LOL. SE releases FAQ for their Tomb Raider PR nightmare

You have provided evidence of why you are personally wary of SE. No evidence that they are in fact guilty of what you claim in the case of RotTR. Since this isn't a court of law I used the term proof. I never said I have a law degree, I said I have studied. You jump to many conclusions without facts it seems.

For the sake of argument I have made my peace with this back and forth. You told someone no money from the deal will be put into the game rise of the tomb raider and he is sadly mistaken if he believes so. Where is your proof/evidence/links whatever spin you want to put on it to try avoid simply admitting your statement was opinionated, non fact based bullshit. No, rational people will agree if you have no fact based evidence/proof/links to back up your statement then you are coming to this conclusion without relevant information, hence conjecture. If you wish to lie to yourself about winning something by all means. The fact is you made a statement and cant provide anything to back up that particular statement. Now you admit you need a time machine to provide exactly what SE will do with the money, but you stated it all knowingly at the start? Nice backpedal big winner

Tell that to infamous

Yep, I'm aware of all that, and even linked to that Gamespot article earlier in this very thread. That's why I asked the question. It seems that SE made an impression when they announced disappointment with the first week sales (even though it was the highest in the franchise history), but the follow up when it turned out good didn't get nearly as much notice.

Lol, and all this for a mediocre franchise, honestly, people should cry if more relevant games were exclusive, but damn, Tomb Raider? really? and above all...is a timed exclusive? pretty pathethic move for MS (they should have tried with a more relevant game like FFXV or MGSV) but sadly, even more pathethic for gamers for making such a huge deal out of this.

Got more AAAs than you do, lem.

Have fun with Soda Drinker Pro and Goat Simulator.

Aw cows still mad that insomniac 'betrayed them'. Soda drinker pro will certainly have better gameplay than the next uncharted unless you use 3D glasses maybe.

yes, an unproven new IP from a dev that hasn't really produced anything great in over a decade (recent Ratchet games have mostly been miss, the Resistance games were mishandled) is certainly going to beat Uncharted 4.

can you at least try?

Insomniac is also making a Ratchet and Clank game on PS4. Try harder. :)

Why don't you scroll back and look for yourself at how disappointed cows are about the exclusivity its all there in the threads, just stating the obvious!

@GrenadeLauncher I don't need to try harder Ratchet and clank series tired itself out. It's time for something fresh and innovative unlike Uncharted, but you keep hyping that up by all means! I love QTE.

@-Damien-: Or that PS fans are whiny bitches.

How do you make people care about a franchise that was getting zero press? Make it a timed exclusive.

So its coming to PC then? Ok thats good to know.

I don't really play the series. I have exactly one game from TR. The first on the Saturn. But the series is established and some people do like it. Certainly not everyone cares about the game. Even in this instance I don't think it's due to love of the game. But it IS a precedent that should be challenged. Consumers CAN change things. Look at how much MS flip flopped after E3 2013. I don't want games to go to the highest bidder. I don't want console manufacturers to not put time, money, and effort into their own IPs. If we are gong to do that.....then have a standard system that various manufacturers can create like other entertainment hardware and be done with it. No more competing consoles.

Steal? It's just business. No one is stealing anything.

Dramatic fanboys are dramatic.

I bet some users here would actually die if they knew what actually goes on in business.

It's built on second party deals with developers.

Yes past history is evidence in this context how many times do I have to tell you this? Under your rationality A drug addict has the same chance of doing drugs as some random person that has never done drugs which is absurd. There is a little thing called common sense you seem to be lacking.

I don't trust SE because of their past history that isn't just some random feeling, I'm looking at a trend and making an obvious call. That's not just some felling pulled out of thin air with nothing to back it it has a base. If you honestly can't see the difference wow....that's just sad.......

See, this is what I don't like about Microsoft. They know all they have is a bunch of brodude shooters and a racing sim. They need something new to compete against Uncharted and Last of Us. So what do they do? Take a in house team and build a new epic franchise from scratch? Of course not, they do as they've always done. Throw money on third parties for 'timed exlusives'. Microsoft will never learn.

@Shielder7: Yes past history is evidence in this context how many times do I have to tell you this? Under your rationality A drug addict has the same chance of doing drugs as some random person that has never done drugs which is absurd. There is a little thing called common sense you seem to be lacking.

I don't trust SE because of their past history that isn't just some random feeling, I'm looking at a trend and making an obvious call. That's not just some felling pulled out of thin air with nothing to back it it has a base. If you honestly can't see the difference wow....that's just sad.......

How many times do I have to point out your personal apprehension about a person or company is not irrefutable proof? Can you show me evidence/proof/links backing up what you originally said regarding SE and the development of rise of the Tomb Raider?

You are hesitant to believe them, I respect that. But I respect views, or opinions. You did not state it as such. You told someone they are sadly mistaken for believing different, yet provide no proof/evidence/links in This context. Only past reference. While there are quotes that I posted to the opposite.

If you gave $20 to a complete Drug Addict or Alcoholic and you told me that he wasn't going to spend that money on Drugs or Alcohol I would tell you you were sadly mistaken as well and would most likely be right, in fact majority of people would be surprised if he didn't because of the evidence of past history.

The quotes you provided were PR BS at it's finest, much like PR BS of TR being a real exclusive to the X1, their wording and actions are very vague with the whole situation, no one in their right mined is going to believe a word they say. Evidence of past history is still evidence regardless if you accept that or not, you cannot just omit something because it doesn't fit your argument, so like I said before #Dealwithit

You know who's PR is really vague in this matter?

I'll give you a guess. Starts with an S ends with an Y.

Who is PR?

Amusing you mean Sony what makes you think they actually know anything?

It's not in their best interest to keep this a secret.

Is it a secret? Or is it smart PR?

I wouldn't say anything. They are playing this perfect. They don't have to say if it is or if it isn't coming.

Trust me Sony knows what games are going to be on their platform. SE is not withholding info from Sony. Their relationship benefits both parties.

They are if MS told them they had to. Much like their inability to tell us how long the contract is attached to that big bag of money they got. Obviously if SE cannot or won't say than either Sony doesn't know or is unable to say.

If SE cannot say what makes you think Sony can? Not saying anything on the matter is probably the only play they got ATM.

@Shielder7: If you gave $20 to a complete Drug Addict or Alcoholic and you told me that he wasn't going to spend that money on Drugs or Alcohol I would tell you you were sadly mistaken as well and would most likely be right, in fact majority of people would be surprised if he didn't because of the evidence of past history.

So Alcoholics/narcotics anonymous is fake? Robert Downey Jr is still an active drug addict when evidence to his working and using the 12 step program which has been heralded as humanity's greatest creation of the 20th century are lies? These people are guilty forever because they were at a certain situation? Don't go there dude.

You posted a STATEMENT. I questioned its validity, and your response was past issues. Nothing in regards to the CURRENT deal with MS. As I have repeatedly said, feel how you want about SE, but that is not evidence nor proof they are guilty in this instance which you claimed in your reply to another user. Your reply was complete opinion/conjecture and you keep trying to spin it to be fact. Fail.

It is the smart play. There is no win, win situation for the Sony PR department at this time. It's either a game that won't come out for 1-6 months on their platform, or not at all.

Saying nothing is sometimes the best defense.

Right. If MS has a deal with SE then Sony doesn't know anything at this point.

@lostrib: have you read our whole back and forth? Its quite funny.

Makes sense. It was relatively confusing, and there was a whole lotta bitchin'.

@Shielder7: The quotes you provided were PR BS at it's finest, much like PR BS of TR being a real exclusive to the X1, their wording and actions are very vague with the whole situation, no one in their right mined is going to believe a word they say. Evidence of past history is still evidence regardless if you accept that or not, you cannot just omit something because it doesn't fit your argument, so like I said before #Dealwithit

And I'll say again, nothing to deal with. Your feelings of wariness or hesitancy towards SE have no bearing on my gaming life. They're your feelings, not mine.

I also said after quoting Spencer, whether that is true or not is beyond me. I am grounded in the fact that I don't know. You however posted a statement that was telling another they are wrong for thinking differently. I said provide proof. You showed me something from the past. Does the past hold weight when others point out Sony's lawsuit loss regarding DRE? Should we never buy a console from Sony again?

Your argument is personal feelings towards SE, and NO concrete evidence in the instance of the Rise of the Tomb Raider deal. I'll stand by and wait if you wish.

My argument is based on the past history and actions of SE as far as that goes I have no personal feelings towards them why would I? Past history and actions are considered evidence in this context If you cannot see that we have nothing more to discuss on the matter.

I never said the Drug Addict / Alcoholic was in AA, recovery or even trying to get better.....

@Shielder7: If you gave $20 to a complete Drug Addict or Alcoholic and you told me that he wasn't going to spend that money on Drugs or Alcohol I would tell you you were sadly mistaken as well and would most likely be right, in fact majority of people would be surprised if he didn't because of the evidence of past history.

That's what you said. Why would anyone to an alcoholic/drug addict that is active? What relevance does that have to you stating SE will not spend the money given them on Rise of the TR? Show me the evidence pertaining to the statement younmade about the current situation, or in layman terms, rise of the tomb Raider deal with MS in 2014. I'm patient.

The only thing you have is personal apprehension, which is feelings, based on prior issues of un trust worthy ness with SE. There is no evidence thus far they are doing the same with THIS deal. If so, please post it. So like I said in the beginning, man gets caught in stolen car in past, is he guilty of grand theft auto EVERYTIME he is seen in a car afterwards? No. But YOU can be wary of him, which is a feeling of apprehension, but not a fact.

How is a Dead Rising clone fresh and innovative, lem?