours

The 360 controller actually has the advantage with not having the built in rechargeable battery like the PS3. Once the PS3 controller is drained you have to plug in via USB and sit close for awhile. Plus, once the PS3 controller loses it's charge cycle you'll be stuck with using a usb cable for good or keep buying new controllers.. With the 360 you can just get a rechargeable kit and just keep swapping batteries. PS3 controller doesn't give you that luxuary.

BigBadBully

The 360 controller actually has the advantage with not having the built in rechargeable battery like the PS3. Once the PS3 controller is drained you have to plug in via USB and sit close for awhile. Plus, once the PS3 controller loses it's charge cycle you'll be stuck with using a usb cable for good or keep buying new controllers.. With the 360 you can just get a rechargeable kit and just keep swapping batteries. PS3 controller doesn't give you that luxuary.

BigBadBully

You can change the battery in a DualShock 3.

I have large hands and I have never had a problem with my thumbs touching with the ps3 controller. If your thumbs touch, you are probably too stupid to be playing games correctly anyways, considering you don't even know how to hold a simple controller correctly.garrett_duffman

I agree 100%. I am absolutely dumbfounded by this argument. It's beyond my comprehension how a human being can lack those kinds of motor skills.