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#51 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="Slambo86"]

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be a total MGS4 rip off? I can so see Sam going through this aging and emotional stage....the game was obvious halted for the fact that it looked like garbage early on, compared to 4. (once ubi had a chance to play mgs4 ;)

convictions will focuse more greatly in characters...willing to bet Sam will have a battle with a strong and well developed boss.ALA snake with Ocelot/liquid.

can't wait to see the cheesy/love scenes in this game and just the added emotional factors. Don't get me wrong i enjoy the SC games, GAMEPLAY-WISE..but the story for the majority of them were terrible..with the typical CIA BS. Anyhow..should be interesting.

I think you're confused...Splinter Cell has always been a better game, IMO...See what I said there? A better game.... MGS is just a movie.
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[QUOTE="Slambo86"]

(convictions)

be a total MGS4 rip off? I can so see Sam going through this aging and emotional stage....the game was obvious halted for the fact that it looked like garbage early on, compared to 4. (once ubi had a chance to play mgs4 ;)

convictions will focuse more greatly in characters...willing to bet Sam will have a battle with a strong and well developed boss.ALA snake with Ocelot/liquid.

can't wait to see the cheesy/love scenes in this game and just the added emotional factors. Don't get me wrong i enjoy the SC games, GAMEPLAY-WISE..but the story for the majority of them were terrible..with the typical CIA BS. Anyhow..should be interesting.

MortalDecay

I think you're confused...Splinter Cell has always been a better game, IMO...See what I said there? A better game.... MGS is just a movie.

yes, of course it is:roll: if the cutscenes are too long for you then skip them, its not like you'd understand the story anyway.

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Well it's a known fact MGS4 looks bad and plays bad so Conviction should be better.Englandfc1966

:lol: where did you get that from, MGS4 doesnt look or play bad.

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#54 Solid_Tango
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It's called splinter cell and IMO it's better than MGS .Gun_N_Run-_-
Your opinion is wrong. On topic i belive splinter cell will be something totally different hopefully it will be a good game( it has been in development far more than mgs4)
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Slambo86"]

(convictions)

be a total MGS4 rip off? I can so see Sam going through this aging and emotional stage....the game was obvious halted for the fact that it looked like garbage early on, compared to 4. (once ubi had a chance to play mgs4 ;)

convictions will focuse more greatly in characters...willing to bet Sam will have a battle with a strong and well developed boss.ALA snake with Ocelot/liquid.

can't wait to see the cheesy/love scenes in this game and just the added emotional factors. Don't get me wrong i enjoy the SC games, GAMEPLAY-WISE..but the story for the majority of them were terrible..with the typical CIA BS. Anyhow..should be interesting.

idontbeliveit

I think you're confused...Splinter Cell has always been a better game, IMO...See what I said there? A better game.... MGS is just a movie.

yes, of course it is:roll: if the cutscenes are too long for you then skip them, its not like you'd understand the story anyway.

It's not like the story is difficult to understand.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="idontbeliveit"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"] I think you're confused...Splinter Cell has always been a better game, IMO...See what I said there? A better game.... MGS is just a movie.

yes, of course it is:roll: if the cutscenes are too long for you then skip them, its not like you'd understand the story anyway.

It's not like the story is difficult to understand.

no not for everyone, only for certain lems who judge games by their cutscene lengths. or of course for those who didnt play the other 3 MGSs.
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#57 DeckardLee
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I'd take typical CIA bull**** over typical anime bull**** with no direction.AAllxxjjnn

My God, I couldn't agree with this more.

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#58 PAL360
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So TC, dont you have nothing more to do with your life other than making 360 bashing threads day after day?

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#59 Next-Gen-Tec
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So TC, dont you have nothing more to do with your life other than making 360 bashing threads day after day?

PAL360
Not only that, bashing threads over his own - probably made up - speculation
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Interesting, and you think that based on what exactly?
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#61 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="kingdre"]

Splinter Smell... that's cute. :roll:

It's the only game that does stealth better than MGS imo.

AAllxxjjnn

I'd also go as far to say Thief does stealth better than MGS as well.

Yeah, Splinter Cell does modern stealth much much better than MGS... Although, Splinter Cell Double Agent ruined that trend. However, Chaos Theory had amazing stealth gameplay.


I still loved MGS4 though, and I'm waiting for MGS5. :)

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Interesting, and you think that based on what exactly?IronBass
*looks to see who made the thread (Slambo)* I'll bet between a fanboyish hunch or absolutely nothing.
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

No one, including the developers, makes the comparison between MGS and SC except for a few insecure fanboys on an internet forum.

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More than "insecure fanboys" compare and contrast the two (and other titles in the sub-genre). It's only natural. Kojima even gave a nod to Ubi for placing an identical model of Sam in a MGS3 teaser trailer as an easter egg of sorts.

Sam Fisher fights Raiden 8)

That was great. Thanks.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="kingdre"]

Splinter Smell... that's cute. :roll:

It's the only game that does stealth better than MGS imo.

DragonfireXZ95

I'd also go as far to say Thief does stealth better than MGS as well.

Yeah, Splinter Cell does modern stealth much much better than MGS... Although, Splinter Cell Double Agent ruined that trend. However, Chaos Theory had amazing stealth gameplay.


I still loved MGS4 though, and I'm waiting for MGS5. :)

Yeah. But I wanna see a modern stealth game with likeness and realism based on intelligence and personalities within CIA and/or MI6. Nothing Hollywood like James Bond though. More like Confessions of a Dangerous Mind :D.

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[QUOTE="CAlNlAC"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

I'm love the MGS series but SC has always beat the MGS series when it comes to gamplay. While the MGS series always beat the SC series in terms of story and characters (excpet MGS4 story was rather weak compared to MS2,3 and 1.

Yeah thats pretty much exactly the way I feel too.

exactly, and when the review comes out we will see that acording to gs story > gameplay :P but then again thats why i dont go by review scores anymore, i go by videos and then demoes(if it interests me) it seems like most sites now have some fanboys that rate alot of good games low(mp3, forza series, mario kart series, many others i dant think of atm) and ok-good games through the roof(ie gta4 mgs4 halo,gt series, just to name a few) but thats the wonderful world of opinions even if they seem biased
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] I'd also go as far to say Thief does stealth better than MGS as well.Episode_Eve

Yeah, Splinter Cell does modern stealth much much better than MGS... Although, Splinter Cell Double Agent ruined that trend. However, Chaos Theory had amazing stealth gameplay.


I still loved MGS4 though, and I'm waiting for MGS5. :)

Yeah. But I wanna see a modern stealth game with likeness and realism based on intelligence and personalities within CIA and/or MI6. Nothing Hollywood like James Bond though. More like Confessions of a Dangerous Mind :D.

OMG that would be amazing :o. MGS may not be realistic, but octo-camo is innovative and cool for gaming. It's sci-fi after all ;) But I think Splinter Cell will definitely be realistic. I'm very eager to see what's up with it.

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it seems poor cow is jealous. Splinter cell has always been a better stealth game then mgs. SC Conviction looked fantastic when it was shown before. it is not copying anything. Sam Fisher was a convict at the end of DA

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] I'd also go as far to say Thief does stealth better than MGS as well.Episode_Eve

Yeah, Splinter Cell does modern stealth much much better than MGS... Although, Splinter Cell Double Agent ruined that trend. However, Chaos Theory had amazing stealth gameplay.


I still loved MGS4 though, and I'm waiting for MGS5. :)

Yeah. But I wanna see a modern stealth game with likeness and realism based on intelligence and personalities within CIA and/or MI6. Nothing Hollywood like James Bond though. More like Confessions of a Dangerous Mind :D.

Something like Confessions would be too awesome. Would we be able to run a game show as well?

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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Yeah, Splinter Cell does modern stealth much much better than MGS... Although, Splinter Cell Double Agent ruined that trend. However, Chaos Theory had amazing stealth gameplay.


I still loved MGS4 though, and I'm waiting for MGS5. :)

Kicker_of_Cans

Yeah. But I wanna see a modern stealth game with likeness and realism based on intelligence and personalities within CIA and/or MI6. Nothing Hollywood like James Bond though. More like Confessions of a Dangerous Mind :D.

Something like Confessions would be too awesome. Would we be able to run a game show as well?

That would be sweet all around. We'd have too if that's the case.

Or something original and clever would be even better.

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#70 PC360Wii
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There's your dilmea. MGS should naver have scored 10, more of an 8.5 IMO. and that's being generous. The extra 1.5 was given by reviewers carried away on the hype train.

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how can a game score higher due to hype? Reviewers play the game and the majority scored it very high. Hype doesn't make you like a game that isn't good...wtf, kind of a logic is that? MGS4 isn't everyones game..obviously. but that doesn't mean it sucks..different tastes. Too bad for you, the majority love it to death and the scores show this.

MSG4 is further proof that graphics and presentation seem to mean more than actual gaming these days. care to explain how I'm wrong?
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Yeah, Splinter Cell does modern stealth much much better than MGS... Although, Splinter Cell Double Agent ruined that trend. However, Chaos Theory had amazing stealth gameplay.


I still loved MGS4 though, and I'm waiting for MGS5. :)

Kicker_of_Cans

Yeah. But I wanna see a modern stealth game with likeness and realism based on intelligence and personalities within CIA and/or MI6. Nothing Hollywood like James Bond though. More like Confessions of a Dangerous Mind :D.

Something like Confessions would be too awesome. Would we be able to run a game show as well?

--- Confessions would be a really cool concept. Make it set up like Alan Wake. You do different things spanning across multiple episodes :D.

--- Or with how popular urban warfare and the middle east is Body of Lies could be cool :).

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If the Splinter Cell can give its fans a great fan chapter like MGS4 did for its fans, I don't see an issue if there are similarities between SC and MGS.[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Someone is jealous. ;) Splinter Cell is back and the MP is going to be way better then MGO.

Uh.... that's not saying much.
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[QUOTE="Slambo86"][QUOTE="RocKtheCasbaH"]

There's your dilmea. MGS should naver have scored 10, more of an 8.5 IMO. and that's being generous. The extra 1.5 was given by reviewers carried away on the hype train.

PC360Wii

how can a game score higher due to hype? Reviewers play the game and the majority scored it very high. Hype doesn't make you like a game that isn't good...wtf, kind of a logic is that? MGS4 isn't everyones game..obviously. but that doesn't mean it sucks..different tastes. Too bad for you, the majority love it to death and the scores show this.

MSG4 is further proof that graphics and presentation seem to mean more than actual gaming these days. care to explain how I'm wrong?

That's where you're wrong because MGS4 encompassing package is superb. Presentation, story, and gampeplay. The gameplay is the best it's ever been and is not only a fun as hell, but provides dozens of new mechanics/ideas to the franchise. Going by popular opinion from credible sources and the community that is.

GS Review: "Metal Gear Solid 4 is an awe-inspiring synthesis of dramatic storytelling and entertaining gameplay."

They even gave it an 'Outstanding Gameplay" medal.

-- Not one source is good enough though, so how about me too lol? I'm sure if you tried, you can find many quotes similar to the previous. Have you played the game in it's entirety?

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Umm "Tom Clancy's" Splinter Cell pretty much guarantees that it wont have some Anime beyond insane story. Id rather have a techno CIA super secret orginization story then a soap opera. I like SC's gameplay alot more too since its actually based on sneaking.

Ohh and i think its safe to say everyone knows by now you just like to troll.

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--- Confessions would be a really cool concept. Make it set up like Alan Wake. You do different things spanning across multiple episodes :D.

--- Or with how popular urban warfare and the middle east is Body of Lies could be cool :).

TREAL_Since

That wouldn't be a bad idea. Another concept that would be cool, but also controversal, would be something like Traitor. In which you're undercover in a terrorist group, actually having to do terrorist acts.

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[QUOTE="Englandfc1966"]Well it's a known fact MGS4 looks bad and plays bad so Conviction should be better.idontbeliveit

:lol: where did you get that from, MGS4 doesnt look or play bad.

You're obviously a fanboy if you think MGS4 doesn't look bad. It's also boring, I nearly cried at the end because it just dragged on.
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[QUOTE="Slambo86"]

(convictions)

be a total MGS4 rip off? I can so see Sam going through this aging and emotional stage....the game was obvious halted for the fact that it looked like garbage early on, compared to 4. (once ubi had a chance to play mgs4 ;)

convictions will focuse more greatly in characters...willing to bet Sam will have a battle with a strong and well developed boss.ALA snake with Ocelot/liquid.

can't wait to see the cheesy/love scenes in this game and just the added emotional factors. Don't get me wrong i enjoy the SC games, GAMEPLAY-WISE..but the story for the majority of them were terrible..with the typical CIA BS. Anyhow..should be interesting.

CIA BS? But people who shoot lightning, bees, crawl like bugs, can't be hit by bullets, Vampires, f***ing Vampires that spin and dance, Shamans that that carry weapons in tonnage, hot chicks that went crazy and are locked in animal like armor and kill people. Right no BS there. Now I love MGS, but melodrama and crazy characters intertwined doesn't make a great story, imo. SC is attempting to represent a grounding in reality a little more so it will never come across as sexy as MGS. But for me it works, and gameplay wise I prefer it.
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[QUOTE="RocKtheCasbaH"]

There's your dilmea. MGS should naver have scored 10, more of an 8.5 IMO. and that's being generous. The extra 1.5 was given by reviewers carried away on the hype train.

Slambo86

how can a game score higher due to hype? Reviewers play the game and the majority scored it very high. Hype doesn't make you like a game that isn't good...wtf, kind of a logic is that? MGS4 isn't everyones game..obviously. but that doesn't mean it sucks..different tastes. Too bad for you, the majority love it to death and the scores show this.

This is the exact same logic people tried using on you in your numerous other KZ2>Halo3 threads you make a week, and even you didnt buy it.

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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Slambo86"] how can a game score higher due to hype? Reviewers play the game and the majority scored it very high. Hype doesn't make you like a game that isn't good...wtf, kind of a logic is that? MGS4 isn't everyones game..obviously. but that doesn't mean it sucks..different tastes. Too bad for you, the majority love it to death and the scores show this. Episode_Eve

MSG4 is further proof that graphics and presentation seem to mean more than actual gaming these days. care to explain how I'm wrong?

That's where you're wrong because MGS4 encompassing package is superb. Presentation, story, and gampeplay. The gameplay is the best it's ever been and is not only a fun as hell, but provides dozens of new mechanics/ideas to the franchise. Going by popular opinion from credible sources and the community that is.

GS Review: "Metal Gear Solid 4 is an awe-inspiring synthesis of dramatic storytelling and entertaining gameplay."

They even gave it an 'Outstanding Gameplay" medal.

-- Not one source is good enough though, so how about me too lol? I'm sure if you tried, you can find many quotes similar to the previous. Have you played the game in it's entirety?

No I havnt, but I've played GTA4 all the way, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt GTA4 get the same overblown merits? when ultimatly the city and its missions were the most repetitive of the entire series.
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#80 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"]

[QUOTE="Englandfc1966"]Well it's a known fact MGS4 looks bad and plays bad so Conviction should be better.Englandfc1966

:lol: where did you get that from, MGS4 doesnt look or play bad.

You're obviously a fanboy if you think MGS4 doesn't look bad. It's also boring, I nearly cried at the end because it just dragged on.

I'm sorry you feel that way. What else can I do for you? You seem traumatized from this experience :( :P.
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] MSG4 is further proof that graphics and presentation seem to mean more than actual gaming these days. care to explain how I'm wrong?PC360Wii

That's where you're wrong because MGS4 encompassing package is superb. Presentation, story, and gampeplay. The gameplay is the best it's ever been and is not only a fun as hell, but provides dozens of new mechanics/ideas to the franchise. Going by popular opinion from credible sources and the community that is.

GS Review: "Metal Gear Solid 4 is an awe-inspiring synthesis of dramatic storytelling and entertaining gameplay."

They even gave it an 'Outstanding Gameplay" medal.

-- Not one source is good enough though, so how about me too lol? I'm sure if you tried, you can find many quotes similar to the previous. Have you played the game in it's entirety?

No I havnt, but I've played GTA4 all the way, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt GTA4 get the same overblown merits? when ultimatly the city and its missions were the most repetitive of the entire series.

GTA did get repetitive, true. But MGS4 is far from repetitive. The action is like a roller-coaster and you can play to your own style given the situations and abilities / items at your disposal. So fun and varied :D.
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And once mgs5 somehow releases this year, the new splinter cell will be outcold for another possible 2 years or so :lol:

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[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="Slambo86"]

(convictions)

be a total MGS4 rip off? I can so see Sam going through this aging and emotional stage....the game was obvious halted for the fact that it looked like garbage early on, compared to 4. (once ubi had a chance to play mgs4 ;)

convictions will focuse more greatly in characters...willing to bet Sam will have a battle with a strong and well developed boss.ALA snake with Ocelot/liquid.

can't wait to see the cheesy/love scenes in this game and just the added emotional factors. Don't get me wrong i enjoy the SC games, GAMEPLAY-WISE..but the story for the majority of them were terrible..with the typical CIA BS. Anyhow..should be interesting.

CIA BS? But people who shoot lightning, bees, crawl like bugs, can't be hit by bullets, Vampires, f***ing Vampires that spin and dance, Shamans that that carry weapons in tonnage, hot chicks that went crazy and are locked in animal like armor and kill people. Right no BS there. Now I love MGS, but melodrama and crazy characters intertwined doesn't make a great story, imo. SC is attempting to represent a grounding in reality a little more so it will never come across as sexy as MGS. But for me it works, and gameplay wise I prefer it.

Lol, what you say is mostly true. But I just find SC stories to be boring :(.
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And once mgs5 somehow releases this year, the new splinter cell will be outcold for another possible 2 years or so :lol:

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What has MGS5 (if it comes some day) to do with the new Splinter Cell?
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#85 Generalmojo
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[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

And once mgs5 somehow releases this year, the new splinter cell will be outcold for another possible 2 years or so :lol:

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What has MGS5 (if it comes some day) to do with the new Splinter Cell?

didnt mgs4 delay this splinter cell game?

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#86 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

And once mgs5 somehow releases this year, the new splinter cell will be outcold for another possible 2 years or so :lol:

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What has MGS5 (if it comes some day) to do with the new Splinter Cell?

Solely for compare and contrasting. Then deeper its the fans of the games debating heh. I'm presuming mojo is a MGS fan.
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#87 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

And once mgs5 somehow releases this year, the new splinter cell will be outcold for another possible 2 years or so :lol:

Generalmojo

What has MGS5 (if it comes some day) to do with the new Splinter Cell?

didnt mgs4 delay this splinter cell game?

Lol. Like I said earlier...

I'm really looking forward to what they've changed.

And the changes I believe are due to these 2 things:

1.) Too similar to AC

2.) Ubi saw/played MGS4 and went back to the drawing board :P.

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#88 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

And once mgs5 somehow releases this year, the new splinter cell will be outcold for another possible 2 years or so :lol:

Generalmojo

What has MGS5 (if it comes some day) to do with the new Splinter Cell?

didnt mgs4 delay this splinter cell game?

Why would you think that?
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#89 delta3074
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Splinter Cell always had Fisher as older character, in ChaosTheory he was already over 50ty, so if anythin it's MGS4 that ripped Splinter Cell.
Anyway I doubt they will try copying MGS4, SplinterCell always was down to Earth and logical. MGS always was silly B-movie like stuff. MGS4 especially was totall mess of G.I.Joe mixed with soap opera. I seriously doubt Ubisoft will take this route with new Splinter Cell

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u have no idea what your on about. how the hell did mgs4 rip off SC? MGS has been around since 1985.

no it hasn't metalgear (MG) has been around since 1985,metalgear SOLID did not appear till 1997(MGS) and they are both ripoffs of castle wolfenstien (1981) PROOF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/stealth_game
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#90 Synthetic_NinJI
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Didn't like MGS4 as I found the game extremely easy (fox on Big Boss mode) and the story feeling like a low-tier Marvel comics clone. I can relate more with Splinter Cell because of it's constant ties to realism.
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#91 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]


Splinter Cell always had Fisher as older character, in ChaosTheory he was already over 50ty, so if anythin it's MGS4 that ripped Splinter Cell.
Anyway I doubt they will try copying MGS4, SplinterCell always was down to Earth and logical. MGS always was silly B-movie like stuff. MGS4 especially was totall mess of G.I.Joe mixed with soap opera. I seriously doubt Ubisoft will take this route with new Splinter Cell

Slambo86

u have no idea what your on about. how the hell did mgs4 rip off SC? MGS has been around since 1985.

Previous MGS games didnt have Snake as an old character and that's the reason you accused SC:C of ripping MGS4 off, I just showed how wrong you were. If any game ripped the "old character" from the other it was MGS4 ripping from SplinterCell, not the other way around.

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#92 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] What has MGS5 (if it comes some day) to do with the new Splinter Cell?Episode_Eve

didnt mgs4 delay this splinter cell game?

Lol. Like I said earlier... I'm really looking forward to what they've changed. And the changes I believe are due to these 2 things: 1.) Too similar to AC 2.) Ubi saw/played MGS4 and went back to the drawing board .

They have said the reason for the changes is AC. Why would they change because of MGS4? The games are not even the samething since SC is a hardcore stealth game and MGS is a action game that allows stealth.
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#93 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

And once mgs5 somehow releases this year, the new splinter cell will be outcold for another possible 2 years or so :lol:

Generalmojo

What has MGS5 (if it comes some day) to do with the new Splinter Cell?

didnt mgs4 delay this splinter cell game?

Eh... no. SCC was delayed for a bunch of reasons. A negative response to the first teaser being one of them. Ubi making PoP their big game for the year being another.
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#94 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"] didnt mgs4 delay this splinter cell game?

rybe1025

Lol. Like I said earlier... I'm really looking forward to what they've changed. And the changes I believe are due to these 2 things: 1.) Too similar to AC 2.) Ubi saw/played MGS4 and went back to the drawing board .

They have said the reason for the changes is AC. Why would they change because of MGS4? The games are not even the samething since SC is a hardcore stealth game and MGS is a action game that allows stealth.

MGS is not an action game that "allows" stealth. You can play anyway you want so it's a balance between the two.

When I copied and pasted my previous post...the forum code didn't past the " :P " smiley. I've since edited back in.

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#95 Slambo86
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LOL, MGS4 can be beaten without being seen ONCE! You can stealth that **** or rambo it....up to you. Unlike Splinter cell...which limits you. Stupid camera's..kill the experience, IMO. The alert and then GAMEOVER..hate it.
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#96 TREAL_Since
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Actually I think the new Splinter Cell will be my first Ubisoft game that I care about this gen :).
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] Lol. Like I said earlier... I'm really looking forward to what they've changed. And the changes I believe are due to these 2 things: 1.) Too similar to AC 2.) Ubi saw/played MGS4 and went back to the drawing board .Episode_Eve

They have said the reason for the changes is AC. Why would they change because of MGS4? The games are not even the samething since SC is a hardcore stealth game and MGS is a action game that allows stealth.

MGS is not an action game that "allows" stealth. You can play anyway you want so it's a balance between the two.

When I copied and pasted my previous post...the forum code didn't past the " :P " smiley. I've since edited back in.

That is what I ment by saying it allows stealth since you can do action or stealth. In SC though there is no choice. You try and shoot your way through the game and it will just not happen.
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LOL, MGS4 can be beaten without being seen ONCE! You can stealth that **** or rambo it....up to you. Unlike Splinter cell...which limits you. Stupid camera's..kill the experience, IMO. The alert and then GAMEOVER..hate it. Slambo86

That's exactly what makes SC a pure stealth game, contrary to MGS.

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#99 Slambo86
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[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] What has MGS5 (if it comes some day) to do with the new Splinter Cell?IronBass

didnt mgs4 delay this splinter cell game?

Eh... no. SCC was delayed for a bunch of reasons. A negative response to the first teaser being one of them. Ubi making PoP their big game for the year being another.

you believe that ****? The game was delayed due to MGS4 making it look bad. Ubi know this after playing it. I could picture there faces just melt "HOLY ****, we are dead, David, cancel the crap we have in dev and restart" LMFAO!

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#100 TREAL_Since
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LOL, MGS4 can be beaten without being seen ONCE! You can stealth that **** or rambo it....up to you. Unlike Splinter cell...which limits you. Stupid camera's..kill the experience, IMO. The alert and then GAMEOVER..hate it. Slambo86
SC is more realistic. But MGS offers more as a video game (and isn't uber realistic since it's basically sci-fi). More gameplay variety, better story/presentation, and characters.