Little Big Planet: The Official Sticky (9.0 @ GS, LBP Delayed)

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#2153 Bren128
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]A group of muslim players that bought the game when they shouldnt be able to.blitzcloud

I fail to see the issue here really. Is it against the Quran to quote the Quran or something? I don't follow organized religions, so I have no idea.

Yes, it is against the Qu'ran to quote it unless it's a prayer... sadly, these people had the game earlier than us, so instead of getting a patch after release, we are getting a nice delay (and the guy who started all this is playing it, just wanted to add this little note to show how unfair the situation is).

I'm the one considering burning buildings right now.

They may find it offensive, and I respect it. That's what mute is for. You dont like the song? Disable it. But noooo, we have to be open-minded for the closed-minded.

So now we're losing an amazing track because it says two sentences that make reference to ephemeral life, quoting what the singer considers important for it.

And it's not the delay what we are talking about. We are losing a track of music... and I find that very offensive. So do others too. In fact, I think there's more people offended for losing an amazing track for the Africa levels than people that can get offended. Remember, they say it is offensive... offensive for who, for the guy who wrote the message in playstation forums and started all this?

i agree and for one think its ridiculous, one word about anything involving the quran or the religion itself incites rage into the followers. which i think is bs we have to pay for it. freedom of speech for crying out loud

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#2154 PSfanboy101
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when i heard the delay i punched the wall....when are we getting it?

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#2155 ReverseCycology
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when i heard the delay i punched the wall....when are we getting it?

PSfanboy101

They say for NA "it will be shipped to retailers on the week of October 27th" and for other regions to be announced.

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#2156 epic_pets
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A one week delay isn't bad.
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#2157 rockguy92
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Damnit!

How long is it?

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#2158 789shadow
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Damnit!

How long is it?

rockguy92

It's already been said many times,but the answer is one week.

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#2160 Couth_
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I saw the game with my own eyes today at Best Buy. They advertised it to come out the 14th then when I asked the lady had it in her hands, perhaps to check in the merchandise, or maybe for the recall? But said it comes out the 21st. Didn't expect to see a delay :?

Interestingly enough in these situations, theres plenty of people who already have the retail game

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#2161 ReverseCycology
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Damnit!

How long is it?

rockguy92

For North America "it'll be shipping to retail within the week of October 27" for other regions like Europe, etc. to be announced.

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my local gamestore got the game very early this week and were selling it for the normal retail price of $59.00(plus tax)

once the manager of the store got a phone about the recent news..price went up $10 bucks :wink:

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#2163 munu9
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i agree and for one think its ridiculous, one word about anything involving the quran or the religion itself incites rage into the followers. which i think is bs we have to pay for it. freedom of speech for crying out loud

Bren128

I think we can all agree: This is somewhat unfair and totally sucks

Seriously, I know sony is doing this to avoid lawsuits but I bet they could have defeated that lawsuit on the ground of free speech in music.

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#2164 verbtex  Moderator
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Although It's not the greatest news, it is alright.

I certainly don't want to be buying a game that offends anyone.

So, my reason for wait is justified, even though I would really have loved to have it earlier.

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#2165 Pro_wrestler
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Its only a week...........Had it been like a month or so then I would be pissed.
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Did they take off the marathon link off the front page? I can't seem to locate it.
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Actually guys, you would happen to know that this was not offensive to Islam and I explain this in details in my blog. BTW I'm a Muslim and I know my religion enough to know when it's being offended. I think it's important to take 2 mins to read my blog post to understand enough about it from a Muslim's point of view before developing any hate.
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A group of muslim players that bought the game when they shouldnt be able to.blitzcloud
don't be so rude please.

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Actually guys, you would happen to know that this was not offensive to Islam and I explain this in details in my blog. BTW I'm a Muslim and I know my religion enough to know when it's being offended. I think it's important to take 2 mins to read my blog post to understand enough about it from a Muslim's point of view before developing any hate.lebanese_boy
if a videogame delay can spark "hate", we have much bigger problems than we thought.
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[QUOTE="rockguy92"]

Damnit!

How long is it?

ReverseCycology

For North America "it'll be shipping to retail within the week of October 27" for other regions like Europe, etc. to be announced.

God dammit. Bet SCEE is gonna ruin everything as usual. Perhaps we'll get it early next year.

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[QUOTE="blitzcloud"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]A group of muslim players that bought the game when they shouldnt be able to.nintendo-4life

I fail to see the issue here really. Is it against the Quran to quote the Quran or something? I don't follow organized religions, so I have no idea.

Yes, it is against the Qu'ran to quote it unless it's a prayer... sadly, these people had the game earlier than us, so instead of getting a patch after release, we are getting a nice delay (and the guy who started all this is playing it, just wanted to add this little note to show how unfair the situation is).

I'm the one considering burning buildings right now.

They may find it offensive, and I respect it. That's what mute is for. You dont like the song? Disable it. But noooo, we have to be open-minded for the closed-minded.

So now we're losing an amazing track because it says two sentences that make reference to ephemeral life, quoting what the singer considers important for it.

And it's not the delay what we are talking about. We are losing a track of music... and I find that very offensive. So do others too. In fact, I think there's more people offended for losing an amazing track for the Africa levels than people that can get offended. Remember, they say it is offensive... offensive for who, for the guy who wrote the message in playstation forums and started all this?

yeah let's take some white guy calling all black peopl n****s (with all due respect). and see how that goes!

Islam doesn't support music, and thus putting it an a musical soundtrack is somewhat of an insult

plz, stfu

im also islam, and i dont take to kind to people who make fun of my religion.

i honeestly dont give a damn about this music issue, but others do (im not the most religous person)

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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]A group of muslim players that bought the game when they shouldnt be able to.Faulttt

I fail to see the issue here really. Is it against the Quran to quote the Quran or something? I don't follow organized religions, so I have no idea.

Yes, it is against the Qu'ran to quote it unless it's a prayer... sadly, these people had the game earlier than us, so instead of getting a patch after release, we are getting a nice delay (and the guy who started all this is playing it, just wanted to add this little note to show how unfair the situation is).

I'm the one considering burning buildings right now.

They may find it offensive, and I respect it. That's what mute is for. You dont like the song? Disable it. But noooo, we have to be open-minded for the closed-minded.

So now we're losing an amazing track because it says two sentences that make reference to ephemeral life, quoting what the singer considers important for it.

And it's not the delay what we are talking about. We are losing a track of music... and I find that very offensive. So do others too. In fact, I think there's more people offended for losing an amazing track for the Africa levels than people that can get offended. Remember, they say it is offensive... offensive for who, for the guy who wrote the message in playstation forums and started all this?

yeah let's take some white guy calling all black peopl n****s (with all due respect). and see how that goes!

Islam doesn't support music, and thus putting it an a musical soundtrack is somewhat of an insult

plz, stfu

im also islam, and i dont take to kind to people who make fun of my religion.

i honeestly dont give a damn about this music issue, but others do (im not the most religous person)

i don't either... what's the problem here? :|
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#2174 Dreams-Visions
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they just need to patch it or whatever they're going to do. and people need to stop moaning about it.
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#2175 Giancar
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my local gamestore got the game very early this week and were selling it for the normal retail price of $59.00(plus tax)

once the manager of the store got a phone about the recent news..price went up $10 bucks :wink:

lawlessx

I wonder how much could those copies do in ebay? mmm

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[QUOTE="Faulttt"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]A group of muslim players that bought the game when they shouldnt be able to.nintendo-4life

I fail to see the issue here really. Is it against the Quran to quote the Quran or something? I don't follow organized religions, so I have no idea.

Yes, it is against the Qu'ran to quote it unless it's a prayer... sadly, these people had the game earlier than us, so instead of getting a patch after release, we are getting a nice delay (and the guy who started all this is playing it, just wanted to add this little note to show how unfair the situation is).

I'm the one considering burning buildings right now.

They may find it offensive, and I respect it. That's what mute is for. You dont like the song? Disable it. But noooo, we have to be open-minded for the closed-minded.

So now we're losing an amazing track because it says two sentences that make reference to ephemeral life, quoting what the singer considers important for it.

And it's not the delay what we are talking about. We are losing a track of music... and I find that very offensive. So do others too. In fact, I think there's more people offended for losing an amazing track for the Africa levels than people that can get offended. Remember, they say it is offensive... offensive for who, for the guy who wrote the message in playstation forums and started all this?

yeah let's take some white guy calling all black peopl n****s (with all due respect). and see how that goes!

Islam doesn't support music, and thus putting it an a musical soundtrack is somewhat of an insult

plz, stfu

im also islam, and i dont take to kind to people who make fun of my religion.

i honeestly dont give a damn about this music issue, but others do (im not the most religous person)

i don't either... what's the problem here? :|

dont make fun of islam

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#2177 InsaneBasura
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This all seems like a bit of an overreactaton to me. On the part of the muslim guy I don't know as I'm 98% ignorant of what actually is offensive to muslims. But recalling all copies worldwide seems a bit much doesn't it? The guy himself only requested a patch, despite being deeply offended for whatever reason.

Why oh why did these people have to get the game early? :(

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#2178 Jack_Bauer07
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="rockguy92"]

Damnit!

How long is it?

InsaneBasura

For North America "it'll be shipping to retail within the week of October 27" for other regions like Europe, etc. to be announced.

God dammit. Bet SCEE is gonna ruin everything as usual. Perhaps we'll get it early next year.

EU release is Oct. 31st.

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#2179 nintendo-4life
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dont make fun of islam

Faulttt
how did i make fun of islam?
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#2180 CStheGreat
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"Islam doesn't support music."

"I am Islam...."

"I am also Islam."

Do you guys even read what you're writing? Anyways, it's a bummer that this happened. I'm guessing Sony wanted to play it safe and go the "professional" route in order to avoid any sort of religious backlash. I really think this could have been effectively resolved through a patch but it looks like Sony wanted a "permanent" fix. Still, the delay in itself will create backlash from gamers eagerly awaiting the game's release. I hope this doesn't hurt sales as it will inevitably stur up confusion, controversy, and hate towards LBP.

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#2181 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="rockguy92"]

Damnit!

How long is it?

Jack_Bauer07

For North America "it'll be shipping to retail within the week of October 27" for other regions like Europe, etc. to be announced.

God dammit. Bet SCEE is gonna ruin everything as usual. Perhaps we'll get it early next year.

EU release is Oct. 31st.

Who said such things? I bet it wasn't SCEE.

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#2182 nintendo-4life
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"Islam doesn't support music."

"I am Islam...."

"I am also Islam."

Do you guys even read what you're writing? Anyways, it's a bummer that this happened. I'm guessing Sony wanted to play it safe and go the "professional" route in order to avoid any sort of religious backlash. I really think this could have been effectively resolved through a patch but it looks like Sony wanted a "permanent" fix. Still, the delay in itself will create backlash from gamers eagerly awaiting the game's release. I hope this doesn't hurt sales as it will inevitably stur up confusion, controversy, and hate towards LBP.

CStheGreat

it is true though, islam doesn't support music.. :|

but i've never said i am islam.. that's just wrong :o

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#2183 Jack_Bauer07
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[QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="rockguy92"]

Damnit!

How long is it?

InsaneBasura

For North America "it'll be shipping to retail within the week of October 27" for other regions like Europe, etc. to be announced.

God dammit. Bet SCEE is gonna ruin everything as usual. Perhaps we'll get it early next year.

EU release is Oct. 31st.

Who said such things? I bet it wasn't SCEE.

Link

Seems legit to me.

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#2184 killerfist
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was it Sony's call btw. the recall/delay? or is it up to the different countries to make a decision?

if it's the later option, then I'm still holding on the regular release date. Netherlands isn't usually very carefull with this kind of stuff (censorship)

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#2185 InsaneBasura
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Link

Seems legit to me.

Jack_Bauer07

Eh...I dunno bout that. They're supposed to have printed out this flyer when this thing blew up just now? This obscure site is the only one to have gotten this information? If Sony knew the EU date they would surely have mentioned it in their blog post.

Oh never mind, they say they edited the mailshot, and the date is apparently taken out of thin air.

the title has simply been pushed-back to its originally suggested release date; 31st October 2008. In order to prevent any unwanted discomfort for all parties involved, Electronic Theatrehas seen fit to slightly edit the mailshot featured below.

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#2186 lantus
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Has anyone else who preordered at GameStop, got a call saying the game should be arriving shortly? I did earlier today.
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#2187 rockguy92
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Has anyone else who preordered at GameStop, got a call saying the game should be arriving shortly? I did earlier today.lantus

I got a call saying it was delayed.

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#2188 lantus
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[QUOTE="lantus"]Has anyone else who preordered at GameStop, got a call saying the game should be arriving shortly? I did earlier today.rockguy92

I got a call saying it was delayed.

Haha, this is turning out to be quite a bad luanch, I guess I'll still give it a try on Tuesday and see if I can get my copy. :P
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Im annoyed and offended guys :( why do you say this is a ridiculous reason?

It is a quote from the "Holy" Quran, people quote from the Quran when ever they like but it can't be mixed with music, that's the catch.

*leaves disappointed*

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Im annoyed and offended guys :( why do you say this is a ridiculous reason?

It is a quote from the "Holy" Quran, people quote from the Quran when ever they like but it can't be mixed with music, that's the catch.

*leaves disappointed*

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honestly, you couldn't expect anything more than what you see here. sadly.
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#2191 lantus
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Im annoyed and offended guys :( why do you say this is a ridiculous reason?

It is a quote from the "Holy" Quran, people quote from the Quran when ever they like but it can't be mixed with music, that's the catch.

*leaves disappointed*

HAZE-Unit

None of that really bothers me, but what does is that all of this could have been avoided, but no, they've got to fix this four days before the game releases, BS.

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#2192 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Im annoyed and offended guys :( why do you say this is a ridiculous reason?

It is a quote from the "Holy" Quran, people quote from the Quran when ever they like but it can't be mixed with music, that's the catch.

*leaves disappointed*

Dreams-Visions

honestly, you couldn't expect anything more than what you see here. sadly.

You know it is 2008, I expected more civilized discussion than "this is ridiculous" and "the open-minded have to wait for the close-minded" *sigh*

Thanks Dreams for your civilized talking as always :)

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I want to know what is going to happen to the people that have the original copy of the game i am suppose to get it tomorrow so we will see i guess.
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#2194 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Im annoyed and offended guys :( why do you say this is a ridiculous reason?

It is a quote from the "Holy" Quran, people quote from the Quran when ever they like but it can't be mixed with music, that's the catch.

*leaves disappointed*

lantus

None of that really bothers me, but what does is that all of this could have been avoided, but no, they've got to fix this four days before the game releases, BS.

Yea I know what you mean, but I didn't hear the words until this complaint, I thought it was like any other african song that nobody can understand anything about the lyrics but when I played the game to check if it was BS from the complainer or not I heard the exact same words from Quran.

What I meant by that, it was really hard to listen to what the singer was saying so maybe Sony didn't catch the words.

And they can't release it without perma deleting the song, because alot of muslims like any other countries doesn't have Internet connection to download the patch for example.

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#2195 HAZE-Unit
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I want to know what is going to happen to the people that have the original copy of the game i am suppose to get it tomorrow so we will see i guess.njean777

I have it and I don't know if Sony will make a patch or something?

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#2196 njean777
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[QUOTE="njean777"]I want to know what is going to happen to the people that have the original copy of the game i am suppose to get it tomorrow so we will see i guess.HAZE-Unit

I have it and I don't know if Sony will make a patch or something?

Yeah i just read they have a patch already ready but they recalled them because sony said not everybody has an internet connection so im glad.

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#2197 lantus
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[QUOTE="njean777"]I want to know what is going to happen to the people that have the original copy of the game i am suppose to get it tomorrow so we will see i guess.HAZE-Unit

I have it and I don't know if Sony will make a patch or something?

I doubt it will be patched, if this were discovered during the ratings process, it could have some involvement in what it would be rated, so it's either to take back all the copies or get an even longer delay and get reevaluated by the ESRB.

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[QUOTE="njean777"]I want to know what is going to happen to the people that have the original copy of the game i am suppose to get it tomorrow so we will see i guess.njean777

I have it and I don't know if Sony will make a patch or something?

Yeah i just read they have a patch already ready but they recalled them because sony said not everybody has an internet connection so im glad.

Yea thats more like it.

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#2199 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="njean777"]I want to know what is going to happen to the people that have the original copy of the game i am suppose to get it tomorrow so we will see i guess.lantus

I have it and I don't know if Sony will make a patch or something?

I doubt it will be patched, if this were discovered during the ratings process, it could have some involvement in what it would be rated, so it's either to take back all the copies or get an even longer delay and get reevaluated by the ESRB.

Thats also a possibility, I hope the delay won't take long.

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^^everybody jump haze for having the game while we can't get it.